Mislav Orsic

[Midfield_General]

Probably deserves his own thread now he's reportedly having a medical?

 

[SaintZamboni]

I’m hoping that the signing of Orsic means that we’ll stick with 433 so that he can play one side of Adams (or a new striker) with Edozie on the other. 

[Saint_Jonny]

He must be happy playing Championship football next season if he is willing to join us. Can't believe any player would be willing to join after the absolute shit show we've put out against Brighton and Forest (yeah I know, money talks..)

[OttawaSaint]

Medical? Needs his head checking if he wants to come to Saints.

Edited 5 January, 2023 by OttawaSaint

[Saint Matty 76]

Posted this yesterday but probably makes more sense to put it in here in case people are jumping on to find out about him.

"He scored against Chelsea and AC Milan in the CL this year. He scored against West Ham and twice against Sevilla the year before, and a hattrick against Spurs the year before that.

His Champions League record is 12 games, 6 goals and 1 assist.

His Europa League record is 30 games, 13 goals and 6 assists.

His Croatian League record is 132 games, 57 goals and 29 assists.

Adding a goal and two assists in limited minutes at the World Cup this year. Even if you (somewhat fairly) want to disregard his club record, the numbers above are still very impressive.

There's obviously red flags like you say when a player has just turned 30 and hasn't gone a level above Croatia in his career, but there's enough decent signs with his European record for him to be worth a punt in my eyes."

[niceandfriendly]

His goal against Chelsea

Hat trick against Spurs

Goal against Milan

Cracking strike against West Ham

 

[DinamoFan]

Good evening folks,

As a diehard Dinamo Zagreb fan since the 1970's, I thought I would sign up to give you guys some perspective on your latest signing.

For mine, he is arguably Dinamo's best-ever attacking footballer in European competitions. You have got your hands on an absolute gem of a footballer at an almost bargain-basement price.

And it's not just the eye-popping goal scoring exploits against top-calibre opposition (as 'niceandfriendly's' video links above will attest to, he doesn't do tap-ins a la Lineker) - it's the gut-busting runs in the 90th minute - in both directions - as Mislav is the anti-Ronaldo who will run just as hard towards his own goal to chase down and stop the opposing teams' right-back from creating a goal-scoring opportunity as he is in seeking that last-gasp winner when most of the other guys on the field are going at walking pace.

His unselfish, team-first attitude is infectious. The way he chases, pressures and harries centre-halves trying to play the ball out calmly is almost unnatural in what is a low-intensity, third-rate Croatian league. Suffice to say that he will continue in that fashion playing in the premier league.

There is zero ego with this guy. I think it is not a stretch to say that he is possibly the ultimate team player. And when you are in a relegation scrap - this is exactly the type of guy you need!

From a technical standpoint, he functions best as an outside left in a 4-3-3, but he will adapt to almost any system. It is however important to remember that he is a right-footed player, so don't expect a left-sided Beckham to regularly beat his man and get a conventional cross into the box. That said, he will always try to cut in onto his right foot and look for opportunities to assist his striker/s and goal-scoring mids - unless of course his first instinct tells him to launch one of his ballistic missiles into the far top corner. He is an intelligent footballer who rarely wastes an opportunity in the final third of the pitch to threaten the opponent's goal.

The question/s now is/are - will he fit into your current system and will the manager know how to get the best out of him? And, most importantly - can he help you avoid relegation? Unfortunately, only time will tell. I suspect you will need to sign another 1 or 2 players of similar quality in your weakest positions at a minimum. Even peak Messi would struggle to get your lot out of the bottom 3 on his own. That said, I am certain that this lad will make a positive difference.

I normally couldn't give a flying rat's clacker on how an ex-player performs once he has transferred from my club. This is a massive loss for us and it hurts.

But this guy is a special player - character wise first and foremost. And he has given us over 4 years of phenomenal service. He almost single-handedly took us to a UEFA Cup quarter final, where we were only narrowly beaten by the eventual winners Villareal. And yes - he scored against them too! So only a right royal cunt passing themselves off as a Dinamo fan would wish him anything lest than the very best.

And it is for that very reason that I - along with a substantial number of Dinamo Zagreb fans - will be keeping a close eye on Southampton and hoping that Mislav can help you avoid relegation. One thing is for certain - he will get it done or die trying!

Good luck Saints!

 

 

 

[Mattster]

Welcome Orsic, and sorry.

