Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) A very poor morning for Hants so far. Awful bowling, poor field placement and another relatively straightforward chance dropped. No doubt the constant change of format between T20 and Championship doesn't really help. Edited 11 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 Is the pitch totally flat or are Hampshire bowling filth ? Can’t tell but it looks like they hit 50 runs for the last batting point with 9 down in about 4 overs…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 Two 19 yr olds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hodgey said: Is the pitch totally flat or are Hampshire bowling filth ? Can’t tell but it looks like they hit 50 runs for the last batting point with 9 down in about 4 overs…. Haven't watched for a while because the Tour is interesting today. But earlier on our bowling was desperately bad. No pace, no variation, just straight up and down waiting to be hit, Fuller was just painful to watch. Dawson plugged away but got nothing, organ seems to have bowled a few overs late on but is getting hit . Perhaps Holland was a better option than him. Hampshire will no doubt produce a batting debacle again and we'll lose by a shedload. Arses need to be kicked, the pitch looks flat and so do Hampshire. Edited 11 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 500 all out - mountain to climb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2023 1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said: 500 all out - mountain to climb. And Weatherley gets bowled first ball of the innings. Got nowhere near a dobby seam ball. Hants are a T20 side and nothing more, won't be until they get us a real opener, but I guess they don't come cheap so we won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2023 41/2 and off for rain again. I suppose we can hope for one of two things here, a 300 partnership between Vince and Gubbins or two days of wind, rain and wuthering. All other outcomes would suggest an innings defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 11 July, 2023 Share Posted 11 July, 2023 We are 3rd in the League before this match. Hardly just a T20 side! We have looked to bring in experience at the top order but as said, they do not come cheap. We looked at an overseas player that would have been ideal as he hates giving his wicket away and would likely have come but he wants so much more than our present overseas players and is too expensive. there is an English player that we also feel would come to us but we cannot match his existing salary by a lot! As the information came from the top I am not able to name names and at least one is still under contract with another county 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 11 July, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Weston Saint said: We are 3rd in the League before this match. Hardly just a T20 side! We have looked to bring in experience at the top order but as said, they do not come cheap. We looked at an overseas player that would have been ideal as he hates giving his wicket away and would likely have come but he wants so much more than our present overseas players and is too expensive. there is an English player that we also feel would come to us but we cannot match his existing salary by a lot! As the information came from the top I am not able to name names and at least one is still under contract with another county Third, right ! But that's a false position isn't it because some sides have played less games. Unless we can pull off some miracle and get a draw here,Somerset and Warks will go above us and Lancs have a game less as well. We have royally screwed up on the batting line up once again and the ability of the bowlers to dig us out of trouble agaiinst good sides is waning. We'll finish 5th or 6th this time round, no great disaster but it will come about next season if we don't get some real batters at the top of the order and some younger bowlers into the side. Abbas looks hacked off most of the time and Barker isn't cutting it any more. We also need to put an end to dropping soft catches, cost us a lot in this game and against Lancs. Edited 11 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Knock off the joke batting chaps ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Think we are looking to sat and wanting some extra time off by the way we are batting today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 12 July, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Think we are looking to sat and wanting some extra time off by the way we are batting today Nah, they're just shite at batting. I mean Vince, when will he learn not to waft at balls a foot outside off? And Dawson, a slog sweep to deep midwicket. They know they're in the also rans for the CC this season and can't be arsed to bat properly. I'd drop them all for the next championship game. Edited 12 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 It does feel like they have given up here - knowing they can’t win the game - interesting that they are continuing the win or lose trend rather that try for a draw. This looks like zero batting points yet again which isn’t too clever - especially as they didn’t get full bowling points. Really can’t use the T20 excuse - Somerset are in the exact same boat and only 3 of the players here will be involved. This batting issue has gone on far too long, was an issue last season too. We do need to be careful as the bowlers are ageing and struggle once wickets are worn in / sun is shining. Hopefully the likes of Turner and Currie will break through, plus Prest and Albert. Not sure you can realistically look to win a championship with only 4 specialist batsmen (one of those being very suspect, another being a rookie) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 23 hours ago, Hodgey said: Is the pitch totally flat or are Hampshire bowling filth ? Can’t tell but it looks like they hit 50 runs for the last batting point with 9 down in about 4 overs…. 