Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 November, 2022 Share Posted 5 November, 2022 19 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: He's definitely a "safe" midfielder, but if he had the passing ability of De Bruyne he wouldn't be playing for us. Personally I think he's just fine, probably not quite at that top level and probably never will be. But I do think he'd look better in a better side. He’s clearly not at De Bruyne’s level, however he could be our version of Saha or to some extent even MLT. At the moment he’s neither a really competent defensive mid or a link-up attack minded mid…his set pieces are not as potent. To be honest I’m struggling to see his value at all, which is a shame because he’s definitely got the ability to be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 Luis Suarez will be a free agent in January. He’s 35 now but we could do a lot worse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 6 November, 2022 Share Posted 6 November, 2022 PSV Eindhoven director Marcel Brands has said Leeds made an offer of £30m plus £11m in bonuses for Netherlands winger Cody Gakpo, 23, last summer. (ESPN - in Dutch) No doubt putting it out there ahead of January window, to drum up some serious money. But shows what we were bidding against in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: PSV Eindhoven director Marcel Brands has said Leeds made an offer of £30m plus £11m in bonuses for Netherlands winger Cody Gakpo, 23, last summer. (ESPN - in Dutch) No doubt putting it out there ahead of January window, to drum up some serious money. But shows what we were bidding against in the end. If we're not willing to operate in that sort of market, then we will be relegated. What we're 'up against' are PL teams, if we cannot compete with other PL teams then we should pack up and travel to Millwall. Football has moved on from the days you could pick up a Wanyama or VVD for £10m and as a club we've never quite moved with the times. Expecting to find another Mane for £10m and ending up with Remond is an example of that. Edited 7 November, 2022 by S-Clarke 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 2 hours ago, Turkish said: Luis Suarez will be a free agent in January. He’s 35 now but we could do a lot worse Cue the "we need extra bite in attack" jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 3 hours ago, Turkish said: Luis Suarez will be a free agent in January. He’s 35 now but we could do a lot worse Could do with some extra bite up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 8 hours ago, S-Clarke said: If we're not willing to operate in that sort of market, then we will be relegated. What we're 'up against' are PL teams, if we cannot compete with other PL teams then we should pack up and travel to Millwall. Football has moved on from the days you could pick up a Wanyama or VVD for £10m and as a club we've never quite moved with the times. Expecting to find another Mane for £10m and ending up with Remond is an example of that. It's a fair point. I'm not over the fee for David Hirst. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 Who is Luton’s current no.9? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 (edited) Luton striker adebayo? Edited 7 November, 2022 by Baird of the land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 November, 2022 Share Posted 7 November, 2022 Mo El is much better 🤣 https://twitter.com/TheSaintCentre/status/1589704263076548608?s=20&t=iOC_y87A8tQe8UsqUoGESQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 Pelle, short contract till end of season? i know he's 37 but could probably teach Che and Adam a thing or two, and he's free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 22:34, Turkish said: Luis Suarez will be a free agent in January. He’s 35 now but we could do a lot worse I have contacts at the club, apparently we are confirming the signing of Suarez today at 2:30. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Marsdinho said: I have contacts at the club, apparently we are confirming the signing of Suarez today at 2:30. As manager?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 22:34, Turkish said: Luis Suarez will be a free agent in January. He’s 35 now but we could do a lot worse Joking aside Nathan Jones is probably one of the few managers that could offer a new perspective to Suarez at 35. Never to old to learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 On 07/11/2022 at 13:47, Baird of the land said: Luton striker adebayo? Carlton Morris, their No9, top scorer - 8 goals, 3 assists. Will try to watch him if I can find a stream tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 8 November, 2022 Share Posted 8 November, 2022 43 minutes ago, the saint in winchester said: Carlton Morris, their No9, top scorer - 8 goals, 3 assists. Will try to watch him if I can find a stream tonight. Posted link in new manager thread for game tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 November, 2022 Share Posted 9 November, 2022 Interesting that there is a rumour circulating that Semmens penny pinched and cost us a big signing that had been agreed by SR. This piece i've just found seems to tie in with that Cody Gakpo: Southampton ready to increase transfer offer with Leeds also interested | Football News | Sky Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 9 November, 2022 Share Posted 9 November, 2022 19 hours ago, the saint in winchester said: Carlton Morris, their No9, top scorer - 8 goals, 3 assists. Will try to watch him if I can find a stream tonight. looked pretty good last night, probably prem quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 November, 2022 Share Posted 9 November, 2022 Parma left-back Jayden Oosterwolde. http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-send-transfer-men-watch-21-year-old-fullback-impressing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 9 November, 2022 Share Posted 9 November, 2022 33 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Parma left-back Jayden Oosterwolde. http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-send-transfer-men-watch-21-year-old-fullback-impressing/ In the one position we're probably best stocked! 🤣 Perraud, KWP, Larios, Djenepo, then further down Small, J-Rod II, Meghoma etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 10 November, 2022 Author Share Posted 10 November, 2022 I find it hard to believe that we *won't* sign a striker. But, to sign a good one at this stage of the season will probably cost a fortune. So, we'll either spend a fortune (not likely?) or we'll get a not-very-good striker to join the collection that we already have at the club... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 2 hours ago, mcbendy said: I find it hard to believe that we *won't* sign a striker. But, to sign a good one at this stage of the season will probably cost a fortune. So, we'll either spend a fortune (not likely?) or we'll get a not-very-good striker to join the collection that we already have at the club... It was a huge cock up in the summer to not bring in one. Joe Shields’ fault and then he fucked off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 Not going to be many young strikers available for a price we can afford in January Noah Okafor (22) with Salzburg is a shout and he’s been good this season but with Sesko leaving RB Salzburg next summer I think they will want to keep Okafor around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 January hard window for a striker, I wonder if we'll look at the championship. Viktor Gyorekes looks to be one of the best strikers in the division, seems Everton picked Maupay over him in the summer because Coventry wanted more money upfront than Brentford did. 17 league goals last season and 7 so far this. 6ft2, but looks like he has good movement and finishing. Has given some opposition defences the run around this season by all accounts. Not a recommendation by myself as such, just thinking what the club will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 4 minutes ago, saintrich said: January hard window for a striker, I wonder if we'll look at the championship. Well Armstrong and Adams both scored a lot of goals in that league. Risky buying another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 1 minute ago, skintsaint said: Well Armstrong and Adams both scored a lot of goals in that league. Risky buying another. Ben Brereton-Diaz. You heard it here first 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 15:13, qwertyell said: February at a minimum, I reckon. End of April he did his ACL. 9 months is normally standard. Right back is therefore an issue. If not Wan, then maybe Djed Spence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 19 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Ben Brereton-Diaz. You heard it here first I wonder if Wolves and Leeds might also be considering him. He'd be another player I suggested we sign when he was a nipper only for us to recruit many years later. With Redmond and Aribo not exactly working out, I am wondering if we should pass on Diaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 42 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Ben Brereton-Diaz. You heard it here first You kept going on about him in the last transfer window in a bit of a disparaging way so I assume you feel the same now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 I think if we’re signing a striker it’s going to be in a few different brackets. 1) Playing in England with less that 18 months (probably 6) left on their contract. 2) Playing for a European club that’s gone out of European competition and they need the money 3) In someone’s academy but we think good enough to play 4) Squad filler for another club on loan Will be very interesting to see who we end up with, because we need someone to come in and hit the ground running, but also we won’t be ripped off. I don’t doubt we’ll go back in for Gakpo, but no chance of signing him now IMO, or try get Broja back on loan for 6 months. Let’s hope we don’t have a deal close for a player then they have a storming World Cup and their value multiplies by 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 Gyorekes was excellent for Coventry in the FA Cup game against us. Our only chance with Gakpo is by basically saying you are going to be our main man, if we get relegated you can leave and if we get an offer at £x million we will leave let you leave. Although I think that ship has sailed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Saint Garrett said: I think if we’re signing a striker it’s going to be in a few different brackets. 1) Playing in England with less that 18 months (probably 6) left on their contract. 2) Playing for a European club that’s gone out of European competition and they need the money 3) In someone’s academy but we think good enough to play 4) Squad filler for another club on loan Will be very interesting to see who we end up with, because we need someone to come in and hit the ground running, but also we won’t be ripped off. I don’t doubt we’ll go back in for Gakpo, but no chance of signing him now IMO, or try get Broja back on loan for 6 months. Let’s hope we don’t have a deal close for a player then they have a storming World Cup and their value multiplies by 10. #2 please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 15:13, qwertyell said: February at a minimum, I reckon. End of April he did his ACL. 9 months is normally standard. He was back running on the pitches like a month ago, I think he's ahead of schedule. Some players come back from ACLs in 6 months, so i think he'll be ready in the new year. I mean to be honest he was one of our best players last season, certainly for the first half, having him, Lavia and KWP out over recent games is a massive blow to the squad and impacts performances. Just getting those 3 back fit will improve the team massively. Our fullbacks have always been key in creative play as well. ---------------------- I think the Gakpo ship has sailed, he seems to be getting better and better, he has 18 goals and 16 assists in all competitions so far this year from just 30 games. In the league he has 21 goal contributions from just 13 games. I think clearly you'll see a Champions League level club go for him, maybe not a Man City or Bayern level just yet but I think like a Spurs, Dortmund, Milan etc. level club. -------------------------- Didn't Manji say in another thread that we already have two signings lined up for Jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 3 hours ago, saintrich said: January hard window for a striker, I wonder if we'll look at the championship. Viktor Gyorekes looks to be one of the best strikers in the division, seems Everton picked Maupay over him in the summer because Coventry wanted more money upfront than Brentford did. 17 league goals last season and 7 so far this. 6ft2, but looks like he has good movement and finishing. Has given some opposition defences the run around this season by all accounts. Not a recommendation by myself as such, just thinking what the club will do. Some merit to Gyorekes but he lacks pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Ben Brereton-Diaz. You heard it here first I watch a lot of him (for obvious reasons) and am not entirely convinced. He knows where the goal Is right enough and works hard but he is ultra greedy and hardly ever plays in another person who is better placed. Flying out to Chile every other month is knackering him. He