January 2023 Transfer Window

[Chewy]

28 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

A goal threat from midfield, remember those? 

I barely remember us having a goal

threat from a striker tbf

[SotonianWill]

5 minutes ago, notnowcato said:

Do they?

Newcastle, Brighton did. ever heard of hyperbole?

[Chewy]

1 minute ago, SotonianWill said:

Newcastle, Brighton did. ever heard of hyperbole?

Is hyperbole any good?

A striker?

[notnowcato]

22 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

Newcastle, Brighton did. ever heard of hyperbole?

Pretty certain Solly was about 20 yards out. Is hyperbole like bullshit?

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Fairplay on Orisc these are his stats

He was Dinamo's best scorer in every competition.

2022/23: Oršić 13
2021/22: Oršić 20
2020/21: Oršić 24
2019/20: Oršić 21
2018/19: Oršić 13

He played 216 games for Dinamo and scored 91 goals. with 40 assists

In 70 European games, he scored 28 goals and registered 11 assists.

 Giving me Dusan the great vibes

 

Wish this had been kept under wraps until we'd signed him. Now it's out in the open we'll likely be gazumped.

[sotonjoe]

6 hours ago, Rebel said:

https://offthepitch.com/a/southampton-managing-director-squad-we-have-now-enables-us-return-profitability-next-two-three

this headline seems to outline our transfer strategy - buy young players and flip them

Calling Rupert Lowe to the main board...

[DT]

10 minutes ago, saintant said:

Wish this had been kept under wraps until we'd signed him. Now it's out in the open we'll likely be gazumped.

same. hope we can pull this one off but suspect there's a lot of dark arts around. his phone will be buzzing

[saint1977]

1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

 

Looks like there's legs to this one.

Much rather us take this approach with a player who's been regularly scoring goals and is in his peak years with the predicament we're in.

Orsic and he can create some chances for our horseshit strikers to put away (not). Type of player that could make an impact and good to see a player linked who isn’t practically out of school.

[whelk]

Croatians can go on forever

[Saint Fan CaM]

With Orsic and Ings we would immediately take a huge step up in attack quality. While Ings is now a devisive character it seems, we’re hardly in a position to expect anything more and at least he has some supposed passion for the club. Let’s hope SR can get this business done quickly and without penny pinching.

[Pamplemousse]

Let's hope Orsic can come in and hit the ground running before we coach him into an Elyounoussi 

[saint1977]

1 minute ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

With Orsic and Ings we would immediately take a huge step up in attack quality. While Ings is now a devisive character it seems, we’re hardly in a position to expect anything more and at least he has some supposed passion for the club. Let’s hope SR can get this business done quickly and without penny pinching.

Where’s the links to Ings?

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, saint1977 said:

Where’s the links to Ings?

Look further back in this thread.

[Sarisbury Saint]

We’ve been here before. Just get it done quickly or it will be another failure.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

8 minutes ago, Sarisbury Saint said:

We’ve been here before. Just get it done quickly or it will be another failure.

Agreed, if we have to pay over the odds in terms of wages and signing on fees, then so be it

[SNSUN]

20 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

With Orsic and Ings we would immediately take a huge step up in attack quality. While Ings is now a devisive character it seems, we’re hardly in a position to expect anything more and at least he has some supposed passion for the club. Let’s hope SR can get this business done quickly and without penny pinching.

I was a no to re-signing Ings previously but I reverse that now. We're in "last roll of the dice" territory and we need someone to come in straight away and deliver, not spend half a season settling in when it'll be too late. It's a no brainer now if we can make it happen.

Orsic looks decent, attacking player with good stats, experience and an international. Both would be welcome additions right now.

Needs to be done sooner rather than later though...

[Lighthouse]

13 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Agreed, if we have to pay over the odds in terms of wages and signing on fees, then so be it

People have said that about every transfer we’ve ever made. Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to just get Moi, Aribo and Mara done early. We’d have fair less, if anything, to spend now.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

People have said that about every transfer we’ve ever made. Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to just get Moi, Aribo and Mara done early. We’d have fair less, if anything, to spend now.

We simply have to do that now though. We don't have any other choice. Get what you are saying, but if we don't get quality through the door we are down.

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

People have said that about every transfer we’ve ever made. Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to just get Moi, Aribo and Mara done early. We’d have fair less, if anything, to spend now.

Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to get Gakpo and Ramos done, we’d have very little to do now

[CB Fry]

6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

People have said that about every transfer we’ve ever made. Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to just get Moi, Aribo and Mara done early. We’d have fair less, if anything, to spend now.

If we don't ever sign anyone we will never sign a bad player.

