January 2023 Transfer Window

[Convict Colony]

12 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Shame we didn't get Ings, I thought he looked pretty sharp in the few times I had the misfortune to watch Villa.

 

Best thing about ings now is he cant play v us this weekend but can score a load v everton.

[badgerx16]

Ings obviously enjoys s bit of claret. ( Burnley, Villa, WHU ).

[badgerx16]

30 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

He might be alright in the Championship.

No, he won't. He is gash.

[Atlanta Saint]

32 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I agree but he's better than what we have at the moment. 

Nope! he scores when he takes the Pens.

 

[Atlanta Saint]

34 minutes ago, Chez said:

makes sense -`setting our sights lower' to ensure we get someone in. Apparently that is the right approach for success.

I'd take Sargent before i took him!

[egg]

2 hours ago, Scummer said:

Who of course also isn't a centre forward, but people seem to ignore that. Not saying that's what you are doing btw.

Gakpo would have played for Ralph, probably in a 2 up top. What he is/was irrelevant to what Jones needs. He plays 1 up top so someone capable of playing that role is what's needed now. 

[Chez]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Can you really not see the difference between aiming lower than an unrealistic signing and aiming as low as someone like Mara to be our main striker? You can't possibly think that the club thought that's what they were buying when they brought him in? Absolutely nobody in the fanbase thought that was what was happening at the time. I know you're not stupid. 

The club clearly didn't think it was aiming low with Mara. They would not have signed him if they didn't think he could be a success. But they didn't sign him to be the main striker. I don't think they were looking to sign another striker full stop. They tried to get Gakpo, but he was a left winger.

[OldNick]

11 minutes ago, Atlanta Saint said:

I'd take Sargent before i took him!

OMG we are sinking fast with the players suggested , Akinbiyi will be the next suggestion lol

Edited 20 January, 2023 by OldNick

[Chez]

1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

Haji Wright bid launched apparently. 

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

[Toadhall Saint]

10 minutes ago, Chez said:

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

Sooner the guy from Belgium ona what’s his face

[Saint NL]

 

 

[qwertyell]

36 minutes ago, Chez said:

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

Quicker than I remember him being at the WC (or maybe Turkish defenders are glacially slow).

Still shite.

[OldNick]

37 minutes ago, Chez said:

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

thanks for that, I like the power and he seems to use both feet, Lukakuesque, oh for a Cyrille Regis or Les Ferdinand. All powerful , pacy and scared defenders

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Quicker than I remember him being at the WC (or maybe Turkish defenders are glacially slow).

Still shite.

Maybe but would give us much needed muscle, power, and seems decent in he air

[Convict Colony]

40 minutes ago, Chez said:

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

Not sure how many wrights there are but the commentator loves saying his full name all the time

[revolution saint]

1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure how many wrights there are but the commentator loves saying his full name all the time

Wright man for the job?

[DT]

16 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure how many wrights there are but the commentator loves saying his full name all the time

Swear he calls him 'sausage' in that first clip

[richardc]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

We obviously signed Mara believing he was good enough at this level or we wouldn't have signed him. We did exactly what you just said we should do: set our sights lower. But now you are saying we shouldn't have set our sights lower, we should have signed a better quality striker. 

I'm sure i remember Ralph said that Mara was one for the future and not ready to start in Premier league

[FarehamSaintJames]

4 hours ago, DT said:

I grew up in Fareham. I’ve been a Southampton fan all my life. I moved to the city three years ago. 
I can request one of the mods assists me in changing it if it appeases your geographic hatred.
I wasn’t aware that if you weren’t from the city you couldn’t support the football team. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣

Didn’t realise we got judged on here for usernames, I’m guessing DT stands for “Distinctly Thick” or something along those lines then? 

Edited 20 January, 2023 by FarehamSaintJames

[FarehamSaintJames]

I’d take £5m for Djenepo. Always been made of glass, never known a player to trip over his own legs so much. Apart from Zaha - although that’s normally intentional. 😅

[Chez]

27 minutes ago, OldNick said:

thanks for that, I like the power and he seems to use both feet, Lukakuesque, oh for a Cyrille Regis or Les Ferdinand. All powerful , pacy and scared defenders

there are a lot of links that may be total bollocks, but big, fast, powerful direct runners with the ball, guys that can control and turn and go at players, not too dissimilar to what Broja did for us in him pomp, seems to be the M.O. here.

Jackson, Semenyo and Wright all seem to fit this type.

