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Ok , now that Mary has very kindly eased the lid in public can someone persuade her to lift it completely off. Come on Mary do the decent thing and tell everything on either this website or via the echo the full story from your side. If it is honest and factual what is there to lose and anything that can tip the balance to rid us of the Lowe factor is what is called for at the moment, The gloves should be off. Mary if you read this I am a Saints supporter for 60 years and like you and your father before you hate what Lowe & Wilde are doing to this club , please help.

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Ah the very person who kicked off all the instability and helped bring Wilde to power, yet admits she didn't bother spending 5 minutes checking into his claims and credentials, is now kicking off about it again and wants to get him removed? Shouldn't she have worried a bit more about it 2 years ago when she voted Wilde in? Or during the past 2 years when the people she brought in wrecked the club's finances? Where is her own accountability? She has gone from disagreeing with Crouch and backing Wilde (like Crouch himself bizarrely), to now disagreeing with Wilde and backing Crouch. She needs to learn to think for herself and not keep joining the bandwagon - what is different now from 2 years ago, except her own actions have helped to nearly bankrupt the club?

 

She is on a different planet sometimes (assuming she's not up in the Scottish estate). Good to see she's being supportive of the team and Mark Wotte when we need it most...

 

A question for MC to Mull over before she starts up more rallies - when exactly did you withdraw your 1.4m share proxies from Wilde?

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Can anyone precis what she said?

 

"Michael Wilde is a mere puppet that doesn't even write his own programme notes"

 

She also urged supporters to join the protest march and called on Askham and Richards to stop supporting Lowe.

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Can anyone precis what she said?

 

Trying to remember as much as I can...

 

a) When asked whether she resigned as a Director, she said 'If I would have stayed a day longer after Rupert returned I would have been sacked';

 

b) Saints are a rudderless ship = Lowe is never there, doesn't have a desk at the club, now on holiday when the club needs leading;

 

c) Wilde is a puppet and never there - doesn't even write his own programme notes;

 

d) Questioned just WHO is running the club if Lowe and Wilde are not there;

 

e) Crouch has put two separate proposals to Lowe and Wilde for all 3 to work together - both rebuffed.

 

f) Askham and Richards should be ashamed for their support of Lowe;

 

g) Urges all fans to support and attend the Demo this Saturday.

 

Anyone else fill any gaps??

Posted
"Michael Wilde is a mere puppet that doesn't even write his own programme notes"

 

She also urged supporters to join the protest march and called on Askham and Richards to stop supporting Lowe.

 

Thanks

Though that's nothing new, many people have been likening him to a puppet for a long time.

Posted

Forgive me for saying so but I think her words would count for a lot more if they had not been spoken by this woman who, in footballing terms, is a complete non-entity; big enough to rival any of the non-entities associated with the club already.

 

If we are going to change the Boardroom, going back to the likes of Mary C and Co. (and I am sure she is a very nice, bright and witty lady who is as a keen a fan as anybody on here) is NOT the answer so forgive me for not grabbing my diary to attend this little stroll through town.

 

We need a complete and utter break with all that has dogged us for the last few years. Unfortunately, I do not have an answer as to HOW we do it but holding up Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Mary C, McMoneyme & Co as the answer is certainly NOT the answer.

 

See you all at Norwich tomorrow?

Posted
Ah the very person who kicked off all the instability and helped bring Wilde to power, yet admits she didn't bother spending 5 minutes checking into his claims and credentials, is now kicking off about it again and wants to get him removed? Shouldn't she have worried a bit more about it 2 years ago when she voted Wilde in? Or during the past 2 years when the people she brought in wrecked the club's finances? Where is her own accountability? She has gone from disagreeing with Crouch and backing Wilde (like Crouch himself bizarrely), to now disagreeing with Wilde and backing Crouch. She needs to learn to think for herself and not keep joining the bandwagon - what is different now from 2 years ago, except her own actions have helped to nearly bankrupt the club?

 

She is on a different planet sometimes (assuming she's not up in the Scottish estate). Good to see she's being supportive of the team and Mark Wotte when we need it most...

 

A question for MC to Mull over before she starts up more rallies - when exactly did you withdraw your 1.4m share proxies from Wilde?

