Hampshire CCC 2023

[Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan]

We should look at any English batters in Div 2 who might want the step up to start getting their name in the ring for England contention. Someone like Rishi Patel at Leicestershire would certainly help

[Lighthouse]

Four wickets polished off in half an hour for a pretty comfortable win, although I doubt Surrey had any intention of plugging away at a steady 2/3 rpo to try and win that. Probably more interested in getting away before the traffic on the M3.

You have to say that's another excellent season all things considered, even if we were never really in the CC fight.

[Barsiem]

Irritatingly the points we scored last year in the CC (224) would have been enough to win it this year!  Batting points across the board are down massively (Surrey for example scored 27 this year Vs 48 last) so definitely a year for the bowlers, even with the changes to batting bonus points this season

Another good season overall.  Shame we couldn't nab a cup and be a bit closer in the championship

[Andrew Watson]

Terrific season overall,real shame our batting again cost us any chance of winning the championship.

[Window Cleaner]

So the points deduction cost us second place in the end.  Even for a match that we lost.

Do Essex ever get points deductions for the turnip patches that they turn out to favour their spinner?

Anyway good end to the season.

Edited 29 September, 2023 by Window Cleaner

[Andrew Watson]

Your being silly WC,when have Essex or Surrey ever been penalised by the ECB.  The RFU and ECB have always had their favourites and always will. Perhaps now the brilliant Rod Bransgrove has gone,Hampshire will be seen in a different light.

[Weston Saint]

2 hours ago, Window Cleaner said:

So the points deduction cost us second place in the end.  Even for a match that we lost.

Do Essex ever get points deductions for the turnip patches that they turn out to favour their spinner?

Anyway good end to the season.

No. we finished 4 points behind Essex after the 3 point deduction.   

[Window Cleaner]

1 hour ago, Weston Saint said:

No. we finished 4 points behind Essex after the 3 point deduction.   

Ah the cricinfo table isn't accurate then.

[Lighthouse]

Nye Donald confirmed as our first departure, they've cancelled the last year of his contract to join Derbs. Can't say I'm particularly upset or surprised, he hasn't really pulled up any trees in the last couple of years.

[Andrew Watson]

Very sorry to see him go,if only he could have tempered his attacking instincts,there is a very talented player there.

[Lighthouse]

If we’re going overseas, I’ll have those two Afghan openers.

[Barsiem]

I missed the news that Turner has been awarded a development contract with England

https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/hampshire-paceman-john-turner-awarded-england-development-contract/

[Barsiem]

Whiteley departs!  A cracking player on his day but he was pretty awful last season.  Hopefully frees up some budget to improve the red ball squad

https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/ross-whiteley-leaves-hampshire-to-rejoin-derbyshire/

[Lighthouse]

18 hours ago, Barsiem said:

Whiteley departs!  A cracking player on his day but he was pretty awful last season.  Hopefully frees up some budget to improve the red ball squad

https://www.ageasbowl.com/cricket/news/ross-whiteley-leaves-hampshire-to-rejoin-derbyshire/

I’d agree with that. Also the third oldest player in a squad with quite a lot of 33 plus players. We’ve got to be looking at a red ball batter, with those two departures.

[Hodgey]

Hard to say how much of Turner we will lose to England, but we definitely need a red ball batter - clear weak spot last season.

[Weston Saint]

Difficult situation for batting line up.

We cannot go for an overseas player because we have Abbott and Abbas in final year of their contract for 2024

We have experienced batsmen in Vince, Dawson and Brown who may only have a few years left so we need to look long term to deal with that.

We have good prospects in Middleton, Albert and Prest and that is why they have been featuring this past year. If we push a new batsman in place of any of them it is going to cost a large sum in wages, something the club cannot sustain whilst others are still on the books.  Organ, Crane, Weatherly and Holland have contracts until the end of 2024 season.

I think we are going to have to muddle through next season in the Championship to give the youngsters another year experience, providing the club think they have a future. We still  have a great bowling attack in Abbott, Abbas and Barker to get us out of trouble during the season so we should stay comfortably in Division 1  

[Weston Saint]

Update but only a rumour so far that Alistair Orr, Sussex Wicket Keeper and upper order Batsman may be joining us. I stress it is only a rumour from a Sussex message board at this stage. 

[Barsiem]

8 hours ago, Weston Saint said:

Update but only a rumour so far that Alistair Orr, Sussex Wicket Keeper and upper order Batsman may be joining us. I stress it is only a rumour from a Sussex message board at this stage. 

Sounds promising - he scored 1000 runs in div 2 last season.  Can't see him being WK over Brown though so wonder how key that would be to him

[Toadhall Saint]

Turner picked for England white ball tour of the Caribbean 

[Weston Saint]

The Cricketer now reporting "Hampshire set to sign Sussex opener Ali Orr" 

Now confirmed by Hampshire.

 

Edited 20 November, 2023 by Weston Saint
update

[Lighthouse]

Looks a decent signing on the face of it; a decent, three format batter who can open in the County games. I wonder if he'll open the Blast with McD or just replace Whiteley in the middle order.

[Hodgey]

Hopefully he is that missing opener we have been crying out for !

[Andrew Watson]

Good luck with your Hampshire career Ali Orr.

[Barsiem]

Link to story for those interested 

 

21 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Looks a decent signing on the face of it; a decent, three format batter who can open in the County games. I wonder if he'll open the Blast with McD or just replace Whiteley in the middle order.

Hope not.  Vince is best opening, and is our best T20 player imo

 

 

[Barsiem]

Fcuk me... Just seen Surrey have signed Dan Lawrence now!  How do they afford all these players!!

[Gloucester Saint]

On 20/11/2023 at 12:03, Weston Saint said:

The Cricketer now reporting "Hampshire set to sign Sussex opener Ali Orr" 

Now confirmed by Hampshire.

 

Looks a good signing. Has certainly caused some political stench behind the scenes at an already unhappy Sussex https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/67484747

[Barsiem]

https://web.archive.org/web/20231122125206/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2023/11/21/ali-orr-sussex-hampshire-transfer-county-cricket-rob-andrew/

More info here, including that we paid Sussex compensation.  I guess it must happen when players are under contract but I've rarely, if ever, heard it spoken about.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, Barsiem said:

https://web.archive.org/web/20231122125206/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2023/11/21/ali-orr-sussex-hampshire-transfer-county-cricket-rob-andrew/

More info here, including that we paid Sussex compensation.  I guess it must happen when players are under contract but I've rarely, if ever, heard it spoken about.

Chairman Jon Filby ‘Sussex Cricket has never been a healthier place than it is now’. Ouch, and we thought Semmens and Ankerson came out with some total crap at times. Rob Andrew a great rugby player but controversial figure at Sussex, although difficult with their small ground at Hove to generate the income to compete with Hants, Lancs, Surrey, Warwickshire, Notts et al. Competing with Somerset, Durham if they get back up probably their best bet but those clubs get ODIs and T20s every year. 

Good signing on paper on Hampshire in an area needing strengthening. Will be a big jump in the quality of bowling faces in D1 but looking forward to seeing him in action. Middleton, Orr, Weatherley, Vince, Prest, Dawson, Brown, Albert and Currie if they kick on. Not bad. Organ needs to find some consistency against the moving ball to keep the pressure on.

Essex probably the model for Sussex but different catchment for players and bigger name.

On compensation, that’s been going on for a while when contracts run down. Worcs lost Josh Tongue to Notts before the end of his contract.

 

Edited 22 November, 2023 by Gloucester Saint