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27 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Potency isn't just directly goals scored by the player, you can measure it in many ways, His pace, ball carrying and bringing away defenders all add up to potency up top.

Thanks for the lecture coach carter

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Golac's Cunning Stunts

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25 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

Potency isn't just directly goals scored by the player, you can measure it in many ways, His pace, ball carrying and bringing away defenders all add up to potency up top.

That's as may be. But we're crying out for a goalscorer so why not buy one?

Adams and Armstrong get a goal every 5 or 6 games, if that. They convert probably 5% of the chances they get.

Makes no sense to me at all

 

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19 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

That's as may be. But we're crying out for a goalscorer so why not buy one?

Adams and Armstrong get a goal every 5 or 6 games, if that. They convert probably 5% of the chances they get.

Makes no sense to me at all

 

Who though? Maybe no one good wants to come to us

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3 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Who though? Maybe no one good wants to come to us

This I suspect is the main problem. The two that I  liked the look of Moffi - wanted to stay in France- and the Genk fella - why on earth would he come to us - other than that I struggle to think of anyone else ( admittedly that's not my full time job) but it was quite telling that the Italian bloke from Milan who bompey were after categorically said he didn't want to go there. We probably have the same issues.

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33 minutes ago, Grim Reaper said:

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-southampton-agree-personal-terms-with-kamaldeen-sulemana-as-talks-advance/
 

Looking at his video he looks all fart and no shit !

Agree. What we need and have needed for an eternity is a goal scoring number 9 with some height, power, speed and skill, Another tricky winger will not add much if anything to our collective ability to score goals. Not sure what the thinking is unless we're just saying it's impossible for us to get a decent striker for the money we'll pay so we'll bring in another winger who may create a bit of panic which might lead to more goals. Big gamble and wrong call in my opinion.

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3 hours ago, Gingeletiss said:

Has anybody thought, that we may not be able to recall him. Not all season long loan deals have a January recall written in. Just saying.

Yes, and we can. Confirmed after Christmas by Kompany and Jones has pretty much confirmed the recall clause.

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6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree. What we need and have needed for an eternity is a goal scoring number 9 with some height, power, speed and skill, Another tricky winger will not add much if anything to our collective ability to score goals. Not sure what the thinking is unless we're just saying it's impossible for us to get a decent striker for the money we'll pay so we'll bring in another winger who may create a bit of panic which might lead to more goals. Big gamble and wrong call in my opinion.

Even if we had £70m, would a £70m player join us right now?

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53 minutes ago, saintant said:

Sorry. I don't see the relevance of a £70m player.

You said "for the money we'll pay". But even if we pay more, who will come to us when we're bottom of the league? Who are the strikers with great goal records who we could buy for £30m, £40m, £50m who would come to us right now?

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1 hour ago, derry said:

For those critical of Tella, I've watched his last half dozen appearances and it's not that he is scoring goals that has caught my eye it's the clinical way he is now finishing his chances.

I think we're risking spending £20 million on a young player who may not be an upgrade on Tella. Completely bonkers.

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1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

You said "for the money we'll pay". But even if we pay more, who will come to us when we're bottom of the league? Who are the strikers with great goal records who we could buy for £30m, £40m, £50m who would come to us right now?

We pay people money to scout players. Other clubs like Brighton seem to be able to identify and sign very good players in our price range. It is not impossible but clearly we do not have the personnel with the competence to spot talent.

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4 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Didn't Jones say he didn't want passengers. So AMN loan is going to be cancelled, right.

You would like to think that's a given but we'll probably keep him despite the fact he is clearly poor and not bothered.

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Just now, Baird of the land said:

Didn't Jones say he didn't want passengers. So AMN loan is going to be cancelled, right.

I don’t see a lot of point in keeping him except for if we’re desperate due to injuries. Diallo and Lavia are getting the nod ahead of him in midfield, Lyanco has played RB instead of him. I’d have rather seen Payne get some time in there for this game than seeing another shuffling, ambling, back-footed display from Maitland Niles, he’s just so passive.

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5 hours ago, Dman said:

He had bags of potential but no end product. He’s basically a winger version of Che. 
 

But this is exactly what I've come to expect of the modern "winger" or wideman, lightening pace, bit of trickery, fancy footwork, occasional stepover bollocks, but all petering out the close they get to the goal (or the byeline ).

