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The more I think about this the more I think he might come back. He’s been linked with nice and villa. He loves Southampton openly saying him and his wife love the area and that he wouldn’t have left but the ambition of the club changed with cortese going. We have owners now that have proved they will spend money. He also is great bringing young players through. I think it’s a no brainer. Go all out for him. Am I mad? 

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LuckyNumber7

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Absolutely no chance.

He was here for less than a year so it's not like he ever had a really strong connection with us. He left for Spurs because they are a much bigger club with far more chance of success.

He can hold out until a bigger job is available. Why on Earth would he want to join us for a relegation battle with a squad full of kids?

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I can’t see it, I can’t see him wanting it, why would he?   I don’t think we’ll get any points from the next two games which would put us on 7 points out of 33. Or 7 from 11 games, and probably firmly in the bottom 3. Even with a new manager in time for West Ham I’m  It sure things will not change very quickly, we seem to be in a deep malaise.  

I can’t see our overlords wanting him. I suspect we will go for a “coach” who will tow the SR “moneyball”line. When, if survival is the aim, we should be looking at someone like Sean Dyche. I’d equally be very surprised if that happened.

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FarehamSaintJames

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Everyone has a price. It's just whether Southampton want to spend millions sacking Ralph and then spend millions on Poch, but I bet if you said to him come here for one/two and a half years , turn it around and insert a clause in his contract that allows him to go if a bigger club comes in, he'd take it.

Likelihood is so low; but everyone has a price.

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Put him in the same boat as Gakpo and Moussa Dembele, who didn't want to come here. Semmens is on record as saying it doesn't matter where we finish in the league, when it does as the next bracket of players/managers do not want to be anywhere near a side constantly flirting with relegation.

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1 hour ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Absolutely no chance.

He was here for less than a year so it's not like he ever had a really strong connection with us. He left for Spurs because they are a much bigger club with far more chance of success.

He can hold out until a bigger job is available. Why on Earth would he want to join us for a relegation battle with a squad full of kids?

He was here for half a season in 2013 and then full season 2013-14, joined Spurs in May 2014.

He will not rejoin while KL is still involved with the club (and probably wouldn't even if she was not).

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Whoever we get is going to have to try and avoid relegation with one of the cheapest assembled, lowest quality squads in the league. By all means call for Ralph’s head but if you’re expecting one of Europe’s top managers to come in and take us a big step forward, you’re going to be disappointed.

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26 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

He was here for half a season in 2013 and then full season 2013-14, joined Spurs in May 2014.

He will not rejoin while KL is still involved with the club (and probably wouldn't even if she was not).

Ah my bad, fair enough. I still stand by the point though he was only here because of Cortese and his stock has risen hugely since. He has no deep connection with the club or reason to come back.

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4 minutes ago, egg said:

"Is Poch realistic target?"

No. He's well out of our league. Right now Frank is out of our league. We'll get a lower league manager, or some unknown from Armenia or some such. 

We aren’t an attractive proposition for any half ambitious manager are we. A team of kids that can’t score, a relegation battle without any leaders on the pitch to galvanise the team when things go against us, without the budget to spend our way out of trouble. It doesn’t look good for us and you’d struggle to see why anyone half decent would take the job at the moment. 

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2 hours ago, Roger said:

The more I think about this the more I think he might come back. He’s been linked with nice and villa. He loves Southampton openly saying him and his wife love the area and that he wouldn’t have left but the ambition of the club changed with cortese going. We have owners now that have proved they will spend money. He also is great bringing young players through. I think it’s a no brainer. Go all out for him. Am I mad? 

Honestly stop thinking about it.

He is not coming to us.

Jesus wept.

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28 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We aren’t an attractive proposition for any half ambitious manager are we. A team of kids that can’t score, a relegation battle without any leaders on the pitch to galvanise the team when things go against us, without the budget to spend our way out of trouble. It doesn’t look good for us and you’d struggle to see why anyone half decent would take the job at the moment. 

When you put it like that it kind of only leaves Dyche.

Very depressing.

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CB Fry

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14 minutes ago, Dellman said:

No, you are not mad, it's a brilliant thought and would be a dream come true but he left when he saw the vision and ambition of   Markus and Cortese destroyed and KL who did it is still part owner so it won't happen.

Cortese or not Pochettino would have been out the door as soon as a big club came calling. The Cortese thing just gave him a convenient excuse that some Saints fans still lap up to this day.

