The 'New Manager' thread

[richardc]

15 minutes ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said:

Would work wouldn’t it:

Bazunu

KWP-ABK-Salisu-Perraud

Lavia

JWP S.Armstrong

Aribo

Adams A.Armstrong

Basically what we have already but pushes the Armstrong up top alongside Adams, brings Aribo more central and Lavia sits deeper

actually looks like a hybrid of what we’ve played at times this season, and some of the better performances we’ve had from the current squad

gives JWP another option to pass back to as well

[Chez]

9 minutes ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said:

Would work wouldn’t it:

Bazunu

KWP-ABK-Salisu-Perraud

Lavia

JWP S.Armstrong

Aribo

Adams A.Armstrong

Basically what we have already but pushes the Armstrong up top alongside Adams, brings Aribo more central and Lavia sits deeper

actually looks like a hybrid of what we’ve played at times this season, and some of the better performances we’ve had from the current squad

Hmm. No matter the formation we look horrible.  

[CB Fry]

10 minutes ago, Chez said:

Hmm. No matter the formation we look horrible.  

9/10 transfer window it was. 9/10.

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

9/10 transfer window it was. 9/10.

That certainly wasn't my assessment, but we are where we are. All that matters is what we do from here.

[Chez]

37 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

OK watched first half and that’s enough for me. Luton busy, aggressive and like to press. Also very direct, lots of aimless balls forward and not much quality. Meh

63% possession. Total domination, but they don't loo like scoring. 

Smallbone a total non entity in midfield. No change there.

[SaintZamboni]

From what I’ve read Jones ’success has come from a 3 at the back with wing back/wingers and a diamond. I think it could suit us as the holding midfielder doesn’t press and just sits. Less chance of getting torn through as we have done with Hassenhuttl.

I’d anticipate we might see

               Bazunu

     ABK.  DCC.   Salisu

KWP.                       Perraud

          Maitland Niles

        JWP.           Lavia

             Armstrong 

      Adams.      Armstrong 

Dont know if these have been posted already but here they are just in case:

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/luton-town-2021-22-nathan-jones-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
 

https://themastermindsite.com/2022/04/29/nathan-jones-luton-town-tactical-analysis/

[SambaMaverick]

We really do have an awful squad. How have we spent tens of millions and gone backwards

[Charlie Wayman]

1 minute ago, SaintZamboni said:

From what I’ve read Jones ’success has come from a 3 at the back with wing back/wingers and a diamond. I think it could suit us as the holding midfielder doesn’t press and just sits. Less chance of getting torn through as we have done with Hassenhuttl.

I’d anticipate we might see

               Bazunu

     ABK.  DCC.   Salisu

KWP.                       Perraud

          Maitland Niles

        JWP.           Lavia

             Armstrong 

      Adams.      Armstrong 

Dont know if these have been posted already but here they are just in case:

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/luton-town-2021-22-nathan-jones-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
 

https://themastermindsite.com/2022/04/29/nathan-jones-luton-town-tactical-analysis/

Handy to have 12 players as well. Let's hope the ref doesn't notice.

[Dellman]

1 minute ago, SaintZamboni said:

From what I’ve read Jones ’success has come from a 3 at the back with wing back/wingers and a diamond. I think it could suit us as the holding midfielder doesn’t press and just sits. Less chance of getting torn through as we have done with Hassenhuttl.

I’d anticipate we might see

               Bazunu

     ABK.  DCC.   Salisu

KWP.                       Perraud

          Maitland Niles

        JWP.           Lavia

             Armstrong 

      Adams.      Armstrong 

Dont know if these have been posted already but here they are just in case:

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/luton-town-2021-22-nathan-jones-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
 

https://themastermindsite.com/2022/04/29/nathan-jones-luton-town-tactical-analysis/

Twelve may help but lets add a few more

[Lighthouse]

8 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

We really do have an awful squad. How have we spent tens of millions and gone backwards

Because everyone else has spent hundreds of millions to tread water.

