Bad Wolf Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Thomas Frank? Literally the only person I'd realistically consider. Even Poch isn't tactically brilliant and I don't think he'd do much better here! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Why would he come here? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 1 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turkish said: Why would he come here? Money? Connection with the Chairman? Better facilities? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Bielsa. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Thomas Frank would not come here 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Thomas Frank would undoubtedly be at the top of the owners list of managers. Im not so sure he’d want to come here based on the last 6 months. I think we had a better chance of tempting him in the summer and we missed it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 (edited) Benitez if he’s up for it - the whole club needs a leader as it’s so anonymous, corporate, bland, lacking backbone and character. He would give some much needed profile and identity because it’s become a soulless club. SMS could be in the Midlands or Home Counties - Reading and MK are very similar to SFC post-2017. Saints have often been better with a big name in charge (Ronald, Hoddle, Lawrie became a big name). SR look very green and naive and Semmens is wilting because of his reliance on Ralph who has failed comprehensively. Rafa likes running a club and he can do that with Saints right now. Players would look up to him and standards would be demanded. Won’t be free flowing football but it isn’t anyway. The club effectively died as having any substance when Gao bought it. The odd twitch since but it’s been abysmal home form since then and since the away form has fallen away the club has become irrelevant as a footballing entity with any identity. Probably young players is the only one but that’s because they are cheap. The academy hasn’t produced anything since JWP/Shaw, a decade now, so any DNA gone there as well. Edited 1 October, 2022 by saint1977 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 I suppose it depends if you think Ralph is underachieving or not. If you do then Saints could be an attractive role for someone like Frank. But yeah he's got a good thing at Brentford so may well not touch us with a barge pole! We need a change though... Please go Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Most managers would be better right now surely. The problem is those with Premier League experience are either rubbish, boring or wouldn't be seen dead adding us to their CV. As long as Ralph goes, Selles can take charge for now. A quick look at free agent managers... Dejan Stankovic? Did well with Red Star Belgrade, Serbian like our owner, wouldn't cost anything, was a tasty player back in the day... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 (edited) I'd 100% take Rafa if he would come here. How Everton fans treated him was a disgrace. I'd also take Brendan Rodgers. Things have obviously got stale at Leicester but you can't overlook what he achieved with them before. Edited 1 October, 2022 by Pamplemousse 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamSaint Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 I cannot believe that SR have not been working on a possible Ralph replacement for if/when they pull the trigger. It could easily be that they have identified someone that we've never heard of. Who knew anything about de Zerbi before Brighton brought him in? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Jorge Sampaoli 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Bielsa. No thanks. He would be a downgrade on Ralph. Edited 1 October, 2022 by Pamplemousse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: I'd also take Brendan Rodgers. He could help build our Champions League potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Thomas Frank? Literally the only person I'd realistically consider. Even Poch isn't tactically brilliant and I don't think he'd do much better here! I'd rather we'd targeted Brentford's Director of Football, or Recruitment . Think it's Phil Giles. Poch, would at least have them motivated a busting lungs getting around the pitch. But that's irrelevant as there's no prospect of him being interested in us at our current level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 To be honest, who would get anything out of our squad at the moment. It's horrendously lacking in quality and cohesion. Was a fan of Ralph and think he is a decent guy, but enough is enough now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Diego Martinez for me. Plays attractive football and has never had much money to spend. Give him a 5 year Contract and stick with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 (edited) https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik Tuchel, Poch, Zidane above our remit. Personally, I’d like to see if we could tempt Kjetil Knutsen from Bodo/Glimt. Won the Norwegian league twice, decent campaign in Europe including beating Mourinho’s Roma 6-1. Might even spark Ely into life. Other point would be that Graham Potter also came from similar Swedish league Edited 1 October, 2022 by nta786 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Is it also possible that Selles will just step up if and when we get rid of Ralph? Not saying that's what i'd be happy with, but it may be what SR have planned whether it happens now or in the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 2 minutes ago, nta786 said: https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik Tuchel, Poch, Zidane above our remit. Personally, I’d like to see if we could tempt Kjetil Knutsen from Bodo/Glimt. Won the Norwegian league twice, decent campaign in Europe including beating Mourinho’s Roma 