Nathan Jones

[beatlesaint]

2 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

What an appalling way to run a training session none of our players looked impressed by the bellicose nonsense spewing out of Jones' mouth. Impossible to love a manager who acts like a 3rd grade Sunday league bully boy. This one size fits all shouting match will achieve nothing at this level. Worst of all he comes across as a thick back street lout.

 

Bloody hell 😏

[DT]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Initially i liked the look of what he was after in that video. However, after re-watching it, t doesn't look like a single player in the video is actually listening to him, Lyanco and Diallo actually look bored / rather unimpressed when he is speaking, and i don't think there was any meaningful of the smiles/enjoyment he was trying to encourage in them? Possibly a concern - But equally its hard to gauge much from a short clip and hopefully that's reading too much into it - probably just the media team selecting only certain kinds of shots. Bound to be a few players who don't suit the new manager, ditto some that will offer exactly what's he's after... I guess we will find out whether we get the required changes/improvements over the next few weeks at any rate! 

What has been mildly concerning me is that in most of the photos I've seen of the manager addressing the players, many of them are doing the double tea-pot. Which always looks like the message isn't being quite bought, or the audience is at least sceptical. Adam Armstrong seems a particular exponent. But as you say, difficult to say with snapshots.

[hypochondriac]

I think what I liked is that he was clear about what he wanted from them. Under Ralph near the end it didn't look like we knew what was required of us. 

[revolution saint]

Quite liked the video but doesn't really tell us too much.  One of the things I'm looking forward and hoping for is that we'll have a bit more of an idea of what to do when we have the ball.  It often seemed that RH was all about the press and that was fundamental but it didn't appear that there was as much consideration to what happened once we'd won the ball back.

It's only a general impression but it seemed at times as if the plan was to win the ball back and then hope for the best. 

[Whitey Grandad]

20 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I think what I liked is that he was clear about what he wanted from them. Under Ralph near the end it didn't look like we knew what was required of us. 

I don’t think that Ralph himself knew.

[Charlie Wayman]

23 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

do you find it weird when he calls players by their full names? It’s like he’s a fan that’s won a competition to train with them and he’s starstruck 

Very odd indeed and not necessarily a mark of respect. ("I'm looking at you Stuart Armstrong"!) Bit like naming and shaming?

What happened to Stuey? All those unimpressed faces speak volumes especially Lyanco & Diallo. 

[Nordic Saint]

23 hours ago, Saint86 said:

Initially i liked the look of what he was after in that video. However, after re-watching it, t doesn't look like a single player in the video is actually listening to him, Lyanco and Diallo actually look bored / rather unimpressed when he is speaking, and i don't think there was any meaningful sign of the smiles/enjoyment he was trying to encourage in them? Possibly a concern - But equally its hard to gauge much from a short clip and hopefully that's reading too much into it - probably just the media team selecting only certain kinds of shots. Bound to be a few players who don't suit the new manager, ditto some that will offer exactly what's he's after... I guess we will find out whether we get the required changes/improvements over the next few weeks at any rate! 

It will be a problem if the new manager doesn't suit any of the players. When they look at his background and especially what happened at the only biggish club he's managed so far, Stoke, they're bound to be a bit sceptical at first. He's going to have to win them over by winning games. It's lucky he's got a very easy run of fixtures to start with. If we don't win some of them, I can't see him lasting much longer than his countryman Mark Hughes did.

[ally_uk]

Well that was a cringe video 🤣

I get the same vibe where is the urgency and enthusiasm from our players ? They look like they have s##t the bed body language wise.... 

[Miltonaggro]

On 16/12/2022 at 11:32, Saint86 said:

Initially i liked the look of what he was after in that video. However, after re-watching it, t doesn't look like a single player in the video is actually listening to him, Lyanco and Diallo actually look bored / rather unimpressed when he is speaking, and i don't think there was any meaningful sign of the smiles/enjoyment he was trying to encourage in them? Possibly a concern - But equally its hard to gauge much from a short clip and hopefully that's reading too much into it - probably just the media team selecting only certain kinds of shots. Bound to be a few players who don't suit the new manager, ditto some that will offer exactly what's he's after... I guess we will find out whether we get the required changes/improvements over the next few weeks at any rate! 

