Fulham 2-1 Saints - Match Thread

[Dusic]

Fulham aren't going to be relegated butbwe badly need something to have a bit of momentum going into the Forest game which is an absolutely massive game and pivotal for our season.

[Saint Garrett]

I want to see:

Macca;

KWP Bella Salisu Perraud;

Lavia;

Elyounoussi JWP SArmstrong Edozie

Adams

Bit similar to how we setup at Leicester away. Wouldn’t bother me if Aribo, AArmstrong (wide left) or Djenepo (LB) played though, 

[Saint86]

  On 31/12/2022 at 09:10, Saint Garrett said:

I want to see:

Macca;

KWP Bella Salisu Perraud;

Lavia;

Elyounoussi JWP SArmstrong Edozie

Adams

Bit similar to how we setup at Leicester away. Wouldn’t bother me if Aribo, AArmstrong (wide left) or Djenepo (LB) played though, 

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Agreed. That's more of less our strongest 11 I would say. Under Ralph I'd back that team to get results in the upcoming two games. Issue was he didn't really have a fit lavia, ABK, kwp for much of the season. Under Jones... Who knows... Here is to hoping. But tbh, how many of us are expecting him not to put lyanco in over abk, and diallo in for Armstrong 😭

[Convict Colony]

@stevegrant doing his journalism thing

Southampton

Barring a vaguely competent few weeks at the end of August and beginning of September, it’s been an unmitigated disaster so far. We were excellent in victory over Chelsea and Leicester during that little run, but other than that it has been thin gruel indeed. Roméo Lavia has been excellent when he’s been able to get on the pitch, but the fact we’re so heavily reliant on an 18-year-old to look like a functioning team is pretty damning. The points total and league position tells its own story, as does the utterly baffling appointment of Nathan Jones.

We will finish: Bottom. It’s not a completely lost cause yet, but the signs aren’t good.

What we need in the window: A scorer – we’ve needed one since we let Villa hand over the thick end of £30m for Danny Ings nearly two years ago. With a fee and terms agreed with Cody Gakpo back in the summer before PSV pulled the plug, there’s clearly money for the right player. We also appear to be looking for another centre-back, which seems to miss the point that our defensive problems start with the lack of protection afforded to the porous back line by the midfield in front of it.

Our best-ever signing was: The £1m paid to Bristol Rovers for Rickie Lambert in 2009 – better than a goal every other game in 235 appearances to bring us back from the League One doldrums to the Premier League and on the verge of European football.

And the worst … Plenty of candidates, but it must be Guido Carrillo, a desperate January signing by Mauricio Pellegrino (who was sacked a few weeks later). He came for £19m, didn’t score, and after two years and two loan spells away we cut our losses.

 Steve Grant SaintsWeb.co.uk; @SteveGrant1983

[Chez]

  On 31/12/2022 at 09:35, Convict Colony said:

@stevegrant doing his journalism thing

Southampton

Barring a vaguely competent few weeks at the end of August and beginning of September, it’s been an unmitigated disaster so far. We were excellent in victory over Chelsea and Leicester during that little run, but other than that it has been thin gruel indeed. Roméo Lavia has been excellent when he’s been able to get on the pitch, but the fact we’re so heavily reliant on an 18-year-old to look like a functioning team is pretty damning. The points total and league position tells its own story, as does the utterly baffling appointment of Nathan Jones.

We will finish: Bottom. It’s not a completely lost cause yet, but the signs aren’t good.

What we need in the window: A scorer – we’ve needed one since we let Villa hand over the thick end of £30m for Danny Ings nearly two years ago. With a fee and terms agreed with Cody Gakpo back in the summer before PSV pulled the plug, there’s clearly money for the right player. We also appear to be looking for another centre-back, which seems to miss the point that our defensive problems start with the lack of protection afforded to the porous back line by the midfield in front of it.

Our best-ever signing was: The £1m paid to Bristol Rovers for Rickie Lambert in 2009 – better than a goal every other game in 235 appearances to bring us back from the League One doldrums to the Premier League and on the verge of European football.

And the worst … Plenty of candidates, but it must be Guido Carrillo, a desperate January signing by Mauricio Pellegrino (who was sacked a few weeks later). He came for £19m, didn’t score, and after two years and two loan spells away we cut our losses.

 Steve Grant SaintsWeb.co.uk; @SteveGrant1983

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Perfect summary. Thin gruel indeed. 

[Chez]

  On 31/12/2022 at 09:10, Saint Garrett said:

I want to see:

Macca;

KWP Bella Salisu Perraud;

Lavia;

Elyounoussi JWP SArmstrong Edozie

Adams

Bit similar to how we setup at Leicester away. Wouldn’t bother me if Aribo, AArmstrong (wide left) or Djenepo (LB) played though, 

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Agreed, but Isn't macca injured?

[Harry_SFC]

  On 31/12/2022 at 10:24, Chez said:

Agreed, but Isn't macca injured?

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Yeah he's sprained his ankle apparently. 

[Chez]

  On 31/12/2022 at 10:26, Harry_SFC said:

Yeah he's sprained his ankle apparently. 

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Gotcha. From NJs comments, I am pretty sure he'd be playing otherwise.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

  On 31/12/2022 at 09:10, Saint Garrett said:

I want to see:

Macca;

KWP Bella Salisu Perraud;

Lavia;

Elyounoussi JWP SArmstrong Edozie

Adams

Bit similar to how we setup at Leicester away. Wouldn’t bother me if Aribo, AArmstrong (wide left) or Djenepo (LB) played though, 

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Also agree with this though difficult call Baz or Willy in goal. Can't see us doing a lot in the January transfer window. BBC Gossip says we're interested in some Lorient striker, Moffi, and hopefully we'll also get in a midfielder but ultimately, it's about getting the most from our threadbare squad. Here's hoping the turnaround starts today.

[LiberalCommunist]

Man, I hope Fulham where out on the piss last night for the mas party. 

 

[davefizzy14]

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

[SotonianWill]

Is this game on TV anywhere?

[captainchris]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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Agreed,  Elyounoussi should be nowhere near this team…. 

[SotonianWill]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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I like this, though i’d go Mccarthy if fit

3-2 saints, somehow though we’ll still be dominated

[GDog07]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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That’s a team with potential to stay up - I’ll have that optimism batted out of me as soon as the 2pm line-up hits and it’s nowhere near the above and I’ll be resigned to a 3-0 walloping.

[Turkish]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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no Elyanoussi? hes brilliant when he hasnt got the ball

[egg]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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I'll get shot down, but Ely over Aribo for me. Aribo is a lazy sod and lacks quality. 

[Convict Colony]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, SotonianWill said:

Is this game on TV anywhere?

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Let me be the first to say go to this website 30-15mins before the kick off and SCROLL DOWN and it will have a billion links to different streams - i use this website every week and is where i post all sorts of links from.

https://soccerstreams100.io/event/eng-1/southampton-at-fulham-live-soccer-streams/637996

[davefizzy14]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:24, davefizzy14 said:

I would like to see:

Caballero 

KWP, Bella-Kotchap, Caleta-Car  Perraud

Lavia  JWP  S. Armstrong

Aribo  Adams  Edozie

 

2-1 to us with Prowsey and Adams scoring

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If Lavia isn't 100% fit to start then I would play AMN. 

[Convict Colony]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:38, egg said:

I'll get shot down, but Ely over Aribo for me. Aribo is a lazy sod and lacks quality. 

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Agreed based on this season so far - seems like a luxury player when we need killing machines everywhere.

[derry]

In my view if any of Elyonoussie, Djenepo, Lyanco or A Armstrong play we have little chance especially if S Armstrong and Lavia don't play. My preferred team from those that appear to be in full training.

Bazuna, KWP,Caleta Car, Salisu, Perrault; Bella-Kotcha; JWP, Lavia; S Armstrong, Edozie, Adams. It's not 3 at the back but a quick mobile defender in front of the centre backs. 4,1,2,3.  If KWP and Perrault play like they usually do our danger area is behind them so BK and Lavia could cover that and JWP help the front three. Only a thought but puts our current available best players on the field at the same time but pie in the sky. It isn't going to happen. I'm expecting another Brighton clusterfuck selection.

Edited 31 December, 2022 by derry

[derry]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:41, derry said:

In my view if any of Elyonoussie, Djenepo, Lyanco or A Armstrong play we have little chance especially if S Armstrong and Lavia don't play. My preferred team from those that appear to be in full training.

Bazuna, KWP,Caleta Car, Salisu, Perrault; Bella-Kotcha; JWP, Lavia; S Armstrong, Edozie, Adams. It's not 3 at the back but a quick mobile defender in front of the centre backs. 4,1,2,3.  If KWP and Perrault play like they usually do our danger area is behind them so BK and Lavia could cover that and JWP help the front three. Only a thought but puts our current available best players on the field at the same time but pie in the sky. It isn't going to happen. I'm expecting another Brighton clusterfuck selection.

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[skintsaint]

3-1 Win. Fulham ain't all that. About time we showed up.

[ElTrinidad]

Heres mine for today lads:

              BAZZA

   AMN-ABK-SALI-KWP

               LAVIA

           JWP-STEWIE

DJENEPO-ADAMS-EDOZIE

 

∼Will be sat in fulham end so if we get smashed at least i can pretend to look happy

I do think saints have the quality in the squad to beat Fulham, Lavia being fit is a huge factor though!

 

[saintant]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:46, skintsaint said:

3-1 Win. Fulham ain't all that. About time we showed up.

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Get great odds for that mainly because it has zero chance of happening 🙂

[Sarisbury Saint]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:38, egg said:

I'll get shot down, but Ely over Aribo for me. Aribo is a lazy sod and lacks quality. 

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Ely is a slow sod that lacks quality.

Neither are than great, but Airibo just edges it for me because of his physical attributes.

[macca155]

Well here we go, nicely set up in a Putney pub. Brought Lady Macca to the football today, these are desperate times so desperate measures required. Hopefully bring some luck.

Costing me a fortune in G&Ts

[AlexLaw76]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:25, macca155 said:

Well here we go, nicely set up in a Putney pub. Brought Lady Macca to the football today, these are desperate times so desperate measures required. Hopefully bring some luck.

Costing me a fortune in G&Ts

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🤣

It is a nice part of London to be fair

[macca155]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:26, AlexLaw76 said:

🤣

It is a nice part of London to be fair

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Lovely place. Coat and Badge pub, going to be tough to leave here.

[egg]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:11, Sarisbury Saint said:

Ely is a slow sod that lacks quality.

Neither are than great, but Airibo just edges it for me because of his physical attributes.

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Ely is the better footballer of the two. That's not praise of Ely, but a reflection of how poor Aribo is. For me, we need players who'll give 100%, and Aribo is not one of those players. 

[SotonianWill]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:46, egg said:

Ely is the better footballer of the two. That's not praise of Ely, but a reflection of how poor Aribo is. For me, we need players who'll give 100%, and Aribo is not one of those players. 

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The problem is Ely gives 100% to get the ball back only to give it away 20 seconds later. both are rubbish, but i’d go for aribo this game just for a change. 

[egg]

  On 31/12/2022 at 11:41, derry said:

In my view if any of Elyonoussie, Djenepo, Lyanco or A Armstrong play we have little chance especially if S Armstrong and Lavia don't play. My preferred team from those that appear to be in full training.

Bazuna, KWP,Caleta Car, Salisu, Perrault; Bella-Kotcha; JWP, Lavia; S Armstrong, Edozie, Adams. It's not 3 at the back but a quick mobile defender in front of the centre backs. 4,1,2,3.  If KWP and Perrault play like they usually do our danger area is behind them so BK and Lavia could cover that and JWP help the front three. Only a thought but puts our current available best players on the field at the same time but pie in the sky. It isn't going to happen. I'm expecting another Brighton clusterfuck selection.

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First It was Lyanco I'm the midfield, we've now got calls for ABK in there. It'll be Caballero next. 

[egg]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:49, SotonianWill said:

The problem is Ely gives 100% to get the ball back only to give it away 20 seconds later. both are rubbish, but i’d go for aribo this game just for a change. 

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In truth, it's who we see as the lesser of evils mate! I just hope we don't start with a CB pair of Lyanco and Salisu again. For some reason I think there'll be a proper curveball today - one or more of the kids starting. 

[SotonianWill]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:55, egg said:

In truth, it's who we see as the lesser of evils mate! I just hope we don't start with a CB pair of Lyanco and Salisu again. For some reason I think there'll be a proper curveball today - one or more of the kids starting. 

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yes, I think they’ll be a young player at maybe LB? Jones seemed quite pissed off with Perraud last game taking him off early. 

[gammon cheeks]

Aribo up front with Adams .....just a hunch .

[SotonianWill]

  On 31/12/2022 at 13:07, gammon cheeks said:

Aribo up front with Adams .....just a hunch .

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We do need someone to drop into the space between midfield and attack. it’s like no man’s land in there for us.

[Chez]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:55, egg said:

In truth, it's who we see as the lesser of evils mate! I just hope we don't start with a CB pair of Lyanco and Salisu again. For some reason I think there'll be a proper curveball today - one or more of the kids starting. 

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Lyanco with a battle cry on twitter. Does he always do that on match day or does it indicate that he may start.

Who you thinking, Ballard, JJ or Larios?

[Miltonaggro]

  On 27/12/2022 at 18:25, Turkish said:

We need Glasgow saints famous momentum curve.

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Momentum trough! 

[egg]

  On 31/12/2022 at 13:16, Chez said:

Lyanco with a battle cry on twitter. Does he always do that on match day or does it indicate that he may start.

Who you thinking, Ballard, JJ or Larios?

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Neither. Possibly Payne at right back, shifting KWP to the left. Wouldn't surprise me if Turner or Finnigan came out of nowhere either. Not based on anything, just a feeling that he'll try to freshen things up somehow. 

[derry]

  On 31/12/2022 at 12:49, egg said:

First It was Lyanco I'm the midfield, we've now got calls for ABK in there. It'll be Caballero next. 

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I'm not proposing that as a solution, what I am proposing is to try and combat Fulham's form advantage by making us, an out of form team more solid. Aribo and the other four won't do that. BK isn't in as a holding midfielder he's a defender defending just in front of the two centrbacks.What would help to make us better defensively is stop Perrault and KWP making Kamikaze runs and presenting two bloody great areas that every team in the land are exploiting and the midfield not covering. Maybe play a defensive back four and don't expose the centrebacks. KWP was to some degree at fault in all three Brighton goals. Playing a compact five in midfield might also do it.. Three centre backs doesn't work with the present players so I'm ignoring it.

[Guest]

Lumping a bit of money on over three goals here. Probably not that many cards as our players don’t have any real fight. 😅

[Yorkshire Saint]

Surprise selection incoming....

[Wsaint]

  On 31/12/2022 at 13:55, Yorkshire Saint said:

Surprise selection incoming....

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Shit I best find my boots quick. 

[Convict Colony]

[Sunglasses Ron]

I actually like the look of that (well, as much as I can given current circumstances).

[Convict Colony]

Perraud dropped completely (or is he injured), looks like 5 at the back, midfield looks like a student at a freshers fair, lightweight.

[egg]

Back 3, or Lyanco in the middle as some were calling for?

Finnigan being involved doesn't surprise me. The kid is decent. 

[SotonianWill]

  On 31/12/2022 at 14:00, Convict Colony said:

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so who’s in midfield ffs, not lyanco, not lyanco, not lyanco

[Miltonaggro]

  On 31/12/2022 at 14:00, Convict Colony said:

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Going for the clean sheet in the drizzle above all else. Fair play. 

[Saint_clark]

Not sure I believe it's three at the back with one CM. I know Moi plays CM for Norway (and looks good there) but would we suddenly be using him there out of the blue? More likely that AMN is CM.