spyinthesky Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 With the cost of electricity hitting businesses harder than domestic users (and that it saying something), I wonder if winter games will get to be kicked off at say 1300hrs to save on the cost of floodlights etc. This happened during the three day week back in the 1970's and was also the case prior to the introduction of floodlights in the 1950's. I guess most fans have become used to the changes in KO times due to TV scheduling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Can't see it happening in premier League as clubs should be able to afford it. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it further down the pyramid especially at non league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) Had the same thought (I remember that from the 70s) but agree wouldn't be an issue for the PL (even Championship) but could certainly be a consideration for lower/non leagues. With far more midweek/evening games this season due to the World Cup break it will still certainly knock the ol' leccy bill northwards! Edited 3 September, 2022 by alehouseboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Hazy recollection that kick offs were moved to 2.15pm during the power cutss/electricity crisis of the 1970's. Including midweek matches, although can't see that happening (just yet) this time round. Premiership times probably won't move due to tv/screening rights overseas, but lower divisions could be more flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 I'm already pissed off with the number of home games that are at 2pm on a Sunday when I can't make it. 3pm on Saturday please, and stick with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 1 hour ago, LaptopSaint said: 3pm on Saturday please, and stick with it. 😂 you’ve more chance of going to the moon in a shoe box. That ship sailed years ago, so last century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: 😂 you’ve more chance of going to the moon in a shoe box. That ship sailed years ago, so last century. *train 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 Don’t they use floodlights for lunchtime games normally anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 50 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Don’t they use floodlights for lunchtime games normally anyway ? Brilliant sunshine and ours still seem to be on regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 11:04, LaptopSaint said: I'm already pissed off with the number of home games that are at 2pm on a Sunday when I can't make it. 3pm on Saturday please, and stick with it. And what about those who can't make Saturday 3:00pm? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: And what about those who can't make Saturday 3:00pm? They miss out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 Just now, Weston Super Saint said: They miss out? "It's not fair because I can't make Sunday at 2pm, I demand that every single game is 3:00pm on Saturday when I can make it" But people can miss out on Saturday 3pm? Shift work is growing and more people are having to work Saturdays. Spreading games throughout the weekend is a very fair way of allowing as many people as possible to get to games or watch games. The only logical reasoning for making everything Saturday 3:00pm is "because it always has been" which is a terrible logic for not changing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: "It's not fair because I can't make Sunday at 2pm, I demand that every single game is 3:00pm on Saturday when I can make it" But people can miss out on Saturday 3pm? Shift work is growing and more people are having to work Saturdays. Spreading games throughout the weekend is a very fair way of allowing as many people as possible to get to games or watch games. The only logical reasoning for making everything Saturday 3:00pm is "because it always has been" which is a terrible logic for not changing things. Horseshit. Spreading games across the weekend serves one purpose only and that is to increase TV viewers and make SKY / BT more money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 13 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Horseshit. Spreading games across the weekend serves one purpose only and that is to increase TV viewers and make SKY / BT more money. "So more people can watch games" - As I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said: "So more people can watch games" - As I said. Rubbish. The stadiums aren't getting any bigger, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said: Rubbish. The stadiums aren't getting any bigger, are they? What does that have to do with anything? Spreading games across the weekend is a fair way of doing it. There's no point in sticking to something just because it's the way it's always been. Every game being Saturday 3pm was abandoned decades ago and with good reason. More people can get to games and people can watch more games on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: What does that have to do with anything? Spreading games across the weekend is a fair way of doing it. There's no point in sticking to something just because it's the way it's always been. Every game being Saturday 3pm was abandoned decades ago and with good reason. More people can get to games and people can watch more games on TV. It won't be 'more people' it will only be different people. The way it was before was much better and simpler. Everybody knew where they stood. Spreading games across the weekend is for the benefit of the TV companies, nothing more. By your arguments there should never evr be sales of season tickets because that means that the same people always go to the games and you don't think that's fair. Well I've got a lesson for you. Life's not fair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 1 minute ago, Whitey Grandad said: It won't be 'more people' it will only be different people. The way it was before was much better and simpler. Everybody knew where they stood. Spreading games across the weekend is for the benefit of the TV companies, nothing more. By your arguments