[hypochondriac]

Thanks very much. Great post. 

[Saint Garrett]

So will we see the end of this shite 5 at the back then? 

For me, we have to go back to a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, or however you want to view it.

Orsic isn't a striker, he probably would play left of a front 3.  I wonder if he'll come in to play LWB like Edozie came on to play last night.

I'm positive about this bloke, but I fear he's just going to be watching the ball go over his head and struggle to get involved.  I hope he's on a sensible contract, as we know we're going to be playing championship football next season.

Edited 5 January, 2023 by Saint Garrett

[John Boy Saint]

Hey! At least we will get to see him on the pitch sooner rather than later - because as "Jonesy has no idea" we don't need to have any of this getting him "conditioned into the Southampton way" cobblers RH use to spin out with a new signing, only to trot him out for his debut in the last 10 minutes 6 weeks later.

   

[derry]

23 minutes ago, DinamoFan said:

Good evening folks,

As a diehard Dinamo Zagreb fan since the 1970's, I thought I would sign up to give you guys some perspective on your latest signing.

For mine, he is arguably Dinamo's best-ever attacking footballer in European competitions. You have got your hands on an absolute gem of a footballer at an almost bargain-basement price.

And it's not just the eye-popping goal scoring exploits against top-calibre opposition (as 'niceandfriendly's' video links above will attest to, he doesn't do tap-ins a la Lineker) - it's the gut-busting runs in the 90th minute - in both directions - as Mislav is the anti-Ronaldo who will run just as hard towards his own goal to chase down and stop the opposing teams' right-back from creating a goal-scoring opportunity as he is in seeking that last-gasp winner when most of the other guys on the field are going at walking pace.

His unselfish, team-first attitude is infectious. The way he chases, pressures and harries centre-halves trying to play the ball out calmly is almost unnatural in what is a low-intensity, third-rate Croatian league. Suffice to say that he will continue in that fashion playing in the premier league.

There is zero ego with this guy. I think it is not a stretch to say that he is possibly the ultimate team player. And when you are in a relegation scrap - this is exactly the type of guy you need!

From a technical standpoint, he functions best as an outside left in a 4-3-3, but he will adapt to almost any system. It is however important to remember that he is a right-footed player, so don't expect a left-sided Beckham to regularly beat his man and get a conventional cross into the box. That said, he will always try to cut in onto his right foot and look for opportunities to assist his striker/s and goal-scoring mids - unless of course his first instinct tells him to launch one of his ballistic missiles into the far top corner. He is an intelligent footballer who rarely wastes an opportunity in the final third of the pitch to threaten the opponent's goal.

The question/s now is/are - will he fit into your current system and will the manager know how to get the best out of him? And, most importantly - can he help you avoid relegation? Unfortunately, only time will tell. I suspect you will need to sign another 1 or 2 players of similar quality in your weakest positions at a minimum. Even peak Messi would struggle to get your lot out of the bottom 3 on his own. That said, I am certain that this lad will make a positive difference.

I normally couldn't give a flying rat's clacker on how an ex-player performs once he has transferred from my club. This is a massive loss for us and it hurts.

But this guy is a special player - character wise first and foremost. And he has given us over 4 years of phenomenal service. He almost single-handedly took us to a UEFA Cup quarter final, where we were only narrowly beaten by the eventual winners Villareal. And yes - he scored against them too! So only a right royal cunt passing themselves off as a Dinamo fan would wish him anything lest than the very best.

And it is for that very reason that I - along with a substantial number of Dinamo Zagreb fans - will be keeping a close eye on Southampton and hoping that Mislav can help you avoid relegation. One thing is for certain - he will get it done or die trying!

Good luck Saints!

 

 

 

Thankyou DinamoFan that is super resume for us.

[DinamoFan]

2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Posted this yesterday but probably makes more sense to put it in here in case people are jumping on to find out about him.

"He scored against Chelsea and AC Milan in the CL this year. He scored against West Ham and twice against Sevilla the year before, and a hattrick against Spurs the year before that.

His Champions League record is 12 games, 6 goals and 1 assist.

His Europa League record is 30 games, 13 goals and 6 assists.

His Croatian League record is 132 games, 57 goals and 29 assists.

Adding a goal and two assists in limited minutes at the World Cup this year. Even if you (somewhat fairly) want to disregard his club record, the numbers above are still very impressive.

