January 2023 Transfer Window

[SaintLondon]

4 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

Is that instead of signing Nicolas Jackson or is he still doing his medical, I wonder?

According to Fabrizio Romano they find out about the hamstring issue tomorrow so it could be in addition. They’re splashing some wedge. 

[HarvSFC]

15 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

According to Fabrizio Romano they find out about the hamstring issue tomorrow so it could be in addition. They’re splashing some wedge. 

Also offered £30m to Roma for Zaniolo according to Romano. We can just look on with awe, I suppose.

[Saint Billy]

With Bompey and West Ham signing players carrying injuries. If and when we buy a striker, I think we must do a really thorough medical and check for Blue Vein in there legs. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Tick tock…FFS.

[Saint_clark]

6 hours ago, benali-shorts said:

Obafemi to Burnley for £3m. We had a sell-on clause. We might get £300k, which may prove the difference between us not getting a centre forward and not getting a centre forward.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64413302

Quite funny, Obafemi who many wrote off on here could be a Premier League striker next season while we are playing in the Championship. 

[skintsaint]

3 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Quite funny, Obafemi who many wrote off on here could be a Premier League striker next season while we are playing in the Championship. 

He isn't top flight standard and correctly written off. 

Back on subject, we should be all over Antonio with a loan till the end of the season and him signing if we stay up, has a few years left in him and is a good short term option.

I can't see us buying a striker for good money within 4 days time.

Edited 27 January, 2023 by skintsaint

[Convict Colony]

Sulemana has apparently asked to leave yesterday and Rennes want a fixed 20mil for him.

We previously offered 17m fixed, PSV ony 15m.

Us and PSV fish in the same french waters a fair bit, Sangarre and now this dude.

[SaintsFan86]

46 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Sulemana has apparently asked to leave yesterday and Rennes want a fixed 20mil for him.

We previously offered 17m fixed, PSV ony 15m.

Us and PSV fish in the same french waters a fair bit, Sangarre and now this dude.

Would be a decent option, A better right winger than Jackson.

[CB Fry]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

Quite funny, Obafemi who many wrote off on here could be a Premier League striker next season while we are playing in the Championship. 

The January we got promoted we signed Billy Sharp to help get us over the line. He wasn't Premier League standard either.

At least Burnley have now got got two forwards this forum can drool over because they are a oh-so-potent in the Championship and that means they're brilliant brilliant brilliant. I wish we had them to save our season etc.

While at the same time, without any hint of self awareness whatsoever, also go on and on about how shit Armstrong and Adams are for us.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Come on Saints. #AnnounceMessi

[Toadhall Saint]

1 hour ago, Convict Colony said:

Sulemana has apparently asked to leave yesterday and Rennes want a fixed 20mil for him.

We previously offered 17m fixed, PSV ony 15m.

Us and PSV fish in the same french waters a fair bit, Sangarre and now this dude.

Interesting esp given we have around 20 mil to spend. 😉

[DT]

Everton also keen on Sulemana. Them getting Bielsa might tip it in their favour if they manage it. Newcastle were also sniffing. He’s a winger, too, so not the perfect answer. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

7 minutes ago, DT said:

Everton also keen on Sulemana. Them getting Bielsa might tip it in their favour if they manage it. Newcastle were also sniffing. He’s a winger, too, so not the perfect answer. 

Again, the difference pulling power makes when you have an experienced world class manager and some unknown that looks a bit pissed up looking for a fight outside a nightclub.

[wild-saint]

2 hours ago, skintsaint said:

He isn't top flight standard and correctly written off. 

Back on subject, we should be all over Antonio with a loan till the end of the season and him signing if we stay up, has a few years left in him and is a good short term option.

I can't see us buying a striker for good money within 4 days time.

Antonio is 33 in March so I don’t think he has the rest of season in him let alone a few years.

westham fans think his legs have gone and as a player that relied on pace over scoring / finishing ability to add value then I think this is a poor signing. He is the reason West Ham are in trouble and you want him to fire us to safety? 
 

let’s hope our target list still has a few options on it before we get down to hoping he will save our season.

[Pilchards]

Blimey what’s the catch in wanting him other than being the fastest at the World Cup?