All seems very retro and sports teacher with a whistle to be honest - the voice would probably be enough for me to put in a transfer request.  Appointing Nathan Jones feels a bit like our last Jones, Dave, to me.  Clarence wasn't the worst we've had but all very Stockport lower league methodology and muck and bullets, albeit with the luxury of a couple of stellar individual wizards like Le Tissier and Pahars, but NJ has nowt like that at his disposal here.  Dave Jones tenure was 25 years ago, and I too don't think that the 'we are all in this together' approach is going to work in the top flight in 2022, certainly not with this squad.  Ultimately I'm a Saints supporter and I hope this is a Ramus masterstroke and proof is in the pudding, so of course it's going to be all about results over the coming weeks in judging whether the players buy in.  If they fail to do so, given the incredibly benevolent fixture list and window, we are toast chaps. 

[bangkoksaint]

The Lincoln and Brighton games are incredibly important for him. I can’t help but wonder if he loses both of those as to whether we may have another Sturrock type scenario on our hands. FWIW I really hope he works out and I think if he doesn’t then it won’t be for the want of trying on his part. The players have to play their part too (no pun intended). If they have a defeatist and ‘sod you’ attitude towards him then it’s only going to end one way.

[MarkSFC]

I'm just pleased that Nathan Jones and the players will be far more positive and confident in their abilities than the fan base seems to be!!

 

Our fears and negative experiences are judging him far more negatively than is fair. Give the man a chance (at least until the end of January🤣)to show how he wants us to play and to sign a couple. 

 

I'm looking forward to it and quietly confident we will do ok. My Leeds mate still owes me 10 pints from last seasons bet and zive just gone double or quits with him on us being higher than them!! Suppose I could win and we still go down🤣

Roll on Tuesday!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ted Bates Statue]

4 hours ago, bangkoksaint said:

The Lincoln and Brighton games are incredibly important for him. I can’t help but wonder if he loses both of those as to whether we may have another Sturrock type scenario on our hands. FWIW I really hope he works out and I think if he doesn’t then it won’t be for the want of trying on his part. The players have to play their part too (no pun intended). If they have a defeatist and ‘sod you’ attitude towards him then it’s only going to end one way.

At least Sturrock won games. I would be more worried about the Wigley type, whom all the players love despite losing to everyone except Pompey.

[The Kraken]

Just watched the training video for the first time, it’s noticeable how little the players actually seem to be listening to him, and there’s certainly not any sort of repartee going on.

I noticed in the Liverpool game, in a break of play after just a few minutes Jones was on the touchline giving detailed instructions to Elmo, so he’s clearly a coach who talks a lot and gets his ideas across quickly. We’ll just have to see how good those ideas are. Our players have got no right whatsoever to think they’re above anything, so they need to buy into it either way.

[niceandfriendly]

Really not sure why the club thought it was a good idea to post that video, unless someone in the social media team is trying to sabotage things. 
 

Surely they’d want to show our new manager in a positive light, where he’s displaying some kind of leadership qualities, inspiration or to show he has a certain aura about him. That they chose to show a clip where he displays none of the above is a concern. 

Edited 17 December, 2022 by niceandfriendly

[SaintZamboni]

10 minutes ago, niceandfriendly said:

Really not sure why the club thought it was a good idea to post that video, unless someone in the social media team is trying to sabotage things. 
 

Surely they’d want to show our new manager in a positive light, where he’s displaying some kind of leadership qualities, inspiration or to show he has a certain aura about him. That they chose to show a clip where he displays none of the above is a concern. 

I think that’s a matter of opinion. He’s clearly getting across a couple of points, get the ball forward (penetrate), do it quickly and fucking well enjoy yourselves! 
I really don’t see why people are so negative on here. Every coach has their own style and people learn in different ways. Suggesting that someone isn’t engaged because of your interpretation of their body language is absurdly simplistic.

[stevy777_x]

46 minutes ago, SaintZamboni said:

I think that’s a matter of opinion. He’s clearly getting across a couple of points, get the ball forward (penetrate), do it quickly and fucking well enjoy yourselves! 
I really don’t see why people are so negative on here. Every coach has their own style and people learn in different ways. Suggesting that someone isn’t engaged because of your interpretation of their body language is absurdly simplistic.

This is dinosaur talk.

Something old cronies Sam Allerdyce, Mark Hughes would say.

Players probably don’t feel that he adds anything hence the body language.

