The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 As for the alternative sponsor……think I’m right in saying that kids’ shirts aren’t allowed to have gambling ads on them (last season was utilita or something) so they’ll likely have the alternative too. Should’ve got Draper Tools onboard for some proper retro. Gambling sponsors should be outlawed imo just like ciggies were decades ago. But that’s another whinge altogether. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 2 hours ago, skintsaint said: As someone said earlier it needed the Chevrons all the way down the sleeve. Looks a bit cheap without them somehow. wondering how it will look with long sleeves without them. Weird probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chez said: wondering how it will look with long sleeves without them. Weird probably. Do any players wear long sleeves these days?! They must be a rarity, they seem to go with short sleeves for the main shirt and a similarly coloured long-sleeved undershirt. Also no one seems to tuck themselves in these days……🙄 Edited 19 June, 2023 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Kraken said: As for the alternative sponsor……think I’m right in saying that kids’ shirts aren’t allowed to have gambling ads on them (last season was utilita or something) so they’ll likely have the alternative too. Should’ve got Draper Tools onboard for some proper retro. Gambling sponsors should be outlawed imo just like ciggies were decades ago. But that’s another whinge altogether. Junior sizes can be bought with either Utilita or Starling, adult with Sportsnet or Starling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, The Kraken said: We’re basically having a second year in a row of “experimental” which seems to be your main problem. Prior to that in recent seasons we’ve alternated year by year. Seems like you’d have been happy with this kit if it was next year and there was a season of stripes in between? For me it doesn’t matter, the 80s we’re almost exclusively non stripes and as long as the kit is red and white, has a nod to our history (which stripes, sash, xerox, halves, quarters etc all do), and it’s not utterly shit, then it’s alright with me. Bayern Munich are another huge side who have changed their home kit loads: plain red, red and blue stripes, red and white stripes amongst them. So Barca aren’t an exception, I’m sure there’s plenty who mix it up. Yes, exactly I would rather have alternate years - traditional vs experimental. As you point out though this isn’t the first time we’ve had back-to-back alternative kits. I am not actually against a bit of innovation as long as (a) the design is great and (b) they stick to the red/white/black colour palette. In fact the ‘Keegan kit’ and the L1 sash kit are two of my all-time favourites, but I definitely would like a more traditional r&w stripes design as the predominant approach. TBH I was actually more aggrieved at the Cortese era dissection - the whole ‘all red’ kit thing as it had no connection with Saints’ tradition. At least the last two have stuck to our recognised colour palette. The other thing with Hummel that I don’t like - as pointed out by someone else on here - is the the fit is terrible (on players I mean). They just look baggy and amateurish. One day maybe I’ll get my dream of someone delivering a smart, classic yet contemporary take on our kits of the 60s/70s - I think Atletico Madrid have done this before and it looks great. For me, that would be true innovation! Edited 19 June, 2023 by SW11_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoonman Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Love it. As a nipper I bought the Danish national shirt, then the next year Saints released practically the same shirt which I obviously got too (both still fit me😇). Haven’t bought a shirt in years, well tempted with this one.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Was a shit kit in the 80s and is a shit kit now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 3 minutes ago, SW11_Saint said: TBH I was actually more aggrieved at the Cortese era dissection - the whole ‘all red’ kit thing as it had no connection with Saints’ tradition. At least the last two have stuck to our recognised colour palette. The other thing with Hummel that I don’t like - as pointed out by someone else on here - is the the fit is terrible (on players I mean). They just look baggy and amateurish. 100% agree with the first para. The second, kind of agree though the shots released so far aren’t overly clear. But yes, they do seem a bit baggier than usual. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 I loved the original 80s version .. this is still nice and I might still buy anyway but there is something a little bit not quite hitting the spot .. I think it may be that the sleeves don’t have the Umbro arrows stunning all the way down .. doesn’t the new Denmark still do that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 3 hours ago, niceandfriendly said: No they have men’s version of Sterling Bank kit too I'm going to buy the Sportsbetio one for when I go to men's games and the Starling Bank one for when I go to watch the ladies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 2 hours ago, ButtikonSaint said: A bit too busy / pyjama looking for my liking, however I get the nod to the past... Mind you, would have preferred if they'd taken inspiration from our 89/90 kit This is the greatest kit we ever had (white socks though) Just perfect. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, CB Fry said: This is the greatest kit we ever had (white socks though) Just perfect. Definitely the best kit ever. I love the black socks though, while not the “traditional” saints thing it just absolutely worked here. Love love love that kit (and the Liverpool 4-1 that it oversaw). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: 100% agree with the first para. The second, kind of agree though the shots released so far aren’t overly clear. But yes, they do seem a bit baggier than usual. And I meant to type divergence - not sure how it ended up as dissection! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 3 hours ago, bpsaint said: One thing that doesn’t help with the shirt is that the one used in the revealed are never tailored to the player and they look baggy and a bit crap, especially on someone as slight as Prowsey. Looks better on the store mannequins. The store mannequins are fucking massive though. They are not regular human size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said: Flock 😀 Flock indeed! Couple of washes before it turned beige, couple more and it started peeling off! For flock's sake! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancouver Saint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Horrible horrible horrible. Guaranteed a second successive relegation to league one with a kit like that. Since when was red and pink part of our brand design language? 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vancouver Saint said: Horrible horrible horrible. Guaranteed a second successive relegation to league one with a kit like that. Since when was red and pink part of our brand design language? 1987-1989. Edited 19 June, 2023 by The Kraken 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Kraken said: 1987-1989. Great pic. Radio Merrington & The Rofe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Who's that on the front row sat next to Graham Baker? (not Mark Wright) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Who's that on the front row sat next to Graham Baker? (not Mark Wright) There’s a list of all the names in there 🤣 (It’s Graham’s brother Steve). MLG edit. Yes, I know they’re not related…… Edited 19 June, 2023 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Mugs getting twisted over a kit. What next? People getting pissed off at a marching band playing OWTS? Traditional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juneau Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: 1987-1989. Although they’ve released that black and yellow ‘loud’ one, I do hope there’s a simple green GK top to wear along side this new home shirt to complete the classic look… Would be missing a trick otherwise surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 52 minutes ago, The Kraken said: There’s a list of all the names in there 🤣 (It’s Graham’s brother Steve). MLG edit. Yes, I know they’re not related…… 🤣 Honestly spent too long zooming into the picture I completely missed the names at the bottom. Idiot 🤡 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 I do like the way Hummel add some bespoke touches to the kits which hark back to our history like the little roses hidden in the pinstripes, and the stained glass window of St Marys church in the goalie kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 14 minutes ago, bpsaint said: I do like the way Hummel add some bespoke touches to the kits which hark back to our history like ... the stained glass window of St Marys church in the goalie kit. Great. Like we needed something else on Bazunu that a ball could smash through. 🙂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Already available on DH gate. They don’t fuck about do they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 19 June, 2023 Share Posted 19 June, 2023 Glenn Cockerills hair never fails to captivate me. Quite remarkable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 We need someone to do a thorough investigation to see if this kit is ditching any semblance of tradition...anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Juneau said: Although they’ve released that black and yellow ‘loud’ one, I do hope there’s a simple green GK top to wear along side this new home shirt to complete the classic look… Would be missing a trick otherwise surely I am surprised no one has mention the flaming blue away kit. The only away shirt I have ever purchased (manly because of the zenith data system cup final day out) Edited 20 June, 2023 by Yorkshire Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 8 hours ago, CB Fry said: 🤣 Honestly spent too long zooming into the picture I completely missed the names at the bottom. Idiot 🤡 Ha ha... I learnt something too. Never realised Phillip Parkinson aka Phil Parkinson started with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom & Gerry Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 Blimey things must be bad. No manager, staff leaving, players leaving and the only kit we've got left to wear is is some old shirts from the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Vancouver Saint said: Horrible horrible horrible. Guaranteed a second successive relegation to league one with a kit like that. Since when was red and pink part of our brand design language? Is people's eye focus really such an issue that these obvious stripes are blurring for them? Edited 20 June, 2023 by Nolan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) The recent more modern takes on the past kits make me wonder. Why has no-one had a go at the classic mid 70's kit? https://cdn.footballkitarchive.com/2023/01/14/6gFNE0sucdudiRk.jpg Edited 20 June, 2023 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 3 minutes ago, Colinjb said: The recent more modern takes on the past kits make me wonder. Why has no-one had a go at the classic mid 70's kit? https://cdn.footballkitarchive.com/2023/01/14/6gFNE0sucdudiRk.jpg I hate that kit so much i'd protest against it by buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 1 hour ago, Yorkshire Saint said: I am surprised no one has mention the flaming blue away kit. The only away shirt I have ever purchased (manly because of the zenith dats system cup final day out) This shirt was presented to me in the club shop by Jimmy Case on release day! I filled in a feedback form a few weeks earlier regarding my shopping experience in the shop. A week or two later I was invited to the shop on release day. I was star struck when Jimmy turned up in the shop (my favourite player at the time). My mates were all outside queuing and jealous as hell haha. I recall Jimmy said he wasn't sure about the blue flame kit as it might contrast with the crowd too much, or words to that effect. He was very genuine and could see I was nervous to meet him. A memorable day for sure and why I too hold great affection for that particular kit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nimbus Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yorkshire Saint said: I am surprised no one has mention the flaming blue away kit. The only away shirt I have ever purchased (manly because of the zenith dats system cup final day out) I've tried to find the yellow version of that shirt but had zero joy. Everywhere that sells it is out of stock. Edited 20 June, 2023 by Mr Nimbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, jasonb said: This shirt was presented to me in the club shop by Jimmy Case on release day! I filled in a feedback form a few weeks earlier regarding my shopping experience in the shop. A week or two later I was invited to the shop on release day. I was star struck when Jimmy turned up in the shop (my favourite player at the time). My mates were all outside queuing and jealous as hell haha. I recall Jimmy said he wasn't sure about the blue flame kit as it might contrast with the crowd too much, or words to that effect. He was very genuine and could see I was nervous to meet him. A memorable day for sure and why I too hold great affection for that particular kit. Great story, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mr Nimbus said: I've tried to find the yellow version of that shirt but had zero joy. Everywhere that sells it is out of stock. Id forgotten about that... didnt we only wear it once ? Might of been when Paul Davis smacked Glenn at Highbury and broke his jaw. 9 game ban was never enough !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 14 minutes ago, Turkish said: I hate that kit so much i'd protest against it by buying it. Good lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) On 19/06/2023 at 08:15, david in sweden said: No... .not immediate promotion, but the idea that our " relatively-new " ownership, and our soon-to-be new manager (and his staff) might want to look back into Saints' long history and learn / remember / that many fans.... and old fogey's like me (first game January 1959 ) have long memories and recall that .....we used to play in red and white striped shirts .... (albeit with / without adverts) . I'm sort of OK with a " change kit" in different patterns.. (after all we won the FA Cup in blue and gold..) but it would be a nice gesture to get a supplier who has some feeling for a little sentiment, and turn the clock back and pay homage to the club's history and give us a decent version of the " red and white ", that many past generations still lovingly remember. One can only hope that those " now-departed director's " didn't approve some form of multi-coloured harlequin patterned kit for next season before they finally left office . To my mind, our tradition doesn't lay in those few trophies we have collected over several decades, or the occasional promotion, but in the hearts of the fans - young and old - who have shown some appreciation for our heritage. So......to whoever the new " responsible person " at Sports Republic is .. please give us back " our Red and White ". Whilst I agree wholeheartedly, unfortunately I think it's all about the money. The stripes just don't go well with a sponsors logo. Edited 20 June, 2023 by RedWillie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 2 hours ago, Yorkshire Saint said: I am surprised no one has mention the flaming blue away kit. The only away shirt I have ever purchased (manly because of the zenith dats system cup final day out) My favourite away kit ever (even allowing for the similarities to our near neighbours) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 Sentimental rubbish. Why does it matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 Far to busy for me, look at that too long and it’s a migraine coming on 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 If only there was a kit thread to post this on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 'Give us back our red and white' says the man after the club release a red and white kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Brightside Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 58 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said: Id forgotten about that... didnt we only wear it once ? Might of been when Paul Davis smacked Glenn at Highbury and broke his jaw. 9 game ban was never enough !! The Highbury assault was in September 88 when we were wearing Hummel. The Admiral flame yellow was worn rarely. It made its debut at Sheffield Wednesday early in the 91-92 season. And I recall us wearing it when winning at Crystal Palace in the 92-93 season. Strangely, it was used with white shorts rather then the blue shorts it was intended to be used with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr Nimbus said: I've tried to find the yellow version of that shirt but had zero joy. Everywhere that sells it is out of stock. 1 hour ago, Yorkshire Saint said: Id forgotten about that... didnt we only wear it once ? Might of been when Paul Davis smacked Glenn at Highbury and broke his jaw. 9 game ban was never enough !! We definitely wore it away to Palace in September 1992, when Iain Dowie scored a brace (after being on one of his barren spells) and he ripped the shirt around the neck in celebration, in true WWF/Hulk stylee in front of the Saints fans! I had a poster of it on my wall as a kid 😆 https://www.11v11.com/matches/crystal-palace-v-southampton-26-september-1992-20888/ Video (not very HD!) - Edited 20 June, 2023 by St Louis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 This is an interesting visual of all of our shirts (Home, Away & Third) since 1976 - https://footballshirthistory.weebly.com/s---t/category/southampton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 20 June, 2023 Share Posted 20 June, 2023 I purchased the blue and yellow flame shirts when Saints re-issued them a few years back. Not quite as good as the Admiral originals but still awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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