Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 That's actually a half decent player! He's big and strong (but not that good with his head) and very very fast. Good signing IMHO although we'll have to wait and see how he gets on in England. Not perhaps a great goalscorer but he's played on the wing quite a bit as well. Like Babbel ??
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 i could not care less who signed him..or who signs anyone..as long as they are good enough I could not care if osama bin laden signed him for us Really?
Scudamore Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 (edited) Who is Ben James Fleming? *edit - it said he was a homo before* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano_Denneboom He can head a ball...which is nice... http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Denneboom&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#q=Denneboom&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=&start=10 http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=Denneboom&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=#q=Denneboom&hl=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=&start=30 Edited 25 January, 2009 by Scudamore
Saint Martini Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Like Babbel ?? No, he's not a German rightback. He is a bit like Babel though, better ballcontrol though and his shooting is not as hard.
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Nah he would have signed him for Arseanl if he was any good! Well from what I saw this afternoon,Arsenal's strike force must be hiding out in the same Waziristan cave.They were lamentable, just how they're 5th in the Prem I couldn't say.
Window Cleaner Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 No, he's not a German rightback. He is a bit like Babel though, better ballcontrol though and his shooting is not as hard. Oh right 1 b too many.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 My I be the first ......... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pYb8Wm6-QfA Copyright: Chapel End Charlie 2009 .
Saints67 Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Came off the bench today for FC Twente http://www.skysports.com/football/match_facts/0,19762,11065_3023729,00.html
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 . I agree a better manager may have spent more wisely but it didn't happen. And that's all I was getting at, in that we did have some choices regarding who we brought in. They were not massive choices and they were most definitley limited by finances, but there were choices nonetheless. And it looks as though we both agree that on balance the wrong choices were made. What might be up for grabs though is how responsible Jan was for spending that money, because I fear on too many occasions other peoples choices and input came into play.
Saint Baz Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 FC Twenty have now signed Nikita Rukavytsya. This should now mean that we are one step closer to signing Denneboom. COYR!! http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/index.php%3Faction%3Dn%26id%3D69641%26etitel%3DczozMzoiRGVubmVib29tIG9wIHdlZyBuYWFyIFNvdXRoYW1wdG9uIjs%3D&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddenneboom%2Bsouthampton%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7HPEB
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 We seem to have dispensed with having managers - we now have head coaches. Jan was the head coach. Wotte is the head coach. If Jan and Wotte don't choose the players who is advising Lowe on who we bring in?
70's Mike Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 We seem to have dispensed with having managers - we now have head coaches. Jan was the head coach. Wotte is the head coach. If Jan and Wotte don't choose the players who is advising Lowe on who we bring in? same as always HIS MIRROR
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 same as always HIS MIRROR But surely Lowe would've learnt his lesson after Delgado?
70's Mike Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 But surely Lowe would've learnt his lesson after Delgado? YOU really do not want my answer to that, Lowe learn from his mistakes are not words that are used in the same sentence
PaulSaint Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 But surely Lowe would've learnt his lesson after Delgado? Are you saying that Denneboom only has one knee too?
NickG Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Came off the bench today for FC Twente http://www.skysports.com/football/match_facts/0,19762,11065_3023729,00.html perhaps we loaned him back to save on wages?
Wes Tender Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Throughout his career, he's mostly been a 1 in five scorer, except for a short spell of 1 in 4 goals. Not exactly setting the world alight. But who knows, he might gel with Saganowski or McGoldrick and surprise everybody. But I doubt it.
Mole Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Are you saying that Denneboom only has one knee too? I'm not sure, the only conclusion that i can draw is that Rupert has a thing for big black men.
eelpie Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Came off the bench today for FC Twente http://www.skysports.com/football/match_facts/0,19762,11065_3023729,00.html Rating only 5. 'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive." Well done Rupert. A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ? And will he be replacing Saga? Oh ye of little ambition.
eelpie Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 We seem to have dispensed with having managers - we now have head coaches. Jan was the head coach. Wotte is the head coach. If Jan and Wotte don't choose the players who is advising Lowe on who we bring in? Waals?
