Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 17 minutes ago, aintforever said: Except whoever wrote the Reform 'contract' it seems. I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov) "Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target." Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, whelk said: Half these just stop oil lot are old dears not millennials. Listen to Farage, yes him again! If you think everyone is aware of climate change. Net zero is for the elites. They are coming for your oil and your car Farage is fully aware of climate change, as is pretty much everyone else. Most of the so-called deniers are just arguing a contrarian point for their own personal gains; either political lobbying from large industrial corporations or because it quite simply upsets the lefties and that’s what gives them a kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov) "Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target." Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors. What’s not to like? Excellent sensible approach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Left Back Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxwwzmn12g9o I think this is more likely to materially effect our fossil fuel evolution than Just Stop Oil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov) "Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target." Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors. Ha, they have updated it from the one I downloaded from their site earlier in the week. The previous version (if you want to know what they really think) included a load of denier nonsense including this: “Climate change has happened for millions of years, before man made CO2 emissions, and will always change. We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth” Old rubber face has obviously realised their real views are not a great vote winner and has been careful with his wording. He got completely rinsed over it on Radio 5 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 23 minutes ago, aintforever said: Ha, they have updated it from the one I downloaded from their site earlier in the week. The previous version (if you want to know what they really think) included a load of denier nonsense including this: “Climate change has happened for millions of years, before man made CO2 emissions, and will always change. We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth” Old rubber face has obviously realised their real views are not a great vote winner and has been careful with his wording. He got completely rinsed over it on Radio 5 last week. I guess their manifesto writers looked at the available texts as they created each page. "Nope, we're not putting that in. Nope, nor that..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 34 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: I guess their manifesto writers looked at the available texts as they created each page. "Nope, we're not putting that in. Nope, nor that..." Which is exactly what Labour did with theirs. Looked at what they’d promised previously, and amended it. I didn’t “download” a previous version 😂, I’m not quite that sad, but Starmer is getting praised for changing Labour from previous versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What’s not to like? Excellent sensible approach. An old man with a hard on for Farage. Is it embarrassing or just sad to have gained so little wisdom in all those years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Which is exactly what Labour did with theirs. Looked at what they’d promised previously, and amended it. I didn’t “download” a previous version 😂, I’m not quite that sad, but Starmer is getting praised for changing Labour from previous versions. 🙂 I did start a line about it not exactly being unknown elsewhere, but cut it. I was going to make the point that smaller parties in particular have to allocate funding carefully, so there's a bit more of a gap in the before or after document, as producing the manifesto comes with a cost. Being larger Labour don't have the same issue. Their version control issues come from keeping track of u-turns, editing put any old pledges and trying as best they can to cost things, after economic mismanagement. It's still interesting to see the before pictures. A glimpse into what parties are willing to get for support against what they do to get elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31cc Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Not sure George Davis' case is one to cite about protesters tbh 🙂 In 1978, two years after his release from prison, Davis was jailed again, having pleaded guilty to involvement in an armed bank raid on 23 September 1977 at the Bank of Cyprus, Seven Sisters Road, London.[14] Davis was caught at the wheel of the getaway van with weapons beside him; in the raid shots were fired and a security guard clubbed to the ground.[15] He was released early in 1984 but jailed again in 1987 for attempting to steal mailbags. Davis pleaded guilty. (Wiki) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880xjx54mpo Plenty of time to plan their next protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 33 minutes ago, skintsaint said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880xjx54mpo Plenty of time to plan their next protest. 5 years seems a tad harsh esp given the overcrowded prisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 It was the M25 - that is the nromal traffic situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 21 minutes ago, whelk said: 5 years seems a tad harsh esp given the overcrowded prisons Yep, they deserve a decent stretch, but that's a bit strong. The ring leader properly irritated the judge and I suspect they all got of the backlash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 On 18/07/2024 at 19:42, egg said: Yep, they deserve a decent stretch, but that's a bit strong. The ring leader properly irritated the judge and I suspect they all got of the backlash. theyll get released on the quiet early for good behaviour. Need to set an example so that the blocking of roads is stopped. The climate brigade think they have a god given right to affect peoples lives, but there seems to be more people thinking that the climate emergency is a bit of a hoax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 And now they are going to disrupt the airports. Just love to inconvenience hard working people who need a break. Give them 10years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 If only we had the resources of several hundred million to spare. Then we could set up climate action hubs in other parts of the world, where these activist could make a difference across whole continents. Say Rwanda, to pluck a country at random for such a hub. If only we had the resources to sink 1000 civil servants to facilitate it. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: If only we had the resources of several hundred million to spare. Then we could set up climate action hubs in other parts of the world, where these activist could make a difference across whole continents. Say Rwanda, to pluck a country at random for such a hub. If only we had the resources to sink 1000 civil servants to facilitate it. 🙂 Meh, just stick them on a plane and drop them off there. No way they're catching a plane home, so it'll be months before they get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2502nj7ynqo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Now blocking the departure gates at Gatwick. That's it, ruin and inconvenience hard working peoples holidays. Look at the image of them, not a job amongst them. They are like a weird religious cult 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Just step over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint francis Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 The one in the pink hoodie looks like she's been taken hostage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, OldNick said: Now blocking the departure gates at Gatwick. That's it, ruin and inconvenience hard working peoples holidays. Look at the image of them, not a job amongst them. They are like a weird religious cult The one in the red trousers looks bemused she thought the one behind her was taking her on holiday as he is her grandson. The one in the pink trousers is suffering with piles by the looks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, OldNick said: They are like a weird religious cult They are just environmental protesters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 13 minutes ago, whelk said: They are just environmental protesters Not in my book, but I assume you sympathise, as is your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 22 minutes ago, OldNick said: Not in my book, but I assume you sympathise, as is your right. I don’t actually but strikes and protests etc are meant to have a point either in terms of visibility or disruption. Law needs to ensure any disruption is reasonable ie not bringing M25 to a halt. The picture you posted didn’t look like much in terms of stopping flights. I generally like that people are engaged enough to protest rather than being apathetic regardless of the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, whelk said: I don’t actually but strikes and protests etc are meant to have a point either in terms of visibility or disruption. Law needs to ensure any disruption is reasonable ie not bringing M25 to a halt. The picture you posted didn’t look like much in terms of stopping flights. I generally like that people are engaged enough to protest rather than being apathetic regardless of the cause. I suggest when you are looking forward to jetting off those twats are there disrupting your hard earned rest, you will of course sympathise and wait patiently in the queues as you see your holiday melt away. I dont fly very often and so I can stick 2 fingers up at them as I fill my 1990 Rolls Royce with another tank full of fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 (edited) 11 minutes ago, OldNick said: as you see your holiday melt away Are you getting little carried away? Did you give up and go home? I fly pretty frequently and often delays for a number of reasons. Suggest it’s the likes of your attitude that the people feel need to protest about. There is a gender thread on the main board you can get yourself worked up about. First it’s your engine, then your pronouns, where will it end? Edited July 29 by whelk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, whelk said: Are you getting little carried away? Did you give up and go home? I fly pretty frequently and often delays for a number of reasons. Suggest it’s the likes of your attitude that the people feel need to protest about. There is a gender thread on the main board you can get yourself worked up about. First it’s your engine, then your pronouns, where will it end? Im not worried about gender and wont even read it. My attitude is that im not fully into climate emergency and so dont take it seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Awkward choice of protest day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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