Badger Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Half hour of his press conference in case not previously posted. A bit of explaining and back tracking on last weekends display, which is of his own making of course, but other than that he handles it fairly well I thought. Doesn't explain the results though of course, which he has to put right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 6 hours ago, Colin Saint said: It's on the youtube clip I posted above. 6 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Did he actually say that? I've seen that thrown around and I'm assuming it's just a parody of him, he can't have actually said that...could he? I know it's fashionable to critiscise the bloke for everything, but I don't see anything wrong in his throwaway comment. Had Clough ,Ferguson, or of course 'Arry said it about their early life and women in the area they grew up in it would be lauded as 'good humour'. There are several things to critiscise his time in charge for without looking to crucify him at every opportunity. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Badger said: It's on the youtube clip I posted above. I know it's fashionable to critiscise the bloke for everything, but I don't see anything wrong in his throwaway comment. Had Clough ,Ferguson, or of course 'Arry said it about their early life and women in the area they grew up in it would be lauded as 'good humour'. There are several things to critiscise his time in charge for without looking to crucify him at every opportunity. I thought it was quite funny. He does love to go on about being from a Welsh mining village though, it like how can you tell when someone is from Yorkshire? they’ve already told you. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Badger said: It's on the youtube clip I posted above. I know it's fashionable to critiscise the bloke for everything, but I don't see anything wrong in his throwaway comment. Had Clough ,Ferguson, or of course 'Arry said it about their early life and women in the area they grew up in it would be lauded as 'good humour'. There are several things to critiscise his time in charge for without looking to crucify him at every opportunity. And if he was winning every week we'd be loving it and praising him for his banter. The press conference had some cringe in it but largely he handled it as well as could be expected. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Interesting comments from someone quite closely connected to the club… so the reason as to why caleta -car was dropped was due to the fact that he intervened between a bust up between selles and jones last week. This week JWP had a significant disagreement with jones on the training ground… these are rumours but I’ve no reason to doubt where I heard them. If true the training ground must be a lively place to be. But not sure a manager can stay if true. Perhaps jones comments about doing it his way relate to selles and that fact that SR perhaps are more trusting of selles judgement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 28 minutes ago, Turkish said: Not only is he one of the best managers in Europe he’s also the fittest man who ever lived. What a guy! He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done? 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 16 minutes ago, madge said: Interesting comments from someone quite closely connected to the club… so the reason as to why caleta -car was dropped was due to the fact that he intervened between a bust up between selles and jones last week. This week JWP had a significant disagreement with jones on the training ground… these are rumours but I’ve no reason to doubt where I heard them. If true the training ground must be a lively place to be. But not sure a manager can stay if true. Perhaps jones comments about doing it his way relate to selles and that fact that SR perhaps are more trusting of selles judgement. So DCC gets dropped because he broke up a fight? Seems a bit odd don’t you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 I'm not a lover of Nathan Jones, Mostly from what I consider to be poor team selection and formations. Over my lifetime there have always managers that were quick with the repartee, especially the great Bill Shankly. Jones cracked a joke and laughed, so what. I'm a fan of Jethro and Max Boyce and find their Welsh and English jokes funny. The comment from Jones was a throwaway after he'd talked about if he'd not been a professional footballer. It seems to me that he has a target on his back from idiots that should know better. The way the press are trying to crucify him is disgraceful and typical of football journalism. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 30 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: So DCC gets dropped because he broke up a fight? Seems a bit odd don’t you think? Even odder is is the head boy having a row with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 39 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: So DCC gets dropped because he broke up a fight? Seems a bit odd don’t you think? Jones is a bit odd, don't you think? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayGirl Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Saturday 5pm He`s GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 10 February, 2023 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said: Saturday 5pm He`s GONE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said: Saturday 5pm He`s GONE God willing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 10 February, 2023 Author Share Posted 10 February, 2023 8 hours ago, SaturdayGirl said: The club must have a plan for 5pm Saturday , I wonder who they have been talking to in the last few days to run the club to the end of the season ? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said: Saturday 5pm He`s GONE With the greatest respect, he won't be. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 46 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: So DCC gets dropped because he broke up a fight? Seems a bit odd don’t you think? Yeah it’s bizarre, but I have absolutely no reason to doubt or question what I was told. Unless jones didn’t want the fight broken up, perhaps dcc became a bit heavy handed.. who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 They're probably pissed at him because he grabbed their handbags and that finished the scuffle. George O'Brien wasn't very big but he poleaxed 6ft Harry Harris against Newport with one of the best uppercuts I've been priviliged to see. Obviously Jones and Telles not in George's class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 1 minute ago, madge said: Yeah it’s bizarre, but I have absolutely no reason to doubt or question what I was told. Unless jones didn’t want the fight broken up, perhaps dcc became a bit heavy handed.. who knows. Too much aggression, not enough front foot? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaturdayGirl Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Another loss and we keep Nathen Jones Are we hell bent on the Championship ? No one gains from this ... crazy world .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 1 minute ago, SaturdayGirl said: Another loss and we keep Nathen Jones Are we hell bent on the Championship ? No one gains from this ... crazy world .. Rasmus does.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formationand we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 Just now, derry said: Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formation and we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, derry said: Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formationand we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. You know moaning on a message board has near to zero affect on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 17 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said: Another loss and we keep Nathen Jones Are we hell bent on the Championship ? No one gains from this ... crazy world .. 16 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Rasmus does.... Perhaps I've missed something but how does he gain if we're relegated ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 1 hour ago, madge said: Interesting comments from someone quite closely connected to the club… so the reason as to why caleta -car was dropped was due to the fact that he intervened between a bust up between selles and jones last week. This week JWP had a significant disagreement with jones on the training ground… these are rumours but I’ve no reason to doubt where I heard them. If true the training ground must be a lively place to be. But not sure a manager can stay if true. Perhaps jones comments about doing it his way relate to selles and that fact that SR perhaps are more trusting of selles judgement. This is pretty much what I was told. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 25 minutes ago, Badger said: Perhaps I've missed something but how does he gain if we're relegated ? I suspect you may well have missed the bit about Rasmus liking his managers to have failed in the past - apparently they come back stronger. Same philosophy for his football teams. By failing, we win, simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 54 minutes ago, derry said: Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formationand we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. I have to say for once I won't be able to watch or hear any of the game tomorrow as I'll be somewhere over the Indian Ocean and im glad as could do without listening or watching another shit show. All I can hope is by the time I arrive at my destination he's gone. Bored of him now 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mustang Saint said: I have to say for once I won't be able to watch or hear any of the game tomorrow as I'll be somewhere over the Indian Ocean and im glad as could do without listening or watching another shit show. All I can hope is by the time I arrive at my destination he's gone. Bored of him now I appreciate its a radical suggestion, but you could also hope that we win the game? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Why do you doubt there is? They don’t exactly play like a tight bunch of lads do they Thing is I could counter that with why do you believe they have? One poster doesn’t make it legit. But after last week and high emotions it wouldn’t be a surprise. 🤷🏻♂️ Will be interesting to see what sort of team he puts out tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 1 hour ago, derry said: Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formationand we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. If he picks thesame underperformers in weird formations as he has consistently done up to now, the game will be up in no time and the vitriol will not be canned until the final whistle. So pick a decent team with the best players available playing in their recognised positions. That is not much to ask is it. And please, can we stop picking the likes of Janny B over the replacements we bought to replace his kind of dross in the first place. When I see the line up every week I just think here we go again. Sick of it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Not only is he one of the best managers in Europe he’s also the fittest man who ever lived. What a guy! Jesus he literally is an Office character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 42 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: This is pretty much what I was told. I thought you posted that there was a 20 man brawl on the Sunday after the brentford game. Did you upgrade that comment to a bust up between NJ and selles and JWP disgreeing with the manager? Must of missed the update. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Jesus he literally is an Office character. Maybe he is the boy that can swim faster than a shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, madge said: Yeah it’s bizarre, but I have absolutely no reason to doubt or question what I was told. Unless jones didn’t want the fight broken up, perhaps dcc became a bit heavy handed.. who knows. I can only assume (quite possibly wrongly) that during the intervention DCC sided with RS, hence why Jones put arguably our best centre back in the B team. “If” that’s true then it’s a bit pathetic… Also assuming that DCC wasn’t being a plant pot about it If it’s also true that Prowsey has had a run in then I genuinely don’t see a way for NJ to stay. @Pilchards Any chance you can go back to climbing trees to spy on the training like you did years ago? 🤣 Anyway, here’s to a win tomorrow. Edited 10 February, 2023 by Raging Bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: If he picks thesame underperformers in weird formations as he has consistently done up to now, the game will be up in no time and the vitriol will not be canned until the final whistle. So pick a decent team with the best players available playing in their recognised positions. That is not much to ask is it. And please, can we stop picking the likes of Janny B over the replacements we bought to replace his kind of dross in the first place. When I see the line up every week I just think here we go again. Sick of it Five at the back including Janny B and Lyanco - it's bound to happen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 5 minutes ago, Raging Bull said: I can only assume (quite possibly wrongly) that during the intervention DCC sided with RS, hence why Jones put arguably our best centre back in the B team. “If” that’s true then it’s a bit pathetic… Also assuming that DCC wasn’t being a plant pot about it If it’s also true that Prowsey has had a run in then I genuinely don’t see a way for NJ to stay. @Pilchards Any chance you can go back to climbing trees to spy on the training like you did years ago? 