Chez Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Speaking of Midtjylland, Gustav Isaksen looks a decent player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Not sure about when he played for Midtjylland. All I know is like he is 6.7 and can actually actually score with head. Which would give us a needed presence up top Highlights reel for anyone interested. Looks exactly what we are crying out for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 8 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Not sure about when he played for Midtjylland. All I know is like he is 6.7 and can actually actually score with head. Which would give us a needed presence up top Highlights reel for anyone interested. Looks exactly what we are crying out for! Age 28. Agree he looks like something we need, but at that age doesn’t satisfy one of the “metrics” we use (in current parlance). Unless there’s been a change in the clubs signing policy I think we can rule that one out. Traore mentioned in an earlier post, age 21, is more in keeping with Saints strategy. Personally I’d like to see us relax the age targets but that remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 6 minutes ago, Badger said: Age 28. Agree he looks like something we need, but at that age doesn’t satisfy one of the “metrics” we use (in current parlance). Unless there’s been a change in the clubs signing policy I think we can rule that one out. Traore mentioned in an earlier post, age 21, is more in keeping with Saints strategy. Personally I’d like to see us relax the age targets but that remains to be seen. We don’t need another YHGTI we need someone to come in and make a difference now, that’s the problem that don’t come cheap or easy especially in January 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 1 minute ago, Turkish said: We don’t need another YHGTI we need someone to come in and make a difference now, that’s the problem that don’t come cheap or easy especially in January Agree with you, but it would take a shift of emphasis in our recruitment dept. Perhaps looking down the barrel of relegation might focus the minds. January does present difficultly, as does our league position in convincing the calibre of player needed to join the “project”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 How about the Canadian lad smashing it up in France? Name has left me for now. Be an expensive signing though like Gakpo would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 13 minutes ago, skintsaint said: How about the Canadian lad smashing it up in France? Name has left me for now. Be an expensive signing though like Gakpo would have been. Jonathan David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Jonathan David That's the fella. Not sure if he is a bigger target man type forward though that has suggest will suit the new managers long ball footie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 6 minutes ago, skintsaint said: That's the fella. Not sure if he is a bigger target man type forward though that has suggest will suit the new managers long ball footie. No he is more the quick and skillful type 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Jonathan David is top quality. Lassina Traore or Onuachu would be great too. All powerful goalscoring centre forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Feels like beating a dead horse at this point but with a more clinical forward up front with Che we might have had a different result today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 I still can’t quite believe we managed to spend £80m in the summer, the first season in years we’ve not had to sell to buy and we’re now significantly worse than we were last season 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Worth putting a cheeky loan bid in for Wood. Doubt Toon would want to lose him but with Wilson and Isak fit maybe, and he may want to play games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hodgey said: Worth putting a cheeky loan bid in for Wood. Doubt Toon would want to lose him but with Wilson and Isak fit maybe, and he may want to play games. why would they let him go mid-season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 3 hours ago, Turkish said: I still can’t quite believe we managed to spend £80m in the summer, the first season in years we’ve not had to sell to buy and we’re now significantly worse than we were last season Well, we had a bonzer strategy of bringing in a guy who used to recruit for the Man City youth team, we let him him sign a bunch of untried nippers from Man City for huge money and expected they’d slot straight into our first team, then he left us straight after the transfer window shut so that he could go somewhere else. Its not the best strategy I’ve ever seen. When you write it down, it actually sounds even more daft than it was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 1 hour ago, The Kraken said: Well, we had a bonzer strategy of bringing in a guy who used to recruit for the Man City youth team, we let him him sign a bunch of untried nippers from Man City for huge money and expected they’d slot straight into our first team, then he left us straight after the transfer window shut so that he could go somewhere else. Its not the best strategy I’ve ever seen. When you write it down, it actually sounds even more daft than it was. Not as bad as Liz Truss Revealed: the £30bn cost of Liz Truss’s disastrous mini-budget | Liz Truss | The Guardian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 What do we think is priority? 