SotonianWill Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 17 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Adams is very strong and has actually improved a fair bit in the air. I don't think Armstrong would be effective if he played alongside Messi/Ronaldo, let alone Victor Gyokeres. When are you judging the improvement in the air from? It was only a few games ago Adams went for an open goal header against wolves, missed the ball and handballed it instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DT Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 Lundekvam in return shock Jones: “Won’t be long before Santa’s here, so it’s a big week.” #saintsfc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 3 hours ago, SotonianWill said: When are you judging the improvement in the air from? It was only a few games ago Adams went for an open goal header against wolves, missed the ball and handballed it instead. In general play. He wins a lot more aerial duels than he used to. But yes his heading infront of goal is a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Who the hell is Dean Jones? Never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 3 minutes ago, Toon Saint said: Who the hell is Dean Jones? Never heard of him. Nathan’s brother is a fairly good source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: In general play. He wins a lot more aerial duels than he used to. But yes his heading infront of goal is a different story. id be interested to see our long ball stats this season, it seems that so far we use direct play to che much more than any previous season. Shows why a tall striker would work so well this jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Redmond and Tella back from loan spells??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 1 hour ago, StrangelyBrown said: Redmond and Tella back from loan spells??? Redmond is not away on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 Jones seemed pretty confident on a couple of signings judging by the written section of today's press conference. Sounds like Ankersen is essentially leading it. From about 19mins here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dusic said: Jones seemed pretty confident on a couple of signings judging by the written section of today's press conference. Sounds like Ankersen is essentially leading it. From about 19mins here. So did Ralph…. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 19 December, 2022 Share Posted 19 December, 2022 Starts off with him talking about two of the world's best players going head to head. I'm just going to keep watching for the dates they're joining us... ... oh... 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 16 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: A couple of rumours would be nice. Hope the back room stuff hasn’t been a distraction…need a decent striker in the door on NYD. We do but I expect the club spiel to be "We wanted Nathan to get used to the side he has before bringing in new players" or something along those lines, then 'panic' buy later in the window. And re: Gyokeres and Brereton Diaz, we can and should do better... but it's almost win/win if we do bring one in, as either they score the goals that keep us up or we end up with a decent Championship striker in the Championship (alongside the other Championship strikers we have!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 3 hours ago, Toon Saint said: Who the hell is Dean Jones? Never heard of him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 (edited) IMHO the key to our transfer window is how long it takes for Newcastle to bring in some players. I believe we are very interested in a couple of their players. Edited 20 December, 2022 by Pilchards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: IMHO the key to our transfer window is how long it takes for Newcastle to bring in some players. I believe we are very interested in a couple of there players. If its fat arse fraser and chris wood then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 43 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: If its fat arse fraser and chris wood then Chris Wood would be an upgrade on Adams and A.Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 45 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: If its fat arse fraser and chris wood then Wood has started Newcastle's 2 recent friendlies. Seems very much in their plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 hour ago, Archers Road Stand said: Chris Wood would be an upgrade on Adams and A.Armstrong. Armstrong yes but would say he is of a similar level to Adams. Also, if we are going to play a front two then we need someone to compliment Adams rather than try to do the same type of job. I think Adams as a physical outlet is pretty decent, and he has shown with Ings and Broja that he can combine well with a finisher who looks to run in behind or who can beat defenders 1v1. Personally hope we target someone of that type rather than a target man like Wood as don't think that would result in a good combination. Our forward line is often quite static and one paced so we need a dynamic player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 We have never been a club who's transfers particularly involve a lot of rumours, generally we seem to get media noises 2-3 days before the signings actually happen and go about it very quietly before that, I don't think much has changed in that regard with SR. I am very much hoping we are not involved in getting PL rejects like Fraser. I don't see