Master Bates Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 I think we need to start early this year so the club have time to realise that most of us want red and white stripes. I'm assuming we'll go back to yellow away, got to be nailed on that one. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) This has surely been the worst ever season for kits, so anything will be an improvement. Edited 13 January, 2023 by Sunglasses Ron 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Master Bates said: I think we need to start early this year so the club have time to realise that most of us want red and white stripes. I'm assuming we'll go back to yellow away, got to be nailed on that one. Do we?! 😉 Im not a massive fan of our current home kit but I very much like a variation from stripes quite often. People go on about ‘tradition’ but I just point to Barcelona. You can’t get much bigger a club side than them yet they’re not remembered for only wearing stripes, they’ve had a massive amount of variation on blue and red/maroon in the past 20-30 years. My favourite 3 Saints kits have been the original Rank Xerox kit, the Denmark Hummel, and the Hummel stripes. Quite enjoy a deviation from stripes more than often. Our away kits this year are bloody terrible though imo. Happy for yellow and blue there. Edited 9 January, 2023 by The Kraken 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. That would absolutely be my favourite ever I reckon, and a nod to very early kit history. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 9 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Do we?! 😉 Tbf I did originally put 'we all want...' then thought I'd better change that 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 9 January, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Kraken said: the Denmark Hummel, Did someone not mention last year that this was supposed to be one of our kits during the Hummel contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Tbf I did originally put 'we all want...' then thought I'd better change that 🤣 I'll just save you the edits... 19 minutes ago, Master Bates said: I think we need to start early this year so the club have time to realise that I want red and white stripes. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 1 minute ago, Master Bates said: Did someone not mention last year that this was supposed to be one of our kits during the Hummel contract? Yeah, I think the Hummel designers released a video shortly after taking on our contract where they talked about their options with Saints, and made reference to the previous kit(s) they had under us including that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said: This has surely been the worst ever season for kits, so anything will be an improvement surely. I agree 100% with this. The first kit is like a 1 star knock off training kit, and the wave effort is fucking awful, the most unsightly mess I can ever remember us turning out in. Green one sort of ok. And there was me thinking designs couldn't get worse after Under Armour were binned off. Edited 9 January, 2023 by stknowle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 January, 2023 Author Share Posted 9 January, 2023 (edited) I think the club should let the fans decide like they did once in the past with The Echo. Have a competition to design next seasons kit, pick the best 3/5 and then let the fans vote on their favourite. Edited 9 January, 2023 by Master Bates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 It's not a true Saintsweb kit thread until @hypochondriac starts disguising ITK information as innocent looking questions... Or when @Harold K Steptoe actually tells us what the kit is going to be.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 6 minutes ago, stknowle said: I agree 100% with this. The first kit is like a 1 star knock off training kit, and the wave effort is fucking awful, the most unsightly mess I can ever remember us turning out in. Green one sort of ok. And there was me thinking designs couldn't get worse after Under Armour were binned off. The wave one is an absolute abomination. I didn’t like it when it was announced but I’ve grown to hate it more exponentially every time we’ve worn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 After a mixture of initially the sash in 1885, then right and white quarters and next red and white halves we changed to stripes to go with the blue shorts and socks in 1896 and that was to become the traditional kit until the 50s. The kit doesn't overly bother me, not crazy on stripes but every other season seems OK to me but maybe time for a blast from the past. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Find it funny how some of the mock-ups that people put on here are invariably better than what we always seem to end up with. I hate yellow and blue so don't mind the away kits this year as a one off. Not been that keen on any of main shirts since the sash, but at the end of the day, I never buy them anyway. Have got a Xerox retro shirt which does the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 27 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. 25 minutes ago, The Kraken said: That would absolutely be my favourite ever I reckon, and a nod to very early kit history. That was also only ever worn with blue shorts and socks originally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 30 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. Another vote for non stripes here, it’s nice to have something different and unique rather just looking like Sunderland, Stoke, Sheff United, Brentford etc which is why the sash was so great. That’s a nice one you’ve posted there. Not that I’m over bothered not bought a football kit of years for myself just get kids one now every season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 12 minutes ago, Master Bates said: I think the club should let the fans decide like they did once in the past with The Echo. Have a competition to design next seasons kit, pick the best 3/5 and then let the fans vote on their favourite. Which failed as the obsessed Pompey contingent all spotted it and voted for the worst one, some Monaco inspired abomination iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Its been one of the worst selling home kits for a longtime and there has been awful supply line issues which hopefully have now been sorted. I was expecting good things from Hummel and they need to redeem themselves to clearly get more sales. I think the half red and white shirts is a good shout and would sell well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 13 minutes ago, alehouseboys said: That was also only ever worn with blue shorts and socks originally Was saying the other day how with all the sh*te designs they've used in recent years, why they havent used the "blackburn" red and white. I want plain stripes but both this and the Denmark kit are beautiful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Whatever it is, I just want it to be brave 🤣 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said: Whatever it is, I just want it to be brave 🤣 Blue......................brave enough? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Hopefully they will use a designer to design the kits this time. Annual request for navy shorts, in case Hummel are looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 26 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Which failed as the obsessed Pompey contingent all spotted it and voted for the worst one, some Monaco inspired abomination iirc. That Monaco kit came 2nd thankfully, the winner was one of our best ever kits I’d say. No surprise considering the fans chose it!! Im a fan of mixing it up too, although this years effort is an abomination. A bit more red like the 99-01 shirt might have saved it a little. If we do return to stripes I just hope we finally go back to a striped back too, as the plain backs look shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 Non stripe voter here too. oh and it’s got to be bold and brave over anything else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 56 minutes ago, trousers said: It's not a true Saintsweb kit thread until @hypochondriac starts disguising ITK information as innocent looking questions... Or when @Harold K Steptoe actually tells us what the kit is going to be.... I'll see if I can find anything out. The two people who told me before have left the club though now so no promises! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 I also like the non-stripe variations. Xerox, the sash, the Denmark and also the 70s admiral - not traditional stripes on that one either. That said, the all/mostly red versions (Liverpool copy and mid 80s one … I think @86) are definite no’s for me. Nothing wrong with stripes when done nicely, but there’s been some abominations and it doesn’t set us apart from half a dozen or so other sides. As for away kits, I feel it’s a long time since we tried a navy/sky combination. Loved it in the 80s (Danny Wallace at Anfield?) but the pony effort was horrible. Could go either way 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 My two favourites from recent years (also coincided with our best league finishes) 😉 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 9 January, 2023 Share Posted 9 January, 2023 3 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said: This has surely been the worst ever season for kits, so anything will be an improvement surely. I really like the blue kit but it looks shite with white shorts and socks. The other two are poor though. Home kit my least favourite in my lifetime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickles Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 May be in the minority but I love the 98/99 home shirt I bought a couple years ago and love all the Pony ones in general tbh.Long before this American became a fan mind lol, but still looking at our kit history, I like the look of these the most. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 9 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. Must thank @Master Bates for giving us the opportunity to say we don't want stripes. Half and half as above, or quarts. Stripes work well on a deck chair, not a football kit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 7 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said: I really like the blue kit but it looks shite with white shorts and socks. The other two are poor though. Home kit my least favourite in my lifetime. Yup, it’s the white shorts and socks that make the overall look god awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 I suspect that the designs have already been selected. That is unless we have a break with Hummel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophenburg Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 Another non-stripe enthusiast here, they're so ubiquitous and boring, could literally badge it has half the clubs in English football and no-one could tell the difference 12 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: My two favourites from recent years (also coincided with our best league finishes) 😉 Case in point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Master Bates said: I think we need to start early this year so the club have time to realise that most of us want red and white stripes. I'm assuming we'll go back to yellow away, got to be nailed on that one. You might as well change that thread title to 24/25 season. Designs for next season should have been agreed months ago and are probably already in production. And add me into the "don't like stripes". I'd vote for a Feyenoord style half and half shirt. Edited 10 January, 2023 by Wurzel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Gifford Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 The wave effect away shirt is that bad, it makes it quite good I think. It will be one of those shirts that will be forever remembered (and probably worth a few quid by collectors one day). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 2 hours ago, Wurzel said: You might as well change that thread title to 24/25 season. Designs for next season should have been agreed months ago and are probably already in production. This... although this is Saints we're talking about here.... given our recent track record of kit production / delivery issues.... it may still be on some middle-manager's to-do list.