20 minutes ago, Hodgey said: It does feel like they have given up here - knowing they can’t win the game - interesting that they are continuing the win or lose trend rather that try for a draw. This looks like zero batting points yet again which isn’t too clever - especially as they didn’t get full bowling points. Really can’t use the T20 excuse - Somerset are in the exact same boat and only 3 of the players here will be involved. This batting issue has gone on far too long, was an issue last season too. We do need to be careful as the bowlers are ageing and struggle once wickets are worn in / sun is shining. Hopefully the likes of Turner and Currie will break through, plus Prest and Albert. Not sure you can realistically look to win a championship with only 4 specialist batsmen (one of those being very suspect, another being a rookie) Hants got 3 bowling points and Somerset 4 batting points. The cutoff is 110 overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Watson Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 How do Birell and White stay in their jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 5 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said: How do Birell and White stay in their jobs? What are the expectations of the management Board of the club ? Maybe we are performing to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 22 hours ago, Weston Saint said: We looked at an overseas player that would have been ideal as he hates giving his wicket away and would likely have come but he wants so much more than our present overseas players and is too expensive. there is an English player that we also feel would come to us but we cannot match his existing salary by a lot! There is a salary cap across the entire county game, and it's the same number for every county. Surrey seem to have a squad of about 50 players with huge depth, especially among the bowlers, and yet our depth is more or less non-existent - to the extent that the current first-choice openers wouldn't be 5th choice at the Oval, even with Rory Burns averaging about 10 this season - so if we have a much smaller group of players then that should mean that we can afford to pay the bigger salaries for the better players. Unless of course we've already committed big money to the mediocre players that are already there. We've completely wasted this season and last with the best bowling attack we've had in my lifetime because we don't have enough quality batsmen. It's pretty incredible that we came as close as we did last year when we were pissing around with an opening pair from Weatherley, Organ and Holland. Middleton looks like he has something about him, but he's a kid who we shouldn't have to solely rely on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 No doubt we've been a massive success in T20, which is ultimately what brings the cash into the county, but there shouldn't be a need to prioritise one over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Abbott and Organ doing the job, 2 batting points acquired now and only 50 more to avoid an eventual follow on. Ball change coming up, we'll probably be all out soon then. Ball only 12 overs old, useless object these Kookaburras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Follow on enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 12 July, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Follow on enforced. Right, we can't win this but with some sensible batting we can get a draw and 10 points, that will keep Somerset behind us in the league. So what we do not want to see here is: Wafting outside off stump, slog sweeping,iffy runs leading to run-outs, getting caught down the leg side chasing balls that should be left alone. Should be alright if we do that. Hah, Abbott opening. Edited 12 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 1 minute ago, Window Cleaner said: So what we do not want to see here is: Wafting outside off stump, slog sweeping,iffy runs leading to run-outs, getting caught down the leg side chasing balls that should be left alone. You expect them to change the habits of a season mid match ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Kyle Abbott opening ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 Can Abbott claim that as his first century ? Worcester's last wicket pair put on over 60 against the Yorkies, and now they are following on Worcester have sent them back out as dual nightwatchmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 If anything sums up our batting in county cricket, it’s sending Abbott out to open, not that it really matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: If anything sums up our batting in county cricket, it’s sending Abbott out to open, not that it really matters now. Presumably he was sent out to 'protect' Weatherley 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 July, 2023 Share Posted 12 July, 2023 34 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Presumably he was sent out to 'protect' Weatherley 😞 Well that didn't work out very well. A grand total of one run in his two innings. Didn't he average about 10 last season? How long before they decide he's never going to make it in red ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Why not just concede and get back on the team bus ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 30 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Why not just concede and get back on the team bus ? Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Absolutely clueless. Gubbins sticking around, Brown as well until he committed one of Hampshire's peche mignons, chasing a nothing ball down the leg side. Probably all wishing they'd signed on for the lastest franchise extravaganza. I see that Sams has gone there, won't be playing for Essex on Saturday then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 4 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: Absolutely clueless. Gubbins sticking around, Brown as well until he committed one of Hampshire's peche mignons, chasing a nothing ball down the leg side. Probably all wishing they'd signed on for the lastest franchise extravaganza. I see that Sams has gone there, won't be playing for Essex on Saturday then. Roy as well - so won’t be playing for Surrey. anyway who’s going to edgebaston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2023 13 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Roy as well - so won’t be playing for Surrey. Narine too I think. Not much loyalty being shown by these franchise mercenaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 4 hours ago, badgerx16 said: Why not just concede and get back on the team bus ? They're still hanging on in there at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Didn’t think we were getting anything from that but Gubbins and Dawson have seen it out 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Good draw. At least Brown, Gubbins and Dawson stepped up. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Vince quit 4 day cricket next season. doesn't look capable of getting his head down and slugging it out any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Watson Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Magnificent from Gubbins and Dawson,not sure the team as a whole deserved a draw though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said: Magnificent from Gubbins and Dawson,not sure the team as a whole deserved a draw though. Some of them surely, but there were valuable contributions from at least half of the team over the match. At least three dreadful performances though, Weatherley, Fuller and dare I say it, Vince. Nothing much from Barker or Abbas either. Edited 13 July, 2023 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 1 hour ago, Window Cleaner said: Good draw. At least Brown, Gubbins and Dawson stepped up. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Vince quit 4 day cricket next season. doesn't look capable of getting his head down and slugging it out any more. Vince is 4th highest run scorer in division with average of 57.87. Hardly a failure. I sit with his father during matches. I also spend time with the chairman. He is focused. An excellent captain. Main problem is lack of good openers to take the new ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 13 July, 2023 Share Posted 13 July, 2023 Good on them for fighting out a draw, would have been easy to throw the towel. Dawson is having another good season, bowlers not on it this match but you can’t blame them for that given how many games they have carried us. Another frustrating season as in reality we were only a couple of quality batsmen short of being possibly double champions - think that time has passed as there’ll be chinks in the bowling shortly. Onwards to the t20 - looking fwd to that, and hopefully the one day comp will give the young players more exposure and chance to break into the first (recall that Turner had a good run in it last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 14 July, 2023 9 hours ago, Hodgey said: Good on them for fighting out a draw, would have been easy to throw the towel. Dawson is having another good season, bowlers not on it this match but you can’t blame them for that given how many games they have carried us. Another frustrating season as in reality we were only a couple of quality batsmen short of being possibly double champions - think that time has passed as there’ll be chinks in the bowling shortly. Onwards to the t20 - looking fwd to that, and hopefully the one day comp will give the young players more exposure and chance to break into the first (recall that Turner had a good run in it last year) There are still two 4 day games before the One Day Cup, three if you count the game against Dorset at the end of the month. Notts next week and then Essex the week after. Going back to the game that finished yesterday, I just can't help feeling that the turning point was the drop of Aldridge on 8. That taken they were 6 for about a hundred down and on the ropes with the tail exposed to bowlers who weren't yet worn down. Take that simple waste high sitter and we'd probably have been in with a chance of a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2023 Share Posted 14 July, 2023 20 minutes ago, Window Cleaner said: There are still two 4 day games before the One Day Cup, three if you count the game against Dorset at the end of the month. Notts next week and then Essex the week after. Going back to the game that finished yesterday, I just can't help feeling that the turning point was the drop of Aldridge on 8. That taken they were 6 for about a hundred down and on the ropes with the tail exposed to bowlers who weren't yet worn down. Take that simple waste high sitter and we'd probably have been in with a chance of a win. Dare I say it ….. catches win……..I’ll let you fill in the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 14 July, 2023 Share Posted 14 July, 2023 It's disappointing that players couldn't postpone starting in the US tournament in order to play finals day... Albeit Hants aren't affected so suppose it helps us. I wonder if Vince was approached to play in it? Weather looks shocking at edgbaston tomorrow so it's a good bet the games will be played on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 14 July, 2023 Share Posted 14 July, 2023 3 minutes ago, Barsiem said: It's disappointing that players couldn't postpone starting in the US tournament in order to play finals day... Albeit Hants aren't affected so suppose it helps us. I wonder if Vince was approached to play in it? Weather looks shocking at edgbaston tomorrow so it's a good bet the games will be played on Sunday Sams at least will be at finals day. If McDermott is still injured could Hants rope in another overseas player? Any batter/wk available? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 09:36, Picard said: Sams at least will be at finals day. If McDermott is still injured could Hants rope in another overseas player? Any batter/wk available? Evidently not, Donald has a broken finger and Brown has been added to the group in case McDermott isn't able to play. OS doesn't say how likely or unlikey that is though. Weather forecast isn't great for either day really. A bit better tomorrow perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2023 Usual line up so McDermott fit. Lost toss and are put in. That's a bummer if there's a likelyhood of a rain shortened game., especially with the batting powerhouses they have. We'll probably win if the game goes the distance but if it's reduced overs we'll have little chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 15 July, 2023 Share Posted 15 July, 2023 They need to do something about reduced games - far too much advantage for the chasers. Looks like Hampshire know it may be reduced so going hard at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2023 Not messing about. Obviously concious of possible shortened innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 July, 2023 Author Share Posted 15 July, 2023 McDermott and Vince both gone now. Probably done for, not enough explosive batting left to make a decent score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 15 July, 2023 Share Posted 15 July, 2023 Yeah this is a problem as next 3 in are striikerate of just over 1 a ball, Got to hope for fireworks from Fuller or Howell. Maybe Whitely might do something ? He’s capable just horribly out of form. These 2 in now need to pick the pace up though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 July, 2023 Share Posted 15 July, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 08:36, Picard said: Sams at least will be at finals day. Good job for Hants he played - 49 conceded off his 4 overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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