January 2023 Transfer Window

[FishSticks]

 

[santolijador]

All I can think about is the potential Big Paul - JWP chemistry. I am a proponent of big lamps upfront, sign him up. 

[SuperSAINT]

9 minutes ago, wild-saint said:

more like a lack of points and being bottom of the league i would imagine. 

As I said, lack of recruitment expertise.

[Saint NL]

3 minutes ago, santolijador said:

I am a proponent of big lamps upfront, sign him up. 

Just been sacked by Everton, he might fancy it

[maysie]

1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said:

As I said, lack of recruitment expertise.

I see what you done there

[Saint Fan CaM]

Leicester about to sign striker Opoku according to Sky.  Bournemouth got a CB from Kiev - £24m.  They're going for it, whatever that is.

Edited 31 January, 2023 by Saint Fan CaM

[goodymatt]

 

[Bewildered]

Sulemana has chosen us over Everton apparently according to l'equipe.

[goodymatt]

Claims he’s chosen us over Everton

[Appy]

 

[goodymatt]

 

[hypochondriac]

I've been working this morning. What's the latest on the targets? Have we lost them all yet or is there hope? 

[whelk]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I've been working this morning. What's the latest on the targets? Have we lost them all yet or is there hope? 

No hope whatsoever I’m afraid

[saintwbu]

Why would a club need to pay over the release clause? The player doesn’t get that money so not sure why it would be a factor

[whelk]

Just now, saintwbu said:

Why would a club need to pay over the release clause? The player doesn’t get that money so not sure why it would be a factor

To really release them

[Saint Fan CaM]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I've been working this morning. What's the latest on the targets? Have we lost them all yet or is there hope? 

There's always hope - but it's diminishing fast, although Sulemana has apparently chosen us over Everton.

[goodymatt]

 

[badgerx16]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I've been working this morning. What's the latest on the targets? Have we lost them all yet or is there hope? 

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I've been working this morning. What's the latest on the targets? Have we lost them all yet or is there hope? 

Ayew still a possibility 

[SNSUN]

25 minutes ago, Master Bates said:

Nowt in front 

Live pictures from SMS...

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

Why would it make any difference if Marseille paid €2m over his release clause? Once we’ve agreed to meet the release clause then the club have to sell, it’s down to the player then, the fact his club are getting €2m more is irrelevant 

Edited 31 January, 2023 by Turkish

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Ayew still a possibility 

That's what I was hoping for.

[davefizzy14]

Surely he would choose us over Marseille! 

[Saint_clark]

31 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Just landed in Newcastle, FFS. 😂😂😂

Who? Vitinha?

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Why would it make any difference if Marseille paid €2m over his release clause? Once we’ve agreed to meet the release clause then the club have to sale, it’s down to the player then, the fact his club are getting €2m more is irrelevant 

Not sure it works like that. It's more of an Ebay auction whereby you have to bid more than the starting price and the highest bidder still wins.

But, as you also point out, ultimately it comes down to the player. If we were the only club to meet the release clause, but he doesn't want to come, nobody can force him to sign.

[Winnersaint]

Amazes me how everything seems to hang on what is on Twitter. Anyway, my predictions. No-one in. Hope I'm wrong but our January transfer dealings were effectively undone immediately before and after the WC because of the league position. Ralph got us there and NJ has yet to get us out. 

[goodymatt]

Translation: 

We already told you about it on January 19th!
🔴 #SouthamptonFC pushes for Paul #Onuachu who has already agreed to join the #SaintsFC when he was less convinced at the start of #mercato . #KRCGenk wants 18M € .
⏳ Run against time.

[Saint_clark]

7 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Why would a club need to pay over the release clause? The player doesn’t get that money so not sure why it would be a factor

Didn't Walcott insist on us getting a fee from Arsenal or something like that? Sometimes players actually care about the clubs that took them out of obscurity.

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Not sure it works like that. It's more of an Ebay auction whereby you have to bid more than the starting price and the highest bidder still wins.

But, as you also point out, ultimately it comes down to the player. If we were the only club to meet the release clause, but he doesn't want to come, nobody can force him to sign.

No, anyone that bids above the release clause has to have their bid accepted.

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, goodymatt said:

Translation: 

We already told you about it on January 19th!
🔴 #SouthamptonFC pushes for Paul #Onuachu who has already agreed to join the #SaintsFC when he was less convinced at the start of #mercato . #KRCGenk wants 18M € .
⏳ Run against time.

Can't see it happening even if we do have until midnight (as it's an international signing)?

[Yozzman]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Why would it make any difference if Marseille paid €2m over his release clause? Once we’ve agreed to meet the release clause then the club have to sell, it’s down to the player then, the fact his club are getting €2m more is irrelevant 

The release fee needs to be paid in full by offering 2M€ more they are hoping it can be paid in instalments maybe?

