Saint Garrett Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Just now, Valesaint said: The only positive about Jones is that he came cheap. He is not up to the job, hands up and go. Please! Not that cheap! Cost £5m to hire him & staff, plus wages and payoff if he gets sacked. Bad enough we’ve already spent the summers transfer budget, let alone having to pay a load more money out for another change of manager. If we sack him and hire someone else, I can’t see it being a manager currently in work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 His arrogance is absolutely on the scale of unprofessional. He publicly treats his players like cr*p and the football he has served only highlights his deep set vanity and narcissism. Get rid of this liability. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJakko Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 The only way I can see saints improving in anyway under a managers helm is with this joke gone. Nathan Jones is not competent enough to be a Premier League manager. His tactics, way he has built a bond with the fans.. just everything has built a tenure of negativity. I have never disliked a manager quite like this.. Our board need to do the honourable thing and sack him. Replacement wise I actually think anything would be an improvement. Although I feel we’ve wasted far too much time already, and we are almost definitely going down, we need to start changing things as soon as possible. We still have a slight chance if we act quickly. If a tree has rot, you cut it down and plant a new one.. otherwise it spreads and takes everything down with it. Basic stuff. Fuck off Nathan you arrogant prick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Not that cheap! Cost £5m to hire him & staff, plus wages and payoff if he gets sacked. Bad enough we’ve already spent the summers transfer budget, let alone having to pay a load more money out for another change of manager. If we sack him and hire someone else, I can’t see it being a manager currently in work! What an absolute shambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Not that cheap! Cost £5m to hire him & staff, plus wages and payoff if he gets sacked. Bad enough we’ve already spent the summers transfer budget, let alone having to pay a load more money out for another change of manager. If we sack him and hire someone else, I can’t see it being a manager currently in work! Such a strange decision from SR to spend over £40m on deadline day for them to be managed by someone so inept. Did they really think we'd see a dramatic change in fortune by spending money on two players? Rasmus needs to admit he's made an absolute fuck up appointing Jones and I can't see that happening unless Dragan sanctions it. Dyche was available as well.. What an absolute mess of a club we've become. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, SaintJakko said: Our board need to do the honourable thing and sack him. Replacement wise I actually think anything would be an improvement. Although I feel we’ve wasted far too much time already, and we are almost definitely going down, we need to start changing things as soon as possible. We still have a slight chance if we act quickly. Steady, this feels kind of like how we got here in the first place... 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDog07 Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 I’m sure many laughed and baulked at the idea of Sean Dyche as our replacement for Ralph. At least he’d have restored some fight in our group of players, we’re sinking without any trace with Jones, there’s just no way we’re out of the bottom three for the rest of this season, that’s us done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Was actually starting to think we might sack him after saint garretts post earlier. Obviously not 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, GDog07 said: I’m sure many laughed and baulked at the idea of Sean Dyche as our replacement for Ralph. At least he’d have restored some fight in our group of players, we’re sinking without any trace with Jones, there’s just no way we’re out of the bottom three for the rest of this season, that’s us done. I wouldn’t. I like Dyche. He might not be fashionable but he’s a decent guy and talks a lot of sense. His two podcasts he did with Jake Humphrey are very good 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 At what point do Sport Republic think "enough is enough"? 1 win in 7 so far. Do they give him until 1 win in 10? Do they think "we'll stick by him even if we finish bottom with 20 points" When does this shitshow end? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Surely 4 hours is long enough to drive back from West London and give him his P45 ? 😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Next Premier League manager to get sacked (via Sky Bet) Gary O'Neil - 9/4 David Moyes - 11/4 Jurgen Klopp - 9/2 Jesse Marsch - 6/1 Antonio Conte - 10/1 Brendan Rodgers - 10/1 Graham Potter - 10/1 20/1 bar Odds correct at 1945 GMT (04/02/23) The Clueless Welsh Muppet not even making the top 7. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said: Surely 4 hours is long enough to drive back from West London and give him his P45 ? 😇 He’d probably want a flat back P5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said: Surely 4 hours is long enough to drive back from West London and give him his P45 ? 