What Is Happening To Our Country?

[Turkish]

[hypochondriac]

Up to 59% of British Pakistanis marry their first cousin apparently. Firstly how is this not already illegal? Secondly what the fuck is wrong with these people??? 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/marry-cousin-law-rules-illegal-b2661131.html

[rallyboy]

It depends on how hot your cousins are.

Personally, mine weren't up to much so I ventured beyond the family circle.

[trousers]

4 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

It depends on how hot your cousins are.

Personally, mine weren't up to much so I ventured beyond the family circle.

And there was me thinking it was to avoid becoming a Pompey fan...

[hypochondriac]

Anyone know if this has actually happened? Jaw dropping if so. 

[Turkish]

23 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Up to 59% of British Pakistanis marry their first cousin apparently. Firstly how is this not already illegal? Secondly what the fuck is wrong with these people??? 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/marry-cousin-law-rules-illegal-b2661131.html

didn't spend enough time in McCluskys on a thursday night, clearly.

[whelk]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Anyone know if this has actually happened? Jaw dropping if so. 

No this is not how it works. Keep your back arsed cultures you cunt

 

[whelk]

Await the proposal to legalise female genitalia mutilation. Important to keep up with 3rd world cultures after all

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Anyone know if this has actually happened? Jaw dropping if so. 

Why so “jaw dropping” if it is currently legal here and in many places around the world?

What would be “jaw dropping” if it was illegal everywhere and someone brought a bill in to make it legal here.

[whelk]

Wonder what your stance would be on incest if supported by someone other than from Islamic background?

[hypochondriac]

25 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Why so “jaw dropping” if it is currently legal here and in many places around the world?

What would be “jaw dropping” if it was illegal everywhere and someone brought a bill in to make it legal here.

Jaw dropping that someone would try to oppose making the practice illegal. What possible justification could there be for not outlawing this immediately? The fact it may be legal in some other countries is entirely irrelevant. It should also be illegal in those countries too clearly. Insane that the practice was not outlawed decades ago but then I suppose it has never been seen at the rate it is now until very recently. 

Edited 10 December, 2024 by hypochondriac

[Weston Super Saint]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

Why so “jaw dropping” if it is currently legal here and in many places around the world?

What would be “jaw dropping” if it was illegal everywhere and someone brought a bill in to make it legal here.

It's legal to have three wives in some countries.  It's legal to not allow your wife to leave the house unaccompanied in some countries, even then they have to be covered head to toe.  It's legal to marry girls as young as 12 in some countries.

Seems odd that you would trumpet what is legal in some countries as if those should be the morals we live by here.

[Turkish]

40 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

It's legal to have three wives in some countries.  It's legal to not allow your wife to leave the house unaccompanied in some countries, even then they have to be covered head to toe.  It's legal to marry girls as young as 12 in some countries.

Seems odd that you would trumpet what is legal in some countries as if those should be the morals we live by here.

hardly crimes of the century. 

[rallyboy]

Another question is why anyone looking for balanced coverage or facts would go to the political correspondent of the Daily Express?

That tubby toff's online history is nothing but a seized toilet flush that's mixing bubbling shit and mad Tufton Street gossip, then spoonfeeding this warm and lumpy effluent smoothie into the eager gaping mouths of the simplest in society.

Not a serious bringer of news, just a PR man spreading press releases from his various political paymasters.

 

 

[sadoldgit]

3 hours ago, whelk said:

Wonder what your stance would be on incest if supported by someone other than from Islamic background?

Incest is  illegal here isn’t it whereas marrying your first cousin currently  isn’t. Not sure why you feel the need to bring Islam into it but then you and hypochondriac aren’t the biggest fans of Muslims so I shouldn’t be surprised.

[whelk]

49 minutes ago, rallyboy said:

Another question is why anyone looking for balanced coverage or facts would go to the political correspondent of the Daily Express?

That tubby toff's online history is nothing but a seized toilet flush that's mixing bubbling shit and mad Tufton Street gossip, then spoonfeeding this warm and lumpy effluent smoothie into the eager gaping mouths of the simplest in society.

Not a serious bringer of news, just a PR man spreading press releases from his various political paymasters.

 

 

You do realise that he did speak against it? Express is irrelevant 

[whelk]

38 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Incest is  illegal here isn’t it whereas marrying your first cousin currently  isn’t. Not sure why you feel the need to bring Islam into it but then you and hypochondriac aren’t the biggest fans of Muslims so I shouldn’t be surprised.

So to be clear you think we should allow marrying of first cousins?

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, rallyboy said:

Another question is why anyone looking for balanced coverage or facts would go to the political correspondent of the Daily Express?

That tubby toff's online history is nothing but a seized toilet flush that's mixing bubbling shit and mad Tufton Street gossip, then spoonfeeding this warm and lumpy effluent smoothie into the eager gaping mouths of the simplest in society.

