Saint Garrett Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 26 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Adams is really out of the circle of trust. Diallo, not a peep so far, so of course will start Adams only trained 1 day this week. On bench I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Adams only trained 1 day this week. On bench I think Ah, fair one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 9 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Bazunu KWP ABK Sali Moussa Aribo Lavia JWP Diallo AArmstrong Mara 😬 Djenepo as LB of 4? Thought he was ok last game but this may not end well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 9 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Bazunu KWP ABK Sali Moussa Aribo Lavia JWP Diallo AArmstrong Mara 😬 If that is the team I like it. 4-3-3 pretty much. When Djenepo has ventured forward, Salisu can cover left back and one of the CMs can cover in defence. Think tactically that could work well for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Just now, Pamplemousse said: If that is the team I like it. 4-3-3 pretty much. When Djenepo has ventured forward, Salisu can cover left back and one of the CMs can cover in defence. Think tactically that could work well for us Yeah. We played a kind of hybrid in game 3/4/5 atb last season at times, Diallo seems to be able to slot in and cover which I’m guessing is why he’s in the team. Regardless of the team though, It’s not an easy place to go. Fans will moan if we go 3 or 4 atb so Ralph can’t win really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint93 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 We are going to win today 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Given Ralph’s comments I can’t see us deviating from three CBs at the back. I think we won’t be too far off the starting XI from last week. Hopefully Elmo out, Bednarek maybe dropped for Lyanco given the situation there. If we went 4 at the back, we’d have to play Djenepo at LB and it would be a big weak spot which is the main reason I think we won’t do it. If it is a 4 though, it needs to be a very solid one, so: Bazunu KWP - ABP - Salisu - Djenepo JWP - Lavia - Romeu Aribo - S.Armstrong Adams It won’t be that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Personally expect Ralph to continue with the awful 3/5 at the back. Could Romeu slot in between ABK and Salisu? I think he's done it before and looked pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Bazunu KWP - ABP - Salisu - Djenepo JWP - Lavia - Romeu Aribo - S.Armstrong Adams As Saint Garrett mentioned that Adams hasn't trained much this week, he'll probably be benched. And I know some will say crazy to take our best central player out of the midfield but I would think the circumstances would justify JWP switching to RB and KWP to LB if we want to go with a 4. Diallo is best in JWP's position and performed best in that role so could be our most reliable 4 across the back if we go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 It is far too early to expect too much from Hasenhüttl's hopefuls, they need time to settle to the pace and physicality of the PL and to gel together sufficiently to develop the automatism that we have seen occasionally in the past. The period up to the WC break will be mainly one of learning their trade and developing consistency as individual players. After the break with luck we will see the beginnings of a new more exciting era for Saints on the pitch as work concentrates more on formations and partnerships. For now it will be business pretty much as usual with erratic team selections and substitutions interspersed with missed opportunities up front and calamitous lapses in concentration at the back. I cannot see us taking the world by storm just yet. Leicester also have their problems with players leaving or unsettled by speculation. On balance though they have better quality than us in too many positions and they have home advantage so I'm going for 2-1 or even 3-1 to the Foxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Given Ralph’s comments I can’t see us deviating from three CBs at the back. I think we won’t be too far off the starting XI from last week. Hopefully Elmo out, Bednarek maybe dropped for Lyanco given the situation there. If we went 4 at the back, we’d have to play Djenepo at LB and it would be a big weak spot which is the main reason I think we won’t do it. If it is a 4 though, it needs to be a very solid one, so: Bazunu KWP - ABP - Salisu - Djenepo JWP - Lavia - Romeu Aribo - S.Armstrong Adams It won’t be that though. It ought to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: Adams is really out of the circle of trust. Diallo, not a peep so far, so of course will start Have you ever considered bottling your abundant cynicism and flogging it on Etsy? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 7 minutes ago, trousers said: Have you ever considered bottling your abundant cynicism and flogging it on Etsy? 6 points from the last 45 is not down to my cynicism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 13 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: 6 points from the last 45 is not down to my cynicism Time to move on and get behind Ralph. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 This game today is definitely a winnable one. Hoping we can carry on from where we finished the last game. Carry that momentum forwards. I would like to see Ralph go back to a back four: Bazunu Stephens ABK Salisu KWP Aribo JWP Lavia Djenepo Adams Adam Armstrong Bring Stuart Armstrong on early in the second half. Then followed by Mara. Or if we do keep three at the back - I like the idea of having Oriol in the middle of ABK and Salisu. We used that a few times last season and it worked out really well 2-0 to us today Aribo and Prowsey to score - COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: 6 points from the last 45 is not down to my cynicism Have you ever considered bottling your abundant non-sequiturism and flogging it on Etsy? Edited 20 August, 2022 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 I think he’ll start five at the back again and revert to a four in the second half. Leicester look very good going forward, defensively they’re poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 5 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I think he’ll start five at the back again and revert to a four in the second half. Leicester look very good going forward, defensively they’re poor. Exactly, so why play our 3/5 where we leave massive gaps in behind as the 3 cbs aren't good enough and don't take responsibility in a 3, stick to Salisu and ABK and get them to form a partnership , we give them space and Maddison will keep feeding the weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 11 minutes ago, danjosaint said: Exactly, so why play our 3/5 where we leave massive gaps in behind as the 3 cbs aren't good enough and don't take responsibility in a 3, stick to Salisu and ABK and get them to form a partnership , we give them space and Maddison will keep feeding the weasel I can just see Ralph looking to keep us in the game first half and then take the game to Leicester in the second. I hate five at the back but I’m very much 50/50 on what he’ll pick judging by his pre-match comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 12 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Bazunu KWP ABK Sali Moussa Aribo Lavia JWP Diallo AArmstrong Mara 😬 If this is true then I do like it. Either the 4222 with Diallo in front of Djenepo for protection, or a 433 with Aribo - Mara - AA which I equally like as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 53 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I can just see Ralph looking to keep us in the game first half and then take the game to Leicester in the second. I hate five at the back but I’m very much 50/50 on what he’ll pick judging by his pre-match comments. 