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1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Whatever way you look at it we really ballsed this up. He always had the talent to be a top player and we messed him around with a bit part role for ages. 

At least we're getting a good fee for him but it's karma that having to let him go now is significantly weakening us after we showed such little appreciation for his ability for so long.

Amazing how two people can see the situation completely oposite but I'm going to have to disagree entirely with that.

Two years ago he was as useless going forward as Djenny, Redmond and Moi, that's why we loaned him out. His touch was nowhere near good enough for the PL and his only goal came in a cup hammering of Newport, if I'm remembering correctly. He was loaned out because he wasn't good enough to play in the Premier League, simple as. If that upset him he has only himself to hold accountable. I wont say blame, it's a little harsh for a player who seems to try his best but ultimately he was approaching his mid twenties and was nowhere near the standard required. Did he elevate himself to that level with Burnley? Possibly but they clearly aren't serious about putting their money where their mouth is on that, aside from a bizarre poster campaign about Nelson Mandella.

If he leaves, it'll be with my best wishes wherever he goes. If it's Leverkusen I think it'll work out well for all three parties. He'll do well in Germany and we'll get £20m for a player we hoovered up on a free from Arsenal about five years ago, who never really made an impact. He'd have done a job this season but I can't see us missing him, we've more than enough wide quality as today's display showed and by most accounts we're looking to bring more in.

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Whitey Grandad

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1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Amazing how two people can see the situation completely oposite but I'm going to have to disagree entirely with that.

Two years ago he was as useless going forward as Djenny, Redmond and Moi, that's why we loaned him out. His touch was nowhere near good enough for the PL and his only goal came in a cup hammering of Newport, if I'm remembering correctly. He was loaned out because he wasn't good enough to play in the Premier League, simple as. If that upset him he has only himself to hold accountable. I wont say blame, it's a little harsh for a player who seems to try his best but ultimately he was approaching his mid twenties and was nowhere near the standard required. Did he elevate himself to that level with Burnley? Possibly but they clearly aren't serious about putting their money where their mouth is on that, aside from a bizarre poster campaign about Nelson Mandella.

If he leaves, it'll be with my best wishes wherever he goes. If it's Leverkusen I think it'll work out well for all three parties. He'll do well in Germany and we'll get £20m for a player we hoovered up on a free from Arsenal about five years ago, who never really made an impact. He'd have done a job this season but I can't see us missing him, we've more than enough wide quality as today's display showed and by most accounts we're looking to bring more in.

His only Premier League goal was in the 3-1 defeat of Fulham. 15-May-2021

https://www.premierleague.com/match/59254

And yes, good luck to him

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1 hour ago, SambaMaverick said:

Cannot begrudge him the move at all, good luck Nathan.

He showed flashes of talent when played under Ralph. Pace and some directness (compared to how otehrs were playing/ insructed to play). But not at the stage or execution that Ralph was looking for. Which is his decision to make.

The loan move worked out really well for him. When he left, no doubt a few wondered wht he'd be like with regular games. That's exactly what he got. I'd like to think that had we stayed in the Premier League, so would he. But I guess we'll not know. I'd have liked him to have stayed to help take us back up. He offers a nice, direct balance to the likes of Edozie on the other side. But we got as much as we were hoping for in the deal, hint of someone else coming in too.

I thought he'd been fine for us when playing this season. His contribution certainly helped towards our good start. A deal that suits all parties, except fans who wonder how good it would hav ebeen to have his goals added to the rest of our attack for the season. We'll see how good his replacement is.

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6 hours ago, SNSUN said:

If we hadn't, he'd have been a bit part player in a mess of a team that got relegated. The loan to Burnley has effectively nailed us £20 million odd when we would have got very little for him otherwise. I don't blame him for leaving for a team in the Bundesliga, I do think it's a shame we couldn't keep a valuable asset in our promotion push. I still hope we sign another first choice winger, even with Fraser on board, but with the numbers we have I don't see it.

Or he might have been the difference that kept us in the Prem.

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3 minutes ago, SWLondonSaint said:

In reality probably had 5 or less great games in a Saints shirt, so this one feels a little strange as it feels like it should be hurt more.

Hope we use the money effectively.

Interesting that they don't mention anything in the statement about using the funds. 

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We'd have never got £20m for him if he'd bimbled about in our Prem team last season, so sensational bit of business from that perspective.

And to be honest of all the positions he feels pretty replaceable, and Fraser alongside these youngsters we've got it covered. If Sulemana stays it's actually well covered.

Good luck to him.

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CB Fry

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7 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

What is this obsession over the money ?

Mention anything remotely about incoming fees "supporting the club" = let's beat the club with this stick

Don't mention anything about incoming fees "supporting the club" = let's beat the club with this stick

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A shame to see him go because he’s the sort of lad you like to have at your club, seems a really good guy and has an infectious energy. On a footballing level i’m not too disappointed - the loan worked out for everybody imo, I don’t think he’d have made a great difference to us last year, but it’s turned him into a £20mil player when we’d probably have been lucky to get £5mil for him last summer. It’s a great move for him, really glad he’s going there rather than Burnley. For me, SAA and Edozie are both more technically gifted, and have 4+ years each to get to the level of Tella overall and i’m confident they both will do. 