signing players from PL clubs as a sensible route for us because we are not big enough or rich enough to take up and coming players from other clubs (generally the bigger clubs do that to us) so you are talking about players that other middling to lower PL clubs don't want, so why would we want that, the cost of those players and their wages is usually far too much compared to what you get from them. A Romeu or Bertrand style signing might be alright, a good young player not quite getting into a big club, so someone like Gallagher maybe might fit that mould, who isn't getting very regular game time at Chelsea. Cole Palmer at City, van de Beek at Utd, maybe a player like that even then fees and wages are likely to be higher. If we get people in that I reckon they will be either from Europe or Championship, under 24 as well. We were targeting the likes of Gakpo and Ramos, probably both might have moved up to the pecking order for bigger clubs but it'll be the next Gakpo or Ramos or similar player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 2 hours ago, Archers Road Stand said: Chris Wood would be an upgrade on Adams and A.Armstrong. yeah but after shopping for Ramos and Gakpo it would be like us trying to buy a ferrari in the summer but instead getting a ford mondeo to replace your citroen saxo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 At one point in the press conference Jones was asked about the younger players (think it was a question about academy prospects) and whilst NJ praised the academy he also mentioned about how vital experience was so wouldn't surprise me if we were looking at players like Woods and Fraser. From recollection I think the Luton fan on here mentioned about how much Jones valued experienced players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 10 minutes ago, revolution saint said: At one point in the press conference Jones was asked about the younger players (think it was a question about academy prospects) and whilst NJ praised the academy he also mentioned about how vital experience was so wouldn't surprise me if we were looking at players like Woods and Fraser. From recollection I think the Luton fan on here mentioned about how much Jones valued experienced players. He had cameron jerome up front for him, says enough for me about favouring experience. Still haunted by his goal against us in 1957 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 11 minutes ago, revolution saint said: At one point in the press conference Jones was asked about the younger players (think it was a question about academy prospects) and whilst NJ praised the academy he also mentioned about how vital experience was so wouldn't surprise me if we were looking at players like Woods and Fraser. From recollection I think the Luton fan on here mentioned about how much Jones valued experienced players. Looking at the Luton squad, there is only one 21 year old and one 22 year old (funnily enough both signed in the summer), with the rest of the squad 24 and above, and mostly in their late 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 I'd be happy to see Michail Antonio return. Strong, experienced, goalscorer; not starting for West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Relegation rivals dropping some cash (potentially depending on clauses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dusic said: Relegation rivals dropping some cash (potentially depending on clauses). €40m on a striker that hasn't scored a goal this season. Bet Wolves fans are excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 44 minutes ago, igsey said: €40m on a striker that hasn't scored a goal this season. Bet Wolves fans are excited! I expect some on their forum are now busily convincing the other members that he does in fact have an outstanding record of a goal every other game. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 hour ago, notnowcato said: I'd be happy to see Michail Antonio return. Strong, experienced, goalscorer; not starting for West Ham. Too similar to Che imo. Can't finish but brilliant at bringing others into play or carving out a chance for himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Wolves put £35m down on Fabio Silva two years ago before shipping him out on loan to Anderlecht. What's another £40/£50m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 35 minutes ago, Turkish said: I expect some on their forum are now busily convincing the other members that he does in fact have an outstanding record of a goal every other game. He has scored 19 in 40 matches. Do the math. That's a goal a game. 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 47 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: Too similar to Che imo. Can't finish but brilliant at bringing others into play or carving out a chance for himself. Antonio 18 goal involvements last season, Che had 10. Antonio is quite dissimilar to Che if you ask me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 13 minutes ago, notnowcato said: Antonio 18 goal involvements last season, Che had 10. Antonio is quite dissimilar to Che if you ask me. Out of interest, was that in a similar amount of time on the pitch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 hour ago, SambaMaverick said: Too similar to Che imo. Can't finish but brilliant at bringing others into play or carving out a chance for himself. They're nothing like each other! Antonio is a bully with proper pace. He's also a goalscorer and creator. Che is none of that . He'd be decent for us imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I