 

[Ex Lion Tamer]

7 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

All seems very retro and sports teacher with a whistle to be honest - the voice would probably be enough for me to put in a transfer request.  Appointing Nathan Jones feels a bit like our last Jones, Dave, to me.  Clarence wasn't the worst we've had but all very Stockport lower league methodology and muck and bullets, albeit with the luxury of a couple of stellar individual wizards like Le Tissier and Pahars, but NJ has nowt like that at his disposal here.  Dave Jones tenure was 25 years ago, and I too don't think that the 'we are all in this together' approach is going to work in the top flight in 2022, certainly not with this squad.  Ultimately I'm a Saints supporter and I hope this is a Ramus masterstroke and proof is in the pudding, so of course it's going to be all about results over the coming weeks in judging whether the players buy in.  If they fail to do so, given the incredibly benevolent fixture list and window, we are toast chaps. 

Eddie Howe is enjoying his whistle in the Newcastle training video too.

People are reading way too much into this video

[StrangelyBrown]

11 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Eddie Howe is enjoying his whistle in the Newcastle training video too.

People are reading way too much into this video

Agreed. While I get why people are underwhelmed by his appointment I find it bizarre that some people are desperately looking for any opportunity to criticise him.

What I do find odd is why the club have decided to put this video out there?  Seems ill judged to me.

Edited 18 December, 2022 by StrangelyBrown

[saintant]

To me he has clearly identified that he is dealing with a passive group with little or no leadership qualities and no talkers. That is not what he wants so he's trying to generate something out of nothing. I doubt many would disagree that the group is far too passive and not passionate enough. Whether the players buy into this remains to be seen but the passive approach was not working so good on him for trying to drum up a response.

[woodsaint1]

3 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

This is dinosaur talk.

Something old cronies Sam Allerdyce, Mark Hughes would say.

Players probably don’t feel that he adds anything hence the body language.

 

What a whopper of an assumption that is. Are you a body language expert?

[captainchris]

On 16/12/2022 at 12:37, DT said:

What has been mildly concerning me is that in most of the photos I've seen of the manager addressing the players, many of them are doing the double tea-pot. Which always looks like the message isn't being quite bought, or the audience is at least sceptical. Adam Armstrong seems a particular exponent. But as you say, difficult to say with snapshots.

Adam Armstrong …… Who is so way out of his depth in the premier league that he would drown in a two inch puddle!!!! Hardly relevant is it…. 

[captainchris]

13 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Very odd indeed and not necessarily a mark of respect. ("I'm looking at you Stuart Armstrong"!) Bit like naming and shaming?

What happened to Stuey? All those unimpressed faces speak volumes especially Lyanco & Diallo. 

After what Ralph dished up which was utter garbage it’s hardly fair even to compare such made up imagination concerning identification of players in training.

[captainchris]

4 hours ago, stevy777_x said:

This is dinosaur talk.

Something old cronies Sam Allerdyce, Mark Hughes would say.

Players probably don’t feel that he adds anything hence the body language.

 

Utter crap ! Grow a pair !

[Saintscummer]

22 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Very odd indeed and not necessarily a mark of respect. ("I'm looking at you Stuart Armstrong"!) Bit like naming and shaming?

What happened to Stuey? All those unimpressed faces speak volumes especially Lyanco & Diallo. 

Personally, I think this is what the team needs. Ie, calling out. Diallo has no right imo to be anything other than compliant to what the Manager says or instructs. The teams form for the last 12 months has been horrendous and I mean truly horrendous. They don’t have any right to any teapot stance or attitude problem. I suggest they get on board as they say. I also think the same applies to the fans. 
 

its a relegation scrap and like we did for many years at the Dell, the fans will need to support and get behind the team. Let’s make a load of noise at SMS and get behind NJ and the team. They will need it. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

[Saint86]

43 minutes ago, Saintscummer said:

The teams form for the last 12 months has been horrendous and I mean truly horrendous. They don’t have any right to any teapot stance or attitude problem. I suggest they get on board as they say. I also think the same applies to the fans. 
 

its a relegation scrap and like we did for many years at the Dell, the fans will need to support and get behind the team. Let’s make a load of noise at SMS and get behind NJ and the team. They will need it. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't have to be a relegation scrap though. Or didn't have to be at any rate.

We were 13th for xG and joint 15th for goals conceded when Ralph was sacked. That's despite having to gell a young inexperienced team, and with significant injuries to 4 of our best players in KWP, ABK, Lavia, Tino.