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

If we don't ever sign anyone we will never sign a bad player.

Please don’t float that idea to SR

[Convict Colony]

39 minutes ago, whelk said:

Croatians can go on forever

Hopefully

[Lighthouse]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to get Gakpo and Ramos done, we’d have very little to do now

Those players are not and never were coming here. Both have been heavily linked with Man Utd, one has just signed for Liverpool, barely four months after we were supposedly in for him. At most them and their agents were using us to try and force bigger teams to play their hand.

[Lighthouse]

11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

We simply have to do that now though. We don't have any other choice. Get what you are saying, but if we don't get quality through the door we are down.

Exactly what people said in summer and exactly what they’ll say next summer when we’re signing players for promotion.

[DT]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

Exactly what people said in summer and exactly what they’ll say next summer when we’re signing players for promotion.

We won’t be anywhere near the promotion places if we treat the squad the way we have done

[Bad Wolf]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Imagine if we’d paid over the odds to get Gakpo and Ramos done, we’d have very little to do now

Gakpo sure but wasn't everyone turning their nose up at Ramos in the summer?

[Bad Wolf]

I've been reliably informed by certain corners of our fanbase that the owners aren't investing money, have no ambition and will only sign teenagers to sell on for a profit. They've also advised me that no repeatable players will want to come and play for Nathan Jones. With that in mind, we clearly won't be signing this guy or even interested in doing so and all the journo's are wrong.

[DT]

4 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I've been reliably informed by certain corners of our fanbase that the owners aren't investing money, have no ambition and will only sign teenagers to sell on for a profit. They've also advised me that no repeatable players will want to come and play for Nathan Jones. With that in mind, we clearly won't be signing this guy or even interested in doing so and all the journo's are wrong.

What is a repeatable player?

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, DT said:

What is a repeatable player?

Eric Djemba Djemba.

[SotonianWill]

11 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I've been reliably informed by certain corners of our fanbase that the owners aren't investing money, have no ambition and will only sign teenagers to sell on for a profit. They've also advised me that no repeatable players will want to come and play for Nathan Jones. With that in mind, we clearly won't be signing this guy or even interested in doing so and all the journo's are wrong.

players like lavia and edozie have buy back clauses which would give us 30 million profit, each. I think we can afford 8 million plus for a player to stay in the prem.

[Turkish]

22 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Those players are not and never were coming here. Both have been heavily linked with Man Utd, one has just signed for Liverpool, barely four months after we were supposedly in for him. At most them and their agents were using us to try and force bigger teams to play their hand.

Who knows if they were or not, what we do know and has been stated by the clubs leaders is that two deals were close being done for two high profile attacking players and both didn’t happen, with strong rumours one didn’t happen because we were haggling over a couple of million. Unless the club are lying of course.

Edited 3 January, 2023 by Turkish

[SaintLondon]

[Bad Wolf]

15 minutes ago, DT said:

What is a repeatable player?

One with a stutter

[Give it to Ron]

4 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Who knows if they were or not, what we do know and has been stated by the clubs leaders is that two deals were close being done for two high profile attacking players and both didn’t happen, with strong rumours one didn’t happen because we were haggling over a couple of million. Unless the club are lying of course.

If we weren’t in for them wtf were we doing all summer then Lighthouse?

[Bad Wolf]

Imagine if they unveiled him before the game tomorrow. What a HUGE boost to the atmosphere that would be!

[hypochondriac]

28 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Those players are not and never were coming here. Both have been heavily linked with Man Utd, one has just signed for Liverpool, barely four months after we were supposedly in for him. At most them and their agents were using us to try and force bigger teams to play their hand.

So you're saying there's never been a circumstance where had we paid a bit more we would have secured a signing. 

[Saint_clark]

3 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

14 goals and 8 assists this season - including 1 goal and 2 assists at the world cup. Experience we've been crying out for. With Adams doing the hold up play, could be a really good addition.

[Scallysaint]

2 hours ago, DT said:

*waits for a club slightly above us to come in and get Orsic*

'You don't want to go to them. Look at where they are'

Agreed he looks a level above us I’m afraid no way he comes to Saints 

 

[verlaine1979]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Who knows if they were or not, what we do know and has been stated by the clubs leaders is that two deals were close being done for two high profile attacking players and both didn’t happen, with strong rumours one didn’t happen because we were haggling over a couple of million. Unless the club are lying of course.

I guess we'll never know, but lifting top players from Benfica and PSV always seemed like we were kidding ourselves. When was the last time we signed a starter from a first-rank European club?

Udinese, Zagreb and wherever that Argentinian kid plays are all more our speed.

