Saints 1-4 Newcastle - Match Thread

[SaintZamboni]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Great find. The foul was right in front of me it really was poor from their keeper. That was the first season of Nicholls young saint, flowers, Ruddock, le Tissier, Wallace, shearer coming through, we really struggled but we’re brilliant the next season 

Maybe there’s a lesson in that 

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, The Left Back said:

Not sure if I can paste very well

https://fb.watch/gyDvN2xRI4/

it was an extraordinary day, not least because it was a really soft penalty. It literally felt like the only way we could get a win.

as others have said the emotions were all over the shop and we celebrated like we’d won the cup

First time I’ve seen that since it happened! Thanks for sharing. 

It was a better penalty than I remembered, I thought he just blasted it but that was actually quite calm and composed. 

Edited 2 November, 2022 by Midfield_General

[JRM]

8 hours ago, Turkish said:

Great find. The foul was right in front of me it really was poor from their keeper. That was the first season of Nicholls young saint, flowers, Ruddock, le Tissier, Wallace, shearer coming through, we really struggled but we’re brilliant the next season 

Wallace was so good at winning those penalties as well, great era that 

[Turkish]

9 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

First time I’ve seen that since it happened! Thanks for sharing. 

It was a better penalty than I remembered, I thought he just blasted it but that was actually quite calm and composed. 

was that goal also the first time we saw what became known as the Ruddock Stomp?

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, JRM said:

Wallace was so good at winning those penalties as well, great era that 

That front 3/4 of Wallace, Le Tissier, Shearer and Rideout would be worth about £400m between them these days.

[Turkish]

9 hours ago, SaintZamboni said:

Maybe there’s a lesson in that 

That 89/90 season we played some of the best football i've ever seen. Brilliant attacking team, we regularly scored 3 or 4, were an absolute joy to watch. Flowers, Dodd, Benali, Ruddock, Le Tissier, Shearer, Wallace all youngesters combined with a few experienced heads Case, Osman, Cockerill, Horne Kevin Moore was a great time. It was the year i started going properly with my mates as well, 13 years old on the Milton Terrace paying £2 to get in and stand with your mates watch that team was great days.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

was that goal also the first time we saw what became known as the Ruddock Stomp?

I think so. This was before the days of transfer windows and he had only just recently signed (around the same time as Micky Adams).

I was there in the Milton end for this. It's the moment I truly discovered my love of football and the emotions it can stir. I was 14 and had only started going to watch games earlier that season (first match was a 2-1 ET defeat to Luton in the league cup), and we were really poor for the most part. When Razor smashed in that penalty to end a winless run of 22 games, the celebrations in the terrace around me were absolutely mental. 

[Midfield_General]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

That 89/90 season we played some of the best football i've ever seen. Brilliant attacking team, we regularly scored 3 or 4, were an absolute joy to watch. Flowers, Dodd, Benali, Ruddock, Le Tissier, Shearer, Wallace all youngesters combined with a few experienced heads Case, Osman, Cockerill, Horne Kevin Moore was a great time. It was the year i started going properly with my mates as well, 13 years old on the Milton Terrace paying £2 to get in and stand with your mates watch that team was great days.

We're the same age - that was exactly my experience as well. I'd started going with my dad 3 or 4 years earlier but that side/ squad was the first one that felt like 'mine' as a Saints fan. That was because it was when I started going on my own, the Denmark kit was awesome, the 4-2-4 football was so exciting to watch, and looking back that squad contained some of the names who though young players at the time would go onto become proper club legends who we'd end up watching spend their whole careers at Saints.

That one, the 2010-12 squad that got promoted from L1/Championship, and Koeman's 2014-15 squad are the three squads that have really defined Saints for me over the years. They all shared quality in every position, all played exciting, attacking football under a manager who wasn't afraid to have a go at anyone, and all pulled off some properly memorable results because of that. 

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

was that goal also the first time we saw what became known as the Ruddock Stomp?

It was. Originated by the Ugly Inside when it was still a paper fanzine, I believe. Following on from christening Shearer and Ruddock 'the Bruise Brothers'. They did Ruddock Stomp t-shirts and everything, I wonder if anyone's still got one? 

I'd settle for scrapping out an ugly 1-0 win from an 89th minute penalty this weekend. 

[Fan The Flames]

Newcastle are due a loss we're due a win, happy days.

[Charlie Wayman]

So, are we expecting this to be Hasenhüttl's home swan-song in the Premier League? How will you say Auf Weidersehn, with cheers or boos?

..and will it be with a last hurrah for his barmy 4-2-2-2 line up

[Saint Garrett]

1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said:

So, are we expecting this to be Hasenhüttl's home swan-song in the Premier League? How will you say Auf Weidersehn, with cheers or boos?

..and will it be with a last hurrah for his barmy 4-2-2-2 line up

That disgraceful barmy lineup that got us to the top of the premier league 2 seasons ago....

[danjosaint]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

 

first match was a 2-1 ET defeat to Luton in the league cup. 

Thats was my first match i truely remember, pretty sure that we were all giving loads of crap to Danny Wilson as he was timewasting waiting to take corner

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I think so. This was before the days of transfer windows and he had only just recently signed (around the same time as Micky Adams).

I was there in the Milton end for this. It's the moment I truly discovered my love of football and the emotions it can stir. I was 14 and had only started going to watch games earlier that season (first match was a 2-1 ET defeat to Luton in the league cup), and we were really poor for the most part. When Razor smashed in that penalty to end a winless run of 22 games, the celebrations in the terrace around me were absolutely mental. 

Was that Luton game the one where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed in normal time, also think it was a reply having got a draw up there. I was there for that one as well, went in the East Stand seats, first time going up there.

[skintsaint]

16 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

That disgraceful barmy lineup that got us to the top of the premier league 2 seasons ago....

beat Newcastle to go top too.....

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Midfield_General said:

We're the same age - that was exactly my experience as well. I'd started going with my dad 3 or 4 years earlier but that side/ squad was the first one that felt like 'mine' as a Saints fan. That was because it was when I started going on my own, the Denmark kit was awesome, the 4-2-4 football was so exciting to watch, and looking back that squad contained some of the names who though young players at the time would go onto become proper club legends who we'd end up watching spend their whole careers at Saints.

That one, the 2010-12 squad that got promoted from L1/Championship, and Koeman's 2014-15 squad are the three squads that have really defined Saints for me over the years. They all shared quality in every position, all played exciting, attacking football under a manager who wasn't afraid to have a go at anyone, and all pulled off some properly memorable results because of that. 

It was. Originated by the Ugly Inside when it was still a paper fanzine, I believe. Following on from christening Shearer and Ruddock 'the Bruise Brothers'. They did Ruddock Stomp t-shirts and everything, I wonder if anyone's still got one? 

I'd settle for scrapping out an ugly 1-0 win from an 89th minute penalty this weekend. 

Yeah my dad used to work most saturdays so went only a few times a season when he had a day off as a small kid, it was when i got to about 10 or so that i went a more regularly with my brother. Then a few years later when we all got paper rounds used to get paid on a saturday so had my own money to go to games with my mates. we'd have training for our tyro team on a satuday morning then up the Dell for gates opening. We used to get £6 a week and spend it on the bus fare in, a program on copy of TUI or On The March, pay on the gate entrance in and a bag of chips afterwards from the chippy at Bedford place, or if saints were away go to the cinema or watch the reserves. I remember the Ruddock Stomp tshirts, they used to have a load of T-shirts on the garage wall outside the Milton Road end. Great times. 

 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

27 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Was that Luton game the one where we had a perfectly good goal disallowed in normal time, also think it was a reply having got a draw up there. I was there for that one as well, went in the East Stand seats, first time going up there.

I remember having a goal disallowed and not having the faintest idea why because I had never even heard of the offside rule before that. 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I remember having a goal disallowed and not having the faintest idea why because I had never even heard of the offside rule before that. 

it wasn't for offside, one of the Wallaces was running down the wing and as a challenge came in their arm went across the player trying to make a tackle, Wallace beat the man, crossed and the other Wallace scored. The goal was disallowed for a foul, in all my years playing watching and coaching football it's the only time i can remember that sort of thing being given as a free kick so to have what could have been the winning goal ruled out in a cup quarter final makes it very gauling, but very saints and probably why i've never forgotten it, remember this was the 80s when you had to decapitate someone to get a booking.

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

it wasn't for offside, one of the Wallaces was running down the wing and as a challenge came in their arm went across the player trying to make a tackle, Wallace beat the man, crossed and the other Wallace scored. The goal was disallowed for a foul, in all my years playing watching and coaching football it's the only time i can remember that sort of thing being given as a free kick so to have what could have been the winning goal ruled out in a cup quarter final makes it very gauling, but very saints and probably why i've never forgotten it, remember this was the 80s when you had to decapitate someone to get a booking.

Interesting. Never realised that.

Everyone around me assumed it was for offside, and I remember thinking to myself "what's that then?" and not wanting to embarrass myself by asking someone! 🤣

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Interesting. Never realised that.

Everyone around me assumed it was for offside, and I remember thinking to myself "what's that then?" and not wanting to embarrass myself by asking someone! 🤣

Just found the highlights, disallowed goal is just after 5 minutes, unreal even now

 

 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

59 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yeah my dad used to work most saturdays so went only a few times a season when he had a day off as a small kid, it was when i got to about 10 or so that i went a more regularly with my brother. Then a few years later when we all got paper rounds used to get paid on a saturday so had my own money to go to games with my mates. we'd have training for our tyro team on a satuday morning then up the Dell for gates opening. We used to get £6 a week and spend it on the bus fare in, a program on copy of TUI or On The March, pay on the gate entrance in and a bag of chips afterwards from the chippy at Bedford place, or if saints were away go to the cinema or watch the reserves. I remember the Ruddock Stomp tshirts, they used to have a load of T-shirts on the garage wall outside the Milton Road end. Great times. 

 

 

That exactly my experiences too. I only got a fiver a week for my morning paper round. Rates must have been lower depending on where you lived! We always used to get at The Dell for bang one pm when they opened the turnstiles, so we could get down the front behind the goal at Milton Road. From what I remember it was £2 for us to get in. If I watch old TV clips from around 89/90 I can see myself and my mates clearly as we always took an inflatable banana with us. As you say great days 

[skintsaint]

37 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Just found the highlights, disallowed goal is just after 5 minutes, unreal even now

 

 

VAR would spend 5mins looking at that and still get the decision wrong.

[alehouseboys]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

they used to have a load of T-shirts on the garage wall outside the Milton Road end. Great times. 

Wasn’t that ‘Pirate Paul’?

I must have been around 30 at that time and used to stand on the lower East Terrace, think I only ever went in the ‘new’ Milton twice at best, full of 13-14 year olds 🥴

That Les Sealy was a bit of a coont too.

Edited 3 November, 2022 by alehouseboys

[Wurzel]

Sign of the times, a pre-match thread for our next fixture turns into a much more interesting one reminiscing about the 1980s.  If only we could be have a performance and atmosphere on Saturday like we used to get in those days.

[Vancouver Saint]

Used to be totally predictable we'd beat Newcastle at home and they'd beat us at St James's - both teams not travelling well. Am sure it was part of a long-standing rolling agreement between the two clubs! They broke that agreement last time with that outrageous Guimares goal at St Mary's (our last gasp draw up there felt like a win). That era is done. The confidence and team-togetherness (oh yes...and better, in-form players) of Newcastle should make this a no-contest. 0-3 I reckon if it goes to form. 

I'm praying for a combination of Newcastle having a really bad off-day (let's not get injured before the World Cup) and Saints playing out of their skins in response to a heartfelt plea from Ralph to save his job. Although, I think that ship has already sailed and we'll get an announcement after the Liverpool game using the World Cup break to hire a new manager.

[JRM]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

That front 3/4 of Wallace, Le Tissier, Shearer and Rideout would be worth about £400m between them these days.

We'd still cash them in and buy Dixon and Speedie 

[JRM]

3 hours ago, alehouseboys said:

Wasn’t that ‘Pirate Paul’?

I must have been around 30 at that time and used to stand on the lower East Terrace, think I only ever went in the ‘new’ Milton twice at best, full of 13-14 year olds 🥴

That Les Sealy was a bit of a coont too.

I used to go in the lower East benches as a kid , remember pirate Paul's stall produced some classic t-shirts, better than the official shop full of 'Saints - the spirit of Southampton' tat 

[JRM]

9 hours ago, Turkish said:

was that goal also the first time we saw what became known as the Ruddock Stomp?

Another classic was the home win 1995 heading for defeat we managed to conjure up three late goals with legends Shipperley, Watson and Heaney tearing them apart 

 

 

[JRM]

Can't beat this for some Newcastle at home nostalgia 

 

[Granite_City_Saint]

18 minutes ago, JRM said:

Another classic was the home win 1995 heading for defeat we managed to conjure up three late goals with legends Shipperley, Watson and Heaney tearing them apart 

 

 

I was at that game with a Newcastle fan. It was amazing how quickly the smile disappeared from his face.

[Charlie Wayman]

5 hours ago, Turkish said:

Yeah my dad used to work most saturdays so went only a few times a season when he had a day off as a small kid, it was when i got to about 10 or so that i went a more regularly with my brother. Then a few years later when we all got paper rounds used to get paid on a saturday so had my own money to go to games with my mates. we'd have training for our tyro team on a satuday morning then up the Dell for gates opening. We used to get £6 a week and spend it on the bus fare in, a program on copy of TUI or On The March, pay on the gate entrance in and a bag of chips afterwards from the chippy at Bedford place, or if saints were away go to the cinema or watch the reserves. I remember the Ruddock Stomp tshirts, they used to have a load of T-shirts on the garage wall outside the Milton Road end. Great times. 

 

 

Lovely trip down memory lane but you forgot to mention the bogs?

[JRM]

4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Just found the highlights, disallowed goal is just after 5 minutes, unreal even now

 

 

Brilliant footage that mate, what I love about that era everyone loved the cup competitions, packed crowds, there was a real buzz about them, remember a similar game against Oldham that we somehow managed not to win.

Any idea what the name of the lino was? I'm going to track him down  and ask how much Luton had paid him 

[S-Clarke]

6 hours ago, Fan The Flames said:

Newcastle are due a loss we're due a win, happy days.

Whenever it pans out like that in the opposite way (i.e we're on the good run, they're on a bad run), you can almost always guarantee we will slip up. Not so sure it ever applies the other way round for us.

But I must admit this is one of the reasons why I have a funny feeling about a positive result at the weekend.

Edited 3 November, 2022 by S-Clarke

[Turkish]

21 minutes ago, JRM said:

Brilliant footage that mate, what I love about that era everyone loved the cup competitions, packed crowds, there was a real buzz about them, remember a similar game against Oldham that we somehow managed not to win.

Any idea what the name of the lino was? I'm going to track him down  and ask how much Luton had paid him 

The FA cup 3rd round used to be one of the biggest crowds of the season. I remember us taking 9,000 to spurs, having a big crowd at home to Ipswich who were what is now the championship, we won 3-2 but they had a big follow, midweek games cup games were always brilliant, packed grounds great atmosphere, big loud away followings. 
 

that Oldham game was ridiculous, 2-1 up in the 5th minute of injury time and they score. 
 

I think that Luton game was either before or after us being knocked out of the FA cup by the same score to Derby also in a reply I think. Midweek game, the dell was packed it was a brilliant atmosphere again. we’d got there about 45 minutes before kick off and they’d shut the Milton as it was full and sent everyone to the archers road end. They reported the crowd as something like 16,000 it was thousands more than that. 

[alehouseboys]

50 minutes ago, JRM said:

Another classic was the home win 1995 heading for defeat we managed to conjure up three late goals with legends Shipperley, Watson and Heaney tearing them apart 

 

 

That was a cracker. The atmosphere was throbbing as the game wore on, and it was the vocal support, the roar, that dragged us back into it. The night the Archers stood up and never sat back down.

Edit: Another game - I can also remember walking out of the Dell almost time up 0-2 down to them, by the time I'd reached Hill Lane it was 2-2.

Edited 3 November, 2022 by alehouseboys

[Wurzel]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

.... They reported the crowd as something like 16,000 it was thousands more than that. 

I was always convinced at least 20% of the turnstiles mysteriously "didn't register" for every night game. They regularly seemed packed, overpacked even but the official attendance was always way less than it seemed.

All seater stadiums obviously put paid to that 😂

[JRM]

1 hour ago, Wurzel said:

I was always convinced at least 20% of the turnstiles mysteriously "didn't register" for every night game. They regularly seemed packed, overpacked even but the official attendance was always way less than it seemed.

All seater stadiums obviously put paid to that 😂

100%, cash on the turnstile , tax efficient not to declare it all as income was common practice 

[JRM]

1 hour ago, alehouseboys said:

That was a cracker. The atmosphere was throbbing as the game wore on, and it was the vocal support, the roar, that dragged us back into it. The night the Archers stood up and never sat back down.

Edit: Another game - I can also remember walking out of the Dell almost time up 0-2 down to them, by the time I'd reached Hill Lane it was 2-2.

Was definitely the night the Archers Road really took off as our "home end" , brilliant atmosphere, block 4 and 5 drowning out away fans that were tucked away in lower East corner was a great few last years at The Dell 

[JRM]

Some thoughts from the Geordies featuring obligatory "I've got tickets in the home end" posts we've become used to 

https://newcastle-online.org/topic/37517-southampton-vs-newcastle-united-61122-2pm-sky-sports/

[Yorkshire Saint]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

The FA cup 3rd round used to be one of the biggest crowds of the season. I remember us taking 9,000 to spurs, having a big crowd at home to Ipswich who were what is now the championship, we won 3-2 but they had a big follow, midweek games cup games were always brilliant, packed grounds great atmosphere, big loud away followings. 
 

that Oldham game was ridiculous, 2-1 up in the 5th minute of injury time and they score. 
 

I think that Luton game was either before or after us being knocked out of the FA cup by the same score to Derby also in a reply I think. Midweek game, the dell was packed it was a brilliant atmosphere again. we’d got there about 45 minutes before kick off and they’d shut the Milton as it was full and sent everyone to the archers road end. They reported the crowd as something like 16,000 it was thousands more than that. 

Roger fucking Milford. Bunn and Ritchie. Still angry !!

[Daft Kerplunk]

6 hours ago, skintsaint said:

VAR would spend 5mins looking at that and still get the decision wrong.

I don’t understand this football. Far too many chances, teams wanting to attack. Where’s the game management? Why is it so fun? 

[saint1977]

8 hours ago, danjosaint said:

Thats was my first match i truely remember, pretty sure that we were all giving loads of crap to Danny Wilson as he was timewasting waiting to take corner

There was a middle aged bloke on the Milton chucking pound coins at Steve Foster every time Luton defended a corner at that end. Not sure he hit him, quite a few did hit the bar and fell in the six yard area. Seemed to be throwing a fortune as a kid!

[Turkish]

44 minutes ago, Daft Kerplunk said:

I don’t understand this football. Far too many chances, teams wanting to attack. Where’s the game management? Why is it so fun? 

A lot of people today would be disappointed we didn’t hit our XG that night 

[Appy]

More travel issues for Sunday 

[Saint Garrett]

1 hour ago, JRM said:

Some thoughts from the Geordies featuring obligatory "I've got tickets in the home end" posts we've become used to 

https://newcastle-online.org/topic/37517-southampton-vs-newcastle-united-61122-2pm-sky-sports/

Not a big surprise, given how easy it is to get tickets atm. There is no doubt the relatively poor form. The match ticket prices, and the cost of living crisis are all impacting the attendances at home this season. 

They’re on a high. When you’re in that situation you make sacrifices elsewhere to be able to go, fair play to them. Been really impressive under Howe, far better than I ever thought they’d be. 

[Saint Garrett]

1 minute ago, Appy said:

More travel issues for Sunday 

Embarrassing. Every single game. 

[saint1977]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

The FA cup 3rd round used to be one of the biggest crowds of the season. I remember us taking 9,000 to spurs, having a big crowd at home to Ipswich who were what is now the championship, we won 3-2 but they had a big follow, midweek games cup games were always brilliant, packed grounds great atmosphere, big loud away followings. 
 

that Oldham game was ridiculous, 2-1 up in the 5th minute of injury time and they score. 
 

I think that Luton game was either before or after us being knocked out of the FA cup by the same score to Derby also in a reply I think. Midweek game, the dell was packed it was a brilliant atmosphere again. we’d got there about 45 minutes before kick off and they’d shut the Milton as it was full and sent everyone to the archers road end. They reported the crowd as something like 16,000 it was thousands more than that. 

Great times. Didn’t it kick off after we beat Spurs 3-1 at WHL with the skates in Covent Garden who also had a game in the smoke? As for Oldham, Joe Royle built a good side but Roger Milford helped them that night. No chance in the replay as we weren’t good on the away games on plastic pitches in those days. Only seemed to be QPR that we could get a result, took 7-0 and 6-1 beatings on Luton’s. 

[Turkish]

7 minutes ago, saint1977 said:

Great times. Didn’t it kick off after we beat Spurs 3-1 at WHL with the skates in Covent Garden who also had a game in the smoke? As for Oldham, Joe Royle built a good side but Roger Milford helped them that night. No chance in the replay as we weren’t good on the away games on plastic pitches in those days. Only seemed to be QPR that we could get a result, took 7-0 and 6-1 beatings on Luton’s. 

Yes Pompey were away at palace we were away to spurs. *Allegedly* the mighty 657 got chased all over Covent Garden, funny how they forgot that one in their book. 
 

Mad how they let teams have plastic pitches, gave them such an advantage. Sure we did get a 4-3 win at Luton on it but like you say we usually got humped

[Saintscummer]

22 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

First time I’ve seen that since it happened! Thanks for sharing. 

It was a better penalty than I remembered, I thought he just blasted it but that was actually quite calm and composed. 

That steward was brave !!

[JRM]

2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Embarrassing. Every single game. 

They're a shambles, seems like it gets worse each season 

Understandable no bus drivers would want overtime when Saints v Newcastle is on the box though 

[John B]

8 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Embarrassing. Every single game. 

It is the same with Thames Valley buses a general lack of drivers likely caused by Brexit the gift that never gives