The reason we are where we are, is because we were 18th for goals scored. I'd say the promotion /adkins prem team carried more attacking threat at the start of our return season that this lot (Lallana, lambert, jayrod). I can't be the only one who's Immediatley bite someone's arm off to have those #3 (previously only championship players) in our side now?

We never replaced ings fully, and then we never even replaced broja 😂. It's beyond shocking on a recruitment front. And I think it's fair to say that adding a quality attacker would also have improved our xG stats as well. 

The issue now is that Jones has got to perform better than Ralph with much the same players (albeit without the same injuries) just to keep us up, which I don't think is a given because I think (or the stats indicate) Ralph was actually doing alright with the players that were actually available. We just badly had to sign an attacker in the summer, and we have been unlucky with injures this year.

I want Jones to do well and I'll back anyone that tries as long as they're trying and carry a threat (assume we all will). But I also think he's up against it, and the body language in that video (albeit it's only a snap shot) is slightly concerning. If the players don't listen/respect him for these early games, we're going down. 

Edited 18 December, 2022 by Saint86

[Toon Saint]

12 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

It doesn't have to be a relegation scrap though. Or didn't have to be at any rate.

We were 13th for xG and joint 15th for goals conceded when Ralph was sacked. That's despite having to gell a young inexperienced team, and with significant injuries to 4 of our best players in KWP, ABK, Lavia, Tino.

The reason we are where we are, is because we were 18th for goals scored. I'd say the promotion /adkins prem team carried more attacking threat at the start of our return season that this lot (Lallana, lambert, jayrod). I can't be the only one who's Immediatley bite someone's arm off to have those #3 (previously only championship players) in our side now?

We never replaced ings fully, and then we never even replaced broja 😂. It's beyond shocking on a recruitment front. And I think it's fair to say that adding a quality attacker would also have improved our xG stats as well. 

The issue now is that Jones has got to perform better than Ralph with much the same players (albeit without the same injuries) just to keep us up, which I don't think is a given because I think (or the stats indicate) Ralph was actually doing alright with the players that were actually available. We just badly had to sign an attacker in the summer, and we have been unlucky with injures this year.

I want Jones to do well and I'll back anyone that tries as long as they're trying and carry a threat (assume we all will). But I also think he's up against it, and the body language in that video (albeit it's only a snap shot) is slightly concerning. If the players don't listen/respect him for these early games, we're going down. 

Pretty much agree with all of this. SR have to carry the can for not sorting a striker in the summer - it was a position we were glaringly short of options in. They really let Ralph down there and they need to be everything to fix that by 1 Jan - no excuses.
 

Jones seems a decent guy, but not really read anything to suggest he’s got a clear tactical identity that would inspire a new crop of PL players (in the same way someone like de Zerbi might). He seems like someone who is easily agitated too and not sure how that will transmit to players if we have a couple of bad results in the restart. 

[SotonianWill]

21 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

albeit with the luxury of a couple of stellar individual wizards like Le Tissier and Pahars, but NJ has nowt like that at his disposal here.

You don’t agree with the suggestion from some of our more obtuse fans that JWP is the second coming of Le Tissier then 

[SotonianWill]

58 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

It doesn't have to be a relegation scrap though. Or didn't have to be at any rate.

We were 13th for xG and joint 15th for goals conceded when Ralph was sacked. That's despite having to gell a young inexperienced team, and with significant injuries to 4 of our best players in KWP, ABK, Lavia, Tino.

The reason we are where we are, is because we were 18th for goals scored. I'd say the promotion /adkins prem team carried more attacking threat at the start of our return season that this lot (Lallana, lambert, jayrod). I can't be the only one who's Immediatley bite someone's arm off to have those #3 (previously only championship players) in our side now?

We never replaced ings fully, and then we never even replaced broja 😂. It's beyond shocking on a recruitment front. And I think it's fair to say that adding a quality attacker would also have improved our xG stats as well. 

The issue now is that Jones has got to perform better than Ralph with much the same players (albeit without the same injuries) just to keep us up, which I don't think is a given because I think (or the stats indicate) Ralph was actually doing alright with the players that were actually available. We just badly had to sign an attacker in the summer, and we have been unlucky with injures this year.