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Who knows if they were or not, what we do know and has been stated by the clubs leaders is that two deals were close being done for two high profile attacking players and both didn’t happen, with strong rumours one didn’t happen because we were haggling over a couple of million. Unless the club are lying of course.

They also said they turned down £43m from Leeds. All of this just stinks of agents and selling clubs trying to gain leverage and force a deal through with bigger clubs to me. It was in Gakpo’s best interest to agree a deal with us and Leeds, even if he never had any intention of coming to either of us.

Nobody knows the exact details of what discussions were held but I certainly won’t be hanging my hat on the belief that we were half a Mayuka away from it being a done deal.

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

So you're saying there's never been a circumstance where had we paid a bit more we would have secured a signing. 

A signing, yes. A player Man Utd and Liverpool were seriously chasing, no.

[Saint Garrett]

6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

A signing, yes. A player Man Utd and Liverpool were seriously chasing, no.

Man Utd weren’t ever properly chasing him, IMO, not until Ten Haag started hoovering up the Eredivisie. Liverpool weren’t interested until the WC.

Im pretty certain we were very close to signing Gakpo, with him pulling the plug at the last minute due to a conversation with Van Gaal. 

Of course, as soon as Liverpool and Man Utd showed an interest after his great start this season, it was never going to happen. 

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

A signing, yes. A player Man Utd and Liverpool were seriously chasing, no.

It wasn't about the specific player, it was the principle. Given the situation we now find ourselves, we may now have to pay more than we otherwise would have done. There are clearly instances in the past where our reluctance to spend and our tendency to quibble over small amounts has led to us losing out on players. It's likely that we will not be able to afford to have that attitude so much in this window if we want any hope of survival. 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

18 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Imagine if they unveiled him before the game tomorrow. What a HUGE boost to the atmosphere that would be!

Get him in to press the button on the light show!!

[Suhari]

55 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Hopefully

Good lord!

[Lighthouse]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Given the situation we now find ourselves, we may now have to pay more than we otherwise would have done.

There’s no ‘may’ about it. January only ever represents awful value for money, unless a player is out of contract in summer. Nobody wants to sell decent players and knowing the perilous situation we’re in will only push prices up ever further. That’s why we have to be extra vigilant not to get taken to the cleaners for somebody not especially good. Whoever we sign is likely to be overpriced, without chucking extra money at a deal just to get it done quickly. Even that assumes extra money WILL get a done quickly, rather than simply pushing demands up even higher.

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

There are clearly instances in the past where our reluctance to spend and our tendency to quibble over small amounts has led to us losing out on players

No doubt that’s true but that’s not to say those players were necessarily decent. We missed out on some young Polish lad called Kaputska, who went to Leicester for £8m. No doubt we could have gotten him if we’d offered £11m and a massive contract but he ended up being a complete flop an vanished without a trace. It would have been a complete waste of money and we’d never have signed Hojbjerg.

Plus, you can’t just say that about the players we didn’t sign. We’d have ended up paying more for every other player we did sign, to the point we’d have had to sign fewer players.

[Turkish]

31 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

They also said they turned down £43m from Leeds. All of this just stinks of agents and selling clubs trying to gain leverage and force a deal through with bigger clubs to me. It was in Gakpo’s best interest to agree a deal with us and Leeds, even if he never had any intention of coming to either of us.

Nobody knows the exact details of what discussions were held but I certainly won’t be hanging my hat on the belief that we were half a Mayuka away from it being a done deal.

Apart from the direct quote from our leaders saying we had two deals agreed, yes?

[Badger]

6 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Quite excited by the Beto link as well - not just the highlights this proper scouting report seems to rate him a lot as well and sounds like the sort of forward we need.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EP1EMLywdjf3ljfFgvAOoQboR_NCfqOO/view

Born on January 31, 1998 in Lisbon, Portugal, Norberto Bercique Gomes Betuncal, better known as Beto, is a young and talented Portuguese striker originally from Guinea-Bissau. .....

Beto is a modern striker .... The Lusitanian class of 98 ....

That word leapt off the screen at me, unfortunately Lusitania, like Titanic, does not inspire total confidence that all will end well. 

[madge]

3 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

Doesn’t exactly reek of a confident manager who feels he knows exactly how he’s getting us out of this mess, does it. 

Basically just begging the crowd not to turn on him if we don’t win tomorrow night.

Rabbit in the headlights. 

The crowd need to turn on the board if we lose…. Not the manger, not his fault he’s be given the job.

[The Cat]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Hopefully

Croatian women are the transfer version of nuns on the matchday thread.