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30 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Just been looking through the Argentinan papers https://www.ole.com.ar/futbol-primera/racing-carlosalcaraz-benfica_0_mhUpSpAGmc.html

And they say with Alcazar that Benfica/Wolves and Us are interested and have contacted his agent to understand his conditions etc. Apparently though nothing further has come from Benfica yet (depends on Enzo Fernandes i guess) but Racing are demanding 15m euro's or 13.2m GBP for the player.

Seems doable but the only question i have is if we buy this player is as its the off season down there how fit is he or are we going to have another 6 weeks before he's EPL fit.

I'm sure he'll be as fit as the rest of our plodders.

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I've seen him several times recently, Quick, tenacious and a good finisher. Watch Celtic's opener against Rangers last Monday. Japanese international and 25 years of age. Looks a decent player. Aribo and Elyonoussie could hardly be called quick or tenacious. 

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5 minutes ago, derry said:

I've seen him several times recently, Quick, tenacious and a good finisher. Watch Celtic's opener against Rangers last Monday. Japanese international and 25 years of age. Looks a decent player. Aribo and Elyonoussie could hardly be called quick or tenacious. 

Doesn't he play on the same side an position as Orsic ?

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That's where he played on Monday but he looks two footed. You'll have to check his Japanese record. Cracking finish for goal nearly central after robbing Rangers around half way, ran through and comprehensively beat the keeper with a cool finish.

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32 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Armstrong and Moi currently in our team played and scored a lot of goals in the SPL, unless someone is ridiculous like Van Dijk its a no from me signing guys from there.

 

He's Japanese though. So it'll be different.

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4 hours ago, Dman said:

I don’t think he fancies it tbh. Always seems to be getting injured / going down. 
 

Looked like he couldn’t wait to come off, but hopefully I’m wrong on that account and that was just his playing style rather than attitude 

Body language reading returns to the forum.

It was a nasty slip, possibly caused by the astroturf where the managers stand, and at the time I thought he may have done his cruciate. He tried to walk it off, but was in trouble. 

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28 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

From what my Celtic mate tells me and what I've seen of Maeda he's very workmanlike. Not a bad player by any means but not one I'd be overly excited about either.

Agree with him. I'm not excited.

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35 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

From what my Celtic mate tells me and what I've seen of Maeda he's very workmanlike. Not a bad player by any means but not one I'd be overly excited about either.

Probably miles better than our normal dross. Aribo, Elyonoussi, Walcott, A Armstrong and quick and a hard worker. Looking at what we have to suffer at the moment and certainly quicker and harder working and doesn't look like our resident chickens. Reported we are looking at him and again at the S cup semi final this weekend.

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30 minutes ago, Chez said:

Body language reading returns to the forum.

It was a nasty slip, possibly caused by the astroturf where the managers stand, and at the time I thought he may have done his cruciate. He tried to walk it off, but was in trouble. 

I thought that he trod on something.

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Maeda was impressive in the WC, scored vs Croatia.  If we got him it would be an upgrade: 

"Arthur Papas, who also coached Maeda during his time at Yokohama, has said Maeda "possesses athletic qualities far superior to most players at the professional level", hailing his pace and sprinting"

 

He sounds "Jonno Quick"

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41 minutes ago, Killers Knee said:

Maeda was impressive in the WC, scored vs Croatia.  If we got him it would be an upgrade: 

"Arthur Papas, who also coached Maeda during his time at Yokohama, has said Maeda "possesses athletic qualities far superior to most players at the professional level", hailing his pace and sprinting"

 

He sounds "Jonno Quick"

Hasn't Yoshida been seen at our last couple of games? Maybe recommending his team mate to us ( or us to him)? Or helping to ensure a move goes smoothly ?

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10 minutes ago, Wurzel said:

Hasn't Yoshida been seen at our last couple of games? Maybe recommending his team mate to us ( or us to him)? Or helping to ensure a move goes smoothly ?

He was definitely at the Brighton game - bumped into him in the stairwell after the game.  He had a couple of mates with him but don't ask me to identify them from their ear lobes, I was way too pissed by that point!