looked shattered last week. Maybe we can let them have AA back in part exchange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 3 hours ago, tajjuk said: He was back running on the pitches like a month ago, I think he's ahead of schedule. Some players come back from ACLs in 6 months, so i think he'll be ready in the new year. I mean to be honest he was one of our best players last season, certainly for the first half, having him, Lavia and KWP out over recent games is a massive blow to the squad and impacts performances. Just getting those 3 back fit will improve the team massively. Our fullbacks have always been key in creative play as well. Someone on here with more knowledge than me about ACL injuries pointed to the fact that running in straight lines is a very different from being fit enough to handle the rigours and movement of playing football, so he may still be a while before we see him. He started extremely well and was fantastic going forward initially, but IMO he was pretty average to poor for a while before he got injured. KWP should have replaced long before he did. His defending is not the greatest at times. He ball watches badly. Obviously I want to see him back and pushing for a starting place, but I am not confident he will solve all our ills. Creatively certainly is one of those, so maybe I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 23 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: I watch a lot of him (for obvious reasons) and am not entirely convinced. He knows where the goal Is right enough and works hard but he is ultra greedy and hardly ever plays in another person who is better placed. Flying out to Chile every other month is knackering him. He looked shattered last week. Maybe we can let them have AA back in part exchange. Do you think he has the quality to play in the Prem? The AA idea is not crazy, but we'd have to give him a massive payoff to balance the different wage bills. Those moves never happen. Have to say that I am not terribly fussed about how greedy a striker is. I want him to shoot on site if he is on form, not pass. Armstrong is completely selfless and that has not helped us at all. When strikers are passing rather than shooting its because they have lost confidence in themselves and are taking the easy way out. OK, yes there will be the odd occasion when a square pass rather than a shot would have meant a goal, but in general strikers shoot better than they pass - and with the game as fast as it is the passing window is often very small anyway - so just take on yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 1 hour ago, Kenilworthy said: Some merit to Gyorekes but he lacks pace Will that concern Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chez said: Do you think he has the quality to play in the Prem? The AA idea is not crazy, but we'd have to give him a massive payoff to balance the different wage bills. Those moves never happen. Have to say that I am not terribly fussed about how greedy a striker is. I want him to shoot on site if he is on form, not pass. Armstrong is completely selfless and that has not helped us at all. When strikers are passing rather than shooting its because they have lost confidence in themselves and are taking the easy way out. OK, yes there will be the odd occasion when a square pass rather than a shot would have meant a goal, but in general strikers shoot better than they pass - and with the game as fast as it is the passing window is often very small anyway - so just take on yourself. He's probably worth a punt is the answer. It will be interesting to see him v Burnley on Sunday. A quality striker does bring others into play but BB hardly gets his head up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 18 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: He's probably worth a punt is the answer. It will be interesting to see him v Burnley on Sunday. A quality striker does bring others into play but BB hardly gets his head up. We took a punt on Armstrong and he is massively not Premier League quality. We would have reached the point in January where we cannot afford to take a chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 33 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: We took a punt on Armstrong and he is massively not Premier League quality. We would have reached the point in January where we cannot afford to take a chance. We can if we get in another established striker. Personally I'm hoping for a creative midfielder, two strikers and a cm. Probably unlikely in January but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 2 hours ago, Kenilworthy said: Some merit to Gyorekes but he lacks pace Don't think Haaland would win many 100 meter races and Adam Armstrong is far quicker than him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekelund Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 55 minutes ago, saintant said: Don't think Haaland would win many 100 meter races and Adam Armstrong is far quicker than him as well. Haaland is rapid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 1 hour ago, saintant said: Don't think Haaland would win many 100 meter races and Adam Armstrong is far quicker than him as well. You must be talking about the Haaland that Keane crippled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ekelund said: Haaland is rapid! Yeah, stand corrected on that 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris cooper Posted 11 November, 2022 Share Posted 11 November, 2022 14 hours ago, Toadhall Saint said: You kept going on about him in the last transfer window in a bit of a disparaging way so I assume you feel the same now? Who would you pick then 🐸 toady ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 11 hours ago, Chris cooper said: Who would you pick then 🐸 toady ? Not my job but he would be ok? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Lassina Traore - Shaktar Donetsk: 6 goals in 7 apps, although he pledged this season to them during the summer, he may fancy getting the F outa Dodge. Similar to Drogba in build and style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 Said it numerous times Paul onuachu scored like 12 goals this season. Good record at Genk the targetman type we are crying out for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 November, 2022 Share Posted 12 November, 2022 8 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Said it numerous times Paul onuachu scored like 12 goals this season. Good record at Genk the targetman type we are crying out for He certainly scores a shed load of goals. Did he pay against us when us was at Midtjylland? I don't remember him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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