Sulemana has so far endured a frustrating season, as while he has featured 19 times across the campaign for Rennes he has only been limited to one goal and two assists.
However he has only played a cumulative five games across those appearances - with just 492 minutes of game time having had problems with his knee and ankle.

[goodymatt]

7 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

Blimey what’s the catch in wanting him other than being the fastest at the World Cup?

Sulemana has so far endured a frustrating season, as while he has featured 19 times across the campaign for Rennes he has only been limited to one goal and two assists.
However he has only played a cumulative five games across those appearances - with just 492 minutes of game time having had problems with his knee and ankle.

Well that’s encouraging…

[Saintscummer]

28 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Again, the difference pulling power makes when you have an experienced world class manager and some unknown that looks a bit pissed up looking for a fight outside a nightclub.

Nothing personal but after reading this I really hope NJ turns us around and shoves that opinion right up your jacksy. 

[egg]

33 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Again, the difference pulling power makes when you have an experienced world class manager and some unknown that looks a bit pissed up looking for a fight outside a nightclub.

There's no need for that mate. Criticise him for his lack of clout and poor track record if you must, but the personal digs are out of order and getting boring now. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

15 minutes ago, Saintscummer said:

Nothing personal but after reading this I really hope NJ turns us around and shoves that opinion right up your jacksy. 

Don’t we all. Would love to be proved wrong but don’t see it happening. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[saint77]

47 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Again, the difference pulling power makes when you have an experienced world class manager and some unknown that looks a bit pissed up looking for a fight outside a nightclub.

Hurry up mush your be late for school 

[Saintscummer]

4 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Don’t we all. Would love to be proved wrong but don’t see it happening. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I get that but shouldn’t he be given time ? He is trying to completely change the way we are playing. The old way took us second bottom in the entire professional football structure over the last year. 
 

it looks like he is starting from the back, getting the players fired up and being more on the front foot. It is not his fault he has no goal scorer. Tbf, it looks like he is trying something new with JWP which has resulted in his best goal scoring run. Plus he should have had one against Villa. 
 

I just think it would take any manager about 6 months to make a difference. We might not have that to play with but that isn’t his fault. 
 

I just think personal stuff makes us look like petulant kids. Constructive opinions and criticism I get. But the personal stuff just doesn’t help. 
 

all I give a fxxk about is Saints staying up and if they don’t I will still renew my season ticket and hopefully enjoy winning more games. The toxic atmosphere and jibes all the time is actually putting me off all of it. Not the project and new direction. 
 

this really isn’t aimed at you James but using this comment to air my views. 

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Come on Saints. #AnnounceMessi

I'd settle for #Getusoutofthisfuckingmessi

[FarehamSaintJames]

35 minutes ago, Saintscummer said:

I get that but shouldn’t he be given time ? He is trying to completely change the way we are playing. The old way took us second bottom in the entire professional football structure over the last year. 
 

it looks like he is starting from the back, getting the players fired up and being more on the front foot. It is not his fault he has no goal scorer. Tbf, it looks like he is trying something new with JWP which has resulted in his best goal scoring run. Plus he should have had one against Villa. 
 

I just think it would take any manager about 6 months to make a difference. We might not have that to play with but that isn’t his fault. 
 

I just think personal stuff makes us look like petulant kids. Constructive opinions and criticism I get. But the personal stuff just doesn’t help. 
 

all I give a fxxk about is Saints staying up and if they don’t I will still renew my season ticket and hopefully enjoy winning more games. The toxic atmosphere and jibes all the time is actually putting me off all of it. Not the project and new direction. 
 

this really isn’t aimed at you James but using this comment to air my views. 

Not a problem mate. Maybe a tad harsh of me. Apologies to those above that think that was a bit much.

The point I was trying to make is that now day it’s all about pulling power and money.

Something Sport Republic should’ve been considering when thinking ahead to this transfer window.

Villa got an upgrade on Gerrard. Everton I’m sure will get an upgrade on Lampard. Wolves got an upgrade on their old manager (who’s name escapes me).
Would I call Jones an upgrade on Ralph? Nope. No I wouldn’t. All he is is fresh compared to Ralph who looked burnt out.

But when you’re bottom of the league you need to pay out, make a statement and promise some funds to correct this seasons errors.