You're wasting your breath Jonah.Just look at the thread about MLT asking the fans to keep behind the team and then fans are questioning his integrity.
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Sir Richard of Woolston

I am surprised at your post. Mary is a real Saints fan obviously raised being a saints fan and is dedicated to SFC. I have seen her shed tears because of the state the club is in now and would rather her chair the club than any of the muppets we have on board at present. She is sincere, genuine and caring and about time a woman was given a chance to run this club as she surely could do a better job.

See you all at Norwich tomorrow?

Posted
Thanks

Though that's nothing new, many people have been likening him to a puppet for a long time.

 

I did wonder if 'his' notes were written by Wilde though. They are written in the official club wordsmith's style. They probably just send him a courtesy copy for his 'signature'.

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Jan,

 

You are really agreeing with me. She has shed tears over Saints - her and thousands others. She cares passionately but we need something more than that out of a Board Member. Otherwise everybody on this forum would be eligible.

 

That pub on the river, just down road from Ground? (Assuming I get there in time)

Posted
Forgive me for saying so but I think her words would count for a lot more if they had not been spoken by this woman who, in footballing terms, is a complete non-entity; big enough to rival any of the non-entities associated with the club already.

 

If we are going to change the Boardroom, going back to the likes of Mary C and Co. (and I am sure she is a very nice, bright and witty lady who is as a keen a fan as anybody on here) is NOT the answer so forgive me for not grabbing my diary to attend this little stroll through town.

 

We need a complete and utter break with all that has dogged us for the last few years. Unfortunately, I do not have an answer as to HOW we do it but holding up Lowe, Wilde, Crouch, Mary C, McMoneyme & Co as the answer is certainly NOT the answer.

 

See you all at Norwich tomorrow?

 

Ok .

Posted
Ah the very person who kicked off all the instability and helped bring Wilde to power, yet admits she didn't bother spending 5 minutes checking into his claims and credentials, is now kicking off about it again and wants to get him removed? Shouldn't she have worried a bit more about it 2 years ago when she voted Wilde in? Or during the past 2 years when the people she brought in wrecked the club's finances? Where is her own accountability? She has gone from disagreeing with Crouch and backing Wilde (like Crouch himself bizarrely), to now disagreeing with Wilde and backing Crouch. She needs to learn to think for herself and not keep joining the bandwagon - what is different now from 2 years ago, except her own actions have helped to nearly bankrupt the club?

 

She is on a different planet sometimes (assuming she's not up in the Scottish estate). Good to see she's being supportive of the team and Mark Wotte when we need it most...

 

A question for MC to Mull over before she starts up more rallies - when exactly did you withdraw your 1.4m share proxies from Wilde?

 

In the interests of balance, I eagerly await your diatribe against Lowe and the damage that he has done to the club over the past decade, with special focus on the club's parlous situation since his return in league with the Quisling who you disparage in your comments above. I don't see you holding him to account for anything, although that is possibly because you have selective amnesia.

Posted
shame she didnt open her mouth when lowe was allowed back in.

 

She did send a letter to michael wilde asking for him to stop getting into bed with lowe. I think it was april. But what the hell could she have done then? She was in the same boat as crouch and when wilde sided with lowe they didnt have any power, so thats not right mate.

Sir richard you say that we need rid of crocuh, corbett, lawrie but they havent done anything wrong. They are the good guys and I would love them to be incharge again. What did crouch do wrong? Appoint pearson who kept us up and is 9 points clear with leicester, work 5 days a week for nothing and pay for the statue on his own. Lowe works 1.5 days aweek if lucky. I would love to see mary back on the board, she cares deeply.

Posted
She did send a letter to michael wilde asking for him to stop getting into bed with lowe. I think it was april. But what the hell could she have done then? She was in the same boat as crouch and when wilde sided with lowe they didnt have any power, so thats not right mate.

Sir richard you say that we need rid of crocuh, corbett, lawrie but they havent done anything wrong. They are the good guys and I would love them to be incharge again. What did crouch do wrong? Appoint pearson who kept us up and is 9 points clear with leicester, work 5 days a week for nothing and pay for the statue on his own. Lowe works 1.5 days aweek if lucky. I would love to see mary back on the board, she cares deeply.

Did LM work 5 days for nothing.Roger you need to understand all the people at the top need to go, lock stock and barrel. let them get a s/t and sit with the fans and get what we feel week in week out
Posted

Without an analysis of the facts about rights and wrongs I for one would much prefer to see Corbett and Crouch back on the board for the simple reason that they have a much better understanding of the views of the majority of SFC fans.

