Ainsley Maitland-Niles

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Suhari said:

I was pretty pleased with this signing.

It's not gone well though, has it?

Depends on your perspective. If you're FD at Arsenal you probably cant believe your luck someone is paying his wages and a loan fee.

[qwertyell]

Don't know why anyone thought he'd basically be replacing Romeu like for like. Never ever been that kind of player. 

We loaned him as cheap and nasty cover for both full back flanks until Livramento gets fit again.

That he's had to feature so often in midfield is simply an indictment of our ineptitude in balancing the squad this summer.

[Toussaint]

Is he shite or just thinking wtf have I done coming here? I don’t think he is shite, at least not with regard to ability, maybe attitude?

[Saint Garrett]

If he could learn to run, and pass, he might be a slightly competent footballer. 

He is utter shite and another drain on the finances, can’t imagine his wages are small. 

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

Hahaha 

Maintain he's got ability but he is not and never has been a defensive player. 

[Yozzman]

52 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Maintain he's got ability but he is not and never has been a defensive player. 

He started his career as a fullback.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Yozzman said:

He started his career as a fullback.

Winger wasn’t he? Then got moved to fullback by Emery at Arsenal 

[Saint_clark]

5 minutes ago, Yozzman said:

He started his career as a fullback.

Jermaine Wright played at fullback for us, it doesn't mean he was one. AMN has always been an attacking player filling in out of position. Waste of a career, from his point of view.

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, Yozzman said:

He started his career as a fullback.

No he didn’t. He said himself he wasn’t a defender and he had much to learn there as he was an attacking midfielder. As Turkish said, he came in for Arsenal as a makeshift right back, I think when Hector Bellerin was out injured. But before that he’d played in midfield for Arsenal as a nipper before going on loan at Ipswich where he played in midfield (before acting the cunt and getting himself dropped for off field reasons by Mick McCarthy).

[Monk]

Na, he's shite. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

He needs to drop down the divisions and make a name in a set position and not be a bench warmer.

Waste of a career in that sense but I’m sure his bank balance says otherwise.

[Dark Munster]

8 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

He needs to drop down the divisions and make a name in a set position and not be a bench warmer.

Waste of a career in that sense but I’m sure his bank balance says otherwise.

I don't think he was too bad today.

Aribo on the other hand ...

[Holmes_and_Watson]

he posted himself missing on at least a couple of occassions, resulting in team mates failing with riskier passes. Not at all convincing defensively. Did have a moment a lot further up the park, where he's probably best suited for.

[Give it to Ron]

What can he do when manager keeps moving him? How can he get settled when he starts right back, goes to left back start of second half then moved to midfield then subbed off in panic at end.

He wasn’t bad today

Edited 31 December, 2022 by Give it to Ron

[FarehamSaintJames]

1 hour ago, Dark Munster said:

I don't think he was too bad today.

Aribo on the other hand ...

Aribo has been crap since day one. Everyone just falls for the fancy step overs which he nearly always either overruns or screws up. He’s just Djenepo but with less work ethic. At least MD tries. JA just strolls around the pitch not involved with anything.

Lyanco is another people fall for purely because he occasionally beats his chest. He’s still a crap defender. 😅

[St Louis]

Definitely leaving Arsenal, and happy to stay with Saints if offered the chance.

These words mean little until we know what division we are in and what other clubs want him.

I would 100% keep him if we are in The Championship, and probably keep 'if' (big if) we stay in The Premier League, as he's a versatile squad player.

[S-Clarke]

I wouldn't want him anywhere near this club next year, not a massive fan of his attitude and technically he seems incredibly limited. 

If we sign him as part of our Championship squad then I fear we'd have learnt nothing. We need a reset and that means dumping the likes of him when we have the chance to. It's the time to be ruthless, not the time to start offering out contracts to more also-rans.

Edited 24 April, 2023 by S-Clarke

[FarehamSaintJames]

As above. Saints need to start planning now so that come day one of pre-season they have deals lined up and a squad ready to train.

AMN doesn’t have a great attitude, he’ll no doubt end up at a low end Premier League club but the EFL is more his ability.

[skintsaint]

Still not sure what his best position is 😅

[AlexLaw76]

19 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

As above. Saints need to start planning now so that come day one of pre-season they have deals lined up and a squad ready to train.

AMN doesn’t have a great attitude, he’ll no doubt end up at a low end Premier League club but the EFL is more his ability.

You watch, we will be still short come deadline day, with people saying we need to be patient and less entitled!

[notnowcato]

52 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I wouldn't want him anywhere near this club next year, not a massive fan of his attitude and technically he seems incredibly limited. 