There's obviously red flags like you say when a player has just turned 30 and hasn't gone a level above Croatia in his career, but there's enough decent signs with his European record for him to be worth a punt in my eyes."

Ignore the red flags, they are irrelevant.

He is a humble guy who never chased the big bucks. Had opportunities to go to bigger European leagues and clubs but in his own words "There is no bigger club than Dinamo Zagreb" - he was our very own Matt LeTissier - a fiercely loyal local lad who never forgot where he came from.

Mark my words - He will bleed for the shirt!

[swannymere]

16 minutes ago, DinamoFan said:

Good evening folks,

As a diehard Dinamo Zagreb fan since the 1970's, I thought I would sign up to give you guys some perspective on your latest signing.

 

Thanks for taking the time to write and post this, any other gems we can have?

[LGTL]

Don’t do it Mislav, it’s not too late to run a mile mate. 

[Suhari]

1 hour ago, DinamoFan said:

Good evening folks,

As a diehard Dinamo Zagreb fan since the 1970's, I thought I would sign up to give you guys some perspective on your latest signing.

For mine, he is arguably Dinamo's best-ever attacking footballer in European competitions. You have got your hands on an absolute gem of a footballer at an almost bargain-basement price.

And it's not just the eye-popping goal scoring exploits against top-calibre opposition (as 'niceandfriendly's' video links above will attest to, he doesn't do tap-ins a la Lineker) - it's the gut-busting runs in the 90th minute - in both directions - as Mislav is the anti-Ronaldo who will run just as hard towards his own goal to chase down and stop the opposing teams' right-back from creating a goal-scoring opportunity as he is in seeking that last-gasp winner when most of the other guys on the field are going at walking pace.

His unselfish, team-first attitude is infectious. The way he chases, pressures and harries centre-halves trying to play the ball out calmly is almost unnatural in what is a low-intensity, third-rate Croatian league. Suffice to say that he will continue in that fashion playing in the premier league.

There is zero ego with this guy. I think it is not a stretch to say that he is possibly the ultimate team player. And when you are in a relegation scrap - this is exactly the type of guy you need!

From a technical standpoint, he functions best as an outside left in a 4-3-3, but he will adapt to almost any system. It is however important to remember that he is a right-footed player, so don't expect a left-sided Beckham to regularly beat his man and get a conventional cross into the box. That said, he will always try to cut in onto his right foot and look for opportunities to assist his striker/s and goal-scoring mids - unless of course his first instinct tells him to launch one of his ballistic missiles into the far top corner. He is an intelligent footballer who rarely wastes an opportunity in the final third of the pitch to threaten the opponent's goal.

The question/s now is/are - will he fit into your current system and will the manager know how to get the best out of him? And, most importantly - can he help you avoid relegation? Unfortunately, only time will tell. I suspect you will need to sign another 1 or 2 players of similar quality in your weakest positions at a minimum. Even peak Messi would struggle to get your lot out of the bottom 3 on his own. That said, I am certain that this lad will make a positive difference.

I normally couldn't give a flying rat's clacker on how an ex-player performs once he has transferred from my club. This is a massive loss for us and it hurts.

But this guy is a special player - character wise first and foremost. And he has given us over 4 years of phenomenal service. He almost single-handedly took us to a UEFA Cup quarter final, where we were only narrowly beaten by the eventual winners Villareal. And yes - he scored against them too! So only a right royal cunt passing themselves off as a Dinamo fan would wish him anything lest than the very best.

And it is for that very reason that I - along with a substantial number of Dinamo Zagreb fans - will be keeping a close eye on Southampton and hoping that Mislav can help you avoid relegation. One thing is for certain - he will get it done or die trying!

Good luck Saints!

 

 

 

Thanks for the details - really appreciate you taking the time. Looks like a very astute signing.

One thing I want to ask, on behalf of the whole forum: how attractive is his wife/girlfriend?

[DinamoFan]

15 minutes ago, swannymere said:

Thanks for taking the time to write and post this, any other gems we can have?

Gems - as in quality footballers who could help you stay up?

We have three other players who, IMO, would be premiership quality and may be better than what you already have:

Josip Misic - a 29 year old box-to-box mid who covers a lot of ground and has a good range of passing. Instrumental in our CL win over Chelsea.

