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Over the few weeks and months there’s going to be a lot of discontent in the stadium, there already is to be fair. 
So what’s acceptable?

booing players during the game, at HT or FT?

is the “we pay our money, we can say what we like” true?

Singing “Jones Out” already? 
 

or so we support whatever players are out there,  come what may? 
 

I’m not someone that will actively boo the players I can’t stand, Ely being a prime example but I will reserve the right to shout my frustrations during the game. Not sure I see the point of singing “sacked in the morning to Jones” because I just think we look twats to the oppo fans  

There going to be a lit of happy clappers supporting the team whatever and a lot of vitriol from the Ubers perhaps  

Going to be interesting, a civil war in the horizon maybe ? 

 

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It's been so poor, particularly at home, for such a long time now that it is difficult for anyone to muster the energy to stay behind the team. It's exhausting. 

I remember long periods where if Saints went behind, the crowd would be louder than if we were winning. 

Of course pricing out a lot of long-term fans who were there all through the previous fall down the leagues and back up again didn't help.

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We have the most compliant fanbase in the league (bar maybe Bournemouth)

Look at the Fans Forum.  lots of clapping, hollering and people getting giddy when Semmens speaks.  Only 1 real dissenting voice and that was not backed up

"civil war"?  Those days are long gone.

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25 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

TBH I think most people have just got better things to do and more important issues in their life than a couple of hours of moon howling outside St Mary’s. It’s not like our owners are even in the country.

What happened to that fat little fuck who fell one his arse in front of the northam on match at half time. Used to work in McDonald’s hedge end and organised the March to st Mary’s with the coffin in Lowe’s day?
or Um Pahars, Dave Ford an co

Chance to famous again lads

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2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What happened to that fat little fuck who fell on his arse in front of the northam on match at half time. Used to work in McDonald’s hedge end and organised the March to st Mary’s with the coffin in Lowe’s day? Chance to famous again lad.

This one?

 

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12 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What happened to that fat little fuck who fell one his arse in front of the northam on match at half time. Used to work in McDonald’s hedge end and organised the March to st Mary’s with the coffin in Lowe’s day?

The slippy Santa race fat man who split his pants? I got an infraction on here back in the day for calling him a fat embarrassment.

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4 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

The slippy Santa race fat man who split his pants? I got an infraction on here back in the day for calling him a fat embarrassment.

That’s him, same geezer that organised the Lowe protests with the coffin back in about 2008. Fell on his fat arse wearing a Santa suit whilst doing some half time entertainment, split his trousers like you say. 

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Too many noddy supporters. 

Assume you'll be (co)-leading the non-Noddy supporters revolt? (in-between berating the Noddy fans via the interweb from the comfort of your sofa). What's your action plan? (Genuinely interested) 

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We've got a squad lacking in quality, grit and commitment to the cause, which has been further hamstrung by inadequate recruitment/staffing and unfocused, self-aggrandizing senior 'leadership'.

Yet still some see fit to turn on their own...

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1 hour ago, LGTL said:

Our home form has been hideous for about 5 years now. Proper rank. There’s so much apathy that not enough people give a shit unfortunately. 

Oh for the days of The Dell car park during the Branfoot protests. Port Vale after the cup tie was particularly heated as I recall. 

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6 minutes ago, Badger said:

Oh for the days of The Dell car park during the Branfoot protests. Port Vale after the cup tie was particularly heated as I recall. 

I remember the sit in protest on the Milton under branfoot. As agreed everyone sat down, well when I say everyone probably about 750, the stewards came along and said right off you go lads, so everyone did. It was absolutely pathetic 

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3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I remember the sit in protest on the Milton under branfoot. As agreed everyone sat down, well when I say everyone probably about 750, the stewards came along and said right off you go lads, so everyone did. It was absolutely pathetic 

Really ? I thought SISA (was that the name?) orchestrated it pretty well with the red cards to get the message across.

After Port Vale I was surprised, as I think the club and Police were, by the strength of feeling and protest. It wasn’t just the usual suspects and age group either. There were many grey haired season ticket holders also venting their frustration with it.  Possibly helped get the message across as Branfoot was gone within days. 

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2 minutes ago, Badger said:

Really ? I thought SISA (was that the name?) orchestrated it pretty well with the red cards to get the message across.

After Port Vale I was surprised, as I think the club and Police were, by the strength of feeling and protest. It wasn’t just the usual suspects and age group either. There were many grey haired season ticket holders also venting their frustration with it.  Possibly helped get the message across as Branfoot was gone within days. 

IIRC the Milton road sit in was earlier that that. After an abject 0-1 home loss, I may be wrong but I’m thinking Oldham. I was about 15 and with a load of mates from school we were Milton Enders and really remember it well. The red card stuff was a bit later and well organised, remember going to the pub in Oxford street area for the first SISA meeting and it was rammed 

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I remember the march to St Marys to protest against Lowe (think it was before a game v Swansea?) being rubbished on here, people were adamant it would be about 10 people turning up and be an absolute wash out. Turned the corner at Bargate and the crowd in front of me was huge. Was a good feeling knowing people cared enough.

Really sad the apathy that has set in now.

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55 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Really sad the apathy that has set in now.

