badgerx16 Posted 17 March, 2023 Share Posted 17 March, 2023 57 minutes ago, macca155 said: 9 teams within 5 points of each other. Its going to be dog eat dog down the bottom. To find the other 2 relegated teams joining Saints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 March, 2023 Share Posted 17 March, 2023 1 hour ago, macca155 said: 9 teams within 5 points of each other. Its going to be dog eat dog down the bottom. It's so cute that some people honestly think we are still in the mix jostling with other teams to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 17 March, 2023 Share Posted 17 March, 2023 49 minutes ago, CB Fry said: It's so cute that some people honestly think we are still in the mix jostling with other teams to stay up. We are, the numbers speak for themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, cloggy saint said: We are, the numbers speak for themselves. They certainly do. - Not scored more than 1 goal in an EPL game since mid January - A forward or attacking midfielder hasn't scored an EPL goal for Saints since November. - 90th out of 92 in 2022 - Two goals in the last 2 months in the EPL The rest must be shitting themselves! Edited 18 March, 2023 by OttawaSaint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 7 hours ago, cloggy saint said: We are, the numbers speak for themselves. But in our hearts we know we are f..cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, cloggy saint said: We are, the numbers speak for themselves. 0.8 points a game equalling a full season total of 30 points. Bottom three non stop since World Cup. We need top 8 form from here on to get to 38 points and we've barely won a home match all season. Yes, if you're the kind of moron that gets excited by "look look the team in 16th is only 2 points ahead!!!!!" Then fill your boots. We had our little positive run and still we're bottom at the end of it and you still don't get it. The numbers absolutely speak for themselves. Edited 18 March, 2023 by CB Fry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstowin Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Off relegation topic, kind of, but the home win banker Manchester City game....will it now revert back to the Saturday if the BBC site is correct and their CL game is on the Tuesday afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstowin Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2023-03-18/fixture-amendments-southampton-manchester-city-bournemouth-premier-league-2023 Just seen this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 7 minutes ago, saintstowin said: https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2023-03-18/fixture-amendments-southampton-manchester-city-bournemouth-premier-league-2023 Just seen this! I must say i’m not enjoying the continuous games due to the world cup. when you’re bottom of the league it really does become a chore two times a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 29 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: I must say i’m not enjoying the continuous games due to the world cup. when you’re bottom of the league it really does become a chore two times a week So true! Especially when our players tried to reinstate a bit of hope for some after the Leicester and United results, only to do what they always do and crush it straight afterwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 3 hours ago, CB Fry said: 0.8 points a game equalling a full season total of 30 points. Bottom three non stop since World Cup. We need top 8 form from here on to get to 38 points and we've barely won a home match all season. Yes, if you're the kind of moron that gets excited by "look look the team in 16th is only 2 points ahead!!!!!" Then fill your boots. We had our little positive run and still we're bottom at the end of it and you still don't get it. The numbers absolutely speak for themselves. No need to resort to insults mate, the fact is we are still in with a shout of saving ourselves., regardless of what's gone before. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 I think I’m sticking with my Leeds, Bournemouth and Saints call. Honestly can’t see beyond those 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 3 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: I think I’m sticking with my Leeds, Bournemouth and Saints call. Honestly can’t see beyond those 3. Me too we will be bottom, B’ mouth then Leeds on goal difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 On 05/08/2022 at 21:39, Maggie May said: I think Palace will struggle this year. Just a hunch. I was right again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloggy saint Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 15 minutes ago, Maggie May said: I was right again. Where would you like your statue to be built? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Jesse Marsch is definitely ending up at Palace. A bit like Ted Lasso ends up at AFC Richmond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Austin has just scored his fourth to put Swindon 3-4 in front !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Please turn up Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 19 hours ago, CB Fry said: It's so cute that some people honestly think we are still in the mix jostling with other teams to stay up. Have you seriously given up? If it is OK with you I won't just yet. I concede pretty nailed on we're going down, but a glimmer of hope remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Everton losing to Chelsea 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint NL said: Everton losing to Chelsea 👍 Not any more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Chelsea 2-1 Everton Haaland scores another 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Ffs Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Burnley finding out how much work they'll need to do in the next pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Just imagine if we’d got Sean Dyche when we should (despite those on here whining about his ‘playing style’). Gets results. And we’d be well clear. Bloody algorithms 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 We need too much to go our way to survive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 2 hours ago, macca155 said: Have you seriously given up? If it is OK with you I won't just yet. I concede pretty nailed on we're going down, but a glimmer of hope remains. You've really shown me up with your relentless optimism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: We need too much to go our way to survive now. Not only that but we need to go on a run of 3 wins in a row to pull us out and give us confidence. It's just not going to happen, I can't remember the last time we managed back to back league wins, never mind 3 in a row. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 3 hours ago, DT said: Just imagine if we’d got Sean Dyche when we should (despite those on here whining about his ‘playing style’). Gets results. And we’d be well clear. Bloody algorithms I agree we should’ve got Sean Dyche instead of Nathan Jones, but equally you need a certain calibre of player to excel in his tactics. Their defenders and holding kids aren’t players that go down easily, they aren’t made of glass like some of our players. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 18 March, 2023 Share Posted 18 March, 2023 1 hour ago, Micky said: Not only that but we need to go on a run of 3 wins in a row to pull us out and give us confidence. It's just not going to happen, I can't remember the last time we managed back to back league wins, never mind 3 in a row. Agreed, despite the fact that I keep trying to persuade myself it will somehow come right, the cold hard reality will probably hit soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 March, 2023 Author Share Posted 18 March, 2023 Everton will stay up because their squad is not and should never have been relegation material. Dyche will keep them up by being mediocre where Lampard was dreadful. Next season expectant Everton fans will demand progress towards their rightful place in the Champions League; Dyche will provide further mediocrity with turgid football, uninspiring results and a forgettable, bottom half league position. Around Christmas the board will decide he has taken them as far as he can and sack him. Selles has 8 points from his 6 league games in charge, exactly the same as Dyche in his last 6. I doubt we’d be any better off with him here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Everton will stay up because their squad is not and should never have been relegation material. Dyche will keep them up by being mediocre where Lampard was dreadful. Next season expectant Everton fans will demand progress towards their rightful place in the Champions League; Dyche will provide further mediocrity with turgid football, uninspiring results and a forgettable, bottom half league position. Around Christmas the board will decide he has taken them as far as he can and sack him. Selles has 8 points from his 6 league games in charge, exactly the same as Dyche in his last 6. I doubt we’d be any better off with him here. True. But if Dyche had been appointed instead of Nathan F*cking Jones I think we'd be above the drop line and with a good shout of survival. Edited 19 March, 2023 by Dark Munster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 12 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Everton will stay up because their squad is not and should never have been relegation material. Dyche will keep them up by being mediocre where Lampard was dreadful. Next season expectant Everton fans will demand progress towards their rightful place in the Champions League; Dyche will provide further mediocrity with turgid football, uninspiring results and a forgettable, bottom half league position. Around Christmas the board will decide he has taken them as far as he can and sack him. Selles has 8 points from his 6 league games in charge, exactly the same as Dyche in his last 6. I doubt we’d be any better off with him here. I said at the time that we needed to go get him when Ralph was in his turgid period at the back end of last season. We have lower expectations than Everton, meaning it was even more laughable and unrealistic to have awarded a lucrative contract (and ultimately our survival chances) to that pillock from Luton. I still have to pinch myself at the stupidity of the board and Rasmus in particular, with his ego-driven belief in numbers and not common sense. We will pay for it by having many years in the Championship or even below. Which is very sad. Going to try and see Saints in the premier while i can as much as i can in the run up to being sent down by Brighton, probably. The only thing giving me a little optimism is our goal difference is currently not the worst, meaning being level on the last day may still be ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 14 hours ago, Lighthouse said: Everton will stay up because their squad is not and should never have been relegation material. Dyche will keep them up by being mediocre where Lampard was dreadful. Next season expectant Everton fans will demand progress towards their rightful place in the Champions League; Dyche will provide further mediocrity with turgid football, uninspiring results and a forgettable, bottom half league position. Around Christmas the board will decide he has taken them as far as he can and sack him. Selles has 8 points from his 6 league games in charge, exactly the same as Dyche in his last 6. I doubt we’d be any better off with him here. This, Everton have been doing this every 2 years or so, spend shed loads, appoint manager with good style, goes tits up, appoint clogger, clogger saves them, next season clogger produces expected turd football and they go again. Dyche is not some sort of magic man, he's done no different to what Selles has done which is basically go back to basics and try to be as solid as possible. He's only got as many points as he's got because no one expected an old full back like Coleman to run into the channel and shoot from an absurd angle, which somehow fluked them 3 points in a game they were completely outplayed in. They have been turgid in pretty much every game since he took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 March, 2023 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2023 13 hours ago, Dark Munster said: True. But if Dyche had been appointed instead of Nathan F*cking Jones I think we'd be above the drop line and with a good shout of survival. 