😇 I’d have made the chippy little sod find his own way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Next Premier League manager to get sacked (via Sky Bet) Gary O'Neil - 9/4 David Moyes - 11/4 Jurgen Klopp - 9/2 Jesse Marsch - 6/1 Antonio Conte - 10/1 Brendan Rodgers - 10/1 Graham Potter - 10/1 20/1 bar Odds correct at 1945 GMT (04/02/23) The Clueless Welsh Muppet not even making the top 7. WTF? Fourth favourite on Betfair at 15/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 35 minutes ago, Colinjb said: His arrogance is absolutely on the scale of unprofessional. He publicly treats his players like cr*p and the football he has served only highlights his deep set vanity and narcissism. Get rid of this liability. Eh? He said today were crap because he’s taken too much notice of other people. If he did it his way then things would be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: Eh? He said today were crap because he’s taken too much notice of other people. If he did it his way then things would be different Yet he still stubbornly started the game with five at the back. A formation that just doesn't work but does fit with his preference.. We start badly, then he adapts and we look better. Mind you, in his interview he was all over the place. Edited 4 February, 2023 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Benitez is rumoured to be replacing Moyes. Moyes for us, anyone? Could we lure Thomas Frank possibly (long shot). Benitez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Just now, Colinjb said: Yet he still stubbornly started the game with five at the back. A formation that just doesn't work. Five at the back can’t be his doing, That must be those he’s listening too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDobbo Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 4th fav at 11/2 on Sky Bet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sfcphilc said: At what point do Sport Republic think "enough is enough"? 1 win in 7 so far. Do they give him until 1 win in 10? Do they think "we'll stick by him even if we finish bottom with 20 points" When does this shitshow end? It ends when SR turn up on a Saturday and find the ground is empty. Staying away is the only way they'll get the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Five at the back can’t be his doing, That must be those he’s listening too The gods do work in mysterious ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Five at the back can’t be his doing, That must be those he’s listening too The same formation that was forced upon Ralph in pre season and promptly dumped as soon as possible. Somebody within the club is pushing this formation and they need to fuck off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: Five at the back can’t be his doing, That must be those he’s listening too Peter Sutcliffe used the same excuse. No sentient person believed that either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJakko Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 54 minutes ago, stevegrant said: Steady, this feels kind of like how we got here in the first place... Haha exactly, that must have been the philosophy the board were going by to employ him. But seriously my opinion on Nathan Jones’ competency is that low, that anything is an improvement on him (not that we should do that by any means, looking at you Sport Republic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 23 minutes ago, DT said: Benitez is rumoured to be replacing Moyes. Moyes for us, anyone? Could we lure Thomas Frank possibly (long shot). Benitez? Would take Benitez, Moyes or Frank in a heartbeat. Saying that, others on my list of 'People I'd be Happy To Replace Nathan With' are Postman Pat, Baldrick, Harold Shipman and the Predator, so it's not exactly an exclusive club tbh. 2 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Well at least he’s united the fanbase for the first time in a while. He’d probably try to claim credit for that. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 I didn’t realise until just now we’ve only scored one league goal from open play on his 7 league matches. Everything is worse now than when Ralph was here 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 20 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said: Would take Benitez, Moyes or Frank in a heartbeat. Saying that, others on my list of 'People I'd be Happy To Replace Nathan With' are Postman Pat, Baldrick, Harold Shipman and the Predator, so it's not exactly an exclusive club tbh. Can’t see any of them wanting it. Benitez won’t want another relegation on his CV plus he likes control of transfers which he wont get with genius Ankersen in charge. if Moyes is sacked he’ll probably want a break for a bit and no way would Frank leave Brentford for us, that’s just laughable even to suggest it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Can’t see any of them wanting it. Benitez won’t want another relegation on his CV plus he likes control of transfers which he wont get with genius Ankersen in charge. if Moyes is sacked he’ll probably want a break for a bit and no way would Frank leave Brentford for us, that’s just laughable even to suggest it. I’m so desperate now I’ll suggest someone like Frank only because of his prior connections. But you’re right. He wouldn’t come. We were linked with Moyes about 100 years ago when he was at Preston I think. He would bring tactical nous and discipline. But yeah. Unlikely. Fat Sam until end of season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 24 minutes ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said: Would take Benitez, Moyes or Frank in a heartbeat. Saying that, others on my list of 'People I'd be Happy To Replace Nathan With' are Postman Pat, Baldrick, Harold Shipman and the Predator, so it's not exactly an exclusive club tbh. I’d take Postman Pat if he could deliver success. Sadly we are probably now shopping in the “Dean Smith/Chris Wilder” managerial bracket. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, DT said: I’m so desperate now I’ll suggest someone like Frank only because of his prior connections. But you’re right. He wouldn’t come. We were linked with Moyes about 100 years ago when he was at Preston I think. He would bring tactical nous and discipline. But yeah. Unlikely. Fat Sam until end of season? I’d prefer fireman Sam over this joker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 9 minutes ago, Turkish said: Everything is worse now than when Ralph was here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’d prefer fireman Sam over this joker Elvis even! 