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. I agree a better manager may have spent more wisely but it didn't happen.

 

And that's all I was getting at, in that we did have some choices regarding who we brought in.

 

They were not massive choices and they were most definitley limited by finances, but there were choices nonetheless.

 

And it looks as though we both agree that on balance the wrong choices were made.

 

What might be up for grabs though is how responsible Jan was for spending that money, because I fear on too many occasions other peoples choices and input came into play.

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Rating only 5.

'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive."

 

Well done Rupert.

A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ?

And will he be replacing Saga?

 

Oh ye of little ambition.

 

should have gone for Rooney.

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Rating only 5.

'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive."

 

Well done Rupert.

A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ?

And will he be replacing Saga?

 

Oh ye of little ambition.

 

If I'm reading it right he only has 13 mins on the pitch and came on when his team were 2-0 up. Can't really read too much into that eh?

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I think it does matter massively who signed him.

 

If it was Poortvliet who set the ball rolling, then you can assume Wotte will be serving up similar fare.

 

If it's someone else signing the players, then who is it and who are they accountable to?

 

One of our problems this season has been a poor transfer record with a number of players who have been brought in, either under performing or not even contributing.

 

Now if that was down to Poortvliet, then maybe that problem has gone away following his departure, but if it was not his say, then surely nothing has changed, when perhaps it should have.

 

Personally, I think Poortvliet didn't have an awful lot of say in who came in and that had a big impact on our poor record this season, so to me it does matter.

 

So are you saying Rupert is buying all the players? Answer carefully...

 

'cos if you are, and if anyone else is, that rubbishes the accusations that RL "knows nothing" about football... And that'd be awfully strange, considering he's bagged us a footballer that 90% of this board hasn't heard of.

 

Oh, and Denneboom? Good. Allegedly.

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So are you saying Rupert is buying all the players? Answer carefully...

 

'cos if you are, and if anyone else is, that rubbishes the accusations that RL "knows nothing" about football... And that'd be awfully strange, considering he's bagged us a footballer that 90% of this board hasn't heard of.

 

Oh, and Denneboom? Good. Allegedly.

 

I'm not sure who is involved in buying the players, hence why I was asking the question.

 

I worry that Lowe has more of an involvement than merely negotiating terms, I worry that Van Der Waals has an input and yet we know nothing about him, I worry about who else is advising who and who has the final decision.

 

Our policy to date this season has been poor, but I don't know who was responsible. I think Poortvliet going is a positive (sadly negated by the appointment of Wotte), but if Poortvliet was not the main mover and shaker with regards transfer targets, then his removal will not solve that particular problem.

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FC Twente is the Mark Wotte connection.

Jeroen Wotte uefa and fifa registered football agent....Enschede (FC Twenty) also place of birth and former home of Mark Wotte. Connection to Wotte family in football? and to FC Twenty?

 

Player any good, probably not...injured and not regular nowadays.. Ruperts adviser selection?

 

Good for Saints if he ever comes..? Doubtful.

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Rating only 5.

'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive."

 

Well done Rupert.

A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ?

And will he be replacing Saga?

 

Oh ye of little ambition.

 

Very good point. And he's 28. Still I suppose that's a start, at least he's an experienced ****e player instead of a young ****e player.

 

Still... lets give him a chance.

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Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e and worry about who signed him

 

fact is I dont care who signed him as long as he can do a job for us.

 

Incidently the fact we have signed him would suggest we are not as deep in the **** financially as we are made out to be, unless this week we see the sales of Surman , lallana and davis to pay the debts and afford to pay off some of our debts.

 

Did anyone notice it was forcast who was in gaol for saints against upjest fc.

 

where was Davies House hunting by any chance?

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Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either?

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Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e

 

I don't think I've said he was sht as that would be rather presumptious. In fact I think I've said he looks liek the big lump that we need in this division (and I certainly hope and pray he is).

 

I was merely questioning who/how/why we identify and select players, because it has been a major problem for me this season in that what little money we may have has been used poorly.

 

You and others may be OK with the concept that others bring the players in and the Coach merely coaches them but there is another train of thought that says this undermines the manager and has not worked to date.

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Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e and worry about who signed him

 

fact is I dont care who signed him as long as he can do a job for us.

 

Incidently the fact we have signed him would suggest we are not as deep in the **** financially as we are made out to be, unless this week we see the sales of Surman , lallana and davis to pay the debts and afford to pay off some of our debts.

 

Did anyone notice it was forcast who was in gaol for saints against upjest fc.

 

where was Davies House hunting by any chance?

 

What if he can't? Would you worry then? Thing is it's already too late by then because the money has already been spent. Look at Delgado.

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Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either?

 

Its the siege mentality we all have now....we have had so much ****e to contend with this season especially with our loanees that its the norm to expect them to be crap.

When was the last time we had anything good happen here.....the last game of last season for me and that was then ripped apart in favour of a joke experiment.

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At this stage we should be at least signing players who are fit and in partuclar match fit.

 

You miss the possible thought that we have signed many unfit players who then struggle.

Just usual that if this lad has not played regularly for some time he will need more reserve games and about six weeks to get up to speed...If he is any good...no matter if he is dutch or double dutch to me...Our scouts Rupert and the beast in Holland regularly watching this player...thought not and probably no one else...Like most of our rubbish signings, NO proper research...

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One size looks ok we will see over the next 2/3 games...and thats from the experts..But I am told he looks reasonable....So a long shot from Dutch memory was a gamble that may come off....Most if not all the other gambles...12/13 have on the whole proved rubbish and not fit for purpose.....Director of Football and his beast not up to it.

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Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either?

 

looks a good signing, and this guy is from a better team?

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Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either?

 

Wotte NOT good though and should NEVER be a First/coach/manager at the Saints.....NOT good enough.

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Um

 

I agree you didnt say he was ****e but others intimated that.

 

We do not know if it is a permanent signing a lowe or even a swop. Perhaps Saga or Mcgoldrick are going in the opposite direction.

 

Given that it would appear that the signing was either agreed today with registration with the FA taking place tomorrow. I would suggest it has nothing to do with JP more to do with Wotte.

 

If it was wotte then one would could conclude that he is the head coach for the time being perhaps to the end of the season or until such time as a

 

Leon gets his way and gets rid of the dutch connection.

or A new investor (Highly unlikley) takesover and instals his own people

 

or more than likely the fans turn on him in such a vile manner that he will be forced to retreat back to holland like his predecessor.

 

Only speculating;)

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