I want Jones to do well and I'll back anyone that tries as long as they're trying and carry a threat (assume we all will). But I also think he's up against it, and the body language in that video (albeit it's only a snap shot) is slightly concerning. If the players don't listen/respect him for these early games, we're going down. 

You lost me at XG

[Charlie Wayman]

12 hours ago, captainchris said:

After what Ralph dished up which was utter garbage it’s hardly fair even to compare such made up imagination concerning identification of players in training.

What you need to remember is that this group of players are de facto Ralph's choices and are used to a rather more intelligent and friendly way of running things, Jones is hardly a charmer despite his earlier claims that his Luton players loved him. He comes across in the videos that we have seen so far as rather cold and detached. Where is the passion that might stimulate positive reactions from players that are yet to be convinced. If I had a bloke barking orders at me without explanation like he seems to do, I'd tell him to do one.

[Charlie Wayman]

3 hours ago, Saintscummer said:

Personally, I think this is what the team needs. Ie, calling out. Diallo has no right imo to be anything other than compliant to what the Manager says or instructs. The teams form for the last 12 months has been horrendous and I mean truly horrendous. They don’t have any right to any teapot stance or attitude problem. I suggest they get on board as they say. I also think the same applies to the fans. 
 

its a relegation scrap and like we did for many years at the Dell, the fans will need to support and get behind the team. Let’s make a load of noise at SMS and get behind NJ and the team. They will need it. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

There is a lot of common sense in what you say about player's attitudes but some of them will be eyeing the exit at the mere sniff of relegation especially those with little time left on their contracts and others who feel that they are destined for better things.

Fans will always be loyal and back the team through thick and thin but how many of the current groups of players will be that bothered if we stay up or go down? 

Jones must get his relationship with the players right very quickly to keep everyone on board and we must hope that we see more signs of empathy and bonding than has been the case so far.

Edited 18 December, 2022 by Charlie Wayman

[Turkish]

4 hours ago, Saintscummer said:

Personally, I think this is what the team needs. Ie, calling out. Diallo has no right imo to be anything other than compliant to what the Manager says or instructs. The teams form for the last 12 months has been horrendous and I mean truly horrendous. They don’t have any right to any teapot stance or attitude problem. I suggest they get on board as they say. I also think the same applies to the fans. 
 

its a relegation scrap and like we did for many years at the Dell, the fans will need to support and get behind the team. Let’s make a load of noise at SMS and get behind NJ and the team. They will need it. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

None of them do. None of them have achieved anything in the game and they’ve all been part of some abysmal form and performances for a year. We’ve got some players with decent potential but they also haven’t achieved anything in the game yet. None of them have earnt the right to question anyone. 

[Daft Kerplunk]

2 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

You lost me at XG

For the last 150+ years, there’s only one stat that matters when it comes to forward play. That’s goals. It’s high time people remembered that.

How you go about goals is another matter but xg is about as pointless a stat as possible when it comes to the actual point of football. 

[Turkish]

23 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

For the last 150+ years, there’s only one stat that matters when it comes to forward play. That’s goals. It’s high time people remembered that.

How you go about goals is another matter but xg is about as pointless a stat as possible when it comes to the actual point of football. 

Some of the nonsense stats rolled out during the World Cup about receptions etc, I know geeks love it but only one stat matters. If football was played on spreadsheets all players would walk around with keyboards.

[coalman]

It's way too early to judge the guy. He wouldn't have been my first choice. All I've seen so far is the Liverpool game and we went from the first half I've come to expect to giving them a game in the second. If, and it's a big if, that's a sign of what is to come then it seems like a good thing. I guess I'm looking for positives after the dross we've played this year, sitting back and waiting for the other team to score.

[AlexLaw76]

Ralph was completely spent almost entirely in 2022.  Some of the football was as bad as we have seen for a very long time, and the start of the season was just bizarre.

Jones will (hopefully) add a short-term bounce, at least.

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Some of the nonsense stats rolled out during the World Cup about receptions etc, I know geeks love it but only one stat matters. If football was played on spreadsheets all players would walk around with keyboards.

For fucks sake don’t give Rasmus ideas! 

[Miltonaggro]

4 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

You don’t agree with the suggestion from some of our more obtuse fans that JWP is the second coming of Le Tissier then 

Chronologically JWP could be a result of a second coming of Le Tissier in 1994, he was running Celebration Plaza then. Didn’t get the nose or maverick streak in open play but possibly Guernsey DNA in the free kicks! 

