Jimmy_D Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr X said: Did the club put all their eggs in one basket with the striker this window? And when it never worked out it was too late for second choice option? Judging by the players we were linked to, we were certainly trying for a few different attacking players (and signed a couple of them). When it comes to out and out strikers good enough for the Prem, there aren’t too many baskets to put eggs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Pretty annoyed not to take a point. Che has to score. On the positive side Edozie looks a proper talent. He's very lean, but has that Foden style and confidence. Look forward to seeing a lot more. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Word of the day is composure. A little bit more from Bazunu and Adams at key moments and we come away with a result. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Just now, Saint_clark said: It's a bad miss, he needed a bit more composure to just stand and wait for the ball to drop but he panicked and rushed it. It is not however the worst miss of all time. Not even close to being in top 50 worst of all time. Recency bias FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Between the ABK chance and Che's two headers there were enough chances to score at least one. The stats show 12 shots and only one on target. It wasn't Che's day today, but there isn't really another option. Edozie looks a player, but probably as an impact sub for a while. Defense was alright, we missed Lavia as the shield in front though. Meh, one of those days. It's only really the Spurs game this season where you could say we really deserved to lose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 We'll win some, we'll lose some and we'll draw some this season. Didn't deserve to lose to Man Utd or today, but that's football. We'll win games this season that we didn't deserve to win. I think people have got carried away with our transfer business and expect us to be challenging for a top half finish immediately. These lads will need time, but the future looks bright. Plus we never win at Wolves, so this result shouldn't come as much of a surprise! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 8 minutes ago, cloggy saint said: We're in a relegation scrap already?? The bedwetters our in force early tonight!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 And that’s why we needed a decent striker. Sorry but that was known by the club and in an otherwise great window, that could be the difference in us having a really good season. That and Ralph still now not knowing again what his best team is when trying to beat a team like Wolves - Diallo and Ely are seriously too lightweight for these types of games, as Perraud and Djenepo are a liability going forwards when playing a back four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Just a wild stab in the dark…but I reckon we need a striker…you know…someone who can put the ball in the net. perhaps that should’ve been a priority in the transfer window. Others managed it I think. Diego Costa on a free anybody? All the good work undone because we couldn’t improve our striking options. such a shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Seen enough get Bas Dost or Diego Costa in..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 I'd love to see how we fared with Mara and Edozie running off Che. AMN has to replace Diallo and Djenepo should be ahead of Perraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 2 minutes ago, disconnect said: Mara has looked very promising every time he’s come on and can do things that Che and Armstrong can’t. We need to start playing him from the off as looks really good and can make things happen To me he's completely raw & subs bench is right place for him. Some good stuff(assist vs Leeds), some awful (header today which ended up going back to sender) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) Pretty even game. A little bit more clinical up front and we'd have got something. Our CB's do look exposed at times when our fullbacks are miles away, and Perraud's legs looked like they'd seriously gone towards the end. Edited 3 September, 2022 by Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Oh well, 3rd game at the end of a pretty intense week. A full week now to prepare for a very good Brentford side. Just highlights that the window was not quite the 2nd coming that many suggested (10/10 my arse). What was the glaring shortfall today was something we all (and the club) knew about. We are still leaking goals (10 is it now?). If we do not tighten up (noting the lack of finishers), we will be rooted within the bottom 6 soone enough, and no real progress, despite the investment. Says the football expert who thought Pelle was crap. We have signed some excellent new players, many of whom who have only turned up this week. Still, you carry on with your doom and gloom, it’s what you have been doing for years Batman. The rest of us will look forward to the players bedding in snd better days to come. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 This was my fear really, in the PL against most teams you don't ever get many chances (especially against Wolves), so when you do get a chance you need to be clinical - but we don't have clinical players sadly, and that has been evident for a long time now. It was a good performance from us in terms of the control of the game, we defended against them pretty well and limited their out and out opportunities, but against Wolves our own chances will be few and far between but we had a couple of good ones. That miss by Adams was just diabolical but sadly this is what he does, he's good for between 5-10 goals a season but not much more, as he spurns chances like that. Elyounoussi in an attacking sense was diabolical. We were much better with Armstrong in that position. Moussa added some directness to our game as well, Aribo struggled a bit as the game went on. Diallo was as expected out muscled in the middle of the park really, that pairing never works. The positive is that we look tighter, we have better recovery pace throughout the team, but my fear remains - we don't have a game changing attacker to turn tight games like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadjg Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dman said: Yes, correct, a new striker and we win 😊 What a stupid comment. So we sign the Dog & Duck striker and we win that's what you're saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 7 hours ago, S-Clarke said: This was my fear really, in the PL against most teams you don't ever get many chances (especially against Wolves), so when you do get a chance you need to be clinical - but we don't have clinical players sadly, and that has been evident for a long time now. It was a good performance from us in terms of the control of the game, we defended against them pretty well and limited their out and out opportunities, but against Wolves our own chances will be few and far between but we had a couple of good ones. That miss by Adams was just diabolical but sadly this is what he does, he's good for between 5-10 goals a season but not much more, as he spurns chances like that. Elyounoussi in an attacking sense was diabolical. We were much better with Armstrong in that position. Moussa added some directness to our game as well, Aribo struggled a bit as the game went on. Diallo was as expected out muscled in the middle of the park really, that pairing never works. The positive is that we look tighter, we have better recovery pace throughout the team, but my fear remains - we don't have a game changing attacker to turn tight games like that. I think we've signed two game changing attackers. Only a matter of time before they are starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 You can see why it took Che until he was 25 to score a professional goal with his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Thought we looked really bright and energetic with all the young lads. Ezodie looks great, very exciting. Just a shame that they got a huge slice of luck and we didn't punish them like we should have. Annoying to get zero points. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 1 minute ago, coalman said: I think we've signed two game changing attackers. Only a matter of time before they are starting. Edioze and Mara? That's pretty much what we're pinning our hopes on for sure, one of those is going to need to be a Broja for us, otherwise this is going to be an incredibly infuriating season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 We are set up to contain a lot these days (I get it, even if it's not great to see), so we invite a bit of pressure. Although Bazuniu bailed us out with a couple of runs out of his area, that was when we were trying to equalise. Wolves weren't peppering our goal. Their goal came from someone who went missing allowing a runner to have loads of space. It was in KWP's area. As Woves moved up the park reasonably quickly for the goal, he was probably miles away, and we hadn't got anyone in to cover that space. Wolves exploited that space behind KWP a couple of times. That's something Ralph is going to have to sort. Perraud got caught a bit for pace and positioning today, and has done a lot better previously. Diallo had some good passes, but the team really missed a Romeo/ Lavia figure today. I know the club were keen to move him on, lowering that wage bill. But Romeu had a lot of attributes that would have helped us out today. Being a bit more compact, means we're not initially going to create loads of chances outselves. We have to be clinical with what we get. Adams missed a sitter by striker standards, as the ball hit his arm from his head. He could have done better with a second effort too. But the formation would have been Adams or our new striker, and his hold up play is decent. Ralph does seem to have plenty of attacking options available, if not outright strikers. So when Edozie made a great run into the box, there was no one to take advantage of it. There are any number of teams similarly placed in the bottom half this season. Saints plan is to hope that the mostly youth signings can fire often enough to keep us safe. I was hoping for a point here today. Had it not been for acres of space given away for their goal, we'd have probably have got it, judging by the rest of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2022 A decent performance overall. Draw would've been a fair result. You win some, you lose some. Next. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Poor finishing cost us, not that we played brilliantly. Bright spot was Edozie's debut, very direct which we sorely lack with Elyounoussi starting and Stu seemingly relegated to the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, trousers said: A decent performance overall. Draw would've been a fair result. You win some, you lose some. Next. You win more though with a better attack. Ps don't think I didn't see the cliche. Edited 3 September, 2022 by hypochondriac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Some weird results in the EPL today and this is one of them, wolves didnt really offer much and their goal was a sort of miss kicked bobble whilst Che demonstrated how not to head a ball into an open goal and then 5mins later rattled the crossbar. Like what i saw with the new boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 4 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: Says the football expert who thought Pelle was crap. We have signed some excellent new players, many of whom who have only turned up this week. Still, you carry on with your doom and gloom, it’s what you have been doing for years Batman. The rest of us will look forward to the players bedding in snd better days to come. At least we are improving in Batman's eyes. A couple of weeks ago we were definitely going to be relegated. Now it is the bottom 6. I wonder if he has told Bournemouth that they are definitely going to be relegated. You would have thought that he would know that a 9 nil defeat does not mean automatic relegation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coalman Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 8 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Edioze and Mara? That's pretty much what we're pinning our hopes on for sure, one of those is going to need to be a Broja for us, otherwise this is going to be an incredibly infuriating season. Yes. I agree but I've seen enough to think both of them can be a Broja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: You win more though with a better attack. Ps don't think I didn't see the cliche. All's fair in love and war Edited 3 September, 2022 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Edozie motm for me even though he was only on the pitch for 20 minutes. Looks like he will create us chances. The problem is, do we have enough quality to finish them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: You win more though with a better attack Ah, so that's why Man City are better than us. I'm beginning to understand this football malarkey now Edited 3 September, 2022 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Very easy to foresee lots of " well, we did some good things, just unlucky on the day" results for the rest of the season. Let's hope we can bounce back against Brentford because the bottom six is going to be tight this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 22 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: you carry on with the sarky comments/replies to me. Reality tells it how it is 9/10 window, yeah? Are Newcastle in the relegation fight, as they also have the same number of points as Bournemouth ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Until we address the striker situation in January, this could be a common place occurence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Just now, badgerx16 said: Are Newcastle in the relegation fight, as they also have the same number of points as Bournemouth ? No, they just bought a £60m striker and can spend another £300m in January +sack Howe if required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) Can’t help but think that would have been a different game with Romeo or Romeu in there. JWP looked good when got on the ball but was busy mopping up for Diallo. His set pieces were dreadful, mind. End of the day, risible finishing has cost us at least a point. But can’t blame Adams for it all, the three behind him have to step up a bit we simply didn’t make their keeper work. Some shaky moments at the other end but more from Perraud being off the ball and no decent CM shielding going on. Elmo is really not up to it, Diallo is absolutely not a holding midfielder, Djenepo should only play if it’s to be at LB. Very impressed with how calm Edozie looks, exciting to see what he does. AMN was quiet but comfortable. A very Saints performance and result. Edited 3 September, 2022 by The Kraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Overall performance was OK but got to be disappointed with that, handed Wolves first win, their goal was very soft , out finishing was poor. Can see us being very inconsistent this season. Going to be a tight division the way its going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 September, 2022 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2022 25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: you carry on with the sarky comments/replies to me. Reality tells it how it is 9/10 window, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: No, they just bought a £60m striker and can spend another £300m in January +sack Howe if required So the number of points a team has is not the measure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 (edited) Just now, badgerx16 said: So the number of points a team has is not the measure ? it is one of them. Amazed you didn't know this. Concerning Edited 3 September, 2022 by AlexLaw76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 13 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Edioze