SR, and Rasmus Ankersen have made some poor decisions in the last six-eight months which may well cost as our Premier League status.

It just seems very short-sighted of SR to have not thought about this prior to the window.
At least Rasmus has said he’s completely owning this transfer window, makes you wonder who was owning the last one.

[Wade Garrett]

We signed Ings on the last day of the window.  Need that sort of deal now.

We’re bottom of the league.  We need to gamble.  
Would much rather sign a centre forward rather than a winger.  A decent winger will just create chances for our forwards to miss.

What an absolute fucking shambles.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

While it's very tempting to criticise SR for their failure to address our glaring problem during the last  - and probably this - transfer window, perhaps we have to face up to the fact we cannot now compete financially with the rest of the PL. When the likes of Bournemouth can gazump us, seemingly with impunity, then the sooner we wake up to the fact that our owner is just not wealthy enough, then the better it will be for all our sanity. It's a sad indictment that bloodstained Arab petro dinars and US Hedge fund dollars have distorted our game beyond repair - it's no longer a sport in the old-fashioned sense of the word, and frankly we have done pretty well, up to now, to even stay in the top flight.

Do I wish we had been taken over by a despot billionaire? To be honest, although it would be fun to upset some apple carts I think I can honestly say "no thanks". I would take little pleasure by doing a Newcastle, to me they are no longer a football club just a means for some murderous sheik to sportswash in an attempt to win a smidgeon of respectability, while the British media, led by Martin Tyler and Sky swoon on sycophantically. Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

[david in sweden]

4 hours ago, skintsaint said:

He isn't top flight standard and correctly written off. 

Back on subject, we should be all over Antonio with a loan till the end of the season and him signing if we stay up, has a few years left in him and is a good short term option.

I can't see us buying a striker for good money within 4 days time.

Looking back ....to the JPT final when Antonio scored for us, whilst on loan from Reading (!)  it all went pear-shaped

when Nicola Cortese subsequently refused to sanction his purchase - because of Reading's  2 million price tag.

This was plain madness when you consider how subsequent clubs invested and benefitted when they bought him.

(Cortese previously questioned Alan Pardew's judgement when he wanted to spend ONE million on a 26 year old, L1 striker... named Lambert (!)

 

For all the plaudits he got for organising the administration at the club, Cortese almost bankrupted us a second time when  almost every 

purchase he made, was on borrowed money and engineered via his European cronies, and proved to be expensive disasters; like (example)

Osvaldo and Ramirez who together cost  over 25 million - without even calculating their salaries after being given 4 year contracts.

 

In our present situation, (with other players refusing to sign for us after looking at the Prem. table), we could do worse than sign Antonio .

Edited 27 January, 2023 by david in sweden

[Saint Fan CaM]

8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

At least Rasmus has said he’s completely owning this transfer window, makes you wonder who was owning the last one.

Well we now know that was an ‘exaggeration’ because apparently Jones was responsible entirely for the Bree signing.

[austsaint]

4 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

While it's very tempting to criticise SR for their failure to address our glaring problem during the last  - and probably this - transfer window, perhaps we have to face up to the fact we cannot now compete financially with the rest of the PL. When the likes of Bournemouth can gazump us, seemingly with impunity, then the sooner we wake up to the fact that our owner is just not wealthy enough, then the better it will be for all our sanity. It's a sad indictment that bloodstained Arab petro dinars and US Hedge fund dollars have distorted our game beyond repair - it's no longer a sport in the old-fashioned sense of the word, and frankly we have done pretty well, up to now, to even stay in the top flight.

Do I wish we had been taken over by a despot billionaire? To be honest, although it would be fun to upset some apple carts I think I can honestly say "no thanks". I would take little pleasure by doing a Newcastle, to me they are no longer a football club just a means for some murderous sheik to sportswash in an attempt to win a smidgeon of respectability, while the British media, led by Martin Tyler and Sky swoon on sycophantically. Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

One of your best, Fella.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football and win games of football? I do - I don’t think it’s all about the money all the time. If that were the case we would never beat City 2-0 for example…it just wouldn’t be possible.

Edited 27 January, 2023 by Saint Fan CaM

[100%Red&White]

6 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

Our the even better scenario of the obscenely-mega-rich monsters fooking off to their desired global super league. Soon.