[Pilchards]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Really? First time I’ve heard that one and I had quite a few connections at the club at the time. Either way I know the players used to openly take the piss out of him and he had zero respect. 

Used to be called ‘The Fat Wanker.’ By Beats, Kents and Fitzy (They were their nicknames)

Not liked at all as he would sometimes take training with egg stains on his shirt.

Often used to eat in his own office as he was disliked that much!

Edited 8 November, 2022 by Pilchards

[SaintZamboni]

10 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Handy to have 12 players as well. Let's hope the ref doesn't notice.

Yep. My bad! Ignore Armstrong behind the front two

[Lighthouse]

23 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

9/10 transfer window it was. 9/10.

I’ll hold my hands up to having said that and yes, I was wrong. I was hoping we’d see more from Mara and Aribo in particular, in attacking positions.

What I will say is that I don’t think we could have bought an awful lot more for £70m and we had to offload a lot of players from the wage bill just to spend that.

[Colinjb]

Luton dominating possession, shots and set pieces. Losing 2-0.

Nathan Jones will fit in fine here.

[Maggie May]

8 minutes ago, SaintZamboni said:

Yep. My bad! Ignore Armstrong behind the front two

Your team really highlights what a shocking decision it was not to buy a striker. Absolutely zero threat.

[Nemi]

32 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

9/10 transfer window it was. 9/10.

Wtf they were playing at spending all summer trying to sign Delap - judging by tonight's game (and his scoring record this season) he can't hack the Championship, let alone being a marquee signing for a PL club. SR fast becoming a bigger shambles than we were under Gao.

[Archers Road Stand]

27 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

We really do have an awful squad. How have we spent tens of millions and gone backwards

Because we went for quantity over quality. 

[sadoldgit]

3 minutes ago, Nemi said:

Wtf they were playing at spending all summer trying to sign Delap - judging by tonight's game (and his scoring record this season) he can't hack the Championship, let alone being a marquee signing for a PL club. SR fast becoming a bigger shambles than we were under Gao.

He had one good shot but other than that looked like a poor man’s Sam Gallagher. Poor match overall but Stoke looked the better team. Luton worked hard but lacked any quality anywhere. They had a couple of chances that were finished in Che’esque style. Okay, it was only one match and perhaps it doesn’t reflect the way Luton usually play, but there was certainly no sign there of anything to get excited about from our prospective new manager. Watching him chew his fingers was not a good sign. As has been said, if he does come here his arms will be stumps by the Spring.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

He had one good shot but other than that looked like a poor man’s Sam Gallagher. Poor match overall but Stoke looked the better team. Luton worked hard but lacked any quality anywhere. They had a couple of chances that were finished in Che’esque style. Okay, it was only one match and perhaps it doesn’t reflect the way Luton usually play, but there was certainly no sign there of anything to get excited about from our prospective new manager. Watching him chew his fingers was not a good sign. As has been said, if he does come here his arms will be stumps by the Spring.

Did anyone catch his reaction to the Luton fans after the game? The coverage on Sky finished before he walked to the fans 

[HarvSFC]

Just to note, Stoke were 19th going into tonight, so it would have been a match Luton would have been expected to win despite the stature of the two clubs. May have also been why Luton dominated possession, etc.

[Killers Knee]

Did 'Mad Nate' do a post-match interview?  Did he mention it was his last game, any speculation over the move?  The upside to Mad Nate is. we'll not have an excuse. like "he's not ready for our system",  as it's pretty much pub football, lump it to the big guy.  We have the players to do it, no need for a transfer budget, the only question is can Mad Nate take the stress of the premiership?  Hopefully, there is a padded room in Staplewood.

[verlaine1979]

Has anyone ever tried to play long ball to a 5'9 target man who can only win and control the ball with his chest?

[Saint_lambden]

Jones confirmed on BBC Three Counties radio that he's going to speak to Saints tomorrow (Weds) but did not go as far committing that he's definitely joining. Said it's "not a done deal". Claims he's had 8 offers from other clubs since he re-joined Luton. Saints have been respectful to wait until after their game tonight to speak to him formally. 