[Harry_SFC]

19 hours ago, saintant said:

To me he has clearly identified that he is dealing with a passive group with little or no leadership qualities and no talkers. That is not what he wants so he's trying to generate something out of nothing. I doubt many would disagree that the group is far too passive and not passionate enough. Whether the players buy into this remains to be seen but the passive approach was not working so good on him for trying to drum up a response.

Totally agree with this.

[Suhari]

Lots of negative comments from 'fans' about that video.

One thing to stress though: they were working attacking drills, and he was insisting that the ball was moved really quickly.

Isn't that what we want?

[FarehamSaintJames]

Lots of negative fans on here.

Nice to see he’s been written off on the back of a two minute PR video 🤣🤦🏻‍♂️

[whiteleySaint30]

Hardly a 2 minute pr video as mentioned above. Makes him look like a less knowledgeable Ted Lasso. Even my 10 and 13 year olds were laughing.

 My lads Sunday league manager has more knowledge and motivation than this fella. 

Hope he proves me wrong but I reckon this is going to be rough ride. 

[Weston Super Saint]

38 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Lots of negative comments from 'fans' about that video.

One thing to stress though: they were working attacking drills, and he was insisting that the ball was moved really quickly.

Isn't that what we want?

Indeed. On the pitch resulting in goals and points.

I don't believe anyone has written him off just yet. I understand why so many fans are apprehensive though, given how hard it is to polish a turd...

[Wade Garrett]

Some proper wankers on here. 

[CB Fry]

48 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Hardly a 2 minute pr video as mentioned above. Makes him look like a less knowledgeable Ted Lasso. Even my 10 and 13 year olds were laughing.

 My lads Sunday league manager has more knowledge and motivation than this fella. 

Hope he proves me wrong but I reckon this is going to be rough ride. 

For someone making comments about how "knowledgeable" someone else is, you seem to be basing your opinion of Jones knowledge, ability and motivation on a two minute video.

I would venture "your lads Sunday League coach" will be taking a League One standard club into the Championship play offs any year now, right? Let us know when he does, he must be well good.

Jones might work out or he might not but I don't get why quite so many on here need to be complete twats about it. 

 

Edited 18 December, 2022 by CB Fry

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

For someone making comments about how "knowledgeable" someone else is, you seem to be basing your opinion of Jones kniwledge, ability and motivation on a two minute video.

I would venture "your lads Sunday League coach" will be taking a League One standard club into the Championship play offs any year now, right? Let us know when he does, he must be well good.

Jones might work out or he might not but I don't get why quite so many on here need to be complete twats about it. 

 

Because we’ve got a lot of complete twats on here?

[saintant]

32 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Hardly a 2 minute pr video as mentioned above. Makes him look like a less knowledgeable Ted Lasso. Even my 10 and 13 year olds were laughing.

 My lads Sunday league manager has more knowledge and motivation than this fella. 

Hope he proves me wrong but I reckon this is going to be rough ride. 

Maybe your lad's Sunday League Manager should put his CV out to a few clubs then - see what response he gets.

[Saint-Reece]

43 minutes ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Hardly a 2 minute pr video as mentioned above. Makes him look like a less knowledgeable Ted Lasso. Even my 10 and 13 year olds were laughing.

 My lads Sunday league manager has more knowledge and motivation than this fella. 

Hope he proves me wrong but I reckon this is going to be rough ride. 

have you ever had anything positive to post on this forum or are you always relentlessly miserable? 

[SotonianWill]

All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small, all things wise and wonderful, Nathan Jones made them all.

[saintscottofthenortham]

I watched this video at the time and thought how positive it was. Then I saw a stream of pissing and moaning on this thread so assumed they'd done another one.

Nope... Just the usual, looking for a negative in anything.

This guy has no hope. Genuinely. The moment he has a bad result (which is inevitable), he'll be destroyed.

What a joke our fanbase is. And we wonder why we're a tinpot club who can't sign a decent forward?

[woodsaint1]

1 hour ago, whiteleySaint30 said:

Hardly a 2 minute pr video as mentioned above. Makes him look like a less knowledgeable Ted Lasso. Even my 10 and 13 year olds were laughing.

 My lads Sunday league manager has more knowledge and motivation than this fella. 

Hope he proves me wrong but I reckon this is going to be rough ride. 

Im sure he does 🤪