DT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 14 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Everton and Forest were sniffing around too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Just now, DT said: Everton and Forest were sniffing around too Both sides that would pay higher wages than us, I think. Although Everton are FFP hamstrung. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Looks well outside our budget now, perhaps why we seem to be linked with alternatives such a Oscar Esupinan… Would you rather sign a Championship striker than sign nobody? We already have Che and Armstrong who would smash that league. I also think Mara would do well there too… We need to spend more on this position, crucial to our season IMO. I think he could work. Has the physicality we need. And can score. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Looks well outside our budget now, perhaps why we seem to be linked with alternatives such a Oscar Esupinan… Would you rather sign a Championship striker than sign nobody? We already have Che and Armstrong who would smash that league. I also think Mara would do well there too… We need to spend more on this position, crucial to our season IMO. I suppose we’re in an odd place, we’re bottom of the table so it immediately makes our negotiating position difficult, any top level proven striker is unlikely to want to come here without significant recompense and likely break clauses in the contract, as suggested too just agreeing a fee is probably more difficult too as clubs know our position This is why we needed to sort this is the summer and Semmens blase about not overspending in that window has come back to bite him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Confirmed we have stepped back from Moffi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Confirmed we have stepped back from Moffi Surprised Everton not in for him. Toffees after Moffi seems made in heaven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Just now, DT said: Surprised Everton not in for him. Toffees after Moffi seems made in heaven Don’t think they have a pot to piss in from a FFP perspective, only links for them seem to be loans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Estupinan scored a lovely goal for Hull on Saturday in the 98th minute. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Cat said: Estupinan scored a lovely goal for Hull on Saturday in the 98th minute. He has some good stats all round to be honest 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Just now, Toadhall Saint said: He has some good stats all round to be honest What’s that all important XG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Turkish said: What’s that all important XG? I have no fookin idea Turks - I’m too old for all that Tom foolery. 24 games and 12 goals if that helps Edited 16 January, 2023 by Toadhall Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Talksport (poor source, I know) say we would be keen to bring back Danny Ings. We couldn’t, could we??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 1 minute ago, goodymatt said: Talksport (poor source, I know) say we would be keen to bring back Danny Ings. We couldn’t, could we??? Alfie House from the echo said we’re still keen as well 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Surely Ings would be a no brainer - he's proven in the PL unlike the others being linked with......we don't have the time to hope that someone can score in this league. If he's fit, just get it done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 I'd rather we spent £10-15m on Ings than an unproven striker from the Championship or Europe. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 1 hour ago, goodymatt said: Both sides that would pay higher wages than us, I think. Although Everton are FFP hamstrung. Everton's wage bill for 20/21 was £183m, so considerably more than us. Hard to say what budget Forest are working to, but I'd of thought we would have similar `paying power', maybe less of a larger percentage of income (than ours) is spent on transfer fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Ings would make this transfer window a perfect one, a CDM would be greedy. We’d stay up comfortably with Ings back scoring goals from nothing. I don’t see why West Ham/Everton would go for somebody other than Ings if he’s available though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 8 minutes ago, Appy said: Alfie House from the echo said we’re still keen as well Dependant on their injuries, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Dependant on their injuries, I believe. Bring him home! 👑 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 17 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Talksport (poor source, I know) say we would be keen to bring back Danny Ings. We couldn’t, could we??? Im not sure how enthusiastic I am about it really but for the right fee it dhould work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 17 minutes ago, Appy said: Alfie House from the echo said we’re still keen as well Please make it happen 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 7 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Bring him home! 👑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Sam Wallace said we’d tried (unsuccessfully) to bring him back. I don’t *think* it will happen - but I believe the club would like it to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Not sure Moffi is necessarily out of budget but I reckon his value has hit more than we are willing to pay for him. £30 million for a guy with 32 in 83 in the French league where it's very difficult to assess quality, I think that is quite a gamble at that sort of money. Just on Ings btw, whilst his time at Villa has not been great, he has 6 goals in the PL this season from just 819 minutes, which is a goal every 136 minutes, so basically 2 in 3. And until very recently that has been for a poor Villa side that was struggling. If the fee/wages were right I wouldn't be against it, he should fit in well, brings experience, already knows many of the players, used to the league etc. Villa I presume looking for a permanent move rather than a loan, but wouldn't pay them more than about £15 million and he can't expect the wage we offered him before he left. Depends how much humility he has I reckon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Villa have just reached an agreement on a 19 year old striker from MLS - may be one for the future, but may be one that makes Ings a little bit more surplus to requirements.