 

Edited 8 November, 2022 by Saint_lambden

[Chez]

26 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Just to note, Stoke were 19th going into tonight, so it would have been a match Luton would have been expected to win despite the stature of the two clubs. May have also been why Luton dominated possession, etc.

Stoke were terrible. They won, but they were terrible. Luton dominated. They played a lot of longish stuff, but did pass it too. A decent mix. Their problem was they just didn't have any quality in the final third. Just like us. They had a couple of golden chances but the strikers fluffed them. No matter the level, if you can't score, you are fucked.

[hypochondriac]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

I’ll hold my hands up to having said that and yes, I was wrong. I was hoping we’d see more from Mara and Aribo in particular, in attacking positions.

What I will say is that I don’t think we could have bought an awful lot more for £70m and we had to offload a lot of players from the wage bill just to spend that.

I seem to remember you were openly mocking people like me who pointed out how ridiculous it was that we hadn't strengthened in attack sufficiently. 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Pilchards said:

Used to be called ‘The Fat Wanker.’ By Beats, Kents and Fitzy (They were their nicknames)

Not liked at all as he would sometimes take training with egg stains on his shirt.

Often used to eat in his own office as he was disliked that much!

Yeah like I said, overweight and scruffy and joke fights with the players. 

[ally_uk]

The more I read about Gallardo and the tactics, philosophy and style of play I reckon he is much better suited. 

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/marcelo-gallardo-river-plate-2022-tactical-analysis-tactics

 

Could be next Poch 

 

[modern matron]

This is so depressing! So Nathan Jones is the only person we are speaking to?????

Someone must be in the no enough to say that SR are at least approaching other candidates!!!!

I’ve tried to be positive but can’t keep up the charade, so please help me to feel a little better.

[a1ex2001]

12 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

The more I read about Gallardo and the tactics, philosophy and style of play I reckon he is much better suited. 

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/marcelo-gallardo-river-plate-2022-tactical-analysis-tactics

 

Could be next Poch 

 

Sadly he’s not coming here!

[aintforever]

4 minutes ago, modern matron said:

This is so depressing! So Nathan Jones is the only person we are speaking to?????

Someone must be in the no enough to say that SR are at least approaching other candidates!!!!

I’ve tried to be positive but can’t keep up the charade, so please help me to feel a little better.

Maybe when we speak to him we will just be asking him if he knows anyone who would be a decent Premier League manager?

[Verbal Kint]

Time will tell if he is capable of stepping up to the PL, but what I find quite depressing about this is that clearly our owners and CEO see him being a good fit because they view us as the Luton Town of the PL. That alone is very worrying. We obviously can't expect to compete with the top 7 or 8, but our history over the last 30 years suggests we should have expectations to be solid PL team, and not as some minnows who should just feel grateful to be here

[LGTL]

23 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

Jones confirmed on BBC Three Counties radio that he's going to speak to Saints tomorrow (Weds) but did not go as far committing that he's definitely joining. Said it's "not a done deal". Claims he's had 8 offers from other clubs since he re-joined Luton. Saints have been respectful to wait until after their game tonight to speak to him formally. 

 

Fingers crossed his car breaks down. 

[HarvSFC]

Says he's flattered to be linked with us and calls us a wonderful Premier League club. Semmens needs to drill it into him quick that we're plucky little underdogs who are lucky to be in the position we are. Side note, also smaller than Goztepe.

[Miltonaggro]

2 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Says he's flattered to be linked with us and calls us a wonderful Premier League club. Semmens needs to drill it into him quick that we're plucky little underdogs who are lucky to be in the position we are. Side note, also smaller than Goztepe.

Exudes urbane charisma and strategic nous. 

[MAY-Z]

Wonder what will happen if he doesn’t want the job?

[Dusic]

Of course he wants it, and Saints (Ankersen) obviously want to appoint him.

Once that happens good luck to him, lets hope he smashes it!

Will need to hit the ground running and be suported in the transfer market in January.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

I really don't like him, and that's coming from someone who was born in Luton and held a season ticket there in the past. For a start, he's Welsh, which is never good in my book. 😉

FFS Saints, please DO NOT employ muppet.