1. Striker who is a finisher 2. Wide forward with some pace and goal threat 3. Centre mid cover, especially if AMN needed at RB for a while? 4. LB cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 1 minute ago, Dusic said: What do we think is priority? 1. Striker who is a finisher 2. Wide forward with some pace and goal threat 3. Centre mid cover, especially if AMN needed at RB for a while? 4. LB cover? Number one by an absolute mile. We’d be comfortably mid table right now if we weren’t utterly hapless in front of goal. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 28 minutes ago, Dusic said: What do we think is priority? 1. Striker who is a finisher 2. Wide forward with some pace and goal threat 3. Centre mid cover, especially if AMN needed at RB for a while? 4. LB cover? Absolutely need to get 1 and 2 in January, then I’d target a veteran CM if the price is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, ecurnew02 said: Absolutely need to get 1 and 2 in January, then I’d target a veteran CM if the price is right Everton ..Leeds and wolves are all in the market for a striker .. can’t afford to hang around waiting until around the end of the window .. whoever it is we’ve been looking at and studying .. pay the fucker wot he wants don’t fuck around saints.. do it early !! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Kraken said: Well, we had a bonzer strategy of bringing in a guy who used to recruit for the Man City youth team, we let him him sign a bunch of untried nippers from Man City for huge money and expected they’d slot straight into our first team, then he left us straight after the transfer window shut so that he could go somewhere else. Its not the best strategy I’ve ever seen. When you write it down, it actually sounds even more daft than it was. In some ways better than it could have been - if those rumours of us being prepared to drop thirty odd mil on Delap, we would have basically bet the entire farm on unproven kids. Edited 13 November, 2022 by CB Fry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 13 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: why would they let him go mid-season? They might buy someone new themselves, Wood would be good for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 I think it’ll be maybe one or two from the EFL that we’ll bring in. Anyone expecting the Gakpo signing should get real straight away. He’s destined for better things, especially after the season so far - he’ll probably end up at Man United or Liverpool. I can’t see us spending stupid money this January, a bit of money yes, but it’ll not be a Newcastle revolution like last January. SR won’t spend another £50m having already spent over £100m; and knowing full well we’d like not get any player sales as our squad just isn’t good enough, who would want any of them right now? 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Iliman Ndiaye of Sheffield Utd looks worth a punt. Strong, quick, bags of tricks/skill and a good finisher. However, he's not a tall guy so wouldn't be much of a target man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Marcus Thuram is banging them in for Monchengladbach this season. Contract up at the end of the season. Other Prem teams interested apparently. https://youtu.be/gg6YXidZbuQ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 22 hours ago, Badger said: Age 28. Agree he looks like something we need, but at that age doesn’t satisfy one of the “metrics” we use (in current parlance). Unless there’s been a change in the clubs signing policy I think we can rule that one out. Traore mentioned in an earlier post, age 21, is more in keeping with Saints strategy. Personally I’d like to see us relax the age targets but that remains to be seen. I think 28 would be fine within the clubs policy, whilst we tend to go more for the 21-24 sort of bracket we have occasionally signed an older player over the years. It's hardly like he's 32. I mean 28 I think was the age we got Pelle in the past?. Culeta-Car is 26, Armstrong must have been 26, and wasn't Ings 26/27? So not too different to those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 14 hours ago, The Kraken said: Well, we had a bonzer strategy of bringing in a guy who used to recruit for the Man City youth team, we let him him sign a bunch of untried nippers from Man City for huge money and expected they’d slot straight into our first team, then he left us straight after the transfer window shut so that he could go somewhere else. Its not the best strategy I’ve ever seen. When you write it down, it actually sounds even more daft than it was. You forgot the bit about him going to the club that wants to sign probably the best of the "nippers" he brought in from us in the next window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 1 hour ago, The Cat said: Marcus Thuram is banging them in for Monchengladbach this season. Contract up at the end of the season. Other Prem teams interested apparently. https://youtu.be/gg6YXidZbuQ Looks a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 15 hours ago, The Kraken said: Well, we had a bonzer strategy of bringing in a guy who used to recruit for the Man City youth team, we let him him sign a bunch of untried nippers from Man City for huge money and expected they’d slot straight into our first team, then he left us straight after the transfer window shut so that he could go somewhere else. Its not the best strategy I’ve ever seen. When you write it down, it actually sounds even more daft than it was. Havent heard this word for ages, reminds me of this legend joe mangel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Wait