Posted
. let them get a s/t and sit with the fans and get what we feel week in week out

 

Think your find that Crouch does that, at all the away games and has seen Saints away from home more times this season, then both current chairman and one is on the payroll !!

Posted
"Michael Wilde is a mere puppet that doesn't even write his own programme notes"

 

She also urged supporters to join the protest march and called on Askham and Richards to stop supporting Lowe.

 

Obama doesn't write his owns speeches, so what? Remember, Crouch's alarming claims in his programme notes this time last year? Some of the nuggets from memory were 'we are financially secure and don't need to release players' Rasiak and Skacel did not got out on Loan at the 11th hour then and Crouch proverbially did not hide behind Hoos whilst he delivered the somewhat surprising news. Then we had Crouch's rhetoric about still aiming for the playoffs when even in January most sane fans knew we were fighting for survival. Crouch also told us how Dodd and Gorman despite all the applicants were the best pairing to take the team forward - no financial concerns there then and then we pluck Pearson from obscurity who most would have thought a bizarre appointment until you considered his connections.

 

I'm with Jonah on this and I would like to hear from Mrs Corbett exactly what was her contribution as a non-executive director and how did she use her role to postively influence the direction of this club. It's the likes of Corbett and McMenemy who IMO lazily ride on their past connections with the club as their own personal meal ticket as oppose to actually contribute to its success and development. They both need to change their tune but like those who love to latch onto to their words 'of encouragement' they only have one tuneless and monotonous drum and one stick with which to beat it.

 

Corbett seems to be under the misunderstanding she has some kind of hereditary right to her position because of what her father did for the club. The problem is with proper hereditary honours comes responsibility and desire to protect and grow the dynasty not winge and kneejerk publicly from one solution to another to curry favour with the vocal minority. IMO respect and position is earned in my opinion and the likes of Corbett, McMenemy, Crouch and Trant especiallya s a group of ineffectives lost mine long ago and have simply been outplayed and are now acting as bad losers. Should have taken a leaf out of Bobby Charlton's book on how to act as an ambassador and director of the club you hold dear. Mud slinging in public is best avioded if you actually want to influence the path of direction. If Crouch as a fan is the best person to take this club forward then I can think of many intelligent and erudite fans capable of doing teh job better than Crouch they just don't have their own businesses and trappings to show off their success. Nonetheless, they are still very good business people who have simply had a successful career as an employee. Fan status is not a credential in the top 10 attributes required to run the club and even then its only a nice to have.

 

If having read Wotte's words on the OS today, fans are still intent on the demostration they like Corbett are in grave danger of deservedly reaping what they sow and I don't actually think you have any idea what you are demostrating against or what your solution will be if in the unlikely event it is successful. Seriously, god save us all if any of the crew in position last January are reappointed, bumbling rhetoric and fan friendly policies to silence the vocal minority to kid themslevs you have unity will be a disaster in line with the falls of Wimbledon and Aldershot in recent memory. Some of you won't even live to see the club return. Good luck.

Posted

Ahhh..so Rupert saves the day eh?

 

You are so predictable.

 

Last time I looked we were 2nd from Bottom.

 

And then his plans come to fruition - Admin and a Cheap Buyback.

 

Wotte doesn't want the job, nor should he have it.

 

BTW, no need to protect Lowe so much, it's Wilde, Askham, Richards etc that we are concentrating efforts on.

 

If Rupert wants to stay he can put some money in can't he???? Go off and ask him and Wilde if they will....

 

IF YOU CAN FIND THEM.

Posted
Obama doesn't write his owns speeches, so what? Remember, Crouch's alarming claims in his programme notes this time last year? Some of the nuggets from memory were 'we are financially secure and don't need to release players' Rasiak and Skacel did not got out on Loan at the 11th hour then and Crouch proverbially did not hide behind Hoos whilst he delivered the somewhat surprising news. Then we had Crouch's rhetoric about still aiming for the playoffs when even in January most sane fans knew we were fighting for survival. Crouch also told us how Dodd and Gorman despite all the applicants were the best pairing to take the team forward - no financial concerns there then and then we pluck Pearson from obscurity who most would have thought a bizarre appointment until you considered his connections.