NickG Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Rating only 5. 'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive." Well done Rupert. A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ? And will he be replacing Saga? Oh ye of little ambition. should have gone for Rooney.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 just heard apparently from one of our dutch fans that we will be signing Romano Denneboom - striker from Twente - McClaren's team, announced on dutch tv. Will he be better than Stern John/Gregorz Rasiak ??? Answer is probably no.
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Rating only 5. 'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive." Well done Rupert. A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ? And will he be replacing Saga? Oh ye of little ambition. If I'm reading it right he only has 13 mins on the pitch and came on when his team were 2-0 up. Can't really read too much into that eh?
stuey Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Will he be better than Stern John/Gregorz Rasiak ??? Answer is probably no. Will he be cheaper? Answer is definately yes.
saintwarwick Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Will he be cheaper? Answer is definately yes. Beat me to it
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 I'm not sure, the only conclusion that i can draw is that Rupert has a thing for big black men. No,no,no!!!He has a thing for YES men...
Saint Martini Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Will he be better than Stern John/Gregorz Rasiak ??? Answer is probably no. The answer is quite possibly, this is actually not such a bad signing. And if we're bringing up Delgado again we might bring up Crouch as well.
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 lol at all the people writing Denneboom off already. Probably the same who criticised Crouch, Marsden, WGS's appointment etc...
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 lol at all the people writing Denneboom off already. Probably the same who criticised Crouch, Marsden, WGS's appointment etc... And Poortvliet's;)
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 I think it does matter massively who signed him. If it was Poortvliet who set the ball rolling, then you can assume Wotte will be serving up similar fare. If it's someone else signing the players, then who is it and who are they accountable to? One of our problems this season has been a poor transfer record with a number of players who have been brought in, either under performing or not even contributing. Now if that was down to Poortvliet, then maybe that problem has gone away following his departure, but if it was not his say, then surely nothing has changed, when perhaps it should have. Personally, I think Poortvliet didn't have an awful lot of say in who came in and that had a big impact on our poor record this season, so to me it does matter. So are you saying Rupert is buying all the players? Answer carefully... 'cos if you are, and if anyone else is, that rubbishes the accusations that RL "knows nothing" about football... And that'd be awfully strange, considering he's bagged us a footballer that 90% of this board hasn't heard of. Oh, and Denneboom? Good. Allegedly.
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 And Poortvliet's;) You'll be fronting that reactionary hate mob!
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 You'll be fronting that reactionary hate mob! Reactionary??? I was questioning Poortvliet's suitability from day one (surekly you remember that;))
Crab Lungs Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Reactionary??? I was questioning Poortvliet's suitability from day one (surekly you remember that;)) Piffle. Only joking... pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease, don't drag up that thread again!!!
saintwarwick Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 The answer is quite possibly, this is actually not such a bad signing. And if we're bringing up Delgado again we might bring up Crouch as well. You can't do that, it will be classed as a positive
Gordon Mockles Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 I bet he's sh1t. It's a prerequisite of Lowe's revolutionary scouting network!
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 So are you saying Rupert is buying all the players? Answer carefully... 'cos if you are, and if anyone else is, that rubbishes the accusations that RL "knows nothing" about football... And that'd be awfully strange, considering he's bagged us a footballer that 90% of this board hasn't heard of. Oh, and Denneboom? Good. Allegedly. I'm not sure who is involved in buying the players, hence why I was asking the question. I worry that Lowe has more of an involvement than merely negotiating terms, I worry that Van Der Waals has an input and yet we know nothing about him, I worry about who else is advising who and who has the final decision. Our policy to date this season has been poor, but I don't know who was responsible. I think Poortvliet going is a positive (sadly negated by the appointment of Wotte), but if Poortvliet was not the main mover and shaker with regards transfer targets, then his removal will not solve that particular problem.
ottery st mary Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 FC Twente is the Mark Wotte connection. Jeroen Wotte uefa and fifa registered football agent....Enschede (FC Twenty) also place of birth and former home of Mark Wotte. Connection to Wotte family in football? and to FC Twenty? Player any good, probably not...injured and not regular nowadays.. Ruperts adviser selection? Good for Saints if he ever comes..? Doubtful.
