The Loudest Voice

[Miltonaggro]

19 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

Which is why I don’t think protests will work this season, but thousands of empty seats next season when the clock starts ticking on the parachute payments will act as more of an incentive for SR to start running SFC properly and taking more of an interest. The games v Blackpool, Rotherham etc with a boycott going could be down to 15k and the break even figure last time in the Champ was around 23k. Only so long Dragan would fund the difference for without a clear plan to reverse the decline. 

Rasmus think we are a replica of grateful little Brentford with a bigger ground. Misjudged. If this clown show takes us down it’s not going to be pretty for SR in the Championship, but as ever loyal support suffers. 

[Alan Sugarfree]

3 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I think the rot set in when Kat took over and turned us into nothing more than a footballer stock exchange.  SR are all about exactly the same thing.

I’m totally fed up with being a Saints supporter.  It just isn’t enjoyable any more.

I’ve never felt more disconnected with the club than I do now. I can’t wait for the season to end once again. I’ve decided it’s not worth renewing my ST after being talked into it last summer.

I was at the Branfoot protests in the ground then round to the car park. Under Lowe it was vocal enough about how unhappy the fans were with him. Now there’s nothing. I was obviously younger then so perhaps it’s a generational thing that the generally more vocal fans have changed with the times.

 

[saint1977]

6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I think the rot set in when Kat took over and turned us into nothing more than a footballer stock exchange.  SR are all about exactly the same thing.

I’m totally fed up with being a Saints supporter.  It just isn’t enjoyable any more.

Exactly how I feel, I mean Saints have always turned a profit on players ever since I can remember and it’s fine as long as you re-invest well. 2014-16 that happened but then failed to keep pace when £15m became £20-25m and so on, leading a decline in quality quite rapidly by Pellegrino. Still no excuse for the lack of identity and purpose, MK Dons Mark 2. The targeting of the more vocal fans eg Block 1 has further disenfranchised long-term supporters. It will take a sea change in attitude and engagement to win 10-15k fans back next season. More likely to be administration part 2 forcing change.

[harvey]

2 minutes ago, Alan Sugarfree said:

I’ve never felt more disconnected with the club than I do now. I can’t wait for the season to end once again. I’ve decided it’s not worth renewing my ST after being talked into it last summer.

I was at the Branfoot protests in the ground then round to the car park. Under Lowe it was vocal enough about how unhappy the fans were with him. Now there’s nothing. I was obviously younger then so perhaps it’s a generational thing that the generally more vocal fans have changed with the times.

 

I think I still have the Echo picture from the car park protest somewhere!

[The Cat]

2 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

sadly it’s not saints in corporate

Lyanco has bought a box and had pictures of himself put up all over the walls inside.

[sad saints fan]

I still think that the team that sports republic want at the top of their holdings is Goztepe. The potential earnings from a much larger population (over 4 million in the province of Izmir) is much greater than anything we can match in southern Hampshire . 

[Miltonaggro]

36 minutes ago, sad saints fan said:

I still think that the team that sports republic want at the top of their holdings is Goztepe. The potential earnings from a much larger population (over 4 million in the province of Izmir) is much greater than anything we can match in southern Hampshire . 

On that basis SR should be looking to acquire CF Esperanca de Lagos. Available for a song and a city catchment of 13.5 million potential fans. 

[saintant]

I can't imagine Dragan is happy at the way SR are running his investment into the ground. Hopefully he is rattling a few cages. Having said that hopefully he'll be providing some decent funds for the January window because clearly we need some new blood with fire in their bellies and a clue as to how to play football. Problem is, he may decide to cut his losses the way SR is running this shit show.

[Dusic]

Whilst we have a chance to stay in the PL, which we currently do, then its surely a case of creating as good an atmosphere as possible. Booing and chanting about Jones or SR isnt going to help at all.

These guys aren't stupid. For years the club has monitored social media etc, they will know exactly what the feeling is.

Everton fans are amongst the most miserable, moany bastards on earth but when they realised the team really needed them they made Goodison loud and made a very big difference for their team who largely survived based on a run of unexpected home results.