expect some on their forum are now busily convincing the other members that he does in fact have an outstanding record of a goal every other game. At least one of them will be quoting some sort of xg bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 48 minutes ago, egg said: They're nothing like each other! Antonio is a bully with proper pace. He's also a goalscorer and creator. Che is none of that . He'd be decent for us imo. I have a load of West Ham mates, who say his legs have gone. But he’d still be an upgrade for us. Wouldn’t come though, think he’s more bothered about setting himself up for life after football, now he has his podcast, and the odd media duty, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 27 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I have a load of West Ham mates, who say his legs have gone. But he’d still be an upgrade for us. Wouldn’t come though, think he’s more bothered about setting himself up for life after football, now he has his podcast, and the odd media duty, Added to the fact that he’s made 14 league appearances for WHU this season, and started in 6. So unless they sign someone to replace him, I simply can’t see that they’d let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 I'm sure the possibility of a European trophy would keep him there as well, even if it is a bit-part role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Wolves dropping that sort of money can be seen in two ways: Utter stupidity the amount they’re splashing out on the manager and that player. Or a statement of intent for splashing out like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Add a new keeper to the list please. Bazunu is Angus Gunn mark 2. Absolutely rubbish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Just now, Dman said: Add a new keeper to the list please. Bazunu is Angus Gunn mark 2. Absolutely rubbish. When you consider that Croatian GK was linked in the press today for 15 million Euros you see how much Shields has stitched us up with Gavin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 (edited) ... Edited 20 December, 2022 by trousers Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 2 hours ago, Stu Man Do said: When you consider that Croatian GK was linked in the press today for 15 million Euros you see how much Shields has stitched us up with Gavin. Can’t see is signing a new when we have 3 on the books already and that Liss fella on loan somewhere. If we sell McCarthy maybe. Bazuna just isn’t ready and will cost us in a relegation battle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Sign 2 forwards all they have to be is better than Shane Long or Armstrong that cannot be hard surely? With our famed scouting network how can we fail now in the whole of Europe and America’s be worse than our attack now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeham_69 Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 On 20/12/2022 at 07:16, Toon Saint said: Who the hell is Dean Jones? Never heard of him. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 Do we need to add a defensive midfielder to our list of required signings? Lavia is obviously class but if he can't handle a few days of training without getting niggles then he isnt going to be much use in a relegation battle. AMN and Diallo not up to it, and we will likely need to use AMN as a starting full back at some stage in the next month too. The decision to let Romeu go seems at this moment to be a poor one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 20 December, 2022 Share Posted 20 December, 2022 1 minute ago, Dusic said: Do we need to add a defensive midfielder to our list of required signings? Lavia is obviously class but if he can't handle a few days of training without getting niggles then he isnt going to be much use in a relegation battle. AMN and Diallo not up to it, and we will likely need to use AMN as a starting full back at some stage in the next month too. The decision to let Romeu go seems at this moment to be a poor one. For me a DM has to be a priority along with a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 December, 2022 Share Posted 21 December, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dusic said: Do we need to add a defensive midfielder to our list of required signings? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 21 December, 2022 Share Posted 21 December, 2022 (edited) Sell Lavia to Chelsea if they want him. Break the Ings fee record for a new DMC with pace and power. Then break it again for a main striker and £20m on a second one/winger. That’s what needs to happen. Either that or accept relegation and a 3 year plan for automatic promotion. Or loan Wood from Newcastle and spend the second striker money on a quality 10 but still need Gapko-type outlay on a primary striker. Edited 21 December, 2022 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 21 December, 2022 Share Posted 21 December, 2022 8 hours ago, Dusic said: Do we need to add a defensive midfielder to our list of required signings? Lavia is obviously class but if he can't handle a few days of training without getting niggles then he isnt going to be much use in a relegation battle. AMN and Diallo not up to it, and we will likely need to use AMN as a starting full back at some stage in the next month too. The decision to let Romeu go seems at this moment to be a poor one. He's had a hamstring injury and this recent niggle - we're there other niggles I've missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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