This looked to be the case with Tella last season, and although he's still got time on his side, watching the other night I had a similar feeling about Edozie.  If he signs then I fear we might be saying the same about Sulemana in a few months.

 

3 hours ago, Grim Reaper said:

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-southampton-agree-personal-terms-with-kamaldeen-sulemana-as-talks-advance/
 

Looking at his video he looks all fart and no shit !

The 'modern' winger for you. But if he shows up in the right percentile of 'key indicators'  any shortcomings will be overshadowed for Rasmus and co. 

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2 hours ago, saintant said:

We pay people money to scout players. Other clubs like Brighton seem to be able to identify and sign very good players in our price range. It is not impossible but clearly we do not have the personnel with the competence to spot talent.

Brighton also struggled to find a goalscorer for a number of years. And they're not bottom of the league like we are

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“Kamaldeen Sulemana, recorded as the fastest player to compete in last year's World Cup, reaching a top speed of 35.7 kilometres per hour according to FIFA data, 2.4 km/h faster than Kylian Mbappe”

I know he’s not the 20 goal a season striker everyone’s looking for, but pace alone can be a game changer/difference maker.

Opposition teams will be forced to sit deeper giving us more possession, blunting their attack.
 

Opposition teams may have to “double up” on Sulemana, giving more space/freedom to other forward players 

Faster players draw more free kicks as opposition players would rather give away fouls than space, resulting in more free kicks around the opposition area. Great news for JWP

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dan Johnson said:

“Kamaldeen Sulemana, recorded as the fastest player to compete in last year's World Cup, reaching a top speed of 35.7 kilometres per hour according to FIFA data, 2.4 km/h faster than Kylian Mbappe”

I know he’s not the 20 goal a season striker everyone’s looking for, but pace alone can be a game changer/difference maker.

Opposition teams will be forced to sit deeper giving us more possession, blunting their attack.
 

Opposition teams may have to “double up” on Sulemana, giving more space/freedom to other forward players 

Faster players draw more free kicks as opposition players would rather give away fouls than space, resulting in more free kicks around the opposition area. Great news for JWP

 

 

 

I know nothing of Sulemana but Walcott carved out a decent career of being super fast but an average finisher. If Sulemana has even close to Walcott’s career we’d have done well.

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2 hours ago, Dan Johnson said:

“Kamaldeen Sulemana, recorded as the fastest player to compete in last year's World Cup, reaching a top speed of 35.7 kilometres per hour according to FIFA data, 2.4 km/h faster than Kylian Mbappe”

I know he’s not the 20 goal a season striker everyone’s looking for, but pace alone can be a game changer/difference maker.

Opposition teams will be forced to sit deeper giving us more possession, blunting their attack.
 

Opposition teams may have to “double up” on Sulemana, giving more space/freedom to other forward players 

Faster players draw more free kicks as opposition players would rather give away fouls than space, resulting in more free kicks around the opposition area. Great news for JWP

 

 

 

Could this finally be the much sought after pacy wideman?

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12 hours ago, davefizzy14 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.givemesport.com/88109737-southampton-saints-beto-nathan-jones-premier-league-transfer-news-st-marys/amp

Exactly what we need. Hoping we get both Sulemana and Beto.

Basically a load of waffle about nothing. 3 days left now. Heading towards a familiar story and the same tired excuses the club make as to why they couldn't land any of their targets.  SR, Semmens and Rasmus taking the piss.

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1 hour ago, davefizzy14 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.givemesport.com/88109737-southampton-saints-beto-nathan-jones-premier-league-transfer-news-st-marys/amp

Exactly what we need. Hoping we get both Sulemana and Beto.

You will be disappointed Davey.

It will be either a £20m or so wide player or a £20m or so striker. Beto probably is too expensive to be either, but no chance we get both.

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1 hour ago, davefizzy14 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.givemesport.com/88109737-southampton-saints-beto-nathan-jones-premier-league-transfer-news-st-marys/amp

Exactly what we need. Hoping we get both Sulemana and Beto.

I think you need to stop reading click bait articles that read like something generated by AI from various reports over the last three weeks.

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44 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said:

Love how the fans kicking off sparked them into action. Now it’s all quietened down, so has our transfer activity.