The rot started the summer les Reed told the fans, "no one will be sold". And then sold lambert the day after season ticket renewals closed. The rest is history.

That summer absolutely shattered the bond between the fans and the promotion team and our atmosphere and chants have been poor (and getting worse since). The period that followed got us used to our "lucky to compete" mentality, with players coming to the club seeing us a stepping stone, only to be sold/leave at the first opportunity - to the point that now we have probably only one player that truly cares about the club (JWP), a load of disinterested average squad players, and some kids. 

Huge air of deja vu for me. We've appointed a weak mananger who is out of his depth, have a load of average squad fillers in the first team, and a fanbase that is so sick of it / apathetic that some of them would quite happily rip it all down to start again. Bleak years ahead I fear... But then we aren't down yet and we do have a January window to try and save the season. 

What's worse is we seem to have a total lack of leadership and direction - a chairman who is playing fantasy football with a cherry picked yes man mananger who is out of his depth, and signing players that aren't good enough for this level with no independant head of recruitment. Grim. 

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As some have indicated, you wonder if the apathy of most fans will see an acceptance and resignation. I think we’ll just slide into relegation without too much protest because let’s face it, we have been waiting for it for the last two or three years. 

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1 hour ago, Noodles34 said:

As some have indicated, you wonder if the apathy of most fans will see an acceptance and resignation. I think we’ll just slide into relegation without too much protest because let’s face it, we have been waiting for it for the last two or three years. 

the problem is what exactly are we protesting? the manager - been in the job 3 games. the board, semmens I can see the problem with massively. the owners, been here about a year, did spend more than previous and if given the right player say they will spend more (30million gakpo). SR fault is for buying into Semmens stupid plan to make us the premier league version of Jan poortvilets team. 

all signs point towards a board/ semmens protest. he didn’t have the guts to sack ralph leaving it to Rasmus, and keeping us free falling for too long. He helped create that playbook who SR have followed religiously to no avail. His fan forum mate Steele shut down the IN instead of trying a deal to limit away fans instead killing the atmosphere, victimising our fanbase. Semmens seems like a good businessman and he kept the club financially sturdy but his long term work has led us to certain relegation in my eyes. 

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8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

If the Board are happy with the team's trajectory, who are we to argue ?

Maybe they are? It’s a genuine concern of mine that a parachute payment maybe a more attractive proposition  than a big January spend, which may still result in  being relegated. I still have no idea what SR are all about.

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Unpopular opinion you pay your money and a lot of it so you can say what you like as long as it doesn't cross the line into abusive language/violence/homophobia 

That said it won't necessarily help the team but at the same time it doesn't seem to make our lot any worse either 

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I think that the point about this board caring primarily about money is clearly true, particularly with the recent behaviour around closing blocks, discussing putting up barriers whilst allowing unstewarded away fans to waltz around home areas and cause problems. However, given Ted Talk’s career in PR (My Struggle and the rise of Brentford) the use of the ‘turn it to 11 to drown out booing’ stooge on the stadium PA, and stream of drivel and nostalgia from the child media team - constant negative publicity won’t sit well. So, if they’ve previously seen the support as an inconvenience, they are going to fucking hate what’s coming the way of their ‘brand’ - less ‘Red Bull’ more ‘traditional bitter’. 

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3 minutes ago, Alan Sugarfree said:

Whatever happened to that lot?

 

didn’t that Bull fella move away and stop going completely?

Bully found love and moved away to Wales I think. Nice guy and lost an awful lot of weight. 

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I was a season ticket holder from 2001 - 2014. I remember the Lowe protests, the despair of relegation, the frustration of the play-offs, the elation of avoiding relegation, the club being on the brink of the abyss, the phoenix of a club we turned into under Liebherr and the elation of the JPT and back-to-back promotions.

 

We have seen good times in the PL since being back. The period since Pellegrino has been soul-destroying, peppered with a few positive points here and there. I dread to think what our overall home league performance looks like from Pellegrino to now.

 

It is no wonder the home support is apathetic. Beaten into submission. Couple that with the corporate, social-media driven nonsense migration of fans we see today. Embodied by the prospect of welcoming opposing fans into the home end, persecuting any fans that try to rouse a decent atmosphere, alongside praising the prawn-sandwich, selfie-taking bunches.

Pretty despondent about it all, really.

The players are a group of duds, bar a few. No grit, resilience, passion, ruthlessness, footballing intellect or vision.

Then we have the board. The less said the better, really. They'd see a protest and their minds would interpret it as a celebration of their success.

 

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27 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Bully found love and moved away to Wales I think. Nice guy and lost an awful lot of weight. 

I remember seeing him on the Jeremy Kyle show a few years ago. Saw him around a fair bit but never spoke to him, by all accounts a nice fella.

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14 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

TBH I think most people have just got better things to do and more important issues in their life than a couple of hours of moon howling outside St Mary’s. It’s not like our owners are even in the country.

Which is why I don’t think protests will work this season, but thousands of empty seats next season when the clock starts ticking on the parachute payments will act as more of an incentive for SR to start running SFC properly and taking more of an interest. The games v Blackpool, Rotherham etc with a boycott going could be down to 15k and the break even figure last time in the Champ was around 23k. Only so long Dragan would fund the difference for without a clear plan to reverse the decline. 

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