[trousers]

5 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

While it's very tempting to criticise SR for their failure to address our glaring problem during the last  - and probably this - transfer window, perhaps we have to face up to the fact we cannot now compete financially with the rest of the PL. When the likes of Bournemouth can gazump us, seemingly with impunity, then the sooner we wake up to the fact that our owner is just not wealthy enough, then the better it will be for all our sanity. It's a sad indictment that bloodstained Arab petro dinars and US Hedge fund dollars have distorted our game beyond repair - it's no longer a sport in the old-fashioned sense of the word, and frankly we have done pretty well, up to now, to even stay in the top flight.

Do I wish we had been taken over by a despot billionaire? To be honest, although it would be fun to upset some apple carts I think I can honestly say "no thanks". I would take little pleasure by doing a Newcastle, to me they are no longer a football club just a means for some murderous sheik to sportswash in an attempt to win a smidgeon of respectability, while the British media, led by Martin Tyler and Sky swoon on sycophantically. Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

I don't think you'll get too many people disagreeing with that synopsis FF. Over the next c.5 years it wouldn't surprise me if we evolve into another QPR/Reading/Stoke/West Brom/Middlesboro kinda club.... i.e. spending most of our time as a mid-table Championship side, occasionally flirting with promotion in good years and likewise relegation in not so good years. The one silver lining is that I don't think we'll end up as woeful as that tinpot outfit down the road.... (famous last words...!)

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football  and win games of football? I do.

Yes.... obviously.... 

[Maggie May]

1 minute ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football  and win games of football? I do.

There’s no doubt they would as they’re superior to NJ. 
 

I’m not the biggest fan of Jones but our performances have improved over the past few weeks. It’s clear to everyone we are just one good striker away from being a decent side. 
 

A goal scorer would’ve buried Che’s chance against Newcastle. We could have won against Villa with a good striker. 

it’s a travesty why we haven’t signed anyone. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

Sean Dyche appointed as Everton manager. That’s one team that will finish above us now.

[OldNick]

13 minutes ago, david in sweden said:

 

 

For all the plaudits he got for organising the administration at the club, Cortese almost bankrupted us a second time when  almost every 

purchase he made, was on borrowed money and engineered via his European cronies, and proved to be expensive disasters; like (example)

Osvaldo and Ramirez who together cost  over 25 million - without even calculating their salaries after being given 4 year contracts.

 

 

And fans are begging us to sign at any cost players of this ilk who are untried. So I dont think its fair to point the finger at Cortese, he was doing what we wanted by trying to spend to get us to new heights.  

[ErwinK1961]

16 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

While it's very tempting to criticise SR for their failure to address our glaring problem during the last  - and probably this - transfer window, perhaps we have to face up to the fact we cannot now compete financially with the rest of the PL. When the likes of Bournemouth can gazump us, seemingly with impunity, then the sooner we wake up to the fact that our owner is just not wealthy enough, then the better it will be for all our sanity. It's a sad indictment that bloodstained Arab petro dinars and US Hedge fund dollars have distorted our game beyond repair - it's no longer a sport in the old-fashioned sense of the word, and frankly we have done pretty well, up to now, to even stay in the top flight.

Do I wish we had been taken over by a despot billionaire? To be honest, although it would be fun to upset some apple carts I think I can honestly say "no thanks". I would take little pleasure by doing a Newcastle, to me they are no longer a football club just a means for some murderous sheik to sportswash in an attempt to win a smidgeon of respectability, while the British media, led by Martin Tyler and Sky swoon on sycophantically. Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

Great post Duncan, totally agree.

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, Maggie May said:

There’s no doubt they would as they’re superior to NJ. 
 

I’m not the biggest fan of Jones but our performances have improved over the past few weeks. It’s clear to everyone we are just one good striker away from being a decent side. 
 

A goal scorer would’ve buried Che’s chance against Newcastle. We could have won against Villa with a good striker. 

it’s a travesty why we haven’t signed anyone. 

Yeah well that’s my point. Outside of signing a striker that it seems we can’t afford, it makes you wonder why SR didn’t save some money by appointing a much better Manager in the same league as Koeman and Poch.  Surely that would have represented less risk and less cost than the route taken? I’ve believed for a while that with the present squad a decent Manager would get us playing better - I.e. specifically passing formations, pressing, shooting, scoring.