Semmens et al trolling.

Semmens is a marketing guy, he knows how to play the crowd, tell them what they want to hear. Unfortunately like most marketing people when it comes to any substance and actually doing stuff that makes a difference he gets found out. Stop talking the talk Martin a bit more walking the walk. Youre not running a team of Prosecco drinking birds with Mulberry handbags now, bubble graphs and propensity to buy data scrapes don’t work in professional sport you mug

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15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Semmens is a marketing guy, he knows how to play the crowd, tell them what they want to hear. Unfortunately like most marketing people when it comes to any substance and actually doing stuff that makes a difference he gets found out. Stop talking the talk Martin a bit more walking the walk. Youre not running a team of Prosecco drinking birds with Mulberry handbags now, bubble graphs and propensity to buy data scrapes don’t work in professional sport you mug

Leave Martin alone.

He is going to have to go to Newcastle on Tuesday when he could have been with his family.

So inconsiderate to criticise him.

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On 28/01/2023 at 11:31, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

I'm probably bitter, but i don't feel sorry for the at all. brings back memories of when we used to get raped by the likes of arse-anal,

Brighton can always bring this guy back when he is way past his best and looking for a final pay check

  

12 hours ago, OldNick said:

The owner as far as Im aware made his money from gambling, so I have no time for him at all

 

4 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Nice to see you’ve written off a guy for his profession you made up in your head

 

OldNick was talking about Brighton owner Tony Bloom, who "is an English sports bettor, poker player, entrepreneur, owner and chairman of Premier League football club Brighton & Hove Albion". Not Dragan.

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Really cant see us splashing the cash for Sulemana, possibly Hjulmand and a target man. We do have a loan available, not ideal if it comes to that on deadline day but will be interesting to see if we pursue that option. Datro Fofana who recently signed for Chelsea from Molde would be a good option. Unlikely to get any game time with the options at Chelsea

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36 minutes ago, Pat from Poole said:

Leave Martin alone.

He is going to have to go to Newcastle on Tuesday when he could have been with his family.

So inconsiderate to criticise him.

Poor old Martin, away on business earning his huge salary not putting his kids to bed. I’ve just got back from a week in the US on business, first thing I said to the first customer I met with was I’d rather be at home with my family than talking to you ungrateful fuckers, oh how we laughed 

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Che Adams linked with Everton again as they are desperate for a striker.

Honestly I reckon 95% of us would offer to drive him to Merseyside for his medical even if it means missing the semi final game vs Newcastle.

Would be good to get him and AMN out and replaced with two better options.

 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-everton-make-move-to-sign-southampton-star-che-adams/

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I got the feeling in pre season, that the club, supremely confident of getting a new striker in, were prepared to listen to offers for Che. I think he didn't play for the next game at the time, which I was taking as the club letting him know he might not get as many minutes, and maybe a rumour or two at the time.

Here we are with the club confident in bringing in a new attacker, and Che linked again with a departure.

I think he's still needed, and he'd be a good partner for a better finisher.

 

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18 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I got the feeling in pre season, that the club, supremely confident of getting a new striker in, were prepared to listen to offers for Che. I think he didn't play for the next game at the time, which I was taking as the club letting him know he might not get as many minutes, and maybe a rumour or two at the time.

Here we are with the club confident in bringing in a new attacker, and Che linked again with a departure.

I think he's still needed, and he'd be a good partner for a better finisher.

 

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they let Che go and didn’t bring anyone in. 

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Ok been browsing the udinese news.

Seems like the following - they keep putting offers in for strikers (young and old) and also are interested in wingers after delofeu injured himself for the season and Beacao being linked to teams (italy and eng).

Not too sure what to make it of it, apparently fiorentina were interested in Beto a few days ago as well, but until Tues i can live in hope we will sign beto.

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6 hours ago, Pilchards said:

Che Adams linked with Everton again as they are desperate for a striker.

Honestly I reckon 95% of us would offer to drive him to Merseyside for his medical even if it means missing the semi final game vs Newcastle.

Would be good to get him and AMN out and replaced with two better options.

 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-everton-make-move-to-sign-southampton-star-che-adams/

I can see us selling and him suddenly being quite good, with a new challenge, more money and better manager. Agree to sell at end of season and the just leave him out of the team. 

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