Not a serious bringer of news, just a PR man spreading press releases from his various political paymasters.

 

 

I've got no idea who it was it was just some random account on twitter, hence why I asked the question if it was true or not. Is what he said factually inaccurate? 

[The Kraken]

9 minutes ago, whelk said:

So to be clear you think we should allow marrying of first cousins?

More to the point, how much do you dislike Muslims? Is it:

a) more than how much SoOG hates Jews?

b) about the same as how much SOG hates Jews?

c) less than how much SOG hates Jews?

Important for me to understand just how much of a raging islamophobe you are, so honest answer please 👍

[hypochondriac]

51 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Incest is  illegal here isn’t it whereas marrying your first cousin currently  isn’t. Not sure why you feel the need to bring Islam into it but then you and hypochondriac aren’t the biggest fans of Muslims so I shouldn’t be surprised.

I imagine he'd bring Islam into it for this reason. I wonder if you can see a correlation? 

 

Edited 10 December, 2024 by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

17 minutes ago, whelk said:

You do realise that he did speak against it? Express is irrelevant 

I just listened to the argument of the MP urging the house not to oppose the marriage of cousins. He seems to be saying that we should instead be introducing genetic testing for cousins who want to fuck each other before they have kids. That's batshit insane... 

[whelk]

25 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

More to the point, how much do you dislike Muslims? Is it:

a) more than how much SoOG hates Jews?

b) about the same as how much SOG hates Jews?

c) less than how much SOG hates Jews?

Important for me to understand just how much of a raging islamophobe you are, so honest answer please 👍

Let’s just say when I go on holiday it is normally to spend time holed up with my militia mates in Montana. 
 

I am a ‘well documented’ Islamophobe and have even gone on record condemning ISIS and not even welcoming negotiations with them

[Turkish]

21 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I just listened to the argument of the MP urging the house not to oppose the marriage of cousins. He seems to be saying that we should instead be introducing genetic testing for cousins who want to fuck each other before they have kids. That's batshit insane... 

We live in a world where a prepubescent child can decide what gender they are, nothing is off the table.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

48 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

More to the point, how much do you dislike Muslims? Is it:

a) more than how much SoOG hates Jews?

b) about the same as how much SOG hates Jews?

c) less than how much SOG hates Jews?

Important for me to understand just how much of a raging islamophobe you are, so honest answer please 👍

Isn't the answer always going to be c)?

SOG was the poster that gave us daily installments of his anti-Semitism. Past current labour's tolerance, past the ones they got shot of. Then the ones the extreme found too extreme. Then onto citing activists only to have comments far more extreme than they were saying. Ending up going past politicians who had apologised for their use of extremist language.

All before the Hamas attack, following which we've had gems like the hostages being safer with Hamas, as well as those in the area at the time of their attack.

 

[sadoldgit]

Did anyone mention that Queen Victoria married her first cousin (jaw dropping?) or are you all too busy trying to mitigate your Islamophobia by accusing someone else of anti-Semitism?

[sadoldgit]

16 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Isn't the answer always going to be c)?

SOG was the poster that gave us daily installments of his anti-Semitism. Past current labour's tolerance, past the ones they got shot of. Then the ones the extreme found too extreme. Then onto citing activists only to have comments far more extreme than they were saying. Ending up going past politicians who had apologised for their use of extremist language.

All before the Hamas attack, following which we've had gems like the hostages being safer with Hamas, as well as those in the area at the time of their attack.

 

So you have well and truly joined their ranks. If you go back and read my post you will see that I base my comment of the hostages being safer with Hamas in that the IDF have a record of taking out their own as well as their enemy. It happened on 7th October. It happened to 3 of their own who were holding white flags at the time and a number of hostages have been killed by “friendly fire” whilst in captivity.

All you are doing is what Netanyahu does. You try and defend equally abhorrent behaviour by throwing the anti-Semitic accusation their way. This is precisely what Netanyahu is doing with the ICC and it really needs to stop. This has nothing to do with hatred of Jews and everything to do with deflection. Anyone reading these threads over the years will have seen a lot more hatred directed as Muslims because of their religious beliefs than Jews because of their religious beliefs.

My issue with Netanyahu, his government and the IDF has absolutely nothing to do with the Jewish religion per se other than where they use it to justify the genocidal actions towards the Palestinians. Carry on making yourself look like the other genocidal apologists though. As I said before, more Mrs Hudson than Holmes and Watson.

What you and a great many others do is conflate support for the Palestinians with anti-Semisim which is what many Tories did and still do whilst displaying blatant Islamophobia themselves.

I could have bet my mortgage on the usual suspects posting emojis. It speaks volumes that the same people don’t have a problem being associated with each other.

