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January 2023 Transfer Window

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SotonianWill

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Just now, derry said:

I see Lorient are tracking Djenepo. I'm wondering if there might be the makings of a deal, part exchange for Moffi. His wages might rule that out unless we mitigate that financially.

I really can’t see any of this happening with the bournemouth link. relegation rivals plus the owners may be new forest derby believers. 

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39 minutes ago, derry said:

There is a recall clause in the loan agreement confirmed by Kompany after Christmas.

Presumably this could be invoked up to the transfer deadline, so maybe the club is going to wait to see if they can secure anyone they think is better before triggering it?

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2 minutes ago, CamSaint said:

Presumably this could be invoked up to the transfer deadline, so maybe the club is going to wait to see if they can secure anyone they think is better before triggering it?

rumour is he was asked and didn’t want to come back. fair enough as they are many point clear in the league a promotion is deserved for him. 

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13 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

rumour is he was asked and didn’t want to come back. fair enough as they are many point clear in the league a promotion is deserved for him. 

Why would he? He’s having a great time playing every week, scoring in a winning team with a good chance of winning something. 

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3 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Chelsea have signed another winger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64339737

According to the article that takes their total spending from the summer and this month to £426m. Not far off half a billion pounds in one season. FML.

were we not linked with him in a previous window? or some other english psv player.

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5 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Chelsea have signed another winger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64339737

According to the article that takes their total spending from the summer and this month to £426m. Not far off half a billion pounds in one season. FML.

FFP doing a  bang up job i see, we’ll done those that created and enforce it 

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4 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Chelsea have signed another winger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64339737

According to the article that takes their total spending from the summer and this month to £426m. Not far off half a billion pounds in one season. FML.

Bonkers. Have spent about £900m since they came out of their transfer ban. It’s an utter disgrace. Interesting they now seem to be shopping in a different market though. There is no way Madueke is a top champions league player yet. 

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They seem to be just buying football manager wonderkids. You have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes, whether this is a clear plan or whether it's just someone basically playing fantasy football. 

They have done this before and stagnated a load of young talents, Salah and De Bruyne being examples that went on to be excellent elsewhere, where are all these players going to play? Plus we know they have good academy players, every young player in there is going to look at all these signings and think they will get nowhere that squad. 

They seem to have a first team squad of 34, I know they have injuries but still, Mudryk, Sterling, Mount, Pulisic, Ziyech, Fofana, Madueke all can play the two wide positions.

Then they have Mount, Kante, Kovacic Jorginho, Santos, Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Havertz, Zakaria for midfield positions and 6 potential centre-backs. 

Yet they haven't got a reliable striker with the past Aubemeyang, Havertz is pretty ineffective and Broja is injured.

Then they have 20 people out on loan, with the likes of Lukaku, Colwill, Sarr and Hudson-Odoi could easily be in that first team squad. 

Mental, hope we are looking at promising players in their development squad because it's a pretty easy sell to those players that they have no pathway to the first team squad.  It's funny that probably their most successful period in the league was whilst they had a transfer ban where they had to use their good youth players. 

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6 minutes ago, Charlie Mealings said:

Ings has signed for West Ham, which has upset a few fans. I wrote about how Ings worked miracles for us, which is exactly why we needed to move on from him. 

https://cmealings.substack.com/p/an-ings-return-would-improve-saints

Not sure I totally agree with you but nicely expressed. Glad you now recognise our need for a centre forward. I wish the club felt a similar way... 

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33 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Chelsea have signed another winger.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64339737

According to the article that takes their total spending from the summer and this month to £426m. Not far off half a billion pounds in one season. FML.

Graham Potter saying he has the hardest job in football the other day as well. Utter plank.

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24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure I totally agree with you but nicely expressed. Glad you now recognise our need for a centre forward. I wish the club felt a similar way... 

I'd settle for someone with the tactical nous and ability to recognise that when Che is one on one with the keeper inside the box, they should be running faster than a fucking gazelle being chased across the plains to tap in the inevitable rebound off the keeper's legs.

Should be worth 8-10 goals a season....

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1 hour ago, STEVEADAMS said:

FFP doing a  bang up job i see, we’ll done those that created and enforce it 

Apparently as they spread the transfer over 7 years and make payments in installments its a way around it. David Ornstein was on football daily on the BBC explaining it. Clever accounting

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37 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Apparently as they spread the transfer over 7 years and make payments in installments its a way around it. David Ornstein was on football daily on the BBC explaining it. Clever accounting

Doesn't it all come back to haunt them later on though? 

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29 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Apparently as they spread the transfer over 7 years and make payments in installments its a way around it. David Ornstein was on football daily on the BBC explaining it. Clever accounting

Yeh until they don't get into the Champions League and their income drops. Some of the wages they are paying is absurd, Koulibally is on £300k a week and will be until he is 35, most of these young players they are bringing in on these 7 year contracts are on well over £100k a week, so if they don't work out they are stuck with them for 7 years paying wages other clubs won't pick up. Sterling is on £350k a week I think and will be 33 by the time his contract runs out, and it's clear he won't leave on that amount because no one will pay him that and it's clear that he is declining a little bit, showing the issue of someone who has played 100s and 100s of games at the top level since he was 17.  Cucurella is a defensive liability, they paid like £50 million for him, whilst already having Chilwell and they already have a promising left back in their academy. They are paying left backs like a combined £350k a week. They are still paying a lot of Lukakus wages, after shelling out £95 million for him and Inter can't afford to buy him.  Aubameyang was given a 3 year contract hilariously when he's already 33 and was so bad for Arsenal they literally terminated his contract. 