there should never evr be sales of season tickets because that means that the same people always go to the games and you don't think that's fair. Well I've got a lesson for you. Life's not fair. Except that would be fair because you're paying for it in advance. You're also paying for it knowing that games could be moved, like you said life isn't fair. It seems like you're rejecting a "because I said so" argument and then applying your own. Yes, you're right different people would go. If a fan works every Saturday, they can barely ever get to games if it's always on Saturday. If it's spread out, they can get to more. Why is that so hard to understand? The only reason I could imagine anyone having a problem with this is if Saturday 3:00pm was literally the only free time you had all week for 52 weeks of the year and that would put you in a very small minority. I'll leave it there. Wishing you a pleasant weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: "It's not fair because I can't make Sunday at 2pm, I demand that every single game is 3:00pm on Saturday when I can make it" But people can miss out on Saturday 3pm? Shift work is growing and more people are having to work Saturdays. Spreading games throughout the weekend is a very fair way of allowing as many people as possible to get to games or watch games. The only logical reasoning for making everything Saturday 3:00pm is "because it always has been" which is a terrible logic for not changing things. Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that the reason for moving games to Friday, Sunday or Monday is to enable more people who may be working on a Saturday to attend, rather than to make more money for Rupert Murdoch and Muhammed bin Salman among others. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 1 hour ago, LaptopSaint said: Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that the reason for moving games to Friday, Sunday or Monday is to enable more people who may be working on a Saturday to attend, rather than to make more money for Rupert Murdoch and Muhammed bin Salman among others. Cheers. Why do you care who makes money out of it? They aren't going to give you any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 September, 2022 Share Posted 9 September, 2022 29 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said: Why do you care who makes money out of it? They aren't going to give you any. Because if you want to watch a match you have to pay them a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 10 September, 2022 Share Posted 10 September, 2022 On 03/09/2022 at 10:11, alehouseboys said: Had the same thought (I remember that from the 70s) but agree wouldn't be an issue for the PL (even Championship) but could certainly be a consideration for lower/non leagues. With far more midweek/evening games this season due to the World Cup break it will still certainly knock the ol' leccy bill northwards! This is where the F.A should come to the aid of the clubs that need financial support right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 FFS Newcastle at home also moved to 2pm Sunday. That’s three home games in a row now. No point buying tickets in advance - piss take. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 Arrangements made to come to the Newcastle game from Yorkshire, hotels etc and they move it. This just keeps happening and they should not be allowed to sell tickets until the date as time is concrete. Seriously not happy and deters me from coming on what are not cheap days / weekends out. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 36 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said: FFS Newcastle at home also moved to 2pm Sunday. That’s three home games in a row now. No point buying tickets in advance - piss take. The Newcastle game is 2 months away. That weekends fixtures were always going to be moved, ditto every match week thereafter. The bottom line is no TV money, no premier league. Games will always be shifted for TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 Everton on 1st October will be the last 3pm Saturday kick off at home for 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 44 minutes ago, LaptopSaint said: FFS Newcastle at home also moved to 2pm Sunday. That’s three home games in a row now. No point buying tickets in advance - piss take. Presumably like last season this game will be moved to whenever Smug Eddie wants it played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 13 September, 2022 Share Posted 13 September, 2022 2 hours ago, LaptopSaint said: FFS Newcastle at home also moved to 2pm Sunday. That’s three home games in a row now. No point buying tickets in advance - piss take. I've just seen the latest change. Flaming 'eck. I play football on a Sunday, and although I'm pretty crap am covering in goal at the moment as we've lost our keeper. What's the point of a season ticket? I appreciate some games may be changed for the convenience of TV but three in a row all on a Sunday?! There's sod all thought for the fans who fill the grounds and no chance of getting any money back like you will be able to if you have a one-off ticket for Brentford and can't make the new date. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 15 September, 2022 Share Posted 15 September, 2022 On 13/09/2022 at 20:36, egg said: The Newcastle game is 2 months away. That weekends fixtures were always going to be moved, ditto every match week thereafter. The bottom line is no TV money, no premier league. Games will always be shifted for TV. I really wouldn't mind if there was less money in the Premier League. It would still be England's best teams trying to beat each other. I enjoyed that when I first went to the Dell in the 70s. Quite apart from kickoff times, TV money is bit of a curse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 15 September, 2022 Share Posted 15 September, 2022 If even a club like Saints can afford to spunk £30m+ on a player like Carillo, I'm sure we will be able to pay the leccy bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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