Price would be around 4 million pounds

Josip Sutalo - a 22 year old centre-half who reads the game well and doesn't panic under pressure. Leipzig almost certain to sign him as a replacement for the departing former Dinamo Zagreb academy product Josko Gvardiol (arguably the best young centre-half on the planet).

Price would be about 15 million pounds. 

Dominik Livakovic - a 27 year old keeper who is the Croatian NT keeper. Famously saved 4 penalties at the recent world cup, as well as making 4 point blank saves against Brazil in the 1/4 final.

Price would be about 10 million pounds.

[Colinjb]

Given the glowing report, I just cannot understand why he would join us. 

[saintant]

5 minutes ago, DinamoFan said:

Gems - as in quality footballers who could help you stay up?

We have three other players who, IMO, would be premiership quality and may be better than what you already have:

Josip Misic - a 29 year old box-to-box mid who covers a lot of ground and has a good range of passing. Instrumental in our CL win over Chelsea.

Price would be around 4 million pounds

Josip Sutalo - a 22 year old centre-half who reads the game well and doesn't panic under pressure. Leipzig almost certain to sign him as a replacement for the departing former Dinamo Zagreb academy product Josko Gvardiol (arguably the best young centre-half on the planet).

Price would be about 15 million pounds. 

Dominik Livakovic - a 27 year old keeper who is the Croatian NT keeper. Famously saved 4 penalties at the recent world cup, as well as making 4 point blank saves against Brazil in the 1/4 final.

Price would be about 10 million pounds.

Wouldn't mind the keeper and young centre back.

[Pamplemousse]

From Livakovic's performance at the World Cup, it looked like he'd be going to bigger clubs than Saints sadly. 

[the saint in winchester]

Wow, DinamoFan, thanks for all you have written. Seriously, I would put 30M on the table tonight and sign those other 3 you just mentioned immediately, especially the keeper, he is world class.

With Yoshida regularly in the stands of late, I'm dreaming of Yoshi bringing us 4 Japanese Samurai warriors, so with those 4 Croatian signings on top, we could have a side that may have the balls to escape relegation, after all.

Do it.

[captainchris]

1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said:

So will we see the end of this shite 5 at the back then? 

For me, we have to go back to a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2, or however you want to view it.

Orsic isn't a striker, he probably would play left of a front 3.  I wonder if he'll come in to play LWB like Edozie came on to play last night.

I'm poritive about this bloke, but I fear he's just going to be watching the ball go over his head and struggle to get involved.  I hope he's on a sensible contract, as we know we're going to be playing championship football next season.

So who will drop out as it sure a hell won’t be antithesis of crap and Jones apple of the eye Elyounoussi !!!!! 

[HarvSFC]

52 minutes ago, DinamoFan said:

Ignore the red flags, they are irrelevant.

He is a humble guy who never chased the big bucks. Had opportunities to go to bigger European leagues and clubs but in his own words "There is no bigger club than Dinamo Zagreb" - he was our very own Matt LeTissier - a fiercely loyal local lad who never forgot where he came from.

Mark my words - He will bleed for the shirt!

In order to sign for Southampton, he has to start saying "There is no bigger club than Goztepe".

[Saint Matty 76]

1 hour ago, DinamoFan said:

Ignore the red flags, they are irrelevant.

He is a humble guy who never chased the big bucks. Had opportunities to go to bigger European leagues and clubs but in his own words "There is no bigger club than Dinamo Zagreb" - he was our very own Matt LeTissier - a fiercely loyal local lad who never forgot where he came from.

Mark my words - He will bleed for the shirt!

Love to hear it, thanks. Your manager any good as well?

[whelk]

Come on boys no song yet?

[Suhari]

9 minutes ago, whelk said:

Come on boys no song yet?

Something by Ozric Tentacles perhaps?

[Crab Lungs]

I’m utterly fascinated that a Dinamo Zagreb fan just used the term ‘rats clacker’

Edited 5 January, 2023 by Crab Lungs

[RedArmy]

He’ll be great in the championship 

[SaintTex]

Nice. I think we all are desperately needing something to feel positive about.

It might be fleeting, but nice nonetheless.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, swannymere said:

Thanks for taking the time to write and post this, any other gems we can have?

Like, 11 of them ? 

[Cascadia Saint]

1 hour ago, DinamoFan said:

Gems - as in quality footballers who could help you stay up?

We have three other players who, IMO, would be premiership quality and may be better than what you already have:

Josip Misic - a 29 year old box-to-box mid who covers a lot of ground and has a good range of passing. Instrumental in our CL win over Chelsea.