Edit - just googled him and I definitely would have remembered meeting a member of the Yakusa! The two mates were smaller and both had hair...

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Anyone reckon our next signing is going to be Walcott or Bednarek on a new four year deal? 👀

Jokes aside, it’s very refreshing to see the club go for experience and not another child. Several more need to come in to even give us a fighting chance of staying up.

A change of manager would probably help too. 🤣

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52 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Anyone reckon our next signing is going to be Walcott or Bednarek on a new four year deal? 👀

Jokes aside, it’s very refreshing to see the club go for experience and not another child. Several more need to come in to even give us a fighting chance of staying up.

A change of manager would probably help too. 🤣

Hard to disagree.

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7 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Southampton have been overrating players from the Scottish league since Neil McCann

We’ve probably signed more good than bad from Scotland!  Wanyama, van dijk, davis, armstrong have all been good signings for us!

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7 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Anyone reckon our next signing is going to be Walcott or Bednarek on a new four year deal? 👀

Jokes aside, it’s very refreshing to see the club go for experience and not another child. Several more need to come in to even give us a fighting chance of staying up.

A change of manager would probably help too. 🤣

Was that a joke? 

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1 hour ago, a1ex2001 said:

We’ve probably signed more good than bad from Scotland!  Wanyama, van dijk, davis, armstrong have all been good signings for us!

completing the set:

Forster, Hooiveld, Stephen Crainey, McCann, Nieimi, Kanchelskis, Scott Marshall, Derek Allen, Colin Cramb, Paul McDonald, Paul Sheerin, Terry Hurlock, Ian Andrews, Ken Armstrong, Jim Steele, Alley McLeod, Gerry O'Brien, Eric Martin, Campbell Forsyth, Dave Paton and Ian Black.

 

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27 minutes ago, Chez said:

completing the set:

Forster, Hooiveld, Stephen Crainey, McCann, Nieimi, Kanchelskis, Scott Marshall, Derek Allen, Colin Cramb, Paul McDonald, Paul Sheerin, Terry Hurlock, Ian Andrews, Ken Armstrong, Jim Steele, Alley McLeod, Gerry O'Brien, Eric Martin, Campbell Forsyth, Dave Paton and Ian Black.

 

Steve Davis

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40 minutes ago, Chez said:

completing the set:

Forster, Hooiveld, Stephen Crainey, McCann, Nieimi, Kanchelskis, Scott Marshall, Derek Allen, Colin Cramb, Paul McDonald, Paul Sheerin, Terry Hurlock, Ian Andrews, Ken Armstrong, Jim Steele, Alley McLeod, Gerry O'Brien, Eric Martin, Campbell Forsyth, Dave Paton and Ian Black.

 

Ah! Ian Black, those were the days. I was ten when he was transferred to Fulham, and I cried. I didn't know it was only the beginning of a lifetime of transferring our best players. How many top stars have stayed? Paine, Holmes, Le Tiss and JWP. Not many in 75 years 

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1 hour ago, Chez said:

completing the set:

Forster, Hooiveld, Stephen Crainey, McCann, Nieimi, Kanchelskis, Scott Marshall, Derek Allen, Colin Cramb, Paul McDonald, Paul Sheerin, Terry Hurlock, Ian Andrews, Ken Armstrong, Jim Steele, Alley McLeod, Gerry O'Brien, Eric Martin, Campbell Forsyth, Dave Paton and Ian Black.

 

It was a slightly flippant comment but in fairness my original post was "since Neil McCann", which rules out most of these. The Scottish league has gone down a lot in quality since the 80s and earlier when you could easily pick up quality players.

Nowadays a player has to be really excelling to be good enough for the Premier League. Wanyama and Van Dijk were outstanding prospects. Armstrong got 15 goals in a season. Davis got 13 assists and 5 goals. Maeda is nowhere near this. Neither was Aribo.

Also you missed Skacel 😀

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36 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

It was a slightly flippant comment but in fairness my original post was "since Neil McCann", which rules out most of these. The Scottish league has gone down a lot in quality since the 80s and earlier when you could easily pick up quality players.