🤣 Anyway, here’s to a win tomorrow. Where are these DCC run in rumours coming from? He was in the B team before the supposed scuffle. Likewise with JWP, I thought he was in support of Jones? Bloody gossip, it’s like being back at school. 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: So DCC gets dropped because he broke up a fight? Seems a bit odd don’t you think? Not really. He obviously doesn’t like any aggression. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 17 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: If he picks thesame underperformers in weird formations as he has consistently done up to now, the game will be up in no time and the vitriol will not be canned until the final whistle. So pick a decent team with the best players available playing in their recognised positions. That is not much to ask is it. And please, can we stop picking the likes of Janny B over the replacements we bought to replace his kind of dross in the first place. When I see the line up every week I just think here we go again. Sick of it How must the other defenders feel knowing that Bednarek gets brought back and chosen ahead of them every game? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 2 hours ago, derry said: Time to can the criticism and Vitriol until the final whistle tomorrow. It's time to support the team and see if we can rescue this clusterfuck of a season. If he picks the underperformers and we lose again then he deserves the reaction he'll get at the final whistle. On the other hand if he picks the new players and the best of the rest in a sensible formationand we get a result, fair play. Cheer them off. That's the nub of it - pick the best team in a decent formation (minus the likes of Bednarek, Elyounoussi, Diallo) and he'll get some goodwill. I don't think the average person cares whether he makes a joke about Welsh girls or life in a mining village. If he showed a bit of humility/self-deprecation and stopped bigging himself up about Luton days and being the fittest bloke on earth - he'd be able to wear the underdog badge with a bit of authenticity. Do that, and get a result and the thawing process will be underway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted 10 February, 2023 Share Posted 10 February, 2023 54 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Where are these DCC run in rumours coming from? He was in the B team before the supposed scuffle. Likewise with JWP, I thought he was in support of Jones? Bloody gossip, it’s like being back at school. 🤣 It's a load of bunkum, DCC hadn't trained for a few days for whatever reason and wasn't going to play last weekend, he chose to have a run out with the B team. I think he said it himself if you trawl back through the news stories 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Badger said: Perhaps I've missed something but how does he gain if we're relegated ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 I know Ralph had his faults, but did he talk about himself so incessantly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 My mate was a low level coach at Brighton when Jones was there and WhatsApped me when he was appointed our manager. Fuck me really I remember being in the gym with Nathan at Falmer when he was at BHA In fairness he was dedicated and working like a lunatic to return from injury and blew his top at Leon Knight and Kazim Richard’s for fucking about That certainly sounds like the Jones we know and the 'fuck me really' has turned out to be quite telling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 7 hours ago, Turkish said: Maybe he is the boy that can swim faster than a shark Can we start a crowd funder to see if this is true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 (edited) Jones is giving me the welsh roy keane vibes, does well with an approach in the championship and then try's to apply the aggressive personal and tactical mgmt with international players. Jones after we win today after going long ball all game and we score after a wolves OG then giving it large to the crowd. Edited 11 February, 2023 by Convict Colony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 46 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Jones is giving me the welsh roy keane vibes, does well with an approach in the championship and then try's to apply the aggressive personal and tactical mgmt with international players. Jones after we win today after going long ball all game and we score after a wolves OG then giving it large to the crowd. Without the fantastic playing career, of course. Jones is a nobody and the players know it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 At last. Nathan’s last day at Saints. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 8 hours ago, austsaint said: That's the nub of it - pick the best team in a decent formation (minus the likes of Bednarek, Elyounoussi, Diallo) and he'll get some goodwill. I don't think the average person cares whether he makes a joke about Welsh girls or life in a mining village. If he showed a bit of humility/self-deprecation and stopped bigging himself up about Luton days and being the fittest bloke on earth - he'd be able to wear the underdog badge with a bit of authenticity. Do that, and get a result and the thawing process will be underway. This sums it up for me. You can get away with being a bit of a cunt if you get performances and results. Sadly for Jones, he’s a massive cunt and the results and performances are dreadful. Hoping today is his last in employment at Saints. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 The Nathan Jones revolution starts here (possibly with Bananarama)! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 11 February, 2023 Share Posted 11 February, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jack said: This sums it up for me. You can get away with being a bit of a cunt if you get performances and results. Sadly for Jones, he’s a massive cunt and the results and performances are dreadful. Hoping today is his last in employment at Saints. As ever, it's the hope that kills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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