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1 minute ago, SotonianWill said:

after what we gave him previously, 3 months which don’t in any way ruin his credibility as a manager for a good pay day. would he take it?

Would enhance his reputation, albeit a romantic notion. 

Unfortunately for us we are run by a bunch of muppets who will continue to throw money at any mercenary looking for a payday.


 

 

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1 minute ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

I know people say (probably correctly) the fans should not be let anywhere near the decision making process at a club but this is one occasion where the fan base, almost to a man and women, saw the writing on the wall a long time before the Board. In fact some from Day One knew the appointment to be reckless and stupid. Sports Republic have let the fans of this football club down, big time, and need to cut out the arrogance and smugness that makes them think they always know best. They - and they alone - should shoulder the total responsibility of relegation as it is or very much on their watch.

It was a strange one and smacked of the decision makers trying to be clever. Nothing about him suggested he had what it takes to be a decent premier league manager. Very basic tactics, poor player management, embarrassing in front of the media, was divisive from the start

its never nice seeing people fail and people given a chance to improve themselves but be so obviously like a fish up a tree from day one but he was. 
 

I do have a tiny bit of sympathy for him in that he was always going to take the job but he should never have got it In the first place. That sympathy is tempered with the fact that he’s earned more in 3 months than most people will in 10 years and he’ll get a massive pay off that will set him up for life. 
 

it’s all a huge mess from everyone involved 

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S-Clarke

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Great news to wake up to. I'm usually very supportive and I don't like to knee-jerk, but it was fairly obvious early on that we'd appointed a fake manager with no idea.

I'm too young for Branfoot, so for me this is now my Branfoot period. I read a lot about the dislike for that manager and I did hope I'd never get to experience similar, but sadly Jones was that. 

He never acted, looked or spoke like a top flight manager. He came into Southampton with his lower league principles and tried to implement them all over the squad, it wasn't going to work. This is a guy who had no experience of playing in a top level, let alone managing anyone other than random journeyman lower league players. The decision to appoint him will go down as the worst decision in our recent history. To this day I still fail to see the sense in it and from day 1 it was inventible this day would happen.

Not getting the results is bad enough, but the way he has conducted himself in interviews is a sackable offence in it's self. He has a heightened opinion of himself where any criticism is swiped away by snappy snipes back, whether that be at players, supporters, the media or the club. He was a horrible little man who managed to unite everyone for the wrong reasons.

I fail to believe that he had any respect from the playing squad. If he has managed to become this disliked by an entire City then I can't imagine he is universally liked on the training pitch - this feels like a dark cloud has been lifted and hopefully, 'god willing', we have now hit the bottom of our latest decline and can start to look forward again with some hope. Fans need hope, even if you're 20 points adrift, but Jones gave us no hope.

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Thank goodness for that, I really can't think of a worse appointment that Ankersen could have made last November - Jones was his man pure and simple, and judgement was inept and appalling.  Time for the club to regain some self-respect in terms of our remaining fixtures and commence planning for next season.  Whether we look to hold the fort with Selles until the summer or bring someone new it will lift the club after Nathan Jones.  I think we will see a more reasoned long term choice (Lage?) or an old head to see out remaining fixtures, but the club now have to get this absolutely right - the fans are owed that at least.    

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Give it to Gallardo in the absence of better options.

 

1. Proven record all be it in a lesser competitive league.

2. Available thus cheaper to 'get', to employ and thus fuck off at the end of the season if he's terrible

3. He's Argie, therefore by extension a world cup winner-ish

4. He's got a cool foreign name.

5. Alacaraz will love it.

6. From the 5 mins YouTube clip I've seen of Plat3 , thus making me an expert of South American football, they play great football.

 

Also whilst we're all giving each other reach arounds for seeing that Jones was an abysmal appointment from the start, I'll add my onion in here too from that fateful day... He was and is proven to be The Guido Carillo appointment I predicted. So all roads lead to Argentina

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It was a strange one and smacked of the decision makers trying to be clever. Nothing about him suggested he had what it takes to be a decent premier league manager. Very basic tactics, poor player management, embarrassing in front of the media, was divisive from the start

its never nice seeing people fail and people given a chance to improve themselves but be so obviously like a fish up a tree from day one but he was. 
 

I do have a tiny bit of sympathy for him in that he was always going to take the job but he should never have got it In the first place. That sympathy is tempered with the fact that he’s earned more in 3 months than most people will in 10 years and he’ll get a massive pay off that will set him up for life. 
 

it’s all a huge mess from everyone involved 

The Peter Principle 

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5 minutes ago, DT said:

Gerard favourite in the betting, ahead of…Dean Smith. Bruce not on list on Paddy Power

Whilst Gerrard would be way down my personal list of preferred candidates, I feel he would probably gain instant respect from the players and unite the dressing room, at least in the short term. So, he *could* turn out to be a decent option in the circumstances...