Edited 11 December, 2024 by sadoldgit
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[Turkish]

@Holmes_and_Watson welcome on board pal good to have you in the ranks 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

@Holmes_and_Watson welcome on board pal good to have you in the ranks 

Is it my turn to be considered one of some gang again? I guess it's taken a while to come round as there's a growing number of posters in it.

Even more so, since he paid his fiver. I've been seeing "You have chosen to ignore content by the Resident Racist." since around then. I was about to take it off, before seeing a particularly horrible post quoted. I can't even recall what utterly dreadful view was being being spouted that week. There's so many. It was before the faking of a racially motivated incident and well before his trivialising of child abuse.

Every week, a new cesspit dug. Last week he seemed to be trapped in an On The Buses episode too mysoginistic to air. With photographic proof no less. This joins the schedule along with the casual racist slurs from his Alf Garnett inspired episodes. This week sees the pilot of SOG's All in the Family.

[Lord Duckhunter]

2 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Did anyone mention that Queen Victoria married her first cousin (jaw dropping?)

Fuck me. I didn’t know she was a Muslim…

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Fuck me.

Sorry. I don't think we're closely related enough. 🙂

[Gloucester Saint]

9 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Sorry. I don't think we're closely related enough. 🙂

25 miles east on the M27 and you wouldn’t be saying that.

I posted this on the jokes thread a while ago and this thread reminded me of it:

A Southampton lad in his mid-20s is set up on a blind date from work with a female colleague from Portsmouth

They text and agree to meet up in Whiteley

They are getting on well, but his Dad had asked him to call him quickly to see how it was going

’I like her Dad but she says she’s a virgin’

’Son, come home now’

’Dad, why?!’

’Son, if she’s not good enough for her own family she’s not good enough for ours’

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is it my turn to be considered one of some gang again? I guess it's taken a while to come round as there's a growing number of posters in it.

Even more so, since he paid his fiver. I've been seeing "You have chosen to ignore content by the Resident Racist." since around then. I was about to take it off, before seeing a particularly horrible post quoted. I can't even recall what utterly dreadful view was being being spouted that week. There's so many. It was before the faking of a racially motivated incident and well before his trivialising of child abuse.

Every week, a new cesspit dug. Last week he seemed to be trapped in an On The Buses episode too mysoginistic to air. With photographic proof no less. This joins the schedule along with the casual racist slurs from his Alf Garnett inspired episodes. This week sees the pilot of SOG's All in the Family.

I used to enjoy your posts but you seem to have morphed into another internet forum idiot. It’s a shame.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

The same people now accusing me of being stuck in the 70’s, a racist and a fascist have spent years accusing me of being a lefty, a snowflake and woke. Only those very hard of thinking can see that you can’t have it both ways. If I were any of those things why on earth would I post against their posts? Surely I would be with them and one of the usual suspects? Or is that too hard to understand?

Edited 11 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I used to enjoy your posts but you seem to have morphed into another internet forum idiot. It’s a shame.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

or maybe it's another person who sees through your bullshit, there are now plenty of "usual suspects"

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Is it my turn to be considered one of some gang again? I guess it's taken a while to come round as there's a growing number of posters in it.

Even more so, since he paid his fiver. I've been seeing "You have chosen to ignore content by the Resident Racist." since around then. I was about to take it off, before seeing a particularly horrible post quoted. I can't even recall what utterly dreadful view was being being spouted that week. There's so many. It was before the faking of a racially motivated incident and well before his trivialising of child abuse.

Every week, a new cesspit dug. Last week he seemed to be trapped in an On The Buses episode too mysoginistic to air. With photographic proof no less. This joins the schedule along with the casual racist slurs from his Alf Garnett inspired episodes. This week sees the pilot of SOG's All in the Family.

WTF are you talking about? Since conspiracy theorist Nic started posting on here you seem to have caught his disease, but I will bite. Evidence please of misogyny.
 

Edited 11 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[east-stand-nic]

29 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

WTF are you talking about? Since conspiracy theorist Nic started posting on here you seem to have caught his disease, but I will bite. Evidence please of misogyny.
 

There you go again trolling me. You just cannot help yourself can you. 

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

I used to enjoy your posts but you seem to have morphed into another internet forum idiot. It’s a shame.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-netanyahu-antisemitism-campus-05ebd71bec931a62f58e7d5f9e93fa19

The same people now accusing me of being stuck in the 70’s, a racist and a fascist have spent years accusing me of being a lefty, a snowflake and woke. Only those very hard of thinking can see that you can’t have it both ways. If I were any of those things why on earth would I post against their posts? Surely I would be with them and one of the usual suspects? Or is that too hard to understand?

Woke people are the most racist of all so you're just wrong again. And yes, the morals of the victorians from generations ago is markedly different from today. What relevance does Victoria marrying her cousin have with someone objecting to it being banned today? Of course it should be banned. The practice is uncommon in the UK for a good reason. 

Edited 11 December, 2024 by hypochondriac

[Turkish]

On 30/07/2024 at 15:33, sadoldgit said:

Didn’t it used to be mandatory?

 

On 30/07/2024 at 15:03, Lighthouse said:

Am I still allowed to spank my secretary and then fire her once she turns thirty?

 

52 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

WTF are you talking about? Since conspiracy theorist Nic started posting on here you seem to have caught his disease, but I will bite. Evidence please of misogyny.
 

here you go.

Edited 11 December, 2024 by Turkish

[badgerx16]

4 hours ago, sadoldgit said:

Did anyone mention that Queen Victoria married her first cousin (jaw dropping?) or are you all too busy trying to mitigate your Islamophobia by accusing someone else of anti-Semitism?

Point of interest; It has been claimed that marriage to first cousins was legalised by Henry 8th so that he could marry Catherine Howard, but in fact she was the cousin of his second wife, Anne Boleyn.

Edited 11 December, 2024 by badgerx16

[sadoldgit]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

WTF are you talking about? Since conspiracy theorist Nic started posting on here you seem to have caught his disease, but I will bite. Evidence please of misogyny.
 

And while we are at it, if you are so hot on misogyny, why haven’t you bothered to pick up Duckhunter about his comments about 9 pinters down at his local ale house?

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

And while we are at it, if you are so hot on misogyny, why haven’t you bothered to pick up Duckhunter about his comments about 9 pinters down at his local ale house?

Any comment on the evidence where you described spanking your secretaries bottom as mandatory?

Dont point out the small leak in someone elses roof where there is a massive hole in yours sunshine.

Edited 11 December, 2024 by Turkish

[sadoldgit]

21 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Point of interest; It has been claimed that marriage to first cousins was legalised by Henry 8th so that he could marry Catherine Howard, but in fact she was the cousin of his second wife, Anne Boleyn.

So it has been legal here since the Middle Ages (when marrying off children was also a thing) how come it has taken so longer before we are told that we should be angry about it now in 2024?

Given that it has been legal here for so long there must be plenty of cousins who have married through the ages and are planning to get married now. If it is made illegal, will these people separate or just stay together outside of marriage? 

Edited 11 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

So it has been legal here since the Middle Ages (when marrying off children was also a thing) how come it has taken so longer before we are told that we should be angry about it now in 2024?

It hasn't been an issue until we have seen a big rise in it in recent years. It was basically unheard of a few decades ago now it is a growing problem. 

[Turkish]

36 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

And while we are at it, if you are so hot on misogyny, why haven’t you bothered to pick up Duckhunter about his comments about 9 pinters down at his local ale house?

back to playing your silly "ive got you on ignore" game are we. Not only are you everything you've said to be you're also a coward, not brave enough to respond when someone produces the evidence you demanded. Not for the first time you're running scared. How pathetic.

[sadoldgit]

If someone had asked me last week if it was legal or not I wouldn’t have had a clue. This is a bit of an eye opener.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage
 

I did hear today that there are genetic  tests that can be carried out to determine whether there would be any problems with any children produced from such a union. It seems like it is widespread in some parts of the world and has clearly not been illegal here for some time. Is it such a problem if those concerned can be assured that their children will not inherit genetic problems?

Apparently you are allowed to marry your first cousin under Judaism. Be prepared for an outburst of claims of antisemitism if it is banned here!

Edited 11 December, 2024 by sadoldgit

[aintforever]

Shagging your cousin is obviously fucking weird but is it really a big problem or are just certain posters desperately trying to find a stick to beat muslims with?

[sadoldgit]

8 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Shagging your cousin is obviously fucking weird but is it really a big problem or are just certain posters desperately trying to find a stick to beat muslims with?

Just wait until they find out that Jewish people do it too!

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Shagging your cousin is obviously fucking weird but is it really a big problem or are just certain posters desperately trying to find a stick to beat muslims with?

It's a problem for those children born with severe disabilities and a problem for the national health service that now has to deal with these people that didn't exist previously. Of course it's a problem and it's getting bigger and more significant all the time. 

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

Just wait until they find out that Jewish people do it too!

How does that make it better? The problem in this country is primarily from Africa and predominantly the Pakistani Community where first cousin marriage is absurdly high. 

[badgerx16]

According to Wikipedia, first cousin marriage is legal in Arizona and Utah, but only if both parties are over 64 or one is proven to be infertile. In Illinois this age is over 50.

[Turkish]

5 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Just wait until they find out that Jewish people do it too!

i bet you quickly googled "do Jews marry their cousins" when you found out they could gave a little punch in the air with delight and rushed back on here to share your findings.

COWARD.