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Its a good move for him in all seriousness. He's probably not quite got it all there (yet) to excel at the premier league's level, but a move to the Bundesliga is situated nicely between the prem and the champ ability wise. Plus he'll get European football over a few seasons i'd expect. Good luck to him.

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48 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

A shame to see him go because he’s the sort of lad you like to have at your club, seems a really good guy and has an infectious energy. On a footballing level i’m not too disappointed - the loan worked out for everybody imo, I don’t think he’d have made a great difference to us last year, but it’s turned him into a £20mil player when we’d probably have been lucky to get £5mil for him last summer. It’s a great move for him, really glad he’s going there rather than Burnley. For me, SAA and Edozie are both more technically gifted, and have 4+ years each to get to the level of Tella overall and i’m confident they both will do. 

Sums it up for me about him leaving.

But although SAA and Edozie may have greater potential longer term for this season, neither ( or both combined) look to offer the same goal threat as Tella might have. 

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5 minutes ago, Badger said:

Sums it up for me about him leaving.

But although SAA and Edozie may have greater potential longer term for this season, neither ( or both combined) look to offer the same goal threat as Tella might have. 

Edozie is just finding his shooting boots. I reckon he'll get double figures and if we keep Sulemana he could easily hit 20.

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1 hour ago, benjii said:

Fraser is a better player, so who cares. Good luck, Nathan.

I’d love to share your optimism but Fraser’s had nowhere near as an explosive season as Tella did last term. It’s more impressive considering how old Tella is and he was showing all the signs of repeating it for us. It really should be two goals in three games.

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1 hour ago, Saint_clark said:

Edozie is just finding his shooting boots. I reckon he'll get double figures and if we keep Sulemana he could easily hit 20.

I hadn’t factored Sulemana into it only Edozie and SAA from the earlier post.

Not sure about Edozie finding goals this season, let’s hope he does. 

Sulemana agree he could be very useful to us this season if he stays and can be motivated to play in the Championship as he did against Liverpool. 

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27 minutes ago, niceandfriendly said:

Fraser definitely looks a decent player for this level, and Tella did seem to struggle to beat a man. Still, if we are serious about promotion we should have said no you’re staying here. We’ll miss his goal threat. 

I thought we tried to pigeon hole Tella as a wide player or winger whereas he seemed to have a freer role at Burnley last season. 


Would still have expected 15 plus goals from him this  season though.

As said before, good and exciting move for him. 

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8 minutes ago, wadesmith said:

Get relegated with 28 points...sell half of that team for £155 Million. This seems fundamentally wrong. 😂 

I know it was not the done thing to say this much of last season, under a proper manager we had enough in the squad to stay up. The Nathan Jones thing just killed it and we never recovered. Early on in the season, once we ditched the extremely weird 3-at-the-back, we looked alright (toothless, yes).

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1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I know it was not the done thing to say this much of last season, under a proper manager we had enough in the squad to stay up. The Nathan Jones thing just killed it and we never recovered. 

If Ralph was doing ok he wouldn’t have been sacked. Had Selles been ok he had enough games to keep us up. We had 3 substandard managers & substandard players, to blame just one bloke is bizarre. 

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4 hours ago, Badger said:

I thought we tried to pigeon hole Tella as a wide player or winger whereas he seemed to have a freer role at Burnley last season. 


Would still have expected 15 plus goals from him this  season though.

As said before, good and exciting move for him. 

Yep I was reading the Burnley forum after our first game against Wednesday and even though Tella "scored" (later given to AA) they were surprised he played so wide. It seems at Burnley he played more up top which was a more effective use of his pace. I do think he would have got goals this season, and by leaving I think he's passed up being first choice in a team that will be fighting for promotion but I can see why he did it, and I think we have been financially compensated rather well for it. The big question now is... can we bring in a replacement who will be as good (or better) and will potentially get as many (or more) goals? We will see.

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7 hours ago, saintwbu said:

A shame to see him go because he’s the sort of lad you like to have at your club, seems a really good guy and has an infectious energy. On a footballing level i’m not too disappointed - the loan worked out for everybody imo, I don’t think he’d have made a great difference to us last year, but it’s turned him into a £20mil player when we’d probably have been lucky to get £5mil for him last summer. It’s a great move for him, really glad he’s going there rather than Burnley. For me, SAA and Edozie are both more technically gifted, and have 4+ years each to get to the level of Tella overall and i’m confident they both will do. 

Pretty much this. Hasn’t pulled up any trees this season, and SAA and Edozie have more potential. Seems like a nice kid though - hope he does well. 

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39 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

If Ralph was doing ok he wouldn’t have been sacked. Had Selles been ok he had enough games to keep us up. We had 3 substandard managers & substandard players, to blame just one bloke is bizarre. 

We would have finished above Everton if we stuck with Ralph.

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