They might be spreading out the fees but the wages are huge and if they don't work out then they are stuck with these players for years and years. It's the same issue we had (but on a much lower scale) with the likes of Hoedt, Carrillo, Lemina etc. Same issue Everton are having, you give these players big wages, long contracts, buy them for big fees but if they don't work out then they are drain on your squad without offering anything which then cripples your ability to replace them. 

 

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1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Apparently as they spread the transfer over 7 years and make payments in installments its a way around it. David Ornstein was on football daily on the BBC explaining it. Clever accounting

Not clever, it's just basic accounting the way every club does it. If you buy a player for £50m on a 5 year contract evin if you pay in full up front (which is very rare in football) that cost is spread over the 5 years at £10m a year. So for FFP purposes you would only have spent £10m on the player for the year you bought him.  Chelsea are giving unusually long contracts to spread it even further .  And if the selling club accepts it being paid in instalments even better for their cashflow (although irrelrevant for FFP).

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5 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure I totally agree with you but nicely expressed. Glad you now recognise our need for a centre forward. I wish the club felt a similar way... 

Bump. Clubs continues failure to sign a centre forward has undoubtedly cost us more points again. Criminally neglegant to allow this to go on for this long. 

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2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Was there on full show today. Absolutely nothing up front, in a winnable game.

Still, lets bring in more wingers

Plenty of posters on here saying they are happy not sign a striker. After all, there's a chance you could spend money and it wouldn't work out. Ffs. 

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A clinical striker wins it for Villa, Yes CLINICAL which we don’t have.

You pay top dollar for a striker that knows where the net is, If JWP don’t score then it’s hardly likely Adams and Armstrong won’t unless it’s a bloody tap in.

PS let’s buy another bloody winger shall we for MR fucking Nobody to put it away!

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5 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

A clinical striker wins it for Villa, Yes CLINICAL which we don’t have.

You pay top dollar for a striker that knows where the net is, If JWP don’t score then it’s hardly likely Adams and Armstrong won’t unless it’s a bloody tap in.

PS let’s buy another bloody winger shall we for MR fucking Nobody to put it away!

Indeed, Ollie Watkins goal today moves him one ahead of *checks* Che Adams and equal with *checks* James ward prowse. 

It doesn't matter who we sign if we go all season with Bazunu in goal - we will go down. 

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5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Indeed, Ollie Watkins goal today moves him one ahead of *checks* Che Adams and equal with *checks* James ward prowse. 

It doesn't matter who we sign if we go all season with Bazunu in goal - we will go down. 

I tend to agree now, the fascination with a striker is beyond tedious, the way people talk on here you would think goals by “A proper Centre Forward” counted double.

 

I couldn’t care where the goals come from, but I know right now we aren’t stopping any either

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21 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

A clinical striker wins it for Villa, Yes CLINICAL which we don’t have.

You pay top dollar for a striker that knows where the net is, If JWP don’t score then it’s hardly likely Adams and Armstrong won’t unless it’s a bloody tap in.

PS let’s buy another bloody winger shall we for MR fucking Nobody to put it away!

A clinical striker yes, but using an excellently delivered ball to score. When does that ever happen for our dead-ball wonder boy JWP? Never is the easy answer!

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34 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Indeed, Ollie Watkins goal today moves him one ahead of *checks* Che Adams and equal with *checks* James ward prowse. 

It doesn't matter who we sign if we go all season with Bazunu in goal - we will go down. 

Luckily Villa have had other centre forwards to share out the load. Unlike us. 

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4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

Might as well save the cash for our promotion push next season. Sport Republic have royally fucked up not getting a striker in the summer. Too late to save us now.

I would agree, but on today's evidence a goalkeeper is much more important.

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Im sorry, it doesnt matter who we get in, the manager has no clue how to get the best out of our players, keeps playing the same old faces that has got us into this trouble and when the club thought he was a good appointment and thought the likes of Adams, AA, Moi and Djenepo would be good enough to keep us up with assists and goals at the start of the season, well all i can say is that they have well and truly screwed our club up and have no idea.

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I think we need another couple of players to sit on our bench .

Whats the point in signing players if they cant get in a side thats bottom of the fucking league.

£70 odd million spent since the summer and we are worse then we were last May. 

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1 hour ago, saintant said:

10 days to go. Next signing must be a goalkeeper - buy or loan, don't care which but we have no chance of surviving with Bazunu in goal. Nothing against the lad but he just isn't good enough yet to be playing at this level.

no chance in hell sport republic will come to this conclusion

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2 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

no chance in hell sport republic will come to this conclusion

Then they are, excuse the pun, dropping the ball.  Bazunu must be taken out of the firing line immediately. McCarthy is not good enough and Cabalero is too old. Buy or loan a competent keeper this week or, whatever else we do, we'll still get relegated.

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4 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

A clinical striker yes, but using an excellently delivered ball to score. When does that ever happen for our dead-ball wonder boy JWP? Never is the easy answer!

We have a bunch of 50p heads that’s why.

Our tall defenders can’t defend set pieces and they can’t attack the ball either during free kicks or corners. Salisu’s header went 20 feet looping over the bar while Lyanco headed it down for the keeper to gentle pick up. 
Gone are the days when we had players that would towered over the opposition and bury the fucker!

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