It feels like their ability to get us up the pitch, to drive into space and cause problems is just as important as the goal threat.

Whether that's what we need ( and I think many on here just want to get a to class finisher) I don't know, but it certainly wouldn't do us any harm to have a guy that offers more threat on the break.

[Chez]

34 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Not sure how many wrights there are but the commentator loves saying his full name all the time

you're right.

[Chez]

38 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Quicker than I remember him being at the WC (or maybe Turkish defenders are glacially slow).

Still shite.

Not seen him play.

Is wright really shite? He would add height and looks bright. His goal tally is a fraction light, but might offer some bite. It would be a delight to get a signing tonight, right?

[Chez]

10 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

I’d take £5m for Djenepo. Always been made of glass, never known a player to trip over his own legs so much. Apart from Zaha - although that’s normally intentional. 😅

Who's offering?

Bite their hands off.

Can we send the scout that found him and the guy that offered him a new contract - oh, that was Ralph - with him?

[The Cat]

 

 

[a1ex2001]

2 hours ago, OldNick said:

Well you can stop bringing Ings to te conversation as he is now at WHU, as for Broja he is lying around recouperating somewhere. He has not pulled up trees in the games he played this season and towards the end of his time with us had lost his zip.

Any forwards worth their salt are playing for the top sides and any others are a risk. WHU spent a fortune on that Italian and he hasnt fired, so what if we do the same just to appease?

We also have a terrible record when it comes to big money deals, the list of people who were are record transfers makes pretty grim reading!

I'm disapointed we weren't in for Ings or couldn't compete on wages with West Ham as he is proven quality, but as you point out any transfer move is a gamble and price is no indication of quality/success big money flops litter the league!

[Chez]

23 minutes ago, The Cat said:

 

 

 

so definitely not a right back then and obviously KWP is going nowhere.

[hypochondriac]

17 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said:

We also have a terrible record when it comes to big money deals, the list of people who were are record transfers makes pretty grim reading!

I'm disapointed we weren't in for Ings or couldn't compete on wages with West Ham as he is proven quality, but as you point out any transfer move is a gamble and price is no indication of quality/success big money flops litter the league!

Might as well just do what we did in the summer then and not get anyone in if that's the attitude. 

Edited 20 January, 2023 by hypochondriac

[SaintTex]

this obsession with Broja on here is baffling:

Che has a better goals to minutes ratio in all comps this season than Broja did last season with Saints.

Broja : 2167 minutes | 8 goals : 1 goal every 270 minutes

Che : 1606 minutes | 8 goals : 1 goal every 201 minutes

I am not saying Broja isn't a good player, but he ain't some goal scoring machine savior.

[petermcpete]

Let's hope Wright isn't the new Jozy Altidore.

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

I’d take £5m for Djenepo. Always been made of glass, never known a player to trip over his own legs so much. Apart from Zaha - although that’s normally intentional. 😅

Never understand this thinking. That £5million wouldn't come close to getting someone in that would be any better than Djenepo, who has shown some real talent as well as graft at times and deserves a chance under a new manager to see if he flourishes - especially as he's only 24. 

[Dman]

2 hours ago, Chez said:

no idea if he's any good or not, but quite enjoyed watching his highlights video. 

scored 24 goals in 48 Super Lig games over last 1.5 seasons. Big and fast, which Jones may well like.

 

I watched the first minute of this and I have to say, as Fay as YouTube videos go, this is up there with the worst. 
 

He looks absolutely terrible. I don’t care how many he’s scored, if the defending is like that of this vid, I could score a load as well.

 

will struggle like mad in the PL if we signed him. Let’s hope we stay away 

[The Juice]

12 minutes ago, SaintTex said:

this obsession with Broja on here is baffling:

Che has a better goals to minutes ratio in all comps this season than Broja did last season with Saints.

Broja : 2167 minutes | 8 goals : 1 goal every 270 minutes

Che : 1606 minutes | 8 goals : 1 goal every 201 minutes

I am not saying Broja isn't a good player, but he ain't some goal scoring machine savior.

Come on, my guy. Anyone watching Saints across the last few years will note that Broja is a far superior player to Che. More direct, more physical, better feet, more pace. You can’t exclusively use goals to minutes ratio to reflect the effectiveness of attacking players (of course, it is part of the conversation)

I accept that Broja may not be the answer to the current predicament (not that he is an option, of course) but to suggest Che should be considered in preference is ridiculous. 