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 13 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Dependant on their injuries, I believe. I'd have Ings back, but he can't be the only striker we buy this window, he's just as likely to be injured after the first game back as not, then we'd be back to Adams and Armstrong again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Might be one where we failed early in the window but things can change as deadline day approaches. He likes to sign for us on deadline day IIRC. I’m sure Villa’s activity would give us a clue, they won’t be getting rid of Danny without a replacement. Looks like he’s 3rd choice in Emery’s system behind Watkins and Bailey. Danny would be first choice king of the scummers here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Would be over the moon if we got Ings back, but would equally be absolutely gutted if we let him go to another team around us, as he could really be the difference in the right system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Just looking at Ings’ wiki, Villa only put him on a 3 year contract when they signed him, so he’s got about 18 months of that left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Turkish said: What’s that all important XG? Oh my, I’ve only just stopped laughing after your last joke about Xg. What a crowd pleaser. Edited 16 January, 2023 by wild-saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 (edited) Just sifting through the transfer news for Saints that is out there, here is a summary: Name Club Position Terem Moffi Lorient (France) Striker Daizen Maeda Celtic Striker Nicolas Jackson Villareal Striker Danny Ings Aston Villa Striker Mystery Striker(!) ? Striker Beto Udinese Striker Oscar Estupinan Hull City Striker Jérémy Doku Rennes (France) Winger Kian Breckin Man City Winger Carlos Borges Man City Winger Rory MacLeod Dundee Utd Winger Michael Keane Everton CB James Bree Luton Town RB Rick Karsdorp Roma RB There may be a couple I have missed. For example, I seem to remember theer being another full-back that we were linked to earlier on, but I can't find the details. Edited 16 January, 2023 by SaintJackoInHurworth Code not working so pasted table instead! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Villa sign a striker, no idea if he's first-team ready but seems to be highly rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 25 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Would be over the moon if we got Ings back, but would equally be absolutely gutted if we let him go to another team around us, as he could really be the difference in the right system. Ings reportedly "not keen" on Everton https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/danny-ings-aston-villa-everton-25985840 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 4 minutes ago, waylander said: Ings reportedly "not keen" on Everton https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/danny-ings-aston-villa-everton-25985840 Not surprised - I know they’ll bleat on about being a ‘bigger club’ etc, but they’re a mess, we’re close to his home, and he used to play for Liverpool. There’s no way they should be getting him ahead of us, if we want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: What’s that all important XG? 11.22 so 12 goals is just above expected, so finishing the chances you would expect him to. One red card this year for a karate kick to the head of a Millwall player trying to bring down a long ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 If Ings is available it's a no brainer and he'll likely be cheaper than an untried entity from Europe or the Championship. He was the main reason we were so successful during project restart and was the instigator of our successful pressing which by the looks of things is what NJ is trying to integrate into the squad. Yes he is 30 and his injury record is poor but if he keeps us up this season it's a cheap price to pay for retaining our premier league status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 30 minutes ago, waylander said: Ings reportedly "not keen" on Everton https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/danny-ings-aston-villa-everton-25985840 But if, as article says, a factor in that is that he's just had a new house built near Villa, that would imply he'd also not be keen to come back here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ken Tone said: But if, as article says, a factor in that is that he's just had a new house built near Villa, that would imply he'd also not be keen to come back here. Pinch of salt required I feel. Its not a quote from Danny Ings, it’s from Alex Crook, and we all know how reliable he is. The quote is: “. I was told he wasn’t particularly keen on joining an Everton or a Wolves.”. Which, even if true, suggests he’d prefer / only want to move for a side higher up in the league. Saints may be a little more a draw than those just due to family, who knows. But I think it was reported that Ings is on around £120k a week wages at Villa, so that’ll be a factor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Can't see Ings wanting to come back. Too much for the ego. Would be good, but think we should probably invest more time in the Hull chappie - probably more efficient use of energy and less chance of disappointment. We are a 'Wolves or an Everton', after all. Perhaps Liverpool might offer him a lifeline... (joking) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ken Tone said: But if, as article says, a factor in that is that he's just had a new house built near Villa, that would imply he'd also not be keen to come back here. The new house thing seems odd, new house on a three year contract? It would take that long from land purchase to getting handed the keys surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Ings’ ego wouldn’t allow him to come back here. Basically admitting the move he stamped his feet for failed. I can’t stand the prick anyway. Watching him pretty much down tools on us to try and force his Spurs move and then blaming our stature, rather than his attitude, for failing to make the England squad… F*** him. We don’t need lads like him and he’d spend half of it injured anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Completely agree that his ego wouldn’t allow him to come back here and admit he wasn’t good enough for that move. Would take him a heartbeat however. If he’s £10-15m, he has a better chance of keeping us up than most, especially with the lack of time needed to adapt unlike somebody such as Moffi or Beto. Never saw the Alfie House link, but not sure it’s worth this much conversation just based off a loose link by Crook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 1 hour ago, SambaMaverick said: Villa sign a striker, no idea if he's first-team ready but seems to be highly rated Not a cheap one, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Ings would come back in a heartbeat, so I’ve been told. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Not a cheap one, either. Spare change in the premier league mate. We've just become conditioned to think that it's a lot of money because we shop at primark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 Get Ings back on the bus FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 3 minutes ago, trousers said: Get Ings back on the bus FFS! Can’t, he’s not interested. He’s building new houses and is looking past his footballing career. He’s becoming Southampton’s version of Dion Dublin and homes under the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 18 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Ings would come back in a heartbeat, so I’ve been told. I thought he rejected us last week or week before, as per sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 22 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: Ings would come back in a heartbeat, so I’ve been told. he would until saturday when he returns to a bunch of angry wotsit eaters booing him and calling him a c*nt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 16 January, 2023 Share Posted 16 January, 2023 (edited) As someone else mentioned I don’t believe we’ll sign an out and out striker this window, instead opting for a winger who can come into a central role if needed. Edited 16 January, 2023 by SotonianWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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