If we sign him as part of our Championship squad then I fear we'd have learnt nothing. We need a reset and that means dumping the likes of him when we have the chance to. It's the time to be ruthless, not the time to start offering out contracts to more also-rans.

 

19 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

As above. Saints need to start planning now so that come day one of pre-season they have deals lined up and a squad ready to train.

AMN doesn’t have a great attitude, he’ll no doubt end up at a low end Premier League club but the EFL is more his ability.

Here we go again with the "bad attitude" bullshit.

 

[saintscottofthenortham]

I actually really like him. The fact he does everything with such calm that it makes him look like he doesn’t give a toss, but he does everything to a decent level, even when chucked in at CB. Sort of player who will go on for years, too. Great squad player for us IMO.

[Chez]

25 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

AMN doesn’t have a great attitude

Says who?

He certainly has a casual laid back style, which may not be to taste (I'm not keen), but that doesn't mean he has a bad attitude. He made it clear a few seasons ago that he preferred CM to fullback, but he seems to have been happy/willing to drop in there for us when the manager has requested it. That said, he's in a contract year, so perhaps it's not surprising that he wants to play and to impress.

Our squad is large. Should KWP depart, we still have Bree, Tino and Payne at RB, so at least one of them would need to be depart before he could be signed to a new deal, unless he was being considered for a CM slot.

 

[Wade Garrett]

Good squad player.  Very versatile.

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

I actually really like him. The fact he does everything with such calm that it makes him look like he doesn’t give a toss, but he does everything to a decent level, even when chucked in at CB. Sort of player who will go on for years, too. Great squad player for us IMO.

If we go down, not sure we can pay him (I'd imagine a sizeable amount) to be a squad player. I wonder if he is good enough to be a starting CM in the Championship.

 

[Crab Lungs]

Muck, no thanks.

[LuckyNumber7]

Assuming we go down, I think he'd be a decent free transfer for the Championship and offers plenty of versatility. I wouldn't keep him if we stay up though.

[SotonianWill]

12 minutes ago, Chez said:

If we go down, not sure we can pay him (I'd imagine a sizeable amount) to be a squad player. I wonder if he is good enough to be a starting CM in the Championship.

 

I think his calmness may get the better of him in the championship tbh

[HarvSFC]

Not for me. Doesn’t really seem to have the heart for football when on the pitch, too casual. In the Football League a bit of fight is needed, and is probably down to why he had such a shocker on the pitch against League Two Grimsby. When we were last down, we had two grafters who weren’t the best technically in Richardson and Butterfield.

I haven’t really seen anything of him that makes me think stick him on the wage bill and sign him permanently. Before us he had an Everton/West Ham singing written all over him. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

35 minutes ago, Chez said:

If we go down, not sure we can pay him (I'd imagine a sizeable amount) to be a squad player. I wonder if he is good enough to be a starting CM in the Championship.

 

Comfortably good enough, for me.

[SambaMaverick]

No thanks, Bree and Tino should be enough to go on in the Championship and he's pony in CM

[Saint Matty 76]

54 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

No thanks, Bree and Tino should be enough to go on in the Championship and he's pony in CM

Never seen a performance quite like his one in CM against Lincoln in the cup. Completely agree that he just isn't good enough to warrant keeping around.

[Lighthouse]

It’s a ‘no thanks’ from me personally. I know he’s supposedly versatile but in such a dreadful team he can’t seem to hold down a place anywhere. Useless in CM when Lavia was injured, at best you’d say he’s out in some competent performances on the right side of defence. He will want to be one of the best payed players in the Championship but really he’s just the Jermaine Wright of next season.

There’re a limited number of players we will be able to offload in summer and replace with top end, top earning Championship ones. I’d wouldn’t be hanging on to any of the current lot, with a couple of exceptions. 

[The Kraken]

2 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

As above. Saints need to start planning now so that come day one of pre-season they have deals lined up and a squad ready to train.

AMN doesn’t have a great attitude, he’ll no doubt end up at a low end Premier League club but the EFL is more his ability.

Will he? He’s hardly made an impact at a club that’s likely to finish bottom of the league; he’s started 11 league games this season. I can’t imagine he’s cheap either. His agent will have done very well if he gets him another PL gig. As said, we have at least Tino and Bree at RB, and AMN certainly isn’t an effective centre midfielder. It’s a no from me.

[Saint Fan CaM]

There must be some decent youngsters coming through the ranks that are better surely? Beyond Tino (assuming he comes back strong), I think Bree offers as much for the Championship as AMN so it’s probably a no from me.

[ally_uk]

I think he is rubbish personally and always looks miserable as fack playing football like it's a chore... 

