TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said: It was said at the fan forum he was back in training on Tuesday. But there has not been any photo galleries of Tuesday's training. Any photo you've seen is an old one rehashed for an article. Fair, that's a little misleading of Tom Leach, since he has tweeted out two different pictures of JWP under the "JWP returns to training" tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldridge7 Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Tbf to Tom Leach he had pictures of Olufunwa training with the first team before they were released on social or in gallery. Maybe the club sends them the new photos ahead of time to use for articles etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 That’s a heavily strapped knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, northam soul said: That’s a heavily strapped knee. Damn I'm glad you said that, I was thinking "what's wrong with his skin?!" but it's just skin coloured straps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Are people still going to claim the injury is a lie and a cover-up due to transfer links? Not only would it require the club to be lying, but Ward-Prowse wearing knee protection when he doesn't need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Are people still going to claim the injury is a lie and a cover-up due to transfer links? Not only would it require the club to be lying, but Ward-Prowse wearing knee protection when he doesn't need to. They'll go quiet now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 In a way, I'm happy he has most likely had an extended break / additional recovery time - he out of everyone deserves it for playing every minute. Just hope he is sharp and match fit by Saturday. I think he will start on Saturday though, he won't want to stop his continuous streak now. I'm happy for Ralph to not give any indication either, can ruse Everton into thinking he won't start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 1 hour ago, TWar said: Damn I'm glad you said that, I was thinking "what's wrong with his skin?!" but it's just skin coloured straps! Yeah i was thinking is that a scar? Still concerning if its so heavily strapped. Doesn't make much sense to rush him back for everton imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Yeah i was thinking is that a scar? Still concerning if its so heavily strapped. Doesn't make much sense to rush him back for everton imo. The straps could just be a precaution tbh. Will trust the physios to know whats best regarding getting him back and playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, northam soul said: That’s a heavily strapped knee. Calf I would say , although there does seem to be something over his kneecap ! We saw lots of tape used in the Olympics even in the diving . I'm not sure if it does any good though . Edited 11 August, 2021 by East Kent Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 2 hours ago, northam soul said: That’s a heavily strapped knee. 2 hours ago, TWar said: Damn I'm glad you said that, I was thinking "what's wrong with his skin?!" but it's just skin coloured straps! 1 hour ago, Baird of the land said: Yeah i was thinking is that a scar? Still concerning if its so heavily strapped. Doesn't make much sense to rush him back for everton imo. 1 hour ago, TWar said: The straps could just be a precaution tbh. Will trust the physios to know whats best regarding getting him back and playing. 13 minutes ago, East Kent Saint said: Calf I would say , although there does seem to be something over his kneecap ! We saw lots of tape used in the Olympics even in the diving . I'm not sure if it does any good though . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Looks like kinesiology tape. Physios love a bit of that. When I used to do a bit of running and saw a physio, he’d be keen for me to use plenty of that tape if I had any ongoing niggles. Can be a right bugger to get off, mind, especially with body hair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 (edited) Tottenham and Aston Villa are preparing moves for Southampton midfielder James Ward-Prowse after the Premier League season starts this weekend. Both are set to test Southampton’s resolve to keep their captain after losing Danny Ings and Jannik Vestergaard being targeted by clubs in the final weeks of the transfer window. Ward-Prowse, 26, was targeted by Villa earlier in the summer before they turned their attention to forwards to cover for the loss of Jack Grealish, with Leon Bailey and Ings joining Emi Buendia as summer arrivals. He remains their No.1 target to bolster Dean Smith’s midfield, while Spurs also have the England international on their radar. Mauricio Pochettino wanted Ward-Prowse during his time at Spurs and he remains highly rated at the club. Ward-Prowse played in every Premier League game last season and scored eight goals, with his set-piece delivery one of Southampton’s biggest attacking weapons. It earned him a place in England’s provisional squad of the European Championships before he was dropped from the final 26. Southampton chief executive Martin Semmens has vowed to keep Ward-Prowse at the club and sees him as an important player for the future. Villa midfielder Marvelous Nakamba, 27, has been monitored by Watford and Everton. They would stand to make a profit on the £11 million paid to Club Brugges two years ago should they choose to cash in. Edited 11 August, 2021 by SuperSAINT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 5 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Tottenham and Aston Villa are preparing moves for Southampton midfielder James Ward-Prowse after the Premier League season starts this weekend. Both are set to test Southampton’s resolve to keep their captain after losing Danny Ings and Jannik Vestergaard being targeted by clubs in the final weeks of the transfer window. Ward-Prowse, 26, was targeted by Villa earlier in the summer before they turned their attention to forwards to cover for the loss of Jack Grealish, with Leon Bailey and Ings joining Emi Buendia as summer arrivals. He remains their No.1 target to bolster Dean Smith’s midfield, while Spurs also have the England international on their radar. Mauricio Pochettino wanted Ward-Prowse during his time at Spurs and he remains highly rated at the club. Ward-Prowse played in every Premier League game last season and scored eight goals, with his set-piece delivery one of Southampton’s biggest attacking weapons. It earned him a place in England’s provisional squad of the European Championships before he was dropped from the final 26. Southampton chief executive Martin Semmens has vowed to keep Ward-Prowse at the club and sees him as an important player for the future. Villa midfielder Marvelous Nakamba, 27, has been monitored by Watford and Everton. They would stand to make a profit on the £11 million paid to Club Brugges two years ago should they choose to cash in. Semmens said it himself yesterday, JWP will not be leaving under any circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, TWar said: Semmens said it himself yesterday, JWP will not be leaving under any circumstances. I don't think he did word it like that. What if a club bid £100m for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: I don't think he did word it like that. What if a club bid £100m for him? How did he word it out of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 (edited) They key question is where are these stories being repeatedly driven from? Hard to believe there hasn't been some encouragement from JWP and his reps somewhere along the line... Would be interesting to know whats happening behind the scenes as there is obviously something to it, or at least a/some parties want there to be. Edited 11 August, 2021 by Dusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 18 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Tottenham and Aston Villa are preparing moves for Southampton midfielder James Ward-Prowse after the Premier League season starts this weekend. Both are set to test Southampton’s resolve to keep their captain after losing Danny Ings and Jannik Vestergaard being targeted by clubs in the final weeks of the transfer window. Ward-Prowse, 26, was targeted by Villa earlier in the summer before they turned their attention to forwards to cover for the loss of Jack Grealish, with Leon Bailey and Ings joining Emi Buendia as summer arrivals. He remains their No.1 target to bolster Dean Smith’s midfield, while Spurs also have the England international on their radar. Mauricio Pochettino wanted Ward-Prowse during his time at Spurs and he remains highly rated at the club. Ward-Prowse played in every Premier League game last season and scored eight goals, with his set-piece delivery one of Southampton’s biggest attacking weapons. It earned him a place in England’s provisional squad of the European Championships before he was dropped from the final 26. Southampton chief executive Martin Semmens has vowed to keep Ward-Prowse at the club and sees him as an important player for the future. Villa midfielder Marvelous Nakamba, 27, has been monitored by Watford and Everton. They would stand to make a profit on the £11 million paid to Club Brugges two years ago should they choose to cash in. His agents and/or the PR machines at Villa and Spuds are on overdrive then Like Spurs are going to offer £40/50m for him - its levy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Just now, le_tiss said: Like Spurs are going to offer £40/50m for him - its levy Tanguy Ndombélé cost Spurs £54m So why not for a 26 year old PL club captain with 4 years left on his contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_tiss Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Tanguy Ndombélé cost Spurs £54m So why not for a 26 year old PL club captain with 4 years left on his contract? fair point, 4 years on his contract also at Lyon IIRC think Ndombele had played CL seasons before and looked really decent (against City) cant remember if Lyon needed to sell? cash strapped also depends on payment terms I would assume - all up front or over x amount of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, wild-saint said: How did he word it out of interest? He said it in a couple of different ways, the one I remember off the top of my head is Blackmore asked "I tweeted out a couple of days ago that there was 100% no chance JWP leaves, will I be made to look silly?" to which Semmens responded very bluntly with "No." He then went on to say how promising JWP was staying with the club was a key part of negotiations with new signings, especially Tino who asked specifically about it. He also spoke for a while of how he will be here next season, how important he is on and off the pitch ect. The gist was he isn't leaving. Edited 11 August, 2021 by TWar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Yeah I just don’t see. There may be a ludicrous fee at the right time we might accept. Don’t think the desirory figures mentioned are anywhere near that and the timing on the eve of season just makes it illogical to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 1 hour ago, le_tiss said: His agents and/or the PR machines at Villa and Spuds are on overdrive then The latter IMO, one trying to paper over selling their best player the other preparing for selling their best player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 8 minutes ago, tajjuk said: The latter IMO, one trying to paper over selling their best player the other preparing for selling their best player. I agree. I just don't think jwp is leaving. Didn't he say in an interview at the end of the season, that his dream is for his kids to see him lift a trophy for saints or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 I can't blame him really. Criminal he didn't get a chance at the Euros and probably thinks a higher profile club will help for the WC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Odds of him moving this summer are very slim now. Unless the unlikely event of someone overpaying to the extreme with a 60m+ offer occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 2 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. Because he isn’t and does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. Nope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. Probably because he’d look a bit silly if we accepted a £50m bid and he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. I don't think that's something which usually happens to be honest. The only example I can think of in recent times is Fabian Delph when he was at Villa, and then a week later....he left. So yeah, a bit of a pointless empty gesture really. He'd be well advised to just keep his head down, be professional and crack on. He knows the clubs stance, he'll know who is interested and the clubs will know at what value we will start to listen - as he will have a valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 11 minutes ago, Turkish said: Because he isn’t and does? Your opinion or knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 23 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. No, why should he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 9 minutes ago, Norm said: Your opinion or knowledge? Just suggesting it as a reason why. My knowledge says he ain’t going anywhere, at least not this summer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 Not fucking Tottenham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 11 August, 2021 Share Posted 11 August, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: Anyone wondering why JWP hasn't come out and said "I'm happy here and dont want to leave" as our captain that's what I'd be looking for from him he must know it's unsettling. Because then he'd be obliged to do it every time there was a link or people would assume he was off Bad precedent to set that he responds to every press rumour with a declaration of loyalty. There is a reason players very rarely do such things. Edited 11 August, 2021 by TWar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 Must be a reasonable chance he will be on his way sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 I'm pretty confident we are going to Morgan Schneiderlin his ass for this summer. Next summer, different ball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 12 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I'm pretty confident we are going to Morgan Schneiderlin his ass for this summer. Next summer, different ball game. Exactly what I think, he is next summers transfer budget. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 26 minutes ago, CB Fry said: I'm pretty confident we are going to Morgan Schneiderlin his ass for this summer. Next summer, different ball game. No idea why you think that. Best players sold off, Lots of transfer rumours about him, injured all preseason then makes a miraculous recovery to be fit for the first game of the season. No similarities whatsoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 Why do people still think JWP is leaving? The club said two nights ago that he is not. JWP is a Saint, he will be with us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bstokesaint Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 59 minutes ago, Dorchester Saint said: Why do people still think JWP is leaving? The club said two nights ago that he is not. JWP is a Saint, he will be with us this season. I think the issue of having an owner with large debts is that Martin Semmens can say and do the right thing but at any point Mr Gao Jisheng can jump in and go ill accept that offer thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bstokesaint said: I think the issue of having an owner with large debts is that Martin Semmens can say and do the right thing but at any point Mr Gao Jisheng can jump in and go ill accept that offer thank you very much Has that ever happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 My reading is that the club had to sell two of JV, JWP and DI to raise the necessary funds. That fits with a earlier report quoting JWP as saying 'it's up to the club'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Dorchester Saint said: Why do people still think JWP is leaving? The club said two nights ago that he is not. JWP is a Saint, he will be with us this season. Until you posted that, all I can see is a load of posts from people all agreeing that he isn't leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 1 hour ago, Bstokesaint said: I think the issue of having an owner with large debts is that Martin Semmens can say and do the right thing but at any point Mr Gao Jisheng can jump in and go ill accept that offer thank you very much Semmens has said numerous times that while Gao doesn't put money into the club, he doesn't take money out and that all transfer fees are ploughed back into the club as it is self-sustaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWar Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 1 hour ago, gordonToo said: My reading is that the club had to sell two of JV, JWP and DI to raise the necessary funds. That fits with a earlier report quoting JWP as saying 'it's up to the club'. I didn't see this report. Can you remember where it was from? That's an interesting quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVSOTON Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 (edited) On 05/08/2021 at 22:15, hypochondriac said: Best of luck mate. My best friend at primary school was a villa fan so I've always looked out for your results. Ings is class and should do a good job for you although it's undoubtedly a blow to lose your talisman, if you're like us you will spread the money about and have a more balanced team at the end of it. Always better not to be relying on one superstar and I hope we can take that advice as well now we have lost Danny. Top man - sorry for not replying sooner. As somebody who lives close to your ground I will be keeping my fingers crossed you stay up. Never met a horrible Saints fan. Actually, got a feeling it will be a better season than pundits expect. Armstrong is quality and I don't think JWP will move. Edited 12 August, 2021 by AVSOTON 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 12 August, 2021 Share Posted 12 August, 2021 10 minutes ago, TWar said: I didn't see this report. Can you remember where it was from? That's an interesting quote Sorry, it was a poster on this forum who said he knew JWP. Not verified anywhere else so far as I know. Fits the known facts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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