6-1. Might even spark Ely into life. Other point would be that Graham Potter also came from Norwegian league Potter came from Swedish League didn't he? I mentioned Knutsen a while back, seems like the type of manager who could do well with a young team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 1 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2022 44 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Bielsa. Why? Can't understand the fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 Ole is out of work Wonder if he is on our list of managers we track for ages and know who we want to bring in well before we need them honestly we do it just coincidence that they’re always unemployed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 4 minutes ago, The Cat said: Potter came from Swedish League didn't he? I mentioned Knutsen a while back, seems like the type of manager who could do well with a young team. Oh yes you’re right! As long as that mistake doesn’t get me cancelled for Nordic-ism! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 44 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Thomas Frank would undoubtedly be at the top of the owners list of managers. Im not so sure he’d want to come here based on the last 6 months. I think we had a better chance of tempting him in the summer and we missed it. We might be able to pinch Toney?..........thats the striker sorted ,but i think theres some sort of club manager agreement that you not allowed to pinch players in the first season ,i could be way off but hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 1 minute ago, Roo1976 said: We might be able to pinch Toney?..........thats the striker sorted ,but i think theres some sort of club manager agreement that you not allowed to pinch players in the first season ,i could be way off but hey. Should have enforced it to stop Redknapp pinching Quasie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Bielsa. I think a grasp of basic English is a must, something Bielsa didn't manage/couldn't be bothered with in four years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 I hardly believe I am saying this. But we are now a rescue job and Dyche might be the man to do it. I loathed what he did at Burnley. However he did get them organised and who knows, maybe with better players then better football will come - in the same way that Howard Wilkinson moved away from long ball football when he went from Sheffield Wednesday to Leeds. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 30 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said: I hardly believe I am saying this. But we are now a rescue job and Dyche might be the man to do it. I loathed what he did at Burnley. However he did get them organised and who knows, maybe with better players then better football will come - in the same way that Howard Wilkinson moved away from long ball football when he went from Sheffield Wednesday to Leeds. Don't think SR would even entertain the idea of someone like Sean Dyche. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 1 October, 2022 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2022 36 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said: I hardly believe I am saying this. But we are now a rescue job and Dyche might be the man to do it. I loathed what he did at Burnley. However he did get them organised and who knows, maybe with better players then better football will come - in the same way that Howard Wilkinson moved away from long ball football when he went from Sheffield Wednesday to Leeds. I find it amazing that anyone would prefer a style of football over results. But they pay their money and support the club like you or I do so each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 I really hope SR have been planning behind the scenes for a week or two to get the man they want. How long do you wait? The SR people are supposedly very reliant and led by data. How much more data do they need to see before they get him gone?!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Kenilworthy said: I hardly believe I am saying this. But we are now a rescue job and Dyche might be the man to do it. I loathed what he did at Burnley. However he did get them organised and who knows, maybe with better players then better football will come - in the same way that Howard Wilkinson moved away from long ball football when he went from Sheffield Wednesday to Leeds. It’s not going to Sean frigging Dyche. It’ll be some foreign manager none of us have heard of but the FM players and statsmen will know everything about as they’ll be the hipsters choice. I know palace haven’t started the season that well but there is a lot to admire about what they’ve done as a club. Viera is a great appointment and they’ve rebuilt an aging team into a young exciting one. They’ve had a really hard start to the season though already played city away, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Newcastle away. Edited 1 October, 2022 by Turkish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 With large numbers of saints fans shouting for players to get thr ball forward at the first opportunity, maybe Dyche is the answer?! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 6 minutes ago, warsash saint said: With large numbers of saints fans shouting for players to get thr ball forward at the first opportunity, maybe Dyche is the answer?! Get it forward! We do that now the trouble is it ends up going out for a goal kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 October, 2022 Share Posted 1 October, 2022 5 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Is it also possible that Selles will just step up if and when we get rid of Ralph? Not saying that's what i'd be happy with, but it may be what SR have planned whether it happens now or in the summer. I’d be concerned if it was. Selles has never been a first team manager. For all those who want Frank and point to him being assist at Brentford before stepping he’d been manager of Brondy for a few years and manager them in Europe although his record was unremarkable. To throw someone into the premier league with a handful of games as a first team coach might be out of the frying pan into the fire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Fastenbüttl Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 8 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: To be honest, who would get anything out of our squad at the moment. It's horrendously lacking in quality and cohesion. Was a fan of Ralph and think he is a decent guy, but enough is enough now. I honestly think there's plenty of talent in the squad, but it's drowning under Ralph. Poch would obviously be a dream appointment but it's never gonna happen. Ditto for Frank. I'd take Benitez for sure. I could see Stankovic happening, too. Hell, I'd take Selles right now tbh. Koeman's free at the moment, isn't he? For me Dyche, Bielsa, Ole and Rodgers are a big no thanks, although perhaps I'm being unfair with the latter as he's clearly had fantastic spells. I wouldn't be mad keen on Tuchel - Chelsea's attack completely died under him. Whiff of the Jose about him? I had a nightmare once that we re-appointed Mark Hughes and in his first presser he said he returned due to "unfinished business". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 6 hours ago, Turkish said: I’d be concerned if it was. Selles has never been a first team manager. For all those who want Frank and point to him being assist at Brentford before stepping he’d been manager of Brondy for a few years and manager them in Europe although his record was unremarkable. To throw someone into the premier league with a handful of games as a first team coach might be out of the frying pan into the fire I agree, alongside the Frank example there are many assistants who stepped up to be managers and utterly failed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 13 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: I'd 100% take Rafa if he would come here. How Everton fans treated him was a disgrace. I'd also take Brendan Rodgers. Things have obviously got stale at Leicester but you can't overlook what he achieved with them before. Rogers is an awful manager . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said: Rogers is an awful manager . Getting Leicester regularly into Europe and winning the FA Cup for them suggests otherwise. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 For those who have more knowledge than me, who in Europe has had a track record of developing young players? That'll be Ralph's eventual successor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Killers Knee said: Jorge Sampaoli This - been touting Sampaoli since his chile days when he did amazing things with Universidad - I think i did a big tactical post on here about him like 8yrs ago, let me see if I can find it. “We believe you have to play football thinking about the opponent’s goal more than your own,” “You pick players to attack, you form them to defend.” Jorge Sampoli Article i posted in 2014 - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1894861-tighes-2014-world-cup-tactics-board-analysing-jorge-sampaolis-chile Edit - cant find the tactical report (unless someone can show me a seach function on this forum as have 250 pages of posts) but did find this tactical link from 2014 Also you have got me excited again, if we sacked ralph and got jorge in I'd be stoked. Edited 2 October, 2022 by Convict Colony 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 14 hours ago, The Cat said: Potter came from Swedish League didn't he? I mentioned Knutsen a while back, seems like the type of manager who could do well with a young team. Was he not at Mityland when the gave us a hard time in the Europa league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 Also Selles I guess would work well with Sampoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 Is it this coming summer that Ralph’s contract is up? Won’t cost us much to get rid if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 Bo Svensson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 1 hour ago, Toussaint said: Was he not at Mityland when the gave us a hard time in the Europa league? No, it was someone else. Just had to look it up and it was Jess Thorup who went to Copenhagen until he got sacked last month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 30 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: Is it this coming summer that Ralph’s contract is up? Won’t cost us much to get rid if so. Another year - contracted until 2024. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 I suspect Selles was brought in with a view to him gaining experience then taking over once Ralph retires. The problem SR now face is that Selles hasn't had the necessary time and Ralph looks a busted flush with continued weird tactics, team selections and decision making. SR are between a rock and a hard place because if they sack Ralph any new manager will likely want to bring in his own coaches and we've only just hired Selles and the others working with him. However, their bottom line is that they have to make big decisions and make the right ones to give us the best chance of finishing in 17th position or above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 Already being reported that the Wolves hierarchy are in the hunt for a new manager and have contacted potential replacements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 2 October, 2022 Share Posted 2 October, 2022 Ruben Amorin at sporting cb formerly of braga. stats are excellent! Would expect wolves to be looking at him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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