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 Most want stripes? I think there are a fair few fans who aren't deck chair strip fetishists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 41 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: Most want stripes? I think there are a fair few fans who aren't deck chair strip fetishists. I personally love a good strip on some beach furniture, especially if performed by Croatian nuns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 16 hours ago, Chewy said: As for away kits, I feel it’s a long time since we tried a navy/sky combination. Loved it in the 80s (Danny Wallace at Anfield?) but the pony effort was horrible. Could go either way 😂 Wasn't the 2004/5 third kit a navy/sky combination? Quite liked that. Would be happy to get another, although the current away is basically that combination. The Pony one was more turquoise, wasn't it? Jesus, sorry, I'm `arguing' about bloody colour tones now. Personally, I really like the white away shirts. The Sash one in 20/21 (third kit) and the 19/20 third kit were pretty nice. I liked the 2012/13 all white with red pinstripe Umbro kit too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Most might, but I'm more a fan of the non stripey ones. Since Hummel did a few of those before, it would seem like a good time for a few more non stripes. This one was nice from recent mock ups, for example. Imagine being involved in our kits for next year (both at hummel and at saints), seeing this on a message board, and then instead turfing out the usual absolute garbage. Edited 10 January, 2023 by Saint86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chez said: Wasn't the 2004/5 third kit a navy/sky combination? Quite liked that. Would be happy to get another, although the current away is basically that combination. The Pony one was more turquoise, wasn't it? Jesus, sorry, I'm `arguing' about bloody colour tones now. Personally, I really like the white away shirts. The Sash one in 20/21 (third kit) and the 19/20 third kit were pretty nice. I liked the 2012/13 all white with red pinstripe Umbro kit too. That kit was very nice but we barely saw it all season, the club insisted it would only be worn when none of the shirt, shorts and socks clashed with the other side, and Saints wouldn’t change shorts/socks colour to suit. As it was, due to it almost neve being used, we made it our FA Cup home shirt. Then went out at the firs time of trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Master Bates said: I think the club should let the fans decide like they did once in the past with The Echo. Have a competition to design next seasons kit, pick the best 3/5 and then let the fans vote on their favourite. I'd give season ticket holders a vote personally (and i say this even though i am no longer one myself - colour metaphor puel). ST holders are match going fans and the ones most likely to buy the kits. Also stops skates or casuals (that never attend / buy club merchandise) from voting. Edited 10 January, 2023 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint86 said: I'd give season ticket holders a vote personally (and i say this even though i am no longer one myself - colour metaphor puel). ST holders are match going fans and the ones most likely to buy the kits. Also stops skates or casuals (that never attend / buy club merchandise) from voting. I get the feeling the, if we did that, we’d get stripes more often than not. It seems to me to be a vocal minority on here that prefer a variance from stripes, when there’s actual polls been done on here stripes do seem to be quite popular. Personally, I’d like to see a variation of all we’ve had before (and more) on a sort of informal rota. Stripes one year, halves the next, rank xerox, sash, add quarters in the mix and maybe even a solid red shirt that is not as shit as the Cortese kits and the dreadful centenary shirt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 The Argentina World Cup kit was simple and effective, red and white version of that would be great And face facts, the kit is the sole reason they won the WC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 Not overly concerned about the kit…more concerned if it will have a Premier League sleeve badge or a EFL Championship one. although a half and half or even quarters in red and white would be groovy. 🤷🏻♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 I think we should do something with stripes every other year, and do something that is a nod to the past in the other year. What I don't like is the oddity that we seem to have every other year at the moment. This seasons isn't particularly nice, and the red with white sash never quite looked right to me from a couple of years ago. Away should be yellow and blue when we have stripes, and something different in the alternate years. If it were up to me next year would be Red and White stripes (red sleeves) black shorts and white socks. Yellow and blue away, maybe stripes, All black third with a red trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Louis Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, trousers said: It's not a true Saintsweb kit thread until @hypochondriac starts disguising ITK information as innocent looking questions... Or when @Harold K Steptoe actually tells us what the kit is going to be.... I usually get a glimpse of the new kits in late May / early June (6 weeks or so before the club announce them), so if I can I'll share some snippets, but not always easy for obvious reasons. Hopefully wont be as disappointed as the first sighting of the Red with White Sash for 20/21. I didnt think we would see worse... until this seasons kits came along 👇 Edited 10 January, 2023 by St Louis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 10 January, 2023 Share Posted 10 January, 2023 22 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said: This has surely been the worst ever season for kits, so anything will be an improvement surely. I thought this year's home was okay. Then someone put a mock up of it with side panels. That improved it so much, the original became even more meh. The Aquaman away kit seemed okay in principle, but not in the flesh. The third kit makes it easy to ignore third kits on principle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channons Windmill Posted 13 January, 2023 Share Posted 13 January, 2023 I'm fully in the stripes camp - my favourite will always be the v-necked 75-76 kit, with black shorts and plain white socks... guess that's because I started watching the Saints in that kit? I'm surprised the 1976-79(?) thick and thin stripes haven't returned at some point; that was the first replica top I had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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