are people suggesting we shop for a striker in the the championship again 🤣 I've got a bridge to sell you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Wait are people suggesting we shop for a striker in the the championship again 🤣 I've got a bridge to sell you Are you suggesting not a single Championship striker could ever step up and score goals in the Premier League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Caleta-Car and Aribo are both 26 so clearly the SR policy doesn’t completely rule out players who have a little bit of experience behind them, so hopefully they’ve got their eyes on a prolific striker of any age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, saintant said: Are you suggesting not a single Championship striker could ever step up and score goals in the Premier League? Nope I am suggesting only the ones we buy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Saints are going to need to see a pick in performances and results by early January if we're going to see any flicker of interest from a decent goalscorer. Fail to get something from BHA, Fulham & Forest and we'll be looking into a long, dark tunnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 31 minutes ago, saintwbu said: Caleta-Car and Aribo are both 26 so clearly the SR policy doesn’t completely rule out players who have a little bit of experience behind them, so hopefully they’ve got their eyes on a prolific striker of any age. With both of those players I think value was the main driver. Both were significantly less than their previous valuations. Marseille signed DCC for £17m, we paid £8.5m. Aribo was so cheap it was a no brainer to bring him in. When it comes to our goalscoring salvation I don’t see us spending £25-30m on a player that might decrease in value. It would be the biggest transfer fee in our history and our model would need that player to increase in value like Broja/Gakpo. Sadly it won’t be either of those players now. In the real world, relegation is of course more expensive than buying a striker at his peak and losing money on him when he’s over the hill. However the summer window and even our recent managerial appointment shows that SR like to think outside of the box. We MUST sign a clinical goalscorer and I’m very intrigued to find out who that’s going to be. We wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 2 hours ago, saintant said: Looks a talent. Used to be in my mum s class in Paris around 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, The Cat said: Marcus Thuram is banging them in for Monchengladbach this season. Contract up at the end of the season. Other Prem teams interested apparently. https://youtu.be/gg6YXidZbuQ This is the sort of player we should be after. Decent finisher and has good experience in a top league. Didn't have the best season last year but as you say, he's scored 10 goals already this season. Edited 13 November, 2022 by Harry_SFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 23 hours ago, Turkish said: I still can’t quite believe we managed to spend £80m in the summer, the first season in years we’ve not had to sell to buy and we’re now significantly worse than we were last season Which part of last season? The beginning or the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 16 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: This is the sort of player we should be after. Decent finisher and has good experience in a top league. Didn't have the best season last year but as you say, he's scored 10 goals already this season. Issue is with six months left on his contract, what's the point in joining a club in the mix for relegation when he can wait six months, keep scoring goals and then have the pick of clubs at the end of the season with a bigger contract because he's a free transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patches O Houlihan Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 8 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I think it’ll be maybe one or two from the EFL that we’ll bring in. Anyone expecting the Gakpo signing should get real straight away. He’s destined for better things, especially after the season so far - he’ll probably end up at Man United or Liverpool. I can’t see us spending stupid money this January, a bit of money yes, but it’ll not be a Newcastle revolution like last January. SR won’t spend another £50m having already spent over £100m; and knowing full well we’d like not get any player sales as our squad just isn’t good enough, who would want any of them right now? 😅 Chelsea offered us 50m for Lavia before the summer window closed... Not saying we should sell him: We ought to be building the team around him so that he wants to stay a year longer than we might normally manage. Salisu appears to be running his contract down. Again I'd rather keep him on a new contract. Don't think he has kicked on enough for a really big move since his early promising signs. AA would sell to a Championship club - but not for lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 9 hours ago, JRM said: They might buy someone new themselves, Wood would be good for us. Yep good strong presence up front and gets consistently 10+ goals a season. We won’t sign him though as he’s 30 so 12 years too old for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 (edited) Hardly any of our players are worth big money, nor will they go to a big club. The only teams bidding for Adam Armstrong or Diallo are going to be Championship/low end teams; and they aren’t going to be paying as much as we did for them as they haven’t proven anything at a higher level. Sport Republic aren’t going to get any money coming in for the shower of shite we currently have under contract, and they aren’t going to be spending £50m again having spent £100m+ in the summer. Nathan Jones coming in is likely a sign of “You’re good with younger players, here is a team of younger players, we’ll give you a small amount to spend but you’ll largely have to work with what you’ve already got. Good luck.” I think anyone that believes we’re looking for a £30m player or are going to be spending another £50m+ this January needs to give their head a wobble. 