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23 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Is this Jackson fella any good? Hell of a lot of cash on someone who doesn't score. Doesn't really solve our issue. 

I've been flogging his virtues on here for ages, but not a chance would I pay €25m on him (not that I think that is accurate). A loan with a view to a move is what we should be pushing for, especially as there are rumours of him having fallen out with the manager, but Villarreal seem to feel they hold the cards, so ain't gonna accept that. 

There is powerful, bullying type runner with the ball there, like a young Lukaku type, that might help get us up the pitch, give us a real threat on the break and perhaps move opposing high defensive lines back a bit. He may be able to lead a line, although not 100% sure about that. He's scored some pretty impressive goals at youth level and the odd one or two for their reserves, but you'd have to be pretty brave to say he will come in and score five or 6 goals to keep us up. That said, other than Ings, I am not sure who that guy would be though as we create so few chances and thus the guy would need to clinical AND on fire, as Ings was 3 seasons ago. 

One question I have i, are we going to play one up front (with wingers) or two? 

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41 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

€25m….really? Seems like we’re overpaying by about double for a player we don’t really need who doesn’t score goals. Go figure, 

 

39 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Getting strong vibes of Djenepo MKII. 😅

 

37 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Is this Jackson fella any good? Hell of a lot of cash on someone who doesn't score. Doesn't really solve our issue. 

At that sort of price seems a large gamble for a player who as you say doesn't seem a goalscorer. From the youtube videos he looks somewhere between a Trainee Zaha (and we need him to come good immediately not in 18months) and a Chicken George MkII (for those old enough to remember him), or Djenepo as Fareham suggests. 

Have to wonder how motivated in the Championship he'll be, or what we might end up having to release him for if we go down.

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Posted (edited)

Report that he is going to Bournemouth not use 

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↔ Nico Jackson firmará como nuevo jugador del Bournemouth.  

✍ Llegará desde el Villarreal por 20 millones + variables.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Chez said:

I've been flogging his virtues on here for ages, but not a chance would I pay €25m on him (not that I think that is accurate). A loan with a view to a move is what we should be pushing for, especially as there are rumours of him having fallen out with the manager, but Villarreal seem to feel they hold the cards, so ain't gonna accept that. 

There is powerful, bullying type runner with the ball there, like a young Lukaku type, that might help get us up the pitch, give us a real threat on the break and perhaps move opposing high defensive lines back a bit. He may be able to lead a line, although not 100% sure about that. He's scored some pretty impressive goals at youth level and the odd one or two for their reserves, but you'd have to be pretty brave to say he will come in and score five or 6 goals to keep us up. That said, other than Ings, I am not sure who that guy would be though as we create so few chances and thus the guy would need to clinical AND on fire, as Ings was 3 seasons ago. 

One question I have i, are we going to play one up front (with wingers) or two? 

Poor mans Nlundulu? 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Edmonton Saint said:

Isn’t there any more Lambert types hanging around in League One or Two? Just get us a goal scorer for goodness sake .

Even a Gabbiadini type would do. 

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Chez said:

I've been flogging his virtues on here for ages, but not a chance would I pay €25m on him (not that I think that is accurate). A loan with a view to a move is what we should be pushing for, especially as there are rumours of him having fallen out with the manager, but Villarreal seem to feel they hold the cards, so ain't gonna accept that. 

There is powerful, bullying type runner with the ball there, like a young Lukaku type, that might help get us up the pitch, give us a real threat on the break and perhaps move opposing high defensive lines back a bit. He may be able to lead a line, although not 100% sure about that. He's scored some pretty impressive goals at youth level and the odd one or two for their reserves, but you'd have to be pretty brave to say he will come in and score five or 6 goals to keep us up. That said, other than Ings, I am not sure who that guy would be though as we create so few chances and thus the guy would need to clinical AND on fire, as Ings was 3 seasons ago. 

One question I have i, are we going to play one up front (with wingers) or two? 

Booked marked to revisit after his 6th game 

Posted

At 10 past 6 we were "in advanced talks" with Nicolas Jackson, by quarter past 7 it was "not particularly close".

 

Who do we believe, SkySports_Sheth or Alex Crook ?

Posted (edited)

Good news for those who have written off Jackson as an absolute waste of money.

