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2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The total lack of quality in the final third is just horrifying. How can any professional players at any level possibly be this bad? It's just woeful.

Because it’s the most dreadful collection of players we’ve ever taken on the Premier League with. Before now we’ve always had Tiss, Pahars, Beattie, Kachloul, Ekelund and co. To give us something. As bad as we were there was always a bit of sparkle to just about keep us up. Even when we went down we had three top quality strikers and an excellent keeper to give us a chance.

 

This bunch though… clueless, useless and gutless. There’s not one player out there I feel like I’d pay to see right now, our best player is a teenage DM who’s spent 2/3 of the season injured.

We had a manager who pulled a rabbit out of a hat season after season but apparently he had to go. Apparently nobody could possibly be worse than clueless Ralph. Apparently there’s some magic formula which makes this this collection of Aldi off-brand players into a respectable mid table team.

At least this relegation won’t hurt like 2005 did, we’ll all have long since given up caring by the middle of March.

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1 minute ago, funkymojo44 said:

To be honest at least we had some semblance of a plan. Ive just watched Lyanco and Bazunu launch the ball up top to no effect for 45mins, I don't think we're built to play that way at all.

This is the issue. Under Ralph we had a pretty solid ‘plan A’, until that was sussed out. Our problem was the lack of ‘plan B’
 

Jones doesn’t even have a plan A. It’s hit and hope stuff. What is he doing on the training ground. 

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At least Ralph had passion with the same group of guys. We’d have had far more points at this stage sticking with Ralph.

I mean, whatever clown thought Nathan Jones was our best option v Ralph, is f*****g clueless - What an awful appointment, too late to rectify it now, we’ve fired through our winnable games and going to get zero from them and a pumping from Everton at Goodison on the horizon too, absolutely no way they’ll sack Nathan and admit their mistake but by god, they need to and open their cheque book before that Goodison game, both I expect we will not do as we are cheap.

This was the game we had to win and we won’t be winning it on the 1st half performance. Safe to say we’ll be playing Championship football with the gap that’s growing between us and 17th now sitting at 4pts and if we don’t win tonight and pick up points vs. Everton we certainly won’t within our run of games against the Top 6 between March and April.

Lose tonight = Relegated. Congratulations, SR, their £70m worth of “wonderkids” and Nathan Jones, might be able to sell them all on for half price when we go down.

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This manager is an idiot, Lyanco ??????, Elyonoussi ?????, Three at the back. Mara and Adams have no idea. Adams misses another one on one.  Half time switch to four at the back take off Elyonoussi and Lyanco. Bring on Armstrong and Edozie and go for it. This is another clusterfuck caused by an obsessive three centrebacks manager picking a team that doesn't work and two players that should never have been picked.

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6 minutes ago, funkymojo44 said:

To be honest at least we had some semblance of a plan. Ive just watched Lyanco and Bazunu launch the ball up top to no effect for 45mins, I don't think we're built to play that way at all.

That's the big concern for me..... what approach is Jones even trying to implement? Just no resemblance of a plan or structure.

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2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

What even is his half time talk going to be ?

'I can't change the club in a matter of weeks... Im not a miracle man'

prick

It's honesty impressive how quickly he's left a mark on the team, albeit shitting things up to new levels. 

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I asked ChatGPT to write Nathan's half-time pep talk. This is what it came up with... LOL:

"Team, I know things aren't looking great out there, but let's not lose faith. We've got 45 minutes left to turn this thing around, and I believe that with God's help, anything is possible.

"I know some of you may be feeling frustrated and defeated, but let's remember that God is with us in all things. He has a plan for us, and this difficult situation may be part of that plan. Let's trust in His will and have faith that He will guide us through this.

"So let's go out there and give it our all. Let's play for Him and let Him guide our actions. Let's remember that it's not about the outcome of this game, but about giving our best effort and glorifying His name.

"And even if things don't go our way on the field, let's remember that our ultimate victory is found in Him. Let's go out there and leave it all on the field, knowing that we are playing for something greater than just a win or a loss.

"God bless, team. Let's do this."

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1 minute ago, M271 said:

Up until to tonight after playing in forum Brighton and improved performance against Fulham who are also in a rich vein of form I gave Nathan the benefit of the doubt. But tonight against Nottingham forest playing this badly is inexcusable, imo the players out there are better than this, what coaching and match prep takes place ? Because it isn’t working.

He is RH mk 2 and the players respect him even less 

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The squad are a bunch of cunts but they are never going to have any respect for Nathan Jones. Absolutely no chance. I’d rather have Pelligrino, Hughes, Wigley Branfoot and Poortvliet as joint managers then this utter cretin. He’s an embarrassment to the club. 

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5 minutes ago, funkymojo44 said:

Haven't posted in some time, so just popping by to say 'thanks' to all the idiots who thought best to get rid of Ralph.

It was the correct decision but the owners should have done it in the summer and appointed someone with some pedigree. No need o be smug because Ralph had to go with his record. The fact that RS contrived to cock everything up doesn't make the decision to sack Ralph wrong.

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Here is a selection of comments from the fan forum which show how we have lost our way but also the arrogance of Semmens:

Ralph: Finally, and this is the most important thing for me, we should never lose our DNA and our DNA will always be to be active and to be a pressing team. I think we were famous for this in the last four years. It was what made a lot of big teams struggle sometimes against us and this was our way of being active on the pitch - pressing high. I think there was a clear identity when you saw a team from us playing there you knew it was Southampton because it was active, always on the front foot.