[goodymatt]

I would love it if we got these two targets ahead of Everton. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

No, anyone that bids above the release clause has to have their bid accepted.

So if we meet the release clause, and another club comes along and bids 2m higher, they have to accept our offer regardless? Seems odd. And I expect the terms would differ from contract to contract. I doubt there is a universal rule covering this.

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can't see it happening even if we do have until midnight (as it's an international signing)?

23:00 our time, GMT. 24:00 CET

[Miltonaggro]

Twitterati are clearly going for it this year, some money about.  Shame they can't be comedy dildoed by the general public as is tradition. 

[baggytrousers]

On 28/01/2023 at 21:39, Toadhall Saint said:

Sulemana for 22 mill. Fantastic news if true

 

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So if we meet the release clause, and another club comes along and bids 2m higher, they have to accept our offer regardless? Seems odd. And I expect the terms would differ from contract to contract. I doubt there is a universal rule covering this.

Yes, it's a clause that benefits the player. It means clubs like saints are more likely to be able to sign bigger players because they know we won't price bigger clubs out of moving for them.

[saintwbu]

1 minute ago, Sheaf Saint said:

So if we meet the release clause, and another club comes along and bids 2m higher, they have to accept our offer regardless? Seems odd. And I expect the terms would differ from contract to contract. I doubt there is a universal rule covering this.

I think that’s exactly how it works - that’s why Barcelona couldn’t stop Neymar leaving to PSG. Normally release clauses are set at ridiculously high levels for this reason, otherwise the club are completely powerless. My guess would be €30mil was seen as that whenever Vitinha signed his latest contract, given he’s only 22.

[Saint_clark]

2 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

I would love it if we got these two targets ahead of Everton. 

I haven't seen much of Sulemana to make me excited, but Onuachu gives me real Pelle vibes. Not just a good record to go along with his physicality, but experienced as well instead of a kid.

[LaptopSaint]

Has Jordan signed yet?

 

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

Yes, it's a clause that benefits the player. It means clubs like saints are more likely to be able to sign bigger players because they know we won't price bigger clubs out of moving for them.

 

Just now, saintwbu said:

I think that’s exactly how it works - that’s why Barcelona couldn’t stop Neymar leaving to PSG. Normally release clauses are set at ridiculously high levels for this reason, otherwise the club are completely powerless. My guess would be €30mil was seen as that whenever Vitinha signed his latest contract, given he’s only 22.

OK fair enough.

But the power still rests with the player. The transfer will only happen if the player wants to join the club that has met the release fee. Vitinha obviously doesn't and wants to join Marseille instead.

[goodymatt]

I wanted Vitinha but if we get Onuachu and Sulemana then that’s going to give us a chance at survival. Across the two players there is insane speed, power and goals. Fingers crossed!

[Lee On Solent Saint]

7 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Can't see it happening even if we do have until midnight (as it's an international signing)?

Are we OK as long as the club submits a deal sheet? I thought clubs had a bit more time if a sheet was in

[saintant]

By a simple process of elimination the name of the person we sign will be Ayew.

[Dman]

11 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Not sure it works like that. It's more of an Ebay auction whereby you have to bid more than the starting price and the highest bidder still wins.

But, as you also point out, ultimately it comes down to the player. If we were the only club to meet the release clause, but he doesn't want to come, nobody can force him to sign.

It’s exactly how it works. It’s more of a eBay ‘buy it now’ rather than Auction. 
 

If a release clause is set at X, if you offer X then the player is free to agree terms with you. Little the selling club can do. 
 

Id expect Marseille have offer 2m more but in instalments rather than a lump sum, which the release fee needs to be paid at. 

[STEVEADAMS]

 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11696379/Rennes-winger-Kamaldeen-Sulemana-chooses-Southampton-Everton-22m-deal.html

[baggytrousers]

L’equip reporting Sulemana is ours

[Ashby Saint]

 

[saintwbu]

3 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

 

OK fair enough.

But the power still rests with the player. The transfer will only happen if the player wants to join the club that has met the release fee. Vitinha obviously doesn't and wants to join Marseille instead.

Yeah absolutely, but that’s why it seems weird that anyone would be bidding above the release clause - once the clause is met, it’s then entirely down to the player whether he wants to move or not. The only reason I could think for this is mentioned above, maybe neither club wants to pay in full and therefore are willing to bid above the clause instead so they can pay it via instalments.

[saint77]

19 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

Why would a club need to pay over the release clause? The player doesn’t get that money so not sure why it would be a factor

so the buying club don't have to pay the 30m upfront if they go over the release fee that can pay over a few years