One ingedient that you really need in a relegation battle is good support. Whilst clearly its been a long period of under performance from Saints, I really don't think its the time to make things toxic or you basically do any opposition Manager's team talk for them...'start well and their fans will turn and their players who lack confidence anyway will become even more nervous and you will pick them off with ease.'

[Alan Sugarfree]

1 minute ago, Dusic said:

Whilst we have a chance to stay in the PL, which we currently do, then its surely a case of creating as good an atmosphere as possible. Booing and chanting about Jones or SR isnt going to help at all.

These guys aren't stupid. For years the club has monitored social media etc, they will know exactly what the feeling is.

Everton fans are amongst the most miserable, moany bastards on earth but when they realised the team really needed them they made Goodison loud and made a very big difference for their team who largely survived based on a run of unexpected home results.

One ingedient that you really need in a relegation battle is good support. Whilst clearly its been a long period of under performance from Saints, I really don't think its the time to make things toxic or you basically do any opposition Manager's team talk for them...'start well and their fans will turn and their players who lack confidence anyway will become even more nervous and you will pick them off with ease.'

I’m sorry but it’s a two way thing, the team haven’t looked arsed for as long as I can remember. I put that down to the fact Ralph had lost them. Boxing days game was even worse than anything served up so far this season. They could at least look like they are trying and care!

If you think the goons in charge read and give a toss about what’s written on social media then I suspect you still believe in Santa Claus.

We need to give Jones a chance but he is on a very short trial period unfortunately for him. 
 

Regarding the atmosphere, we’ve not had much to cheer about this last calendar year but I’d go back to the Liverpool game - end of last season. They put out their second string, we went at them, got a goal and the ground was buzzing as we’d been crap for months, only for us to revert to type and sit back instead of trying to get another. Very soon Liverpool got some momentum and the feeling of “here we go” set in.

like I said, it’s a two way thing.

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Alan Sugarfree said:

I’m sorry but it’s a two way thing, the team haven’t looked arsed for as long as I can remember. I put that down to the fact Ralph had lost them. Boxing days game was even worse than anything served up so far this season. They could at least look like they are trying and care!

If you think the goons in charge read and give a toss about what’s written on social media then I suspect you still believe in Santa Claus.

We need to give Jones a chance but he is on a very short trial period unfortunately for him. 
 

Regarding the atmosphere, we’ve not had much to cheer about this last calendar year but I’d go back to the Liverpool game - end of last season. They put out their second string, we went at them, got a goal and the ground was buzzing as we’d been crap for months, only for us to revert to type and sit back instead of trying to get another. Very soon Liverpool got some momentum and the feeling of “here we go” set in.

like I said, it’s a two way thing.

The team has always looked like they were trying. All the games under Ralph were tight affairs which were decided one way or the other by the quality of our finishing and goal keeper, rather than the team strolling around the park whilst our opponents scored at will.

I won’t be booing the team any time soon. They’re a group of players with very limited talent trying their best. 

[egg]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

The team has always looked like they were trying. All the games under Ralph were tight affairs which were decided one way or the other by the quality of our finishing and goal keeper, rather than the team strolling around the park whilst our opponents scored at will.

I won’t be booing the team any time soon. They’re a group of players with very limited talent trying their best. 

Yeah, I remember those tight 9 Nils. 

[Lighthouse]

12 minutes ago, egg said:

Yeah, I remember those tight 9 Nils. 

I was talking about this season, not that I particularly care about 2 out of 173 games.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I was talking about this season, not that I particularly care about 2 out of 173 games.

To be fair, putting aside spurs, city and newcastle, we haven't been battered in any other game this season. 

[Turkish]

17 minutes ago, egg said:

To be fair, putting aside spurs, city and newcastle, we haven't been battered in any other game this season. 

Last season battered by Leicester, Chelsea, Villa, Liverpool and City in the cup

Season before Spurs, United, City, year before that Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester. 

Will no doubt be a few more where they came from before the end of the season as getting battered is definitely our thing.

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Yeah, I remember those tight 9 Nils. 

The fucking good old days now! 