[Turkish]

3 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Will he? He’s hardly made an impact at a club that’s likely to finish bottom of the league; he’s started 11 league games this season. I can’t imagine he’s cheap either. His agent will have done very well if he gets him another PL gig. As said, we have at least Tino and Bree at RB, and AMN certainly isn’t an effective centre midfielder. It’s a no from me.

Wasn't he also pretty shite for WBA the season they went down? He could be the new Nigel Quasie. When he's in your team you're down.

[The Kraken]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Wasn't he also pretty shite for WBA the season they went down? He could be the new Nigel Quasie. When he's in your team you're down.

Yep, 12 games that season after going there at the end of the January window.

As a CM I only see him as a passenger. He just doesn’t do enough, he likes to look involved but often just gets the ball and plays an early pass back to the defenders. Lavia is top quality but you can see that he looks to play on the turn and to break the lines. AMN offers very little of that. He’s better at full back but even still I’d rate him well below Tino.

[SambaMaverick]

Just a side note that he earns £35,000-a-week on his deal at Arsenal. I thought it would be more, but that doesn't make me any more happy about us potentially getting him permanently.

[DrunkenSaint]

Hes terrible, no thanks, we will have Tino back next season and Bree so we are good for RB's plus WBA passed on signing him when they were relegated, we need to avoid at all costs imo. 

[saint michael]

On 24/04/2023 at 12:54, Wade Garrett said:

Good squad player.  Very versatile.

Yes is able to play badly everywhere. Never chases back after inevitably losing the ball. Always late when needing to anticipate something. Cant pass the ball 3 yards. Never breaks into a canter. Apart from that he’s great 

[Toussaint]

30 minutes ago, saint michael said:

Yes is able to play badly everywhere. Never chases back after inevitably losing the ball. Always late when needing to anticipate something. Cant pass the ball 3 yards. Never breaks into a canter. Apart from that he’s great 

I though Lyanco was having a really solid game, AMN really weakened us today.

[S-Clarke]

Fraud of a footballer. First out of the door, don't let it hit you on the way out.

[OttawaSaint]

Absolutely garbage player. Seems that everyone can see but the club themselves. 

I wonder if SMS needs new carbon monoxide detectors?

- no need for a striker

- Jones

- Bednarek back

- AMN

- Elyounoussi 

- Selles 

- All transfers apart from Lavia and Alcaraz

[HnycS]

4 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Fraud of a footballer. First out of the door, don't let it hit you on the way out.

Agreed. Been following Saints since 1972 and he is arguably the player I have least enjoyed watching, certainly in the PL seasons.

Well to be honest there are some who have been worse to watch, but they all have better explanations, came with Saints from lower leagues etc.

But AMN I just do not get. This was his shop window and this is it? If the club doesn't have better B Team/Reserve players then Saints are in a world of hurt.

 

 

[WALK DMC]

7 hours ago, OttawaSaint said:

Absolutely garbage player. Seems that everyone can see but the club themselves. 

I wonder if SMS needs new carbon monoxide detectors?

- no need for a striker

- Jones

- Bednarek back

- AMN

- Elyounoussi 

- Selles 

- All transfers apart from Lavia and Alcaraz

I don't think all transfers have been bad. Bella-Kotchap is a very good signing. He is still young, and I assume that we will make a profit on him in the summer when he inevitably leaves. Plus the likes of Mara and Bazunu will probably make a good living as footballers (not sure which division ....) when they mature. 

I personally think Bednarek has played alright since coming back.  

[InvictaSaint]

9 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Fraud of a footballer. First out of the door, don't let it hit you on the way out.

Agree. Posted this at the end of yesterday’s game. Sums him up,

[Turkish]

5 hours ago, HnycS said:

Agreed. Been following Saints since 1972 and he is arguably the player I have least enjoyed watching, certainly in the PL seasons.

Well to be honest there are some who have been worse to watch, but they all have better explanations, came with Saints from lower leagues etc.

But AMN I just do not get. This was his shop window and this is it? If the club doesn't have better B Team/Reserve players then Saints are in a world of hurt.

 

 

To think he’s played for England 6 times. 

[Osvaldorama]

I have genuinely seen better players at Sunday league. He is properly stealing a living.
 

Technique level is possibly lower championship, but attitude is not even Sunday league. Just ambles around without a care in the world. Garbage. I was quite hopeful when we signed him, but thank god he’s only on loan. 

[John Boy Saint]

44 minutes ago, Turkish said:

To think he’s played for England 6 times. 

Not even the usual picked “for the badge on the shirt could get that number up” - underlines how great he isn’t.

The bit that sticks in my head from recent games was Palace when Charly pinged a rasper off the post as the ball ricocheted  out towards the sideline losing speed as it went, he motioned to go for it then just gave up despite it being very easily getable to ping back 8th the mix. No doubt we will give him a contract next season.