[Toadhall Saint]

56 minutes ago, The Cat said:

 

 

 

Was pressed in the press conference - potentially 2 new players - would not be tied down by position but was happy to say what attributes me is looking for. Check out the link in the match day thread. It’s the first part if you don’t want to listen to it all.

[Dellman]

19 minutes ago, The Juice said:

Come on, my guy. Anyone watching Saints across the last few years will note that Broja is a far superior player to Che. More direct, more physical, better feet, more pace. You can’t exclusively use goals to minutes ratio to reflect the effectiveness of attacking players (of course, it is part of the conversation)

I accept that Broja may not be the answer to the current predicament (not that he is an option, of course) but to suggest Che should be considered in 

Give me Che any day. He has high workrate consistently. Broja was erratic with lazy spells, going missing too often. Haven't heard much of him this season. Does he get in the Chelsea team? 

[saintwbu]

1 minute ago, Dellman said:

Give me Che any day. He has high workrate consistently. Broja was erratic with lazy spells, going missing too often. Haven't heard much of him this season. Does he get in the Chelsea team? 

Did his ACL a month or so back

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Dellman said:

Give me Che any day. He has high workrate consistently. Broja was erratic with lazy spells, going missing too often. Haven't heard much of him this season. Does he get in the Chelsea team? 

He had been playing for Chelsea, but he did his ACL and apparently his MCL - so a very, very significant injury for the lad.

Hope he's ok, but given his game was pretty centred around explosive pace you do have to wonder if he'll ever be the same after this.

[SuperSAINT]

26 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Was pressed in the press conference - potentially 2 new players - would not be tied down by position but was happy to say what attributes me is looking for. Check out the link in the match day thread. It’s the first part if you don’t want to listen to it all.

Not seen it yet, but I think he said right back isn’t high priority?

Hoping a defensive midfielder is higher up the list. 

Edited 20 January, 2023 by SuperSAINT

[Saint Garrett]

3 hours ago, Chez said:

We obviously signed Mara believing he was good enough at this level or we wouldn't have signed him. We did exactly what you just said we should do: set our sights lower. But now you are saying we shouldn't have set our sights lower, we should have signed a better quality striker. 

Based on what? I'm almost certain he was brought in with next season in mind over this one. He was the replacement for Shane Long, i.e. 4th choice striker behind a new forward, Adams, and AArmstrong.  Unfortunately, that striker (Broja/Gakpo) didn't arrive.

[Weston Super Saint]

6 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Based on what? I'm almost certain he was brought in with next season in mind over this one. He was the replacement for Shane Long, i.e. 4th choice striker behind a new forward, Adams, and AArmstrong.  Unfortunately, that striker (Broja/Gakpo) didn't arrive.

xG / stats / football manager ratings.

'Tis the way forward  

[a1ex2001]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Might as well just do what we did in the summer then and not get anyone in if that's the attitude. 

I haven't said that what I have said is that all this talk of if we put the Aribo etc money in the striker pot then there is no guarantee we would have a striker any better than Che, yes we clearly need a new striker and I'm disappointed we haven't added one but it's not easy and busting the budget is no guarantee of success we are clearly trying to get players in it's just a question of timing and the right player at the right price there is certainly no point blowing the budget just for the hell of it people seem to quickly forget the Carrillo example!   

[hypochondriac]

23 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said:

I haven't said that what I have said is that all this talk of if we put the Aribo etc money in the striker pot then there is no guarantee we would have a striker any better than Che, yes we clearly need a new striker and I'm disappointed we haven't added one but it's not easy and busting the budget is no guarantee of success we are clearly trying to get players in it's just a question of timing and the right player at the right price there is certainly no point blowing the budget just for the hell of it people seem to quickly forget the Carrillo example!   

Nothing is a guarantee of success but in general, paying more for better players increases your chances. That's why better players tend to cost more. No one is saying we have to spend that much, just that in general that's probably the most we can afford and will give us a greater chance of signing the best possible player that we can afford in that position. Looks like Jones isn't going to sign a striker anyway so seems we will go again in the summer when it could be too late. 

Edited 20 January, 2023 by hypochondriac

[hypochondriac]

35 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Based on what? I'm almost certain he was brought in with next season in mind over this one. He was the replacement for Shane Long, i.e. 4th choice striker behind a new forward, Adams, and AArmstrong.  Unfortunately, that striker (Broja/Gakpo) didn't arrive.