[OldNick]

21 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

Im a non smoker, but walking to the ground and smelling the cigarette and pipe smoke wafting around (especially at night games) is something to behold. It seemed to add to the games enjoyment

As for having a billionaire who had a poor past, I wouldnt mind as I have waited for over 55 years to really enjoy total success. I doubt there is an owner who hasnt done something unsavoury

Edited 27 January, 2023 by OldNick

[DT]

7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Sean Dyche appointed as Everton manager. That’s one team that will finish above us now.

It's what we should have done. They'll finish easily safe. Another nail in the coffin

[hackedoff]

Ooww,it's getting really exciting now.

However it's like a child who wants a certain gift for Christmas,but the box he sees under the tree is not quite the same shape.

[John B]

9 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football and win games of football? I do - I don’t think it’s all about the money all the time. If that were the case we would never beat City 2-0 for example…it just wouldn’t be possible.

I am not sure they would if the players  keep making mistakes or missing chances

 

At the end of the day it comes down to what the players do 

 

Doubt Ralph or Jones planned for Adams to miss numerous chances 

[Toadhall Saint]

14 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football and win games of football? I do - I don’t think it’s all about the money all the time. If that were the case we would never beat City 2-0 for example…it just wouldn’t be possible.

Would they have scored the goals that Che missed? They were good managers for us but not miracle workers. It’s not all about money but who was in charge when we beat city 2-0?

[OldNick]

8 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Yeah well that’s my point. Outside of signing a striker that it seems we can’t afford, it makes you wonder why SR didn’t save some money by appointing a much better Manager in the same league as Koeman and Poch.  Surely that would have represented less risk and less cost than the route taken? I’ve believed for a while that with the present squad a decent Manager would get us playing better - I.e. specifically passing formations, pressing, shooting, scoring.

The squad was bereft of experience, that was released/sold. NJ has now had a little added. Get behind the manager and support the squad, that is the way as fans we can help. Sniping constantly like we are entitled does any of us any good

[Badger]

26 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

 Nah, I'll settle for a life in the Championship (or even lower) where the football might be rugged and basic but you can still smell the liniment, the dubbin and the fried onions.

Good post, but think you are showing your age with reference to Dubbin. In truth I suspect that was part of  a bygone age when you started going to The Dell though, was for me in the late 60's.

If you really want a nostalgia trip though you could get your wooden rattle out of the roof. (Probably be considered an offensive weapon now).

[Badger]

8 minutes ago, DT said:

It's what we should have done. They'll finish easily safe. Another nail in the coffin

No a fan of Dyche but had he been announced by us in November I'd at least have been supportive of the logic behind it. 

[OldNick]

Just now, Badger said:

 

If you really want a nostalgia trip though you could get your wooden rattle out of the roof. (Probably be considered an offensive weapon now).

Rather than throwing it out of his pram lol..........only joshing Duncan

[West end Saints]

2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Again, the difference pulling power makes when you have an experienced world class manager and some unknown that looks a bit pissed up looking for a fight outside a nightclub.

 

2 hours ago, DT said:

Everton also keen on Sulemana. Them getting Bielsa might tip it in their favour if they manage it. Newcastle were also sniffing. He’s a winger, too, so not the perfect answer. 

Sounds like they couldn't attract Bielsa and he has turned them down. (Gordan also not there for last 3 days) 

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, West end Saints said:

(Gordan also not there for last 3 days) 

That’ll go down well with Dyche. 

[Miltonaggro]

9 minutes ago, hackedoff said:

Ooww,it's getting really exciting now.

However it's like a child who wants a certain gift for Christmas,but the box he sees under the tree is not quite the same shape.

With Saints currently, the box in this analogy is Jimmy Salvile shaped. 

[East Kent Saint]

24 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Out of interest, does anyone here think Koeman or Poch would make a better stab at getting this squad to play better football and win games of football? I do - I don’t think it’s all about the money all the time. If that were the case we would never beat City 2-0 for example…it just wouldn’t be possible.

Maybe but I remember them both being called out on here for not having a plan B in matches plus the losing streaks etc !