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Last season battered by Leicester, Chelsea, Villa, Liverpool and City in the cup

Season before Spurs, United, City, year before that Chelsea, Liverpool, Leicester. 

Will no doubt be a few more where they came from before the end of the season as getting battered is definitely our thing.

That’s bog standard for any club outside the big six, any season. Poch lost by three goals against Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City. Even Strachan, when we had the best defence outside the top four, lost 6-1, 3-0 and 3-1.

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

That’s bog standard for any club outside the big six, any season. Poch lost by three goals against Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City. Even Strachan, when we had the best defence outside the top four, lost 6-1, 3-0 and 3-1.

Name the other Clubs that have lost 9-0, 9-0 and 6-0 in the the last 3 seasons. 

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Name the other Clubs that have lost 9-0, 9-0 and 6-0 in the the last 3 seasons. 

I can’t be arsed going back over all that again. The original point was that the players should be booed because they lack effort. I disagree, I think they’ve always been trying and up until recently games have generally been tight affairs, decided generally against our favour by our lack of quality in both six yard boxes.

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I can’t be arsed going back over all that again. The original point was that the players should be booed because they lack effort. I disagree, I think they’ve always been trying and up until recently games have generally been tight affairs, decided generally against our favour by our lack of quality in both six yard boxes.

Just saying “I can’t” would have done mate 

You were the one who started going on about every other clubs gets their arse handed too them regularly, not me. “Bog standard” it is apparently. Except it isnt

Edited 28 December, 2022 by Turkish

[JRM]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I can’t be arsed going back over all that again. The original point was that the players should be booed because they lack effort. I disagree, I think they’ve always been trying and up until recently games have generally been tight affairs, decided generally against our favour by our lack of quality in both six yard boxes.

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

[CB Fry]

7 minutes ago, JRM said:

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

There were a few games last season where the team capitulated, or just collapsed after a half an hour of flattering to decieve. Or just rolled over from the get go.

This Ralph team trait of always "trying" and "fighting" sounds like the biggest load of post-rationalisation bollocks I have heard.

Especially in the second half of last season we were weak as piss over and over again.

Edited 28 December, 2022 by CB Fry

[Lighthouse]

23 minutes ago, JRM said:

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

I’m talking about this season.

25 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Just saying “I can’t” would have done mate 

You were the one who started going on about every other clubs gets their arse handed too them regularly, not me. “Bog standard” it is apparently. Except it isnt

In the last 10-12 years can remember Man City losing 8-0, Wigan losing 9-1, Arsenal 8-2, Man U 6-1 at home, Sunderland 8-0, Norwich 7-0, Liverpool 7-2, Bournemouth 9-0, Villa 8-0, Hull 7-1 and Chelsea 6-0. In fact 6-0s are ten a penny.

It is bog standard for a couple of teams every season, it’s not relevant to our effort this season.

[CB Fry]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11661/12555613/aston-villa-4-0-southampton-philippe-coutinho-shines-as-villa-breeze-past-saints

 

Blood sweat and tears for the club that day. Everything left out there on the pitch.

[LaptopSaint]

23 minutes ago, JRM said:

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

Fair point. I was at both games, and there seemed to be less effort at Brentford away than at Brighton this week. 
Brighton was more lack of confidence than lack of effort. We looked scared to press, confused, and the soft first goal knocked whatever stuffing we had right out of us.

Standing at the other end of the ground I presumed there must have been a massive deflection that my fading eyesight couldn’t see. But, nope. 

Nathan needs a dozen games to make his mark. Trouble is, if he fails we’re as good as down. 

 

 

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I’m talking about this season.

In the last 10-12 years can remember Man City losing 8-0, Wigan losing 9-1, Arsenal 8-2, Man U 6-1 at home, Sunderland 8-0, Norwich 7-0, Liverpool 7-2, Bournemouth 9-0, Villa 8-0, Hull 7-1 and Chelsea 6-0. In fact 6-0s are ten a penny.

It is bog standard for a couple of teams every season, it’s not relevant to our effort this season.

Not many teams do it over and over again. In fact I can only think of one.