[hypochondriac]

Really hope he does well but it's a hell of a risk. Given the position we are in, we can't really give him time to settle. He needs to have a positive impact immediately. My gut feeling is this won't work. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

[Miltonaggro]

19 minutes ago, MAY-Z said:

Wonder what will happen if he doesn’t want the job?

Back on the trolleys at Asda Pontypridd when Luton lose patience. 

[danjosaint]

55 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

The more I read about Gallardo and the tactics, philosophy and style of play I reckon he is much better suited. 

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/article/marcelo-gallardo-river-plate-2022-tactical-analysis-tactics

 

Could be next Poch 

 

Like that

[Saint Garrett]

1 hour ago, Nemi said:

Wtf they were playing at spending all summer trying to sign Delap - judging by tonight's game (and his scoring record this season) he can't hack the Championship, let alone being a marquee signing for a PL club. SR fast becoming a bigger shambles than we were under Gao.

They didn’t. 

[MarkSFC]

38 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

I really don't like him, and that's coming from someone who was born in Luton and held a season ticket there in the past. For a start, he's Welsh, which is never good in my book. 😉

FFS Saints, please DO NOT employ muppet.

You may be right. But very few listen to you 🤣

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I seem to remember you were openly mocking people like me who pointed out how ridiculous it was that we hadn't strengthened in attack sufficiently. 

No, I said it was ridiculous to say we hadn’t signed a striker when we obviously did. I never made any assertions about how good any of them were.

[Lighthouse]

2 hours ago, Nemi said:

Wtf they were playing at spending all summer trying to sign Delap - judging by tonight's game (and his scoring record this season) he can't hack the Championship, let alone being a marquee signing for a PL club. SR fast becoming a bigger shambles than we were under Gao.

That was all media talk and fake ITKs on Twitter. We may well have been interested and even made a couple of offers but by virtue of the fact that he’s not here and ended up in the Championship, we clearly didn’t think he was worth whatever City were asking.

As for being a ‘marquee signing’, it’s completely up to you how much you’ve hyped him in your own mind. The club made no such dramatisations.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Not got good vibes about this guy…think he’ll be crying to go back to his spiritual home Luton by Christmas.

[leeham_69]

3 hours ago, SaintZamboni said:

Dont know if these have been posted already but here they are just in case:

https://totalfootballanalysis.com/team-analysis/luton-town-2021-22-nathan-jones-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics
 

https://themastermindsite.com/2022/04/29/nathan-jones-luton-town-tactical-analysis/

In one of these articles it says this:

"

The world got a glimpse of Luton’s dogged determination and tremendous tenacity in their recent FA Cup bout against the European champions Chelsea. Despite falling to a late Romelu Lukaku strike, the Hatters fought tooth and nail for every ball, going toe-to-toe with the English giants and showing their quality as well as their tactical discipline."

Did anyone watch this game? Was there anything in it that could offer us a tiny sliver of optimism? I get that they just lost to Stoke but every team loses - if he has the ability to get a Championship team playing well against Chelsea may be there is just something positive about him being overlooked?

 

 

[skintsaint]

7 hours ago, Turkish said:

Results wise sturrock wasn’t a disaster

Apparently I thought I read his managerial career was one of the most successful in England when considering wages spent to results.

But loved an egg butty.

[OttawaSaint]

1 hour ago, skintsaint said:

Apparently I thought I read his managerial career was one of the most successful in England when considering wages spent to results.

But loved an egg butty.

There was a great 2-0 win vs Liverpool IIRC. Guy just liked a few too many pints before training..

Edited 9 November, 2022 by OttawaSaint

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Guy must liked a few too many pints before training..

Thought that was Burley allegedly ?

[Tamesaint]

2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Not got good vibes about this guy…think he’ll be crying to go back to his spiritual home Luton by Christmas.

Blimey. As the only match between Christmas and now is this Saturday at Liverpool for your prediction to be right we are going to take one helluva beating at Anfield.