saintant Posted 21 January, 2023 Share Posted 21 January, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pilchards said: We have a bunch of 50p heads that’s why. Our tall defenders can’t defend set pieces and they can’t attack the ball either during free kicks or corners. Salisu’s header went 20 feet looping over the bar while Lyanco headed it down for the keeper to gentle pick up. Gone are the days when we had players that would towered over the opposition and bury the fucker! What, you mean Ron Davies - now he could head a ball! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 21 January, 2023 Share Posted 21 January, 2023 SR, Please buy a GK, a winger and a striker as soon as possible. Regards Southampton fan base 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 37 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: SR, Please buy a GK, a winger and a striker as soon as possible. Regards Southampton fan base Swap winger for defensive midfielder and I'd totally agree. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 8 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: If we signed Messi that Welsh twat would start him on the bench and bring Elyonoussi on before him. Welsh? Whats your problem? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 4 hours ago, Warriorsaint said: Welsh? Whats your problem? Could be a complete stab in the dark, but maybe it's because he is Welsh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 SR - please, please, please, don't bother to buy any more players. There really doesn't seem any point in spending millions and millions of pounds on new players if we are just going to continue playing the same old shit players. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Villa sniffing around Jackson. Don’t know whether to be disappointed or not but don’t think he is the answer to our big problem of not having a goalscorer at the club. We needed to sign immediate impact players this window but it seems that has been beyond us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Always liked the look of Gyokeres (ST) of Coventry. At least he has some fight in him. I’d rather take him over some of the ST’s we’ve supposedly been linked with. Bazunu is heading down the route of Angus Gunn MKII, that said he isn’t helped when the midfield was non existent and teams were able to sprint at our last line of defence all season. But he needs to be taken out the firing line now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 SR please sign someone actually good enough to get in this really shit team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Silko Thomas coming on trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 9 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: SR, Please buy a GK, a winger and a striker as soon as possible. Regards Southampton fan base Not forgetting a midfield enforcer who gets stuck in and breaks up play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhitey Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 What - like Alcaraz you mean ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 4 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Talk about hanging a kid out to dry, they both need help in the form of a proper experienced centre forward. Adams will never be that, so we need to drop the hope he will become one as that won't get us anywhere. Mara may well become that, but he's way too young to be carrying that. If the club remain fixated on wide attackers in isolation and ignore the CF area then they're odd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Whoever we sign needs to come in and hit the ground running not take weeks to "bed in" we've not got weeks!! Absolutely pointless buying players to sit on that bench and continuing with the same players that have got us in this position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Not long left in this window so hopefully this week will bring us the excitement Ankersen promised. Hopefully at minimum a decent goalkeeper,a midfield enforcer and someone who knows how to put the ball in the net. If we get them Jones needs to stick them in the team straight away and not leave them on the bench while those who have proved they are not good enough continue to play. Time to show some balls and make good on promises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 We're going to be in a position where we're looking to pay hugely over the odds to a team for a cf who will also demand over the odds wages to join a struggling relegation threatened team. The player won't really want to be here / up for the fight. Likely becoming another financial burden. Makes the decision not to pursue the supposedly interested ings look even worse when you think about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Why are we the only team who has to wait weeks for players to get up to speed, Orsic especially, at 30 and just playing in the world Cup, should be able to play now, but no let's keep playing the shite that got us in this mess 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Saint86 said: We're going to be in a position where we're looking to pay hugely over the odds to a team for a cf who will also demand over the odds wages to join a struggling relegation threatened team. The player won't really want to be here / up for the fight. Likely becoming another financial burden. Makes the decision not to pursue the supposedly interested ings look even worse when you think about it. Part of me thinks the club is still trying to avoid 'overpaying', but that is (and this is their own fault) the only way we get the quality we need now. We have to overpay both the club (they know we need a player) and the player, to convince him. If the club are still trying to do deals that 'work for us' then nothing will change. The time for that was in the summer, but we didn't do it, so they made this bed and now need to pay over the odds. Edited 22 January, 2023 by S-Clarke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Saint86 said: We're going to be in a position where we're looking to pay hugely over the odds to a team for a cf who will also demand over the odds wages to join a struggling relegation threatened team. The player won't really want to be here / up for the fight. Likely becoming another financial burden. Makes the decision not to pursue the supposedly interested ings look even worse when you think about it. Ings is on £150k a week at West Ham and would have fallen into the exact category that you want us to avoid. Only interested in money. Edited 22 January, 2023 by Katalinic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Probably won’t sign: a new GK, a DM and a CF Probably will sign: a RB, a W Really need: a DM and CF. Still. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: well that's it then, we are right, royally screwed. One isn't anywhere near ready for that responsibility and the other couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Part of me thinks the club is still trying to avoid 'overpaying', but that is (and this is their own fault) the only way we get the quality we need now. We have to overpay both the club (they know we need a player) and the player, to convince him. If the club are still trying to do deals that 'work for us' then nothing will change. The time for that was in the summer, but we didn't do it, so they made this bed and now need to pay over the odds. They should have had a striker deal ready to go at the start of Jan. The longer this window goes on the worse this all gets and the more desperate we become sadly. Edited 22 January, 2023 by Saint86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 (edited) We’ve needed a striker since Ings left. We bought Adam Armstrong to do that job. He’s been largely shit. We got lucky with the Broja loan cos he was class. We’ve somehow gone into this season with Che Adams and a kid from France as strikers because of fucking up the summer transfer window. They then had months to make sure there was one joining on Jan 1st for our big run of games (Forest, Everton, Villa, Brentford, Wolves) and so far we have failed miserably. It’s costing us points every minute of each game as we go forward. We buy players, and then don’t play them (Orsic), we fuck about with playing 5 at the back which this team has proven it cannot play. We have a keeper that doesn’t save anything. It’s just an absolute clusterfuck of a mess which will no doubt end up in relegation. Edited 22 January, 2023 by Saint Garrett 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 57 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: This is a tactic designed to reduce other clubs asking prices for number 9's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 1 hour ago, redandwhitey said: What - like Alcaraz you mean ? Alcaraz isnt really a midfield enforcer who gets stuck in and breaks up play. Hes about 8 stone soaking wet aswell. He plays more advanced like JWPs current role. Hence why we've been linked with Hjulmand at Lecce. If we can get him in then that would give us more depth at DM/CM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nolan said: This is a tactic designed to reduce other clubs asking prices for number 9's. I'd say that quote is more than likely put out there to 'reduce fan expectations' and set the possibility of us going into the 2nd half of the season with Che and Mara. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 7 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I'd say that quote is more than likely put out there to 'reduce fan expectations' and set the possibility of us going into the 2nd half of the season with Che and Mara. To be honest, anyone with any quality is going to steer well clear of us. We are a shambolic club at the moment. Bottom of the league, shit squad and a clueless manager who still thinks five across the back line works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 16 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: To be honest, anyone with any quality is going to steer well clear of us. We are a shambolic club at the moment. Bottom of the league, shit squad and a clueless manager who still thinks five across the back line works. This is our fundamental problem. Even with our lack of real quality we would be doing better with an organised formation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: Part of me thinks the club is still trying to avoid 'overpaying', but that is (and this is their own fault) the only way we get the quality we need now. We have to overpay both the club (they know we need a player) and the player, to convince him. If the club are still trying to do deals that 'work for us' then nothing will change. The time for that was in the summer, but we didn't do it, so they made this bed and now need to pay over the odds. I’m getting really bad vibes they are being totally complacent and not seeing the problems.. the quotes about being happy with adams and Mara, the Jackson links the other talk about it might not be a number 9.. seeing no urgency at all to sort this out and SR seem to be just interested in adding more gems for the future even though we are bottom . I actually think we ain’t gonna get a striker now or if we do it will be some underwhelming crap like wright 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: I’m getting really bad vibes they are being totally complacent and not seeing the problems.. the quotes about being happy with adams and Mara, the Jackson links the other talk about it might not be a number 9.. seeing no urgency at all to sort this out and SR seem to be just interested in adding more gems for the future even though we are bottom . I actually think we ain’t gonna get a striker now or if we do it will be some underwhelming crap like wright Why would they not? There's