3 hours ago, DT said: I said at the time that we needed to go get him when Ralph was in his turgid period at the back end of last season. We have lower expectations than Everton, meaning it was even more laughable and unrealistic to have awarded a lucrative contract (and ultimately our survival chances) to that pillock from Luton. I still have to pinch myself at the stupidity of the board and Rasmus in particular, with his ego-driven belief in numbers and not common sense. We will pay for it by having many years in the Championship or even below. Which is very sad. Going to try and see Saints in the premier while i can as much as i can in the run up to being sent down by Brighton, probably. The only thing giving me a little optimism is our goal difference is currently not the worst, meaning being level on the last day may still be ok Nothing relating to Jones would have been justification for appointing Dyche. Sure, the latter is a better manager than the former but so is pretty much any other option we had available, including not sacking Ralph at all, or sacking him and just having Selles in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Nothing relating to Jones would have been justification for appointing Dyche. Sure, the latter is a better manager than the former but so is pretty much any other option we had available, including not sacking Ralph at all, or sacking him and just having Selles in charge. A potato sitting on a chair would’ve been a better option than Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 2 hours ago, tajjuk said: This, Everton have been doing this every 2 years or so, spend shed loads, appoint manager with good style, goes tits up, appoint clogger, clogger saves them, next season clogger produces expected turd football and they go again. Dyche is not some sort of magic man, he's done no different to what Selles has done which is basically go back to basics and try to be as solid as possible. He's only got as many points as he's got because no one expected an old full back like Coleman to run into the channel and shoot from an absurd angle, which somehow fluked them 3 points in a game they were completely outplayed in. They have been turgid in pretty much every game since he took over. Factor in a decent keeper as well, the difference Pickford will make to Everton's survival chances should not be under estimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Well at least Sky can talk about only 4 points between the bottom 9 teams for the next couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 March, 2023 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Even with all those dreadful results under Jones, all we had to do was not throw away a 1-0 lead at home to a crap, ten man Wolves team and we’d be 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 29 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Even with all those dreadful results under Jones, all we had to do was not throw away a 1-0 lead at home to a crap, ten man Wolves team and we’d be 15th. Problem with that logic is we'd then have kept Jones and by now been truly f**ked. See Palace are keeping up their crap form. Didn't see their game today but by all accounts they were useless - though their next six games are all against relegation rivals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Why is it when it all kicks off on the pitch the commentators always say “these are scenes you don’t want to see” no this is exactly what we want to see 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 (edited) All going off at Old Trafford, Fulham 3 reds in one incident.... lol Edited 19 March, 2023 by Micky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Prutton type ban coming up for Mitrovic? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Haven't seen it yet. Was it worse than what Fernandes did a little while back and got off scot free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 This is terrible for us. Willian and Mitrovic are banned for 3 games now at least, and Fulham's next three are... Bournemouth, West Ham and Everton. Watch all 3 of those win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 William for handball, manager for getting in refs ear in VAR area, Mitrivic for pushing the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Feel a bit for Fulham, up until that point they have been really good, no chance now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 Just now, Micky said: Feel a bit for Fulham, up until that point they have been really good, no chance now though. Why? They’ve got a huge advantage now having two players sent off, If you thought it was tough to play against 10 let’s see how hard it is against 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 4 minutes ago, nta786 said: This is terrible for us. Willian and Mitrovic are banned for 3 games now at least, and Fulham's next three are... Bournemouth, West Ham and Everton. Watch all 3 of those win. 🤣 of course they do FFS 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 19 March, 2023 Share Posted 19 March, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Why? They’ve got a huge advantage now having two players sent off, If you thought it was tough to play against 10 let’s see how hard it is against 9 The 'Jones affect'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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