Price would be around 4 million pounds

Josip Sutalo - a 22 year old centre-half who reads the game well and doesn't panic under pressure. Leipzig almost certain to sign him as a replacement for the departing former Dinamo Zagreb academy product Josko Gvardiol (arguably the best young centre-half on the planet).

Price would be about 15 million pounds. 

Dominik Livakovic - a 27 year old keeper who is the Croatian NT keeper. Famously saved 4 penalties at the recent world cup, as well as making 4 point blank saves against Brazil in the 1/4 final.

Price would be about 10 million pounds.

Select.

Copy.

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Mail to holynategrenade@sfc.co.uk.

[Convict Colony]

Ok most important news is that his missus is a croatian 5.

Disappointing news it was not what i wanted from this transfer, lets hope he is good at chasing 2nd balls.

 

 

[Convict Colony]

That feeling when someone just signs up and already has more likes than you've had in total over the last 10yrs

 

[Charlie Wayman]

1 hour ago, captainchris said:

So who will drop out as it sure a hell won’t be antithesis of crap and Jones apple of the eye Elyounoussi !!!!! 

Keep getting the digs in my friend despite the fact that he has been our outstanding player of late.

[Convict Colony]

2 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Keep getting the digs in my friend despite the fact that he has been our outstanding player of late.

You can polish a turd but it's still a turd.

[SotonianWill]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Come on boys no song yet?

We all agree Mislav Orsic is magic,

in respect to the game which made us actually up our bid and let’s face it, it’s gonna take a f*cking magician to keep us up. change magic to tragic when we inevitably get relegated. 

Edited 5 January, 2023 by SotonianWill

[derry]

 

5 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Keep getting the digs in my friend despite the fact that he has been our outstanding player of late.

You're having a bath, he is a weak character with some nice touches but a shirker and not going to get in where he might get a knock. What is it one assist and no goals to add to about a hundred chicken outs.

[Bad Wolf]

25 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Ok most important news is that his missus is a croatian 5.

Disappointing news it was not what i wanted from this transfer, lets hope he is good at chasing 2nd balls.

 

 

Bring back Mario Licka IMO

[John Boy Saint]

1 hour ago, Crab Lungs said:

I’m utterly fascinated that a Dinamo Zagreb fan just used the term ‘rats clacker’

Think you might find he lives in an upside down world compared to us, or has spent a lot of time there

[Crab Lungs]

2 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Think you might find he lives in an upside down world compared to us, or has spent a lot of time there

Australian-Croat?!

[spyinthesky]

Might be useful to import a few die hard Zagreb fans to make the lad feel at home and move us all away from the torpor we all are feeling watching Saints over the past few years.

[egg]

As good as this lad looks, we're relying on Jones to coach him and use him properly. 

[Le Timmier]

The reference to more signings in the Romano tweet is interesting. We must be paying this guy an absolute wedge for him to sign. Maybe SR are going to throw a fuck tonne of money at the problem this month.

Edited 5 January, 2023 by Le Timmier
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[SuperSAINT]

Very good Twitter thread (if they are your thing)…

 

[Convict Colony]

I take it back what i said about him playing on the right, according to that thread he's mainly off the left.

For once youtube highlights were not accurate.

[Tauro]

How does he play as a wing back in a 5-3-2?

[Billy the Kidd]

31 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

I take it back what i said about him playing on the right, according to that thread he's mainly off the left.

For once youtube highlights were not accurate.

Some of the vids i saw were reversed weirdly somehow. So i thought he same that he played on the right, but look at the back of the shirts, think the numbers were wrong way round…

Doest Jackson play on the right?

[Channons Windmill]

Interesting highlights but why does he keep stopping play by booting the ball in the net?  I'm sure we'll soon persuade him to stop doing that...

[Convict Colony]

1 minute ago, Billy the Kidd said:

Some of the vids i saw were reversed weirdly somehow. So i thought he same that he played on the right, but look at the back of the shirts, think the numbers were wrong way round…

Doest Jackson play on the right?

Phew i thought i was drunk

[Convict Colony]

1 minute ago, Billy the Kidd said:

Some of the vids i saw were reversed weirdly somehow. So i thought he same that he played on the right, but look at the back of the shirts, think the numbers were wrong way round…

Doest Jackson play on the right?

He's in the centre of a 5