 

I'm with Jonah on this and I would like to hear from Mrs Corbett exactly what was her contribution as a non-executive director and how did she use her role to postively influence the direction of this club. It's the likes of Corbett and McMenemy who IMO lazily ride on their past connections with the club as their own personal meal ticket as oppose to actually contribute to its success and development. They both need to change their tune but like those who love to latch onto to their words 'of encouragement' they only have one tuneless and monotonous drum and one stick with which to beat it.

 

Corbett seems to be under the misunderstanding she has some kind of hereditary right to her position because of what her father did for the club. The problem is with proper hereditary honours comes responsibility and desire to protect and grow the dynasty not winge and kneejerk publicly from one solution to another to curry favour with the vocal minority. IMO respect and position is earned in my opinion and the likes of Corbett, McMenemy, Crouch and Trant especiallya s a group of ineffectives lost mine long ago and have simply been outplayed and are now acting as bad losers. Should have taken a leaf out of Bobby Charlton's book on how to act as an ambassador and director of the club you hold dear. Mud slinging in public is best avioded if you actually want to influence the path of direction. If Crouch as a fan is the best person to take this club forward then I can think of many intelligent and erudite fans capable of doing teh job better than Crouch they just don't have their own businesses and trappings to show off their success. Nonetheless, they are still very good business people who have simply had a successful career as an employee. Fan status is not a credential in the top 10 attributes required to run the club and even then its only a nice to have.

 

If having read Wotte's words on the OS today, fans are still intent on the demostration they like Corbett are in grave danger of deservedly reaping what they sow and I don't actually think you have any idea what you are demostrating against or what your solution will be if in the unlikely event it is successful. Seriously, god save us all if any of the crew in position last January are reappointed, bumbling rhetoric and fan friendly policies to silence the vocal minority to kid themslevs you have unity will be a disaster in line with the falls of Wimbledon and Aldershot in recent memory. Some of you won't even live to see the club return. Good luck.

 

For one, wasn't it Corbett that had been flying across Europe chasing potential investement? Was it Lowe et al that beat off the bid from the now owners of Coventry, who, and I may be wrong, are in a far more financially stable position than ourselves?

Posted
Nineteen Canteen is my hero. :rolleyes::smt005:smt057

 

Nineteen Canteen sounds suspiciously like a plant to me. Wouldn't be surprised at all, from that lengthy statement just made

Posted
Nineteen Canteen sounds suspiciously like a plant to me. Wouldn't be surprised at all, from that lengthy statement just made

 

He only gets three posts a day, he has to make the most of them.

Posted
For one, wasn't it Corbett that had been flying across Europe chasing potential investement?
i think you will find that was because the investment had been allegedly naused by the reticence boardmembers to embrace their approach.
Posted
She did send a letter to michael wilde asking for him to stop getting into bed with lowe. I think it was april. But what the hell could she have done then? She was in the same boat as crouch and when wilde sided with lowe they didnt have any power, so thats not right mate.

Sir richard you say that we need rid of crocuh, corbett, lawrie but they havent done anything wrong. They are the good guys and I would love them to be incharge again. What did crouch do wrong? Appoint pearson who kept us up and is 9 points clear with leicester, work 5 days a week for nothing and pay for the statue on his own. Lowe works 1.5 days aweek if lucky. I would love to see mary back on the board, she cares deeply.

 

i care for the club just as much,if not more than corbett and if i was in her position i would have spoken up and told the fans exactly what was going on behind the scenes when lowe came back.

at a time when we needed somebody to speak up corbett,lawrie mac and the rest remained silent.

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will be a disaster in line with the falls of Wimbledon and Aldershot in recent memory. Some of you won't even live to see the club return. Good luck.
those words are so true and it hurts to see them writen.Im glad you have kept on posting here.I do not agree with all you say but much I can see.

You of course will get the full wrath of many but that comes with the territory.I do hope you decide to keep the moral high ground and do not hit back with insults and petty nastiness in your future jousts with the many posters on here.Some are reasoned some should be sectioned (Im not sure which category I fall in!!)

Posted
The board members appointed by Wilde?
No, people who have long term family connections with the club and also 1 of the newer ones,all allegedly of course
Posted
i care for the club just as much,if not more than corbett and if i was in her position i would have spoken up and told the fans exactly what was going on behind the scenes when lowe came back.

at a time when we needed somebody to speak up corbett,lawrie mac and the rest remained silent.