Nowadays a player has to be really excelling to be good enough for the Premier League. Wanyama and Van Dijk were outstanding prospects. Armstrong got 15 goals in a season. Davis got 13 assists and 5 goals. Maeda is nowhere near this. Neither was Aribo.

Also you missed Skacel 😀

Probably because he’s not signed yet 

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37 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

It was a slightly flippant comment but in fairness my original post was "since Neil McCann", which rules out most of these. The Scottish league has gone down a lot in quality since the 80s and earlier when you could easily pick up quality players.

Nowadays a player has to be really excelling to be good enough for the Premier League. Wanyama and Van Dijk were outstanding prospects. Armstrong got 15 goals in a season. Davis got 13 assists and 5 goals. Maeda is nowhere near this. Neither was Aribo.

Also you missed Skacel 😀

You are right, and I missed Henri Camara too, although technically they were signed from Marseilles and wolves.

I think there are still players worth looking at from Scotland, but both the national side and league is weak, so quality is thin on the ground. 

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Just now, Turkish said:

Why are we being linked with wingers and midfielders when Jones tactic 5-3-2 and lump it 70 yards? Surely we should be trying to get a 6ft 4 striker in as a priority. 

It is in keeping with the lack of consistent plan or direction for the club.

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Terrem Moffi. I watched his last two games and he only had a couple of touches and looked totally disconnected and just trotted around. I couldn't get it out of my head, how could he have scored his goals playing like that. I've had a good look round to try and find the answer. What I found was he looked amazing around the penalty area, looked super aware and one on one with the keeper scored in all sorts of ways. It may be he is on his way somewhere and that was the reason for the disconnection. He certainly looks like a goalscorer and although two footed and good in the air looks to have a cracking left foot. Maybe that's why he is being looked at. 

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7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Why are we being linked with wingers and midfielders when Jones tactic 5-3-2 and lump it 70 yards? Surely we should be trying to get a 6ft 4 striker in as a priority. 

I really don't think is is Jones' tactic at all but rather a reflection of our squad's defensive fragility and complete lack of confidence

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5 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

Need a top quality striker now. Please do everything we possibly can to get Ings back.

Telegraph reported we recently failed in our attempts to convince him to come back and  be King of the Scummers. Big shame as he’s exactly what we have been missing, since he left!

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8 minutes ago, Christophenburg said:

I really don't think is is Jones' tactic at all but rather a reflection of our squad's defensive fragility and complete lack of confidence

I didn't think it was either - more a case of fans seeing long balls more because the manager has a reputation for long ball football  - but CBs playing angled long balls out wide happened quite a lot on the Forest game.

We still passed it short too, but Lavia was pretty poor (pus space was tight for him) and other midfielders didn't seem to find space to receive balls from defenders, so perhaps options became limited.

I find it hard to believe the manager is telling these Prem players to smash it long, all the time, and even harder to believe they are saying yeah, OK, lets do that.

I wonder if our stats guys can tell us if there has been a change in the percentage of long balls since NJ arrived.

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11 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

if we lose stuart armstrong this window, the already pissed off fanbase may get even more toxic. even the happy clappers will be storming the pitch. 

Not sure why their is such a clamour for Stuart Armstrong to play. It's not like Branford leaving Le Tiss on the bench. If it's simply because he is regarded as being better than Ely, then fair enough, but in reality he's done fuck all for quite a long time...and that's from someone that loves his bursting runs.

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6 minutes ago, Chez said:

Not sure why their is such a clamour for Stuart Armstrong to play. It's not like Branford leaving Le Tiss on the bench. If it's simply because he is regarded as being better than Ely, then fair enough, but in reality he's done fuck all for quite a long time...and that's from someone that loves his bursting runs.

Also, he's evidently been unable to play 90 minutes for quite a while now. There's not some sort of conspiracy here, he's just a talented player with fitness concerns. The other night he was grimacing after a short burst and clearly took a booking because he was unable to chase back. Not sure any team able to pay his wages would be particularly interested in him for those reasons. 

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