SaintRobbie Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Rating only 5. 'Below average -Some faults, nothing overtly impressive." Well done Rupert. A suitable replacement for not good enough Rasiak, Stern John, Dyer etc etc ? And will he be replacing Saga? Oh ye of little ambition. Very good point. And he's 28. Still I suppose that's a start, at least he's an experienced ****e player instead of a young ****e player. Still... lets give him a chance.
Viking Warrior Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e and worry about who signed him fact is I dont care who signed him as long as he can do a job for us. Incidently the fact we have signed him would suggest we are not as deep in the **** financially as we are made out to be, unless this week we see the sales of Surman , lallana and davis to pay the debts and afford to pay off some of our debts. Did anyone notice it was forcast who was in gaol for saints against upjest fc. where was Davies House hunting by any chance?
Saint Martini Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either?
um pahars Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e I don't think I've said he was sht as that would be rather presumptious. In fact I think I've said he looks liek the big lump that we need in this division (and I certainly hope and pray he is). I was merely questioning who/how/why we identify and select players, because it has been a major problem for me this season in that what little money we may have has been used poorly. You and others may be OK with the concept that others bring the players in and the Coach merely coaches them but there is another train of thought that says this undermines the manager and has not worked to date.
hypochondriac Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ah well do I go with the likes as um pahars and co and say he ****e and worry about who signed him fact is I dont care who signed him as long as he can do a job for us. Incidently the fact we have signed him would suggest we are not as deep in the **** financially as we are made out to be, unless this week we see the sales of Surman , lallana and davis to pay the debts and afford to pay off some of our debts. Did anyone notice it was forcast who was in gaol for saints against upjest fc. where was Davies House hunting by any chance? What if he can't? Would you worry then? Thing is it's already too late by then because the money has already been spent. Look at Delgado.
Give it to Ron Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either? Its the siege mentality we all have now....we have had so much ****e to contend with this season especially with our loanees that its the norm to expect them to be crap. When was the last time we had anything good happen here.....the last game of last season for me and that was then ripped apart in favour of a joke experiment.
ottery st mary Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 At this stage we should be at least signing players who are fit and in partuclar match fit. You miss the possible thought that we have signed many unfit players who then struggle. Just usual that if this lad has not played regularly for some time he will need more reserve games and about six weeks to get up to speed...If he is any good...no matter if he is dutch or double dutch to me...Our scouts Rupert and the beast in Holland regularly watching this player...thought not and probably no one else...Like most of our rubbish signings, NO proper research...
ottery st mary Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 One size looks ok we will see over the next 2/3 games...and thats from the experts..But I am told he looks reasonable....So a long shot from Dutch memory was a gamble that may come off....Most if not all the other gambles...12/13 have on the whole proved rubbish and not fit for purpose.....Director of Football and his beast not up to it.
NickG Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either? looks a good signing, and this guy is from a better team?
ottery st mary Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Ofcourse, because Wotte played for Twente as a youthplayer he is now signing players from them. it has nothing to do with him being a manager in the Netherlands for nearly two decades and everyone knowing pretty much everyone in that small world. Besides, Denneboom might have had one or two injuries but he is hardly injury prone and I don't get why you're (and many others) are already saying he's probably no good. Was Saeijs no good either? Wotte NOT good though and should NEVER be a First/coach/manager at the Saints.....NOT good enough.
Viking Warrior Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Um I agree you didnt say he was ****e but others intimated that. We do not know if it is a permanent signing a lowe or even a swop. Perhaps Saga or Mcgoldrick are going in the opposite direction. Given that it would appear that the signing was either agreed today with registration with the FA taking place tomorrow. I would suggest it has nothing to do with JP more to do with Wotte. If it was wotte then one would could conclude that he is the head coach for the time being perhaps to the end of the season or until such time as a Leon gets his way and gets rid of the dutch connection. or A new investor (Highly unlikley) takesover and instals his own people or more than likely the fans turn on him in such a vile manner that he will be forced to retreat back to holland like his predecessor. Only speculating;)
Viking Warrior Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 Hypo I get the geest of what your saying. but at this stage we do not have a clue on how much he has cost, he may have come on a free transfer or a bosman etc etc Lets wait and see before we pass judgement
saint_ed Posted 25 January, 2009 Posted 25 January, 2009 I would remind people that Pericard also fitted that 'brick sh!t house' role, but he was awful. However I am happy to confirm that Denneboom is better than Pericard.
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