I think we need the whole bunch gone.LC and AC are the only ones I could stomach longterm
Posted
No, people who have long term family connections with the club and also 1 of the newer ones,all allegedly of course

 

Didn't Lowe and Wilde present a reasoned justification of why the SISU bid should be rejected? Can one assume that if that bid had been accepted in hindsight - and we only have to look at Coventry - we would be more financially secure?

Posted
Obama doesn't write his owns speeches, so what? Remember, Crouch's alarming claims in his programme notes this time last year? Some of the nuggets from memory were 'we are financially secure and don't need to release players' Rasiak and Skacel did not got out on Loan at the 11th hour then and Crouch proverbially did not hide behind Hoos whilst he delivered the somewhat surprising news. Then we had Crouch's rhetoric about still aiming for the playoffs when even in January most sane fans knew we were fighting for survival. Crouch also told us how Dodd and Gorman despite all the applicants were the best pairing to take the team forward - no financial concerns there then and then we pluck Pearson from obscurity who most would have thought a bizarre appointment until you considered his connections.

 

I'm with Jonah on this and I would like to hear from Mrs Corbett exactly what was her contribution as a non-executive director and how did she use her role to postively influence the direction of this club. It's the likes of Corbett and McMenemy who IMO lazily ride on their past connections with the club as their own personal meal ticket as oppose to actually contribute to its success and development. They both need to change their tune but like those who love to latch onto to their words 'of encouragement' they only have one tuneless and monotonous drum and one stick with which to beat it.

 

Corbett seems to be under the misunderstanding she has some kind of hereditary right to her position because of what her father did for the club. The problem is with proper hereditary honours comes responsibility and desire to protect and grow the dynasty not winge and kneejerk publicly from one solution to another to curry favour with the vocal minority. IMO respect and position is earned in my opinion and the likes of Corbett, McMenemy, Crouch and Trant especiallya s a group of ineffectives lost mine long ago and have simply been outplayed and are now acting as bad losers. Should have taken a leaf out of Bobby Charlton's book on how to act as an ambassador and director of the club you hold dear. Mud slinging in public is best avioded if you actually want to influence the path of direction. If Crouch as a fan is the best person to take this club forward then I can think of many intelligent and erudite fans capable of doing teh job better than Crouch they just don't have their own businesses and trappings to show off their success. Nonetheless, they are still very good business people who have simply had a successful career as an employee. Fan status is not a credential in the top 10 attributes required to run the club and even then its only a nice to have.

 

If having read Wotte's words on the OS today, fans are still intent on the demostration they like Corbett are in grave danger of deservedly reaping what they sow and I don't actually think you have any idea what you are demostrating against or what your solution will be if in the unlikely event it is successful. Seriously, god save us all if any of the crew in position last January are reappointed, bumbling rhetoric and fan friendly policies to silence the vocal minority to kid themslevs you have unity will be a disaster in line with the falls of Wimbledon and Aldershot in recent memory. Some of you won't even live to see the club return. Good luck.

 

surely you've got to check that ip address:-)

Posted
Obama doesn't write his owns speeches, so what? Remember, Crouch's alarming claims in his programme notes this time last year? Some of the nuggets from memory were 'we are financially secure and don't need to release players' Rasiak and Skacel did not got out on Loan at the 11th hour then and Crouch proverbially did not hide behind Hoos whilst he delivered the somewhat surprising news. Then we had Crouch's rhetoric about still aiming for the playoffs when even in January most sane fans knew we were fighting for survival. Crouch also told us how Dodd and Gorman despite all the applicants were the best pairing to take the team forward - no financial concerns there then and then we pluck Pearson from obscurity who most would have thought a bizarre appointment until you considered his connections.

 

I'm with Jonah on this and I would like to hear from Mrs Corbett exactly what was her contribution as a non-executive director and how did she use her role to postively influence the direction of this club. It's the likes of Corbett and McMenemy who IMO lazily ride on their past connections with the club as their own personal meal ticket as oppose to actually contribute to its success and development. They both need to change their tune but like those who love to latch onto to their words 'of encouragement' they only have one tuneless and monotonous drum and one stick with which to beat it.