#hopeful

 

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Posted

I dont think this means ABK is more badly injured. Just sheer maths that, if on occasions, you want to play three at the back you realistically need five in squad to cover injuries and suspensions 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Forester said:

I dont think this means ABK is more badly injured. Just sheer maths that, if on occasions, you want to play three at the back you realistically need five in squad to cover injuries and suspensions 

and add jones seeing lyanco as a right back in the 4, another cb was needed.  

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Posted
4 hours ago, mitch01 said:

That interview was a disgrace. I really like Blackmore but he should be embarrassed that was broadcast.

so weve won what? 1 league game and 2 cup games in how many games in charge?

Posted
40 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

At 10 past 6 we were "in advanced talks" with Nicolas Jackson, by quarter past 7 it was "not particularly close".

 

Who do we believe, SkySports_Sheth or Alex Crook ?

they are both full of shit allegedly...............

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, Roo1976 said:

they are both full of shit allegedly...............

The club is full of it not one striker in a year that’s not better standard than Adams, Long or Armstrong. 8 days left and nothing.

I can’t wait until we feed the Athletic next week we bid 35m on xxxxxxx but club wouldn’t let go or want to come.

we want 5 centre halves when we have forwards who can’t hit a cows arse

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Perhaps an opportunity to bring in a proper striker has presented itself, causing us to cool off interest in Jackson as the money is going there instead? 

There’s no reason you’d sign for Bournemouth over Saints (unless they are paying crazy wages?). There’s also not going to be a budget to spend €25m on 2 attacking players.

Wishful thinking, I know… but we've been linked to Jackson for so long and it’s been dragging its feet for a while. Whether that’s negotiations or perhaps there are other irons in the fire we wanted to try.

Posted
22 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

Perhaps an opportunity to bring in a proper striker has presented itself, causing us to cool off interest in Jackson as the money is going there instead? 

There’s no reason you’d sign for Bournemouth over Saints (unless they are paying crazy wages?). There’s also not going to be a budget to spend €25m on 2 attacking players.

Wishful thinking, I know… but we've been linked to Jackson for so long and it’s been dragging its feet for a while. Whether that’s negotiations or perhaps there are other irons in the fire we wanted to try.

This could be plausible. We wait to find out. I'm hoping Beto is our top target. 

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Sure I saw something suggesting a premier league club has bid for Sheraldo Becker from Union Berlin. No idea if it’s us or if he’s any good, but has scored 7 in 16 league games this season. Seems to play as a second striker off someone else, probably similar to Adams tbh. One to keep an eye on maybe…

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Why are we even in for Jackson we don't need him..... 

We have been crying out for a striker since last summer...

The fans have been screaming about this since then... 

Board need to stop sodding around trying to be clever and smack down £25 - 30 million on someone like 

Beto or Moussa Dembele 

Fail to do something similar and we are down......

Recalling s##t defenders and relying on a pair of strikers who couldn't score in a brothel on a regular basis isn't fhe anwser. 

Put the money on the table and get it done it's getting embarrassing every window with the same old excuses.....

 

 

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On 18/01/2023 at 19:30, imadirtyurchin said:

Or

plays one game gets injured doesn’t reappear for 3 games. Scores. Starts next game gets injured, misses 5 games. Scores (rinse and repeat)

uses up our wage budget and transfer money and doesn’t deliver the goals we need (but yes, does score 1 in every 2.5 games played) 

I think this is a much more likely scenario. Good player but not the risk we need to take imho. Unless we can get him on loan. 

Wow I wish I was this accurate with my lottery picks.

 

but is it better to have an injured ings than to have nobody at all?? 

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Posted
19 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Why are we even in for Jackson we don't need him..... 

We have been crying out for a striker since last summer...

The fans have been screaming about this since then... 

Board need to stop sodding around trying to be clever and smack down £25 - 30 million on someone like 

Beto or Moussa Dembele 

Fail to do something similar and we are down......

Recalling s##t defenders and relying on a pair of strikers who couldn't score in a brothel on a regular basis isn't fhe anwser. 

Put the money on the table and get it done it's getting embarrassing every window with the same old excuses.....

 

 

Moussa Dembele 2 goals, 0 assists in 14 league games

Nicolas Jackson 2 goals, 2 assists in 14 games

One we "don't need". One we need to "smack down £25m-£30m" on.

The madness of the transfer window.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Why are we even in for Jackson we don't need him..... 

We have been crying out for a striker since last summer...

The fans have been screaming about this since then... 