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To have an idea of the kind of manager we may look for - just look at the player transfers we've made.

Any new manager will be a relatively unknown, but young manager with high potential. We will use the same mantra with that as we do for players (do well here, this is a steppingstone etc).

As we know going for established players is a no-go with our model, and so is managers. Poch had his time here, we gave him a platform and now he's of a higher level. 

Young, relatively novice but talented managers are where we will look. Pretty much what Poch was when we got him in.

If that's a sensible thing to do in our current situation is up for debate. But it is pretty much our model.

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12 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

To have an idea of the kind of manager we may look for - just look at the player transfers we've made.

Any new manager will be a relatively unknown, but young manager with high potential. We will use the same mantra with that as we do for players (do well here, this is a steppingstone etc).

As we know going for established players is a no-go with our model, and so is managers. Poch had his time here, we gave him a platform and now he's of a higher level. 

Young, relatively novice but talented managers are where we will look. Pretty much what Poch was when we got him in.

If that's a sensible thing to do in our current situation is up for debate. But it is pretty much our model.

It’s sensible if you get an older, experienced manager in to guide him and help him for a couple of years which I guess was/is the plan with the guy who’s come in as first team coach.

 

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3 hours ago, Roger said:

The more I think about this the more I think he might come back. He’s been linked with nice and villa. He loves Southampton openly saying him and his wife love the area and that he wouldn’t have left but the ambition of the club changed with cortese going. We have owners now that have proved they will spend money. He also is great bringing young players through. I think it’s a no brainer. Go all out for him. Am I mad? 

Yes

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5 hours ago, egg said:

"Is Poch realistic target?"

No. He's well out of our league. Right now Frank is out of our league. We'll get a lower league manager, or some unknown from Armenia or some such. 

have you seen Brentfords form recently?..............and they have a striker!

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6 hours ago, Roger said:

The more I think about this the more I think he might come back. He’s been linked with nice and villa. He loves Southampton openly saying him and his wife love the area and that he wouldn’t have left but the ambition of the club changed with cortese going. We have owners now that have proved they will spend money. He also is great bringing young players through. I think it’s a no brainer. Go all out for him. Am I mad? 

Absolutely delusional Mickey Mouse has more chance of becoming manager than Poch

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24 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

have you seen Brentfords form recently?..............and they have a striker!

Yep, but they won't go down, and will finish above us. I'll happily take your cash in a bet if you disagree!!

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6 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Cortese or not Pochettino would have been out the door as soon as a big club came calling. The Cortese thing just gave him a convenient excuse that some Saints fans still lap up to this day.

This. And he'd do it again if hypothetically he were to come back (which he won't). 

Also he's an ok manager who is greatly overrated by many (including by himself). Won a one horse race with a billion pound squad in France, and been sacked twice.

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

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We gave away a two goal lead FOUR times in a season and in Poch's only full season in charge, all but one of our wins were "to nil". The only one that wasn't was a 4-2 win against Norwich which we were 3-0 up, let them back to 3-2 and then only got the fourth because Norwich were throwing everything forward.

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5 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

We gave away a two goal lead FOUR times in a season and in Poch's only full season in charge, all but one of our wins were "to nil". The only one that wasn't was a 4-2 win against Norwich which we were 3-0 up, let them back to 3-2 and then only got the fourth because Norwich were throwing everything forward.

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He recently turned down Nice who are a much more attractive proposition than us right now (owner, players, location). He's clearly holding out for a top job in Italy or Spain as there doesnt seem to be any top 6 jobs becoming available in the PL anytime soon, although Villa apparently interested

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When Pochettino joined SFC he was out of work having been sacked by Espanyol. That’s why a lot of fans reacted negatively to binning Adkins, the replacement was unknown and underwhelming. Saints provided the stepping stone MP not the other way round, and not a glance over the shoulder when he was being shown round spurs training ground. Our next manager is more likely to have the same stock as Pochettino in 2013, no chance the 2022 version. 

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42 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Dennis Rofe back on the half time entertainment

No chance. It’s no surprise that Saints haven’t won anything since we got rid of the hilarious Mike Osman from his fantastically funny half time set. Now them were the days.

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8 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I preferred the Albion band myself.

Probably the best was the ‘thief’ who nearly got tackled by the on duty copy who didn’t realise he was part of the police dog show.

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