 

Corbett seems to be under the misunderstanding she has some kind of hereditary right to her position because of what her father did for the club. The problem is with proper hereditary honours comes responsibility and desire to protect and grow the dynasty not winge and kneejerk publicly from one solution to another to curry favour with the vocal minority. IMO respect and position is earned in my opinion and the likes of Corbett, McMenemy, Crouch and Trant especiallya s a group of ineffectives lost mine long ago and have simply been outplayed and are now acting as bad losers. Should have taken a leaf out of Bobby Charlton's book on how to act as an ambassador and director of the club you hold dear. Mud slinging in public is best avioded if you actually want to influence the path of direction. If Crouch as a fan is the best person to take this club forward then I can think of many intelligent and erudite fans capable of doing teh job better than Crouch they just don't have their own businesses and trappings to show off their success. Nonetheless, they are still very good business people who have simply had a successful career as an employee. Fan status is not a credential in the top 10 attributes required to run the club and even then its only a nice to have.

 

If having read Wotte's words on the OS today, fans are still intent on the demostration they like Corbett are in grave danger of deservedly reaping what they sow and I don't actually think you have any idea what you are demostrating against or what your solution will be if in the unlikely event it is successful. Seriously, god save us all if any of the crew in position last January are reappointed, bumbling rhetoric and fan friendly policies to silence the vocal minority to kid themslevs you have unity will be a disaster in line with the falls of Wimbledon and Aldershot in recent memory. Some of you won't even live to see the club return. Good luck.

 

So you are happy with current regime who currently has the club second from bottom, virtually in administration and constantly hoping that the current team will magically become better?

Posted

Dear Mary Corbett,

 

Can you give us your version of events regarding the Paul Allen interest,

because their have been allegations that you were one of those who were creating a stumbling block.

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

Posted
its old sunburnt breast in another guise.

 

Was SB banned, or did he just 'go away'?

 

Edit: Oh yeah he was banned wasn't he. This is clearly him under a new name.

Posted
Dear Mary Corbett,

 

Can you give us your version of events regarding the Paul Allen interest,

because their have been allegations that you were one of those who were creating a stumbling block.

 

Regards,

 

 

Mike

 

Again I maybe wrong but didnt MC chase Paul Allen around the world to meet with him? Was this not discussed at the AGM?

Posted
In the interests of balance, I eagerly await your diatribe against Lowe and the damage that he has done to the club over the past decade, with special focus on the club's parlous situation since his return in league with the Quisling who you disparage in your comments above. I don't see you holding him to account for anything, although that is possibly because you have selective amnesia.

 

It's not amnesia, it's the fact that where blame is appropriate (as opposed to the 90% which is just petty name calling) I think it should be based up fact and not stuff you've just made up.

 

Lowe has made plenty of mistakes and the last big issue I had with him was about Wigley's appointment. That contributed to the relegation, but I still place Redknapp way way above him on the list of responsibility there. I'm sure there were some others, but not many outside of the "lunatic fringe" category really - stadium, stability, Cup Final, Europe. So yes, mistakes were made 4 years ago. Now let's try looking at the present shall we?

 

The current financial situation was brought about my those in charge over the last 2 years. Lowe wasn't one of them. Corbett, McMenemy and Crouch were. If you think Lowe should be turfed out now for what he did 4 years ago, isn't it rather hypocritical not to castigate those who have caused far more damage to the club far more recently?

 

As far as I'm aware Cowen is paid £25k and Lowe nothing (happy to be corrected). Let's not forget McMenemy was one of those taking the cash as we racked up the debts, £75k to be an "ambassador"?! Not bad for someone who has gotten through managers faster than Lowe. And Crouch who continually states he will make a "significant financial contribution" without putting in a penny (to the club), and acts like a demented schoolkid at the club's AGM when he should have shown some contrition for the mess that occurred under his watch (thanks for Gorman and Dodd!).

 

They all have their faults, let's try to criticise for real ones - what is RL's crime since relegation?

Posted

Rupert Lowe is so widely disliked, that the club won't be able to move on until he goes. He is so detached from the supporters that they have no respect for him.

Posted
They all have their faults, let's try to criticise for real ones - what is RL's crime since relegation?

 

 

The fundementally flawed experiment that will see us relegated again. Oh and as things haven't worked out with a 3rd division dutch coach, he replaces him with............................ You couldnt make it up.

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