Yorkshire Saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Thats why I wont miss the Premier league. Disgusting decision .. you dont give a penalty for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 What a wanker to go and taunt the City fans. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) I have no idea what is and what isn't a handball anymore. I saw 2 West Ham games with 2 penalties not given that I though were clear penalties. One, the player, I think was Soucek, he saved the ball. Edited 3 June, 2023 by OttawaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 3 June, 2023 6 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: VAR ruining the game. VAR doesn’t do anything other than give officials a better look at an incident. If you have a gripe it’s with the officials, who are capable of making equally bad decisions in real time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: VAR doesn’t do anything other than give officials a better look at an incident. If you have a gripe it’s with the officials, who are capable of making equally bad decisions in real time. No. It does a lot more than that. It interferes with the natural flow of the game. TV replays are misleading especially when slow motion is used plus there is the psycho visual effect whereby the more you watch something the more you become convinced that the action was deliberate. In this instance the real time decision by the officials at the game was ‘no penalty’. And they were correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 11 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said: I have no idea what is and what isn't a handball anymore. I saw 2 West Ham games with 2 penalties not given that I though were clear penalties. One, the player, I think was Soucek, he saved the ball. Remember McTominay? In their game with us. He juggled the ball three times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Remember McTominay? In their game with us. He juggled the ball three times. That was the most shocking decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 City getting shafted here. They’re good enough to win regardless, hopefully they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Don't really care who wins but the pen was ridiculous.....never was one.....and City should have had one. Shocking.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Remember McTominay? In their game with us. He juggled the ball three times. Oh yes and yet Bertie conceded a penalty with his arms behind his back and Ings goal in another game disallowed too when it never touched his arm. Heck I think in the same game that Bertie got dinged a Wolves player moved his arm to deflect the ball and no pen given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 3 June, 2023 10 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: No. It does a lot more than that. It interferes with the natural flow of the game. TV replays are misleading especially when slow motion is used plus there is the psycho visual effect whereby the more you watch something the more you become convinced that the action was deliberate. In this instance the real time decision by the officials at the game was ‘no penalty’. And they were correct. Without it we have absurdity like Henry vs. Ireland, Fonte vs. Brighton and David Silva’s goal against us in 2014. You can debate whether that was really a penalty but the point is it was debatable, rather than a travesty, which is what VAR removes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 34 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: VAR ruining the game. This is why I've given up on football, what a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 surely that goal should be kept out? deflection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) Wow! He's done it again. Gundogan! 2-1 City! Edited 3 June, 2023 by OttawaSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: surely that goal should be kept out? deflection? Looks like no, was spinning like crazy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 13 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Without it we have absurdity like Henry vs. Ireland, Fonte vs. Brighton and David Silva’s goal against us in 2014. You can debate whether that was really a penalty but the point is it was debatable, rather than a travesty, which is what VAR removes. VAR is shite mate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 VAR missed this one though... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Without it we have absurdity like Henry vs. Ireland, Fonte vs. Brighton and David Silva’s goal against us in 2014. You can debate whether that was really a penalty but the point is it was debatable, rather than a travesty, which is what VAR removes. No it doesn’t, it creates far more travesties than it removes. Edited 3 June, 2023 by Whitey Grandad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: VAR missed this one though... I need Casimero (and Walker) to complete a foul accumulator. Criminal he is still on no fouls after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex_saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 How has Fred not been sent off? A walking disaster waiting to happen for man u right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) Do they ever do word counts on co-commentators? Jenas just doesn’t shut up with his mostly inane utterances Edited 3 June, 2023 by whelk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) Just now, whelk said: Do they ever do word counts on co-commentators? jenas just doesn’t shut up with his inane utterances I would recommend chopping to ITV, but they have that whopper Matterface on the mic Edited 3 June, 2023 by AlexLaw76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: I would recommend chopping to ITV, but they have that whopper Matterface on the mic But the mic's seem really quiet - not a bad thing mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 3 June, 2023 Author Share Posted 3 June, 2023 20 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: No it doesn’t, it creates far more travesties than it removes. When was goal we conceded which was a yard offside? Or one we had disallowed which was a yard on? Or penalty we conceded where a player was literally never touched and threw himself to the floor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Fred finally gets a yellow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Will we be the only team to have beaten City in a cup competition this season? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Garnacho shows how poor Sancho is in comparison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 City 2-1 United. City much the better side 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Deserved win for City! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 One of the most boring cup finals i've ever seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 LOL, cutting from the camera filming the girl being a bit rude lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 46 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: I would recommend chopping to ITV, but they have that whopper Matterface on the mic Soon as I heard Jenas I reached for the remote, blokes the football equivalent of Val fucking Doonican . ITV far better, Ali Mcoist brilliant & they’ve got Keane monstering the keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: LOL, cutting from the camera filming the girl being a bit rude lololol Did you see everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: VAR missed this one though... In the first 10 mins, can't be booked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Just now, whelk said: Did you see everything? No, but she was suggesting to a player if they called, she would clean his piece with her mouth 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: No, but she was suggesting to a player if they called, she would clean his piece with her mouth 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 15 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: No, but she was suggesting to a player if they called, she would clean his piece with her mouth 🤣 I think Noel Gallagher has made a similar offer to Pep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 How can it NOT be a penalty? Arms in the air, hand used to stop the ball in motion. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex_saint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: How can it NOT be a penalty? Arms in the air, hand used to stop the ball in motion. Um, no - that's a natural thing to do with you arms as you jump. It didn't affect the trajectory of the ball, or impact the play. A shit rule which should definitely be placed under review for next season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: LOL, cutting from the camera filming the girl being a bit rude lololol https://twitter.com/nocontextfooty/status/1665032140629725189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: When was goal we conceded which was a yard offside? Or one we had disallowed which was a yard on? Or penalty we conceded where a player was literally never touched and threw himself to the floor? That’s football. It’s not an exact sport, never has been and never will be. No amount of television replays will ever change that. Offside was never intended to be more accurate than a yard or two. Penalties are subjective decisions and as we all know there doesn’t have to be contact for it to be a foul. My gripe with VAR is that it is re-refereeing the game and destroys the flow, the rhythm and the excitement but more than that it is less accurate than the person who is right there in the middle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 3 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: How can it NOT be a penalty? Arms in the air, hand used to stop the ball in motion. It never used to be a penalty until VAR. “Ball to hand” was always the mantra. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 What a nasty cunt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, whelk said: What a nasty cunt What a Cnut. I’m all for rivalry, but that’s just plain nasty. Keep it at banter! Edited 3 June, 2023 by Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 June, 2023 Share Posted 3 June, 2023 On 27/05/2023 at 20:48, S-Clarke said: What a story for Luton, certainly interesting to see an unusual face in the PL rather than the likes of Norwich, WBA or Watford - boring as hell. But I kinda fear for Luton a bit, I do not see how they can compete in the PL. It's going to be a tall order and it could be quite a humbling year for them if they're not careful (not that they give a shit now, but come next January they'll probably hate it) People said that about Burnley and a few others who have surprised and done pretty well too over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 4 June, 2023 Share Posted 4 June, 2023 11 hours ago, Dr Who? said: What a Cnut. I’m all for rivalry, but that’s just plain nasty. Keep it at banter! Take some solace from the fact that it’s only a matter of time until his name gets released and his life is ruined. Serves the prick right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 4 June, 2023 Share Posted 4 June, 2023 14 hours ago, Sussex_saint said: Um, no - that's a natural thing to do with you arms as you jump. It didn't affect the trajectory of the ball, or impact the play. A shit rule which should definitely be placed under review for next season. I agree but that's an issue with the rule, not the decision. By the letter of the law, as it stands now - It was the correct decision. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 June, 2023 Share Posted 4 June, 2023 12 hours ago, The Cat said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 June, 2023 Share Posted 4 June, 2023 45 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: I agree but that's an issue with the rule, not the decision. By the letter of the law, as it stands now - It was the correct decision. No. It was still a subjective decision. Was his arm in an ‘unnatural position’? Did he intentionally make his body bigger? Did the referee take into account how close Grealish was? Whatever we may think, the referee on the pitch at the time made his own decision that it wasn’t handball. He was overruled from a box somewhere a long way away from the incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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