and Mara? That's pretty much what we're pinning our hopes on for sure, one of those is going to need to be a Broja for us, otherwise this is going to be an incredibly infuriating season. Agree, we don't have a natural finisher in the side so will need a lot of chances per goal unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Does elynoussi have images of Ralph in uncompromising positions… he’s got something over Ralph, surely. He’s average at best, zero trickery, no pokery and slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 5 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: No, they just bought a £60m striker and can spend another £300m in January +sack Howe if required A striker who scored less goals than Che last year iirc…. People keep mouthing off about a ‘striker’ no one seems to have mentioned who this mythical being is, half the clubs in the PL have been looking for a clinical striker there just aren’t many about, even Man Utd couldn’t find one and Chelsea bought a 33 year old ( and known troublemaker) apart from Harland most of the best strikers about are in their 30s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 1 minute ago, madge said: Does elynoussi have images of Ralph in uncompromising positions… he’s got something over Ralph, surely. He’s average at best, zero trickery, no pokery and slow. I’m not a great fan of his but he was outstanding second half against Chelsea, he worked his guts out. I can see why Ralph stuck with him today tbf. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Can’t help but think that would have been a different game with Romeo or Romeu in there. JWP looked good when got on the ball but was busy mopping up for Diallo. His set pieces were dreadful, mind. End of the day, risible finishing has cost us at least a point. But can’t blame Adams for it, the three behind him have to step up a but, we simply didn’t make their keeper work. Some shaky moments at the other end but more from Perraud being off the ball and no decent CM shielding going on. Elmo is really not up to it, Diallo is absolutely not a holding midfielder, Djenepo should only play if it’s to be at LB. Very impressed with how calm Edozie looks, exciting to see what he does. AMN was quiet but comfortable. A very Saints performance and result. Agree with that. Diallo wasn't doing enough, expect Maitland Niles would have played there is match fit, will need him against Brentford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 12 minutes ago, coalman said: Yes. I agree but I've seen enough to think both of them can be a Broja in what way? Edioze looks like he could be very creative, and Mara looks like he wants to play in the hole, but neither are the same type as Broja, pace and power dribbling and on the shoulder of the CB stuff. Both can help us win games. Is that what you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 It's tantalizing because we look so energetic, positive and full of ideas and then the ball gets to Moi who takes too long to commit to anything and the Che who will either smash in a bicycle kick or miss an open goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 3 minutes ago, tajjuk said: A striker who scored less goals than Che last year iirc…. People keep mouthing off about a ‘striker’ no one seems to have mentioned who this mythical being is, half the clubs in the PL have been looking for a clinical striker there just aren’t many about, even Man Utd couldn’t find one and Chelsea bought a 33 year old ( and known troublemaker) apart from Harland most of the best strikers about are in their 30s. Yep. He had a very poor season last year, but prior to that he has looked a rare talent. Scamacca was available for the exact same money as the Gakpo fee, if you believe the amounts being quoted. I agree with you though. Finding top notch strikers is bloody tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 26 minutes ago, warsash saint said: The bedwetters our in force early tonight!! How many points do you think we will get by the end of October Saturday 10th September PREMIER LEAGUE Southampton15:00Brentford Friday 16th September PREMIER LEAGUE Aston Villa20:00Southampton Saturday 1st October PREMIER LEAGUE Southampton15:00Everton Saturday 8th October PREMIER LEAGUE Manchester City15:00Southampton Sunday 16th October PREMIER LEAGUE Southampton14:00West Ham United Wednesday 19th October PREMIER LEAGUE AFC Bournemouth19:30Southampton Sunday 23rd October PREMIER LEAGUE Southampton14:00Arsenal Saturday 29th October PREMIER LEAGUE Crystal Palace15:00Southampton E CAPTURE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 Very frustrating result. Stu Armstrong made a difference and the two CB’s looked impressive once again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 September, 2022 Share Posted 3 September, 2022 8 minutes ago, madge said: Does elynoussi have images of Ralph in uncompromising positions… he’s got something over Ralph, surely. He’s average at best, zero trickery, no pokery and slow. there was one lovely reverse through ball in the first half and some other nice interplay that often goes unnoticed, but a lot didn't work. I think he can play at this level, his touch is decent, but he just doesn't ever run a game, dominate it. Its small flashes at best. You need more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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