Board need to stop sodding around trying to be clever and smack down £25 - 30 million on someone like 

Beto or Moussa Dembele 

Fail to do something similar and we are down......

Recalling s##t defenders and relying on a pair of strikers who couldn't score in a brothel on a regular basis isn't fhe anwser. 

Put the money on the table and get it done it's getting embarrassing every window with the same old excuses.....

 

 

If only it was that easy. I'm sure the board are trying very hard to get players in but unfortunately our failure to get a striker in the summer is coming back to bite us on the arse as being in our predicament will put off anyone worth their salt. Supposedly Ings turned us down and according to the Echo so has Ekambi at Lyon. 

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23267993.ligue-one-forward-reportedly-rejects-potential-southampton-switch/

We have almost zero chance of persuading the likes of Beto and Dembele to join even if we stumped up the huge fee. Someone like Onuachu at Genk or Gyokeres may be more realistic but whether they're good enough I have no idea.

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5 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If only it was that easy. I'm sure the board are trying very hard to get players in but unfortunately our failure to get a striker in the summer is coming back to bite us on the arse as being in our predicament will put off anyone worth their salt. Supposedly Ings turned us down and according to the Echo so has Ekambi at Lyon. 

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23267993.ligue-one-forward-reportedly-rejects-potential-southampton-switch/

We have almost zero chance of persuading the likes of Beto and Dembele to join even if we stumped up the huge fee. Someone like Onuachu at Genk or Gyokeres may be more realistic but whether they're good enough I have no idea.

Well if the only option is Armstrong then the bar is very low he was atrocious against Villa. Are we saying we can’t improve on him?

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Moussa Dembele 2 goals, 0 assists in 14 league games

Nicolas Jackson 2 goals, 2 assists in 14 games

One we "don't need". One we need to "smack down £25m-£30m" on.

The madness of the transfer window.

STATS OF BETO

Competition
19
7
-
147'
1,023'
1
-
1
-
64'
Total
20
7
1
156'
1,087'
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Any ‘top’ striker looking for a move to the PL would surely wait until late in the window to see if there’s any interest from a club maybe not bottom of the pile. Probably why all our big transfers go to the wire. 

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4 minutes ago, charliemiller said:

STATS OF BETO

Competition
 
 
 
 
 
19
7
-
147'
1,023'
1
-
1
-
64'
Total
20
7
1
156'
1,087'

And what makes you think this guy will actually want to join us?

Then there’s also the small matter of his current club actually wanting to sell.

Not a chance in hell.

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4 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Well if the only option is Armstrong then the bar is very low he was atrocious against Villa. Are we saying we can’t improve on him?

I agree it's a low bar. Are Jackson, Haji Wright, Estupinan etc upgrades? Plenty of links which have been met with disdain on here, I think we're unlikely to get someone who everyone thinks is a clear upgrade as we're just not very attractive atm. I expect us to get someone in but doubt it will be anyone with a proven record in a top league.

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1 minute ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

I agree it's a low bar. Are Jackson, Haji Wright, Estupinan etc upgrades? Plenty of links which have been met with disdain on here, I think we're unlikely to get someone who everyone thinks is a clear upgrade as we're just not very attractive atm. I expect us to get someone in but doubt it will be anyone with a proven record in a top league.

Honestly I know nothing about any of them but the thought of no-one again in this window and reliant on what we have means certain relegation. We need 7 or 8 wins how will we get those with Adams,Mara or Armstrong?

Posted
2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

TalkShite now saying it's not happening.

Will probably be unveiled tomorrow if he’s saying that. 🤣

 

Jokes aside I can’t say I’m too bothered. It’s just a little concerning about our lack of attacking options compared to our rivals.

Posted
19 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

We'd be better off looking at someone at a top club we can loan with an option at the end of the season. Big bonus if we stay up. 

Probably the most likely option. There’s going to be a limit to who we can attract in our position and who would want to sell in the January window. I expect we will see a couple of last minute loans from big clubs after they have sorted out their business. Makes more sense than chucking silly money at some chump who has only scored twice this season.

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11 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

And what makes you think this guy will actually want to join us?

Then there’s also the small matter of his current club actually wanting to sell.

Not a chance in hell.

A guy scoring goals for a mid table Italian top flight side ain't joining a Prem team facing relegation in January, especially one of our limited size and prestige. Not a chance. Yes money talks, but there will be other suitors come the summer that will pay him handsomely. 

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