eelpie Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 For our mens teams, I mean. I will start with: 1. Agility and accuracy in front of goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 2. The desire to play an attacking game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 (edited) (3) Stop faking an injury and get up again. (4) Don’t back into a defender like Kane does (5) More back heel goals (6) No moaning to the officials (7) I don’t have a 7 Edited 27 July, 2022 by Pilchards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 If we're comparing to Saints: A manager whose substitutions serve to have a positive impact on the team? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 5 minutes ago, for_heaven's_Saint said: If we're comparing to Saints: A manager whose substitutions serve to have a positive impact on the team? Or is it to have options on the bench with greater ability? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: (3) Stop faking an injury and get up again. (4) Don’t back into a defender like Kane does (5) More back heel goals (6) No moaning to the officials (7) I don’t have a 7 There's been tons of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 I think it's more the England men that could learn a lesson, specifically Southgate. THAT'S what you do when you go 1-0 up in a high stakes game, you be brave, take it to them and believe in yourself. Not cower away for the next 89 minutes showing every bit of mental weakