Just stop oil protestors throw soup over Van Gogh masterpiece

[Holmes_and_Watson]

17 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Except whoever wrote the Reform 'contract' it seems.

I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov)

"Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more
recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not
impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target."

Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors.

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, whelk said:

Half these just stop oil lot are old dears not millennials. Listen to Farage, yes him again! If you think everyone is aware of climate change. Net zero is for the elites. They are coming for your oil and your car

Farage is fully aware of climate change, as is pretty much everyone else. Most of the so-called deniers are just arguing a contrarian point for their own personal gains; either political lobbying from large industrial corporations or because it quite simply upsets the lefties and that’s what gives them a kick.

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov)

"Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more
recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not
impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target."

Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors.

What’s not to like? 
 

Excellent sensible approach. 

[The Left Back]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cxwwzmn12g9o

I think this is more likely to materially effect our fossil fuel evolution than Just Stop Oil

[aintforever]

3 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I was looking at it, off the back of a previous post (honest gov)

"Net Zero is pushing up bills, damaging British industries like steel, and making us less secure. We can protect our environment with more tree planting, more
recycling and less single use plastics. New technology will help, but we must not
impoverish ourselves in pursuit of unaffordable, unachievable global CO2 target."

Headlines- scrap net zero and renewable subsidies; grant North sea licenses and later invest in modular reactors.

Ha, they have updated it from the one I downloaded from their site earlier in the week. The previous version (if you want to know what they really think) included a load of denier nonsense including this:

“Climate change has happened for millions of years, before man made CO2 emissions, and will always change. We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth”

Old rubber face has obviously realised their real views are not a great vote winner and has been careful with his wording. He got completely rinsed over it on Radio 5 last week.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

23 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Ha, they have updated it from the one I downloaded from their site earlier in the week. The previous version (if you want to know what they really think) included a load of denier nonsense including this:

“Climate change has happened for millions of years, before man made CO2 emissions, and will always change. We are better to adapt to warming, rather than pretend we can stop it. Up to 10 times more people die of cold than warmth”

Old rubber face has obviously realised their real views are not a great vote winner and has been careful with his wording. He got completely rinsed over it on Radio 5 last week.

I guess their manifesto writers looked at the available texts as they created each page. "Nope, we're not putting that in. Nope, nor that..."

[Lord Duckhunter]

34 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I guess their manifesto writers looked at the available texts as they created each page. "Nope, we're not putting that in. Nope, nor that..."

Which is exactly what Labour did with theirs. Looked at what they’d promised previously, and amended it. I didn’t “download” a previous version 😂, I’m not quite that sad, but Starmer is getting praised for changing Labour from previous versions. 

[whelk]

3 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

What’s not to like? 
 

Excellent sensible approach. 

An old man with a hard on for Farage. Is it embarrassing or just sad to have gained so little wisdom in all those years?

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Which is exactly what Labour did with theirs. Looked at what they’d promised previously, and amended it. I didn’t “download” a previous version 😂, I’m not quite that sad, but Starmer is getting praised for changing Labour from previous versions. 

🙂

I did start a line about it not exactly being unknown elsewhere, but cut it. I was going to make the point that smaller parties in particular have to allocate funding carefully, so there's a bit more of a gap in the before or after document, as producing the manifesto comes with a cost.

Being larger Labour don't have the same issue. Their version control issues come from keeping track of u-turns, editing put any old pledges and trying as best they can to cost things, after economic mismanagement.

It's still interesting to see the before pictures. A glimpse into what parties are willing to get for support against what they do to get elected.

[31cc]

Not sure George Davis' case is one to cite about protesters tbh  🙂

In 1978, two years after his release from prison, Davis was jailed again, having pleaded guilty to involvement in an armed bank raid on 23 September 1977 at the Bank of Cyprus, Seven Sisters Road, London.^[14] Davis was caught at the wheel of the getaway van with weapons beside him; in the raid shots were fired and a security guard clubbed to the ground.^[15] He was released early in 1984 but jailed again in 1987 for attempting to steal mailbags. Davis pleaded guilty. (Wiki)

[skintsaint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880xjx54mpo

Plenty of time to plan their next protest.

[whelk]

33 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c880xjx54mpo

Plenty of time to plan their next protest.

5 years seems a tad harsh esp given the overcrowded prisons

[badgerx16]

It was the M25 - that is the nromal traffic situation.

[egg]

21 minutes ago, whelk said:

5 years seems a tad harsh esp given the overcrowded prisons

Yep, they deserve a decent stretch, but that's a bit strong. The ring leader properly irritated the judge and I suspect they all got of the backlash. 

[OldNick]

On 18/07/2024 at 19:42, egg said:

Yep, they deserve a decent stretch, but that's a bit strong. The ring leader properly irritated the judge and I suspect they all got of the backlash. 

theyll get released on the quiet early for good behaviour. Need to set an example so that the blocking of roads is stopped. 

The climate brigade think they have a god given right to affect peoples lives, but there seems to be more people thinking that the climate emergency is a bit of a hoax.

[OldNick]

And now they are going to disrupt the airports. Just love to inconvenience hard working people who need a break. Give them 10years

[Holmes_and_Watson]

If only we had the resources of several hundred million to spare. Then we could set up climate action hubs in other parts of the world, where these activist could make a difference across whole continents. Say Rwanda, to pluck a country at random for such a hub.

If only we had the resources to sink 1000 civil servants to facilitate it.

🙂

[Weston Super Saint]

2 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

If only we had the resources of several hundred million to spare. Then we could set up climate action hubs in other parts of the world, where these activist could make a difference across whole continents. Say Rwanda, to pluck a country at random for such a hub.

If only we had the resources to sink 1000 civil servants to facilitate it.

🙂

Meh, just stick them on a plane and drop them off there. No way they're catching a plane home, so it'll be months before they get back.

[skintsaint]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2502nj7ynqo

[OldNick]

Now blocking the departure gates at Gatwick.

That's it, ruin and inconvenience hard working peoples holidays. Look at the image of them, not a job amongst them. They are like a weird religious cult

[Weston Super Saint]

Just step over?

[saint francis]

The one in the pink hoodie looks like she's been taken hostage. 

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Now blocking the departure gates at Gatwick.

That's it, ruin and inconvenience hard working peoples holidays. Look at the image of them, not a job amongst them. They are like a weird religious cult

The one in the red trousers looks bemused she thought the one behind her was taking her on holiday as he is her grandson.

The one in the pink trousers is suffering with piles by the looks of it

[whelk]

1 hour ago, OldNick said:

They are like a weird religious cult

They are just environmental protesters 

[OldNick]

13 minutes ago, whelk said:

They are just environmental protesters 

Not in my book, but I assume you sympathise, as is your right.

[whelk]

22 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Not in my book, but I assume you sympathise, as is your right.

I don’t actually but strikes and protests etc are meant to have a point either in terms of visibility or disruption. 
Law needs to ensure any disruption is reasonable ie not bringing M25 to a halt. The picture you posted didn’t look like much in terms of stopping flights. 
I generally like that people are engaged enough to protest rather than being apathetic regardless of the cause.

[OldNick]

7 minutes ago, whelk said:

I don’t actually but strikes and protests etc are meant to have a point either in terms of visibility or disruption. 
Law needs to ensure any disruption is reasonable ie not bringing M25 to a halt. The picture you posted didn’t look like much in terms of stopping flights. 
I generally like that people are engaged enough to protest rather than being apathetic regardless of the cause.

I suggest when you are looking forward to jetting off those twats are there disrupting your hard earned rest, you will of course sympathise and wait patiently in the queues as you see your holiday melt away. I dont fly very often and so I can stick 2 fingers up at them as I fill my 1990 Rolls Royce with another tank full of fuel

[whelk]

11 minutes ago, OldNick said:

as you see your holiday melt away

Are you getting little carried away? Did you give up and go home?

I fly pretty frequently and often delays for a number of reasons. Suggest it’s the likes of your attitude that the people feel need to protest about.  There is a gender thread on the main board you can get yourself worked up about. First it’s your engine, then your pronouns, where will it end?

Edited 29 July, 2024 by whelk

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Are you getting little carried away? Did you give up and go home?

I fly pretty frequently and often delays for a number of reasons. Suggest it’s the likes of your attitude that the people feel need to protest about.  There is a gender thread on the main board you can get yourself worked up about. First it’s your engine, then your pronouns, where will it end?

Im not worried about gender and wont even read it. My attitude is that im not fully into climate emergency and so dont take it seriously

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Awkward choice of protest day.