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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Whilst Gerrard would be way down my personal list of preferred candidates, I feel he would probably gain instant respect from the players and unite the dressing room, at least in the short term. So, he *could* turn out to be a decent option in the circumstances...

Michael Beale was the brains behind his success at Rangers and Aston Villa. When he left in the summer, that's when Villa went downhill.

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I’d vote for anyone with a bit of tactical nous on how to stop leaking goals in the short term and wait to offer everything to Potter. Fanciful and won’t happen but can dream. I was keen on Sean Dyche all season long. As we cocked up there, Fat Sam might have to be the only option a club in our position can get for now. A Hirsch will not cut it. Suppose a Gerrard might just work but big risk. They might do the Selles thing

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Think we need someone who is prepared to use a pyrrhic relegation battle to get to know and develop the squad ahead of a genuine promotion push next season (assuming we don't stay up) - they have to have relegation built into their contract.

Who? Well assuming we won't pay compensation to anyone, and assuming the likes of Poch, AVB etc. are completely for the birds, there's a few good names available:

  • Gerardo Seoane
  • Gollardo (assuming he doesn't go to Leeds)
  • Jess Thorup (my personal shout)
  • Bruno Lage
  • maybe even Marsch?

We have a good team, Man City in the cup and the first half yesterday showed that, we just need someone who can use the assets we have much more effectively, consistency and sensibly then Jones did.

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6 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Michael Beale was the brains behind his success at Rangers and Aston Villa. When he left in the summer, that's when Villa went downhill.

Ah, fair enough. Probably best if I stop thinking out loud in that case :)

P.s. where's this Michael Beale fella now...?

edit: just realised he's Rangers manager... Maybe reunite the two of them here then... ? :)

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16 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Relegation is far from a certainty. There is a team of 11 players in this squad that could keep us up playing the right type of football. 

 

 

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McCarthy in goal and Bella Kotcha for DCC. Either way there’s no hiding place for the players now. It’s time for them to step up.

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Cannot believe some on here are writing off rest of season and just looking at Championship already.   No matter how crap it has been we are still ONLY FOUR POINTS OFF SAFETY FFS!!!!!

Added to that we still have games against Bournemouth, Leeds and Wet Spam.  If you went to those teams’ fans and asked them how confident they are you would not hear much positivity.

We may needs as few as six wins, seven almost certainly would do it, and those other teams will also struggle to see where five or six wins come from too.  So yes it’s very tough, but absolutely not at the stage to write off yet.

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2 hours ago, revolution saint said:

From what I recall the three names in the frame when we sacked Jones were Marsch, Jones and Steve Cooper so Marsch wouldn't be surprising. 

Whoever takes over is on a hiding to nothing now - I can't see anyone decent and in a job wanting to come here, and I can't see anyone decent and not in a job wanting to come here either.

Marsch wouldn't be a particularly inspiring appointment and I'm sort of getting fed up with teams that have pressing as their hallmark.  I'd quite like a manager who focussed on playing football a bit as well but beggars can't be choosers and all that. 

Marsch...what you mean the guy who Leeds have just sacked because he got them into relegation trouble? Would make perfect sense in Ankersen's weird world so could well happen.

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Out of curiosity, and wondering how left-field Sport Republic may go with their next appointment, I looked up who the manager of Man City's U23/Development squad is, expecting to see someone with an expansive pedigree, but turns out it's this fella: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Barry-Murphy

Now, I've no idea about his credentials but how does someone whose managerial career is a two year stint at Rochdale end up in charge of arguably the best academy players in the country? 

Suffice to say, I assume we can rule out poaching someone from Man City's development set-up on this occasion...

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1 minute ago, Forester said:

Cannot believe some on here are writing off rest of season and just looking at Championship already.   No matter how crap it has been we are still ONLY FOUR POINTS OFF SAFETY FFS!!!!!

Added to that we still have games against Bournemouth, Leeds and Wet Spam.  If you went to those teams’ fans and asked them how confident they are you would not hear much positivity.

We may needs as few as six wins, seven almost certainly would do it, and those other teams will also struggle to see where five or six wins come from too.  So yes it’s very tough, but absolutely not at the stage to write off yet.

We are to Fulham, as they were to us.

Their fans looking at the table, worried that we're going to catch them and drag them into a relegation battle.

Let the chase begin......

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3 minutes ago, DT said:

In terms of timing, no-one knows when this was done. Announced now, sure, but quite possible that he was indeed sacked straight after the game, as some reports indicated. 

No doubt certain Twitter accounts will be claiming as much... 

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