[Turkish]

27 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11661/12555613/aston-villa-4-0-southampton-philippe-coutinho-shines-as-villa-breeze-past-saints

 

Blood sweat and tears for the club that day. Everything left out there on the pitch.

Getting beat 4-0 away at villa is bot standard for most clubs 

[AlexLaw76]

When we shipped 6 at home to Chelsea, I thought that was a particular low.  We were absolutely appalling that day and it could have easily been 10

[Turkish]

 

 

55 minutes ago, JRM said:

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

No surprises really when the bloke at the top of the club says where we finish in the table it irrelevant 

[Lord Duckhunter]

I don’t think there’s another team’s supporters who when asked “were you at the 9-0”  reply…….which one? 

[Turkish]

It’d be interesting to see which clubs have lost be 3 or more goals the most in the last 5 seasons. We’ve got to be up there and could well be top of that particular league as well. I could 14 games where we’d lost by 4 or more earlier in 4 season earlier on, didn’t count 3-0 losses which is also a pretty heavy loss

we looked a few weeks ago at least amount of wins on the last 5 seasons and it was only Crystal Palace that came close to us

what a club!

[Convict Colony]

23 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Too many noddy supporters. 

To be fair he's got a certain charisma

Edited 28 December, 2022 by Convict Colony

[sledger]

if boxing day is the best they can do in the way of effort and aggression then we wont reach 20 points,1 yellow card while they pass rings round us come on

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

When we shipped 6 at home to Chelsea, I thought that was a particular low.  We were absolutely appalling that day and it could have easily been 10

The 2-5 loss at home to spurs 2 years ago was a masterclass in the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting a different result. 2 spurs goals narrowly ruled out for marginal offsides before we conceded 5 goals from exactly way with the same shite defending. 

Edited 28 December, 2022 by Turkish

[danjosaint]

20 minutes ago, Turkish said:

The 2-5 loss at home to spurs 2 years ago was a masterclass in the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting a different result. 2 spurs goals narrowly ruled out for marginal offsides before we conceded 5 goals from exactly way with the same shite defending. 

But Ralph wasnt the problem 

[notnowcato]

Struggling to remember what this thread is about. 
 

2 way thing my arse. If you call yourself a supporter or a fan then by definition it’s through thick and thin, grow a dick stop acting like an entitled prick. 

[Noodles34]

7 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Struggling to remember what this thread is about. 
 

2 way thing my arse. If you call yourself a supporter or a fan then by definition it’s through thick and thin, grow a dick stop acting like an entitled prick. 

So just sit tight and clap? 

[LGTL]

16 hours ago, JRM said:

Out of interest did you go to Brentford away last season? Absolutely no way was that side trying their best , on the beach would be an understatement 

That Brentford game annoyed me far more than the two 9-0’s. It’s fine though, the majority of teams in the PL regularly get a good smashing at places like Brentford apparently. 

[Midfield_General]

14 hours ago, Turkish said:

The 2-5 loss at home to spurs 2 years ago was a masterclass in the insanity of doing the same thing and expecting a different result. 2 spurs goals narrowly ruled out for marginal offsides before we conceded 5 goals from exactly way with the same shite defending. 

Setting up to play a high line against Spurs, when anyone who had ever watched them play knew that Kane would drop off and keep trying to play in Son to run in behind, was a cause for massive concern. Not changing it while watching Son score basically the same goal four times as a result, was an almost unfathomable level of tactical incompetence from everyone involved - the manager, the coaches and the players. I'd stuck by Ralph up to that point, through the 9-0s and everything else, but that was the match where he lost me. It was just comically inept. An under-10s manager would have changed it after the first few. 

[Morse]

It's easy to laugh at protesters in general, but the truth is protest does keep the pressure on those making decisions in whatever walk of life.

SISA were knocked by some at the time,  but they kept the issue in the newspapers and made it difficult for the clubs then owners to pretend all was rosy. 

Never looks good when owners like Sport Republic are entertaining their sponsors, if there is a couple of hundred spoty herberts outside singing 'hang the board'.