plenty on here saying the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-til-i-die Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 2 hours ago, saintant said: Not long left in this window so hopefully this week will bring us the excitement Ankersen promised. Hopefully at minimum a decent goalkeeper,a midfield enforcer and someone who knows how to put the ball in the net. If we get them Jones needs to stick them in the team straight away and not leave them on the bench while those who have proved they are not good enough continue to play. Time to show some balls and make good on promises. Ankerson promised an exciting couple of weeks but I think he was meaning all announcements from the club, including new staff. I don’t think he meant transfer’s necessarily. That was my reading of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Just now, saints-til-i-die said: Ankerson promised an exciting couple of weeks but I think he was meaning all announcements from the club, including new staff. I don’t think he meant transfer’s necessarily. That was my reading of it. That's how I read it too, it was including the appointments of Boss and Wilcox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: That's how I read it too, it was including the appointments of Boss and Wilcox. Yeah. That’s exactly what he meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, saints-til-i-die said: Ankerson promised an exciting couple of weeks but I think he was meaning all announcements from the club, including new staff. I don’t think he meant transfer’s necessarily. That was my reading of it. I think that his words were actually something like "a couple of exciting weeks with announcements on both the footballing side and off field side of things".....I am probably paraphrasing but can't be bothered to find the recording to list to again. I am sure that someone on here will though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: That's how I read it too, it was including the appointments of Boss and Wilcox. fiddling while Rome burns springs to mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Gorilla 5 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Would Beto, Moffi, Estupiñan, Akpom, Jackson, Onuachu, Wright or any other mystery striker that we’ve been linked with do any worse than our current strikers at scoring goals if we can somehow convince them to join? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: fuck off he did not say that? Incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 (edited) If that means playing Adams and Armstrong as strikers he's an idiot. They've had too much time between them already. It's time to move on. Playing them and expecting them to change and score goals is a good definition of Insanity. Edited 22 January, 2023 by derry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Jones will be sacked if we go down anyway. His tactics are shit. Bottom of the league playing five at the back will not get you many points. We need to attack teams. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Shouldn't those have been SR's words when we were considering signing Jones? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 21 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: That's how I read it too, it was including the appointments of Boss and Wilcox. Well he has a different slant on the meaning of the word exciting than I do. I really couldn't give a monkeys about Boss and Wilcox because right now it's players we need. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Pretty incredible that we were told in the Summer that we have a "significant budget" available for a striker and we're already at the "eyes are open but happy to work with what we've got" stage of the January window. Fair enough if people want to claim it's a tactic etc but we've seen this enough now to assume otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Is that why he doesn't use the two players we've signed already? Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 SR have fucked this season up royally. It’s just factual. 🤷🏻♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Quite simply, the fact we haven't already got in a centre forward is criminal. If we get to the end of the window and haven't signed one then we deserve relegation and I'll start believing conspiracy theories like the board are actively trying to get us relegated. Utter madness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 10 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said: I think that his words were actually something like "a couple of exciting weeks with announcements on both the footballing side and off field side of things".....I am probably paraphrasing but can't be bothered to find the recording to list to again. I am sure that someone on here will though.... OK....I couldn't help myself. His actual words were "people will see that we have some really exciting announcements to make over the next few weeks both on the commercial side and on the football side in terms of people we are bringing in that we really, really believe that can take this club forward". Interpret that what how you will. Depends on whether your glass is half full or half empty I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 Fundamentally all the recruitment issues are on SR. They hung Ralph out to dry in the summer, and if they fail to deliver goals this January I'm not blaming anyone but SR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 22 January, 2023 Share Posted 22 January, 2023 If the club are genuinely saying that it is not possible to get an improvement on Adams in this window then they shouldn't be running a football club. If we don't sign a striker and made no serious attempt to get Ings back then they're really just laughing in the face of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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