🤣 🤷🏻♂️ Edited 13 November, 2022 by FarehamSaintJames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 6 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Hardly any of our players are worth big money, nor will they go to a big club. The only teams bidding for Adam Armstrong or Diallo are going to be Championship/low end teams; and they aren’t going to be paying as much as we did for them as they haven’t proven anything at a higher level. Sport Republic aren’t going to get any money coming in for the shower of shite we currently have under contract, and they aren’t going to be spending £50m again having spent £100m+ in the summer. Nathan Jones coming in is likely a sign of “You’re good with younger players, here is a team of younger players, we’ll give you a small amount to spend but you’ll largely have to work with what you’ve already got. Good luck.” I think anyone that believes we’re looking for a £30m player or are going to be spending another £50m+ this January needs to give their head a wobble. 🤣 🤷🏻♂️ We bid c£40m for Gakpo... So why wouldn't we be looking to spend that in Jan? I guess it may be a little less as we've had to pay off Ralph since then, but the money should still be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, Barsiem said: We bid c£40m for Gakpo... So why wouldn't we be looking to spend that in Jan? I guess it may be a little less as we've had to pay off Ralph since then, but the money should still be there Theoretically. But the “buy teenagers approach” you’d say based on league position, isn’t working right now. I just think we’ll go for some established Football League players with a bit of a back bone on them. Gyork (can’t spell his name) from Coventry maybe? Players along those lines, etc 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 Expect a couple of lads from Luton then.... On a serious note regarding Paul Onuachu 28 or 29 I don't give damm if he scores the goals to keep us in the Premier League.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 10 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I think it’ll be maybe one or two from the EFL that we’ll bring in. Anyone expecting the Gakpo signing should get real straight away. He’s destined for better things, especially after the season so far - he’ll probably end up at Man United or Liverpool. I can’t see us spending stupid money this January, a bit of money yes, but it’ll not be a Newcastle revolution like last January. SR won’t spend another £50m having already spent over £100m; and knowing full well we’d like not get any player sales as our squad just isn’t good enough, who would want any of them right now? 😅 If it's a choice between spending stupid money on a proven goal scorer to give us a shot of staying up, and not doing that, I think they'll choose the former. Obviously a good goal scorer at a decent price would be great, but they are as rare as hen's teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 All we wanted was a striker and Bournemouth got Keifer Moore. He would have done for us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 5 hours ago, stevy777_x said: Used to be in my mum s class in Paris around 20 years ago. Can't she tap him up on Facebook (if a page exists for ex-pupils) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 23 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Expect a couple of lads from Luton then.... On a serious note regarding Paul Onuachu 28 or 29 I don't give damm if he scores the goals to keep us in the Premier League.. LuckNumber7 posted a link to an article on the match thread taken from a Luton article in which one of their directors said: Quote Asked if there were any restrictions on Southampton taking any of Luton’s players, Sweet said: “They are no different to any other club right now. You can’t restrict movement on players, it would be illegal. “If they come in in January, it means they have to pay a higher price than any other club, if that is the case. “And, that isn’t a message out to anywhere saying we have players available for sale in January. Everybody knows what this business is like. If someone offered this football club enough money for me, I would probably sell myself and give the money to the club! The club needs money to carry on but they have to pay more than everybody else.” https://thelutonian.com/its-a-sexy-project-everything-chief-exec-gary-sweet-said-on-search-for-new-luton-boss/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 13 November, 2022 Share Posted 13 November, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 12:20, Turkish said: I still can’t quite believe we managed to spend £80m in the summer, the first season in years we’ve not had to sell to buy and we’re now significantly worse than we were last season 4 points worse and 4 places. I don’t think that’s significantly worse. What’s worse is the ill feeling and pessimism of some of our ‘fans’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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