3 CBs could work as long as he was picking 3 attacking players at the other end with the freedom to go at Leicester with the wingbacks, leaving the three CBs and Lavia to sit deep defending the break with JWP lingering for the long range shot. Trouble is he picks 3 at the back, one striker and one attacking midfielder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 I'm going to be positive 😱 and say we sneak a 3-2 win in the last 10 minutes with Lavia the scorer...... don't let me down saints! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Looks like a back four …… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, davefizzy14 said: This game today is definitely a winnable one. Hoping we can carry on from where we finished the last game. Carry that momentum forwards. I would like to see Ralph go back to a back four: Bazunu Stephens ABK Salisu KWP Aribo JWP Lavia Djenepo Adams Adam Armstrong Bring Stuart Armstrong on early in the second half. Then followed by Mara. Or if we do keep three at the back - I like the idea of having Oriol in the middle of ABK and Salisu. We used that a few times last season and it worked out really well 2-0 to us today Aribo and Prowsey to score - COYR Edited 20 August, 2022 by Midfield_General I’m an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 (edited) Garrett was close, definitely 4-2-2-2 though. Edited 20 August, 2022 by Saint Matty 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Glad we spent pre-season doing the 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Garrett was close, definitely 4-2-2-2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Aside from Moi. Happy with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Not enough is being made of our utter farce of a pre season. Anyway, shame we have to start with 10 men but at least that’ll change with Ely is pulled 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Not bad. Perhaps AA and Mara can form an effective partnership. I don't like having Moi in there. Was a passenger last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Just now, trousers said: Interesting, not sure on why it'd be Elyounoussi over Diallo/Armstrong then. I like the fact we're straying to a 433 though for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Just now, LGTL said: Not enough is being made of our utter farce of a pre season. Anyway, shame we have to start with 10 men but at least that’ll change with Ely is pulled To be fair, the 3/5 at the back lasted longer than I thought. About 150 minutes into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Appy said: Glad we spent pre-season doing the 5 After the end to last season, you’d prefer we hadn’t tried a different formation in pre-season to try and compensate for our defensive frailties? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 I'm not usually one to moan and groan about the starting line up, but what did Elyounoussi do last week to warrant another starting berth? He was pretty much anonymous for 95% of the game Vs Leeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 No Stephens or Redmond even on bench…….maybe they are off ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 If we have to chase the game, that bench offers very little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 I'd have left Mara on the bench and had Adams as the central striker with Aribo and Armstrong either side of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 does Ayoze Perez ever play/score against any other team other than us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 4 at the back: good! Still no Perraud. Injured still, or is he off? No Stephens. Excited to see Mara from the off. Wonder if AA will be through the middle or wide left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: After the end to last season, you’d prefer we hadn’t tried a different formation in pre-season to try and compensate for our defensive frailties? I’d rather more bodies in our midfield, we’ve shown in the past under Ralph a 5 doesn’t suit us, as our defenders are mainly abysmal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said: I'd have left Mara on the bench and had Adams as the central striker with Aribo and Armstrong either side of him. Apparently Che could only train once this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 minute ago, Bad Wolf said: I'd have left Mara on the bench and had Adams as the central striker with Aribo and Armstrong either side of him. I don't think Adams is 100% fit? (Or at least he had to miss several training sessions during the week?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 1 minute ago, trousers said: I'm not usually one to moan and groan about the starting line up, but what did Elyounoussi do last week to warrant another starting berth? He was pretty much anonymous for 95% of the game Vs Leeds. What choice do we really have? With the five subs rule, you need to have something on the bench to change things second half. Sure, we could have started with Stu but then if we needed to change things second half we’d have to do it with Moi, Walcott and Adams, which is a dreadful bench at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 4 minutes ago, LGTL said: Not enough is being made of our utter farce of a pre season. Anyway, shame we have to start with 10 men but at least that’ll change with Ely is pulled Depends whether he's replaced by Walcott! Where's he suddenly sprung from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Well it’s positive to see all five summer signings start…. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 2 minutes ago, trousers said: I don't think Adams is 100% fit? (Or at least he had to miss several training sessions during the week?) Oh fair enough then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Djenepo LB as part of a back 5 is one thing but as part of a back 4?! Now that's brave. Especially against Perez who only plays well twice a year...Against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 20 August, 2022 Share Posted 20 August, 2022 Moi is the latest player to have something on ralph, he was very very very poor last week so he nailed on for a goal today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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