Of course he was. Chez knows this too he's just being obtuse to have an argument online. In other news, Just seen that Jones is alluding to us not signing a striker and getting a wide attacker again. It seems very likely that this is what we will be going for which is idiotic and could cost us our place in the prem. 

[Toadhall Saint]

8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Of course he was. Chez knows this too he's just being obtuse to have an argument online. In other news, Just seen that Jones is alluding to us not signing a striker and getting a wide attacker again. It seems very likely that this is what we will be going for which is idiotic and could cost us our place in the prem. 

where has this been alluded to? 

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

I watched the first minute of this and I have to say, as Fay as YouTube videos go, this is up there with the worst. 
 

He looks absolutely terrible. I don’t care how many he’s scored, if the defending is like that of this vid, I could score a load as well.

 

will struggle like mad in the PL if we signed him. Let’s hope we stay away 

Fucking hell, he's no Steve de Ridder, that's for sure!

[jayrivers]

12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Of course he was. Chez knows this too he's just being obtuse to have an argument online. In other news, Just seen that Jones is alluding to us not signing a striker and getting a wide attacker again. It seems very likely that this is what we will be going for which is idiotic and could cost us our place in the prem. 

Not if they score goals and contribute to more goals and as a team we score more goals with all the additions and strengthening and chance of style of play for formation we score more goals, and probably most importantly we concede less goals so we don't need to score 3 goals to win a game 

[SotonianWill]

4 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

where has this been alluded to? 

It hasn't really, Indiana in his presser said he wants more clinical/quality players in attack and said the club dosen't have a preference where in attack CF/Wing

[John B]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

He had been playing for Chelsea, but he did his ACL and apparently his MCL - so a very, very significant injury for the lad.

Hope he's ok, but given his game was pretty centred around explosive pace you do have to wonder if he'll ever be the same after this.

My daughters brother in law a Chelsea season ticket holder is pretty devastated about the injury

 

Most Chelsea fans think Broja had a great future before the injury

[Toadhall Saint]

5 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

It hasn't really, Indiana in his presser said he wants more clinical/quality players in attack and said the club dosen't have a preference where in attack CF/Wing

I have only seen the press conference hence why I was asking hypo where it has been alluded to. Thanks for confirming we have the same understanding of the press conference 

[thornhill_saints]

8 hours ago, Francis1947 said:

Dear wild-saint

I am responding to your comment about my post. Now, admittedy I dont think I expressed myself too well when I said that I probably would not renew my season ticket next season if Southampton FC pursued their policy of signing unproven young players this season rather than an experienced well proven players like Ings who might just get us out of this mess we are in.

I should have also said that I am 75 years of age now and the time has come I think to end the longish treck from my home in the New Forest to St.Marys on each and every home game.

However I'm pretty certain my thoughts did not warrant your rather abusive comment.

Now, I am old school and I like to defend my corner.

So, shall we compare who is the " wettest fanny ".....whatever that bloody means !

In 1965, at the age of 18, I won a scholarship to Dartmouth Royal Navy College. It was hard won.  After 2 years at Dartmouth I came out as a 20 year old Midshipman and firts erved on H.M.S Hermes.

I then served for 22 years in the Royal Navy serving on 5 warships in my career. One of those warships was H.M.S. Glamorgan and on that fine ship I sailed from Gibraltar in 1982 to the South Atlantic to take part in the Falkands War. By then I had attained the rank of Lieutenant and had trained on a weapons system called Sea Slug and become a very junior Warship Officer.

On June 12 1982 the Glamorgan was hit by an Excocet missile fired from the island and we lost 13 of our shipmates and friends. We were very badly damaged and arrived back in Pompey in July and I saw my my wife who I hadn't seen for almost 6 months. We had sailed to Gibraltar earler in the year to take part in Excercises with the U.S. Navy in the Mediterranean.

I left the Royal Navy in 1987 with the rank of Lieutenant Commander. Not a meteroic rise I know . Three promotions in 22 years but by then I knew I had reached my ceiling in regards to my abilities.. I had served with many blokes who were far brighter than me but I think that I did ok.

So, my old Mate. Want to meet for a pint somewhere and discuss who is the "wettest Fanny " ? You or I ?  

You see I think this forum is a pretty good thing. People like you and I.....fellow Saints fans can discuss and share opinions. Unfortunately there are afew guys on here who resort to abuse if someone has a different viewpoint. 

My 2 pennies worth

HMS Hermes - My late father was also on that around that time - Anthony Bull - Tony