Claude Puel

[Dman]

4 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Indeed it is. It's an alternative point of view.

There’s a reason it’s an alternative view….

[Whitey Grandad]

30 minutes ago, Dman said:

There’s a reason it’s an alternative view….

There are hundreds of altwernative views. Most of them think that Claude Puel is not a very good manager.

Do you (or anybody else) really think that if Puel had been here for nother season that he would have repeated his 'outstanding' achievement of getting 46 points, let alone getting to Wembley again?

[Dman]

15 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There are hundreds of altwernative views. Most of them think that Claude Puel is not a very good manager.

Do you (or anybody else) really think that if Puel had been here for nother season that he would have repeated his 'outstanding' achievement of getting 46 points, let alone getting to Wembley again?

Not the debate I’m having. I already said I wasn’t a fan of Puel. Personally, I think he’s on par with the alpine Flopp, just wasn’t as ‘trendy’ so didn’t get the same grace as Ralph. 

My point is that getting to a final and getting to a semi final or the equivalent of each other. Clearly, getting to a final is a bigger achievement than a semi final. 

[OldNick]

5 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

We wouldn’t have finished anywhere near 8th in the next season and if the end of season trend had continued we might well have been relegated.

Analysis from the BBC,

“They only scored 17 goals in 19 home games and didn't score in six of their last seven home matches.“

 

The 2nd quote was not from me. The 6 of the llast 7 games was as I said where we missed multiple chances in these games

[OldNick]

2 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

There are hundreds of altwernative views. Most of them think that Claude Puel is not a very good manager.

Do you (or anybody else) really think that if Puel had been here for nother season that he would have repeated his 'outstanding' achievement of getting 46 points, let alone getting to Wembley again?

I do as he would have been able to get players in. All the clubs below 8th would also have to pull their socks up, which of course they did

[Holmes_and_Watson]

7 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Do you (or anybody else) really think that if Puel had been here for nother season that he would have repeated his 'outstanding' achievement of getting 46 points, let alone getting to Wembley again?

My thought at the time was that he was setting upmore defensively after injuries. Not my favourite to watch, but I could see why. Did we not also have an injured forward later on too? So, more defensive to protect the goal, and losing an outlet up front. I was expecting him to be involved in bringing in new players for the following season. No reason to think he wouldn't have matched it, unless there were further departures.

[once_bitterne]

On 26/09/2022 at 11:21, OldNick said:

No doubt the case, the last 5 or 6 home games were disappointing where game after game we missed siters that piled the pressure on. Tadic missed a penalty to brak that run which would have eased things. Watch a re-run of the Cup final against United and see the quality of football we played. To win both games against Liverpool in the semis as well as some other good football. He didn't get the chance as he only had a season. It was a remarkable thng that we finished comfortably had an amazing cuprunbut still didnt get a chance. IMO it was a shame, many others were happy to bin him. A mistake, but we have marched on

 

We had a massive downturn on points gained over the season from Koeman's previous one and his home record was awful so he deserved to go.

It hasn't really affected us as we are still around the 40 point mark every season now which was Puel's level!

[Whitey Grandad]

22 hours ago, Dman said:

Not the debate I’m having. I already said I wasn’t a fan of Puel. Personally, I think he’s on par with the alpine Flopp, just wasn’t as ‘trendy’ so didn’t get the same grace as Ralph. 

My point is that getting to a final and getting to a semi final or the equivalent of each other. Clearly, getting to a final is a bigger achievement than a semi final. 

The JPT was a final

[OldNick]

6 minutes ago, once_bitterne said:

We had a massive downturn on points gained over the season from Koeman's previous one and his home record was awful so he deserved to go.

It hasn't really affected us as we are still around the 40 point mark every season now which was Puel's level!

obviously, every other club did as we finished so high. You cant go by one season saying 'well we finished on 46 points' and usually that would be rubbish. There are seasons no doubt where we could get 50+ points and finish in the bottom half. Fact is that season 46 points got us 8th place. Some very decent results in amongt , plus some poor ones, aka every bloddy season I have ever watched Saints

[Lord Duckhunter]

44 minutes ago, OldNick said:

obviously, every other club did as we finished so high. You cant go by one season saying 'well we finished on 46 points' and usually that would be rubbish. There are seasons no doubt where we could get 50+ points and finish in the bottom half. Fact is that season 46 points got us 8th place. Some very decent results in amongt , plus some poor ones, aka every bloddy season I have ever watched Saints

Exactly. 
 

We were the 8th best team in the league, just like we were 2nd best under Lawrie . fuck knows how many points we got that season, and whether that was a good 2nd or would normally be 4th/5th, nobody really gave a fuck. We were the second best team in the country, and we were the 8th best under Claude. 

[Bad Wolf]

48 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Exactly. 
 

We were the 8th best team in the league, just like we were 2nd best under Lawrie . fuck knows how many points we got that season, and whether that was a good 2nd or would normally be 4th/5th, nobody really gave a fuck. We were the second best team in the country, and we were the 8th best under Claude. 

Nail.On.Head

Saying stuff like "We were so many points off 7th" and "We only finished 8th because everyone else was bad" is just so counter productive. Leicester only won the league because everyone else was bad. Having said that, they sacked their manager soon after so maybe it's not that good of an example.

[The Cat]

Interesting post on the Leicester forum about Puel. Reading through their posts doesn't paint Rodgers in a good light at all.

 

[washsaint]

At times under Puel we played some lovely stuff - at other times it was as dull as dishwater.  However, it was ridiculous he got the push after getting us to a Cup final and 8th place with a horrible squad.

The dross served up the last 18 months could almost make you yearn for the Puel season.  We have no discernible plan under Ralph and it is terrible to watch.....as bad, if not worse, than under Pellegrino.  And just like then, the players are a bunch of cowards afraid to make a mistake.