But the DNA must be always there and I can guarantee you that even if we are now discussing about a back five or whatever, one thing should always be the same. That you see a team out there that us running more than the opponent, who is is fighting more than the opponent, who is sprinting more on the front foot and we try to give you the best effort that we can put in the game. And then we all hope that this is also a successful way of playing football.

Semmens: 90 per cent of what you see in the media is not true. The fact that Everton are trying to take our striker on loan - it’s not real, it won’t happen, don’t worry about that.

From our perspective, we are massively comfortable with everyone we bring in. Everybody's here and we look forward to working with them

First of all, we have a really good squad. We can't get into the individuals and talk about people's future but both those guys are fantastic people

Semmens: I also go to 30 games a year on the weekends and miss my kids and you know, we get it. I drive back from those games disappointed too. For me personally, I don't think it's ever a lack of effort.

https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/football-news/che-adams-future-southamptons-striker-7449055

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3 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

What even is his half time talk going to be ?

'I can't change the club in a matter of weeks... Im not a miracle man'

prick

Yeah that press conference was a bit of a wrong one wasn't it?

 

New manager coming in effectively saying "look, chances are I won't be able to get us out of this sheet show we are currently in unless there is a miracle". How can he get away with saying that? You want the manager to come in and say "whilst we are in a bad place right now we will fight tooth and nail to get out of this relegation zone. It is only a few points before we are in safety again and I am confident with the lads I have here that we can do this". Instil confidence in the team, that is what a Manager is meant to do, not take away what little there may have been left and accept out fate so early on. Get the one club pony prick out of this club and appoint Dyche. He will put the fear into this team and make them more solid. SR you need to do something fast

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

RS need to bite the bullet and admit they got the appointment of Jones horribly wrong. They owe that to the paying fans because they are having the piss taken out of them. Press the reset button, get a new manager in pronto and start spending money in this window. If not we may as well give up. It's a total clusterfuck. Semmens needs to come up with reasons why he chose these charlatans as well instead of hiding in his ivory tower.

They don’t give a fuck about the paying fans. Match going fans are an inconvenience. They have an opinion, they can complain and Boo, we don’t want the international TV audiences seeing this, it’s them that matter.

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2 minutes ago, M271 said:

Up until to tonight after playing in forum Brighton and improved performance against Fulham who are also in a rich vein of form I gave Nathan the benefit of the doubt. But tonight against Nottingham forest playing this badly is inexcusable, imo the players out there are better than this, what coaching and match prep takes place ? Because it isn’t working.

Exactly where I’m at. This second half needs to be monumentally better to give me even a glimmer of optimism. We just look disorganised and clueless. Jones looks like he’s having a negative impact.

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Just now, LGTL said:

The squad are a bunch of cunts but they are never going to have any respect for Nathan Jones. Absolutely no chance. I’d rather have Pelligrino, Hughes, Wigley Branfoot and Poortvliet as joint managers then this utter cretin. He’s an embarrassment to the club. 

There is the rub. Lack of respect by Premier League players to a Championship manager. Why would you play for him?

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

They don’t give a fuck about the paying fans. Match going fans are an inconvenience. They have an opinion, they can complain and Boo, we don’t want the international TV audiences seeing this, it’s them that matter.

They’ll give a fuck next year when it’s only parachute revenue and not PL broadcast lolly.

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4 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Stupid post. Just because Jones is not up to the task (not helped by the clusterfuck Ralph left) doesn’t suddenly make getting rid of Ralph wrong. The mistake was who we replaced him with. The Ralph lovers like you were part of our problem. 

I guarantee you under Ralph we'd be playing better than this showing so far.

But that's history so I'll let the fans that wanted him gone own the moment.

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5 minutes ago, Dman said:

This is the issue. Under Ralph we had a pretty solid ‘plan A’, until that was sussed out. Our problem was the lack of ‘plan B’
 

Jones doesn’t even have a plan A. It’s hit and hope stuff. What is he doing on the training ground. 

Anything But Ralph though, yes? 

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Just now, funkymojo44 said:

I guarantee you under Ralph we'd be playing better than this showing so far.

But that's history so I'll let the fans that wanted him gone own the moment.

Of course we would. You could stick anyone on this forum in charge and we’d be no worse… it’s that bad. 
 

We’d still have gone down under Ralph as well though. The Rot started with him. 

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1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said:

No subs, no formation change. He's learned nothing at all. 

He’s not up to it. We had two shots on goal all half. These players are in a formation that has proven,m time and again, does not work with them.

At least the St Mary’s pitch looks good. Unsurprising given the millions of pounds worth of shit we put on it every week.

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2 minutes ago, funkymojo44 said:

I guarantee you under Ralph we'd be playing better than this showing so far.

But that's history so I'll let the fans that wanted him gone own the moment.

I think you’re kind of missing the point. No one surely thinks Ralph is worse than Jones. The mistake was not getting rid of Ralph, it was replacing him with Jones. I’m not sure how much simpler I can put it.

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Lighthouse

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

This is the darkest time before the dawn, 2nd half we will look like a team reborn.

 

If we dont I will come back and delete this.

Actually it’s darkest in a subterranean fissure at the bottom of the Marianna Trench, which is engulfed in suspended silt particles, has never seen sunlight and is inhabited only by primitive, plankton-based life forms.

Probably a more apt metaphor.

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