😂 Edited 4 February, 2023 by Toadhall Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 (edited) One thing is clear, reading back through this thread, 20 days is a long time in football... this page being a case in point: https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/59761-nathan-jones-out/page/41/ Edited 4 February, 2023 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Valesaint said: There is obviously some personality conflict within the squad. Jones must be asked to leave as he is not up to the job, an embarrassment in fact. A mirror of 2004/05 basically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: I’d prefer fireman Sam over this joker Steady on. He is still Welsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Steady on. He is still Welsh There not all twats with chips on their shoulders- no mining in pontpandy.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 At this rate I can see us losing to Luton in the FA Cup and Jones taking the credit for it, it really wouldn't surprise me the guy is bonkers!! 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: At this rate I can see us losing to Luton in the FA Cup and Jones taking the credit for it, it really wouldn't surprise me the guy is bonkers!! I agree he’ll probably say something about look at what it could be like if people did things my way. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 1 hour ago, RedArmy said: Somebody within the club is pushing this formation and they need to fuck off. Does that make Rasmus the number one suspect? He was "overseeing" transfers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 22 minutes ago, Turkish said: Can’t see any of them wanting it. Benitez won’t want another relegation on his CV plus he likes control of transfers which he wont get with genius Ankersen in charge. if Moyes is sacked he’ll probably want a break for a bit and no way would Frank leave Brentford for us, that’s just laughable even to suggest it. Frank was supposedly someone we were interested in before we pulled the trigger on Ralph, and yet weirdly never followed up the interest. There was supposedly a not-unreasonable release clause in his contract at the time. He has since signed a new contract with no such clause. I know Everton have been even more of a basket case than us in recent times, but his recent stint there - and the fact he's not even been linked with other jobs since - would suggest to me his methods are perhaps not quite up to the modern game anymore (which happens, almost every manager has a shelf life), and realistically he'd have got a good payoff from Everton and perhaps he's quite happy not being involved in it all anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 23 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: There not all twats with chips on their shoulders- no mining in pontpandy.😉 They're not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Rarebit still herecis he? Pull the plug SR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 3 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: We earned our way into this league. It took years. It took money from Liebherr, Cortese’s cunning and then a team spirit which took us into Europe. We have had some amazing footballers and managers at the club. We were nearly extinct but we rose like a Phoenix. And what a journey it was. But now it’s all been pissed away by Rupert Lowe mk2 who thinks he has reinvented football. And some welsh prick who thinks he’s Jose Mourinho. It’s actually disgusting. I regret calling for Ralph to go. I thought we would appoint someone of premier league quality to light a spark at the club. But I would so much rather Ralph (who was a decent bloke) be here and go down and rebuild than these ****ing charlatans Here we go again, reinventing Ralph. As pish as Jones has been, Ralph's last year was equally as shambolic. Do we need to break out the 90 out of 92 teams stat again. If Jones keeps up his 1 win in 7 record, he'll prob still better Ralph's last year in charge. We need to find somebody better than the both of them 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Of course he’s not leaving. That would be sensible and logical option now. Woefully out of his depth, nothing is ever his fault. He’ll still be here for the relegation come May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty's Caddy Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 Most pathetic set up of a team I’ve seen in a long time. clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 9 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: Here we go again, reinventing Ralph. As pish as Jones has been, Ralph's last year was equally as shambolic. Do we need to break out the 90 out of 92 teams stat again. If Jones keeps up his 1 win in 7 record, he'll prob still better Ralph's last year in charge. We need to find somebody better than the both of them The 90 out of 92 stat is pointless, we were the shittest team in the Prem over the year because once Broja downed tools we didn’t have a goalscorer at the club. Comparing our record to league 2 clubs is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Ralph Fastenbüttl said: Would take Benitez, Moyes or Frank in a heartbeat. Saying that, others on my list of 'People I'd be Happy To Replace Nathan With' are Postman Pat, Baldrick, Harold Shipman and the Predator, so it's not exactly an exclusive club tbh. Postman Pat IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 4 February, 2023 Share Posted 4 February, 2023 58 minutes ago, DT said: I’m so desperate now I’ll suggest someone like Frank only because of his prior connections. But you’re right. He wouldn’t come. We were linked with Moyes about 100 years ago when he was at Preston I think. He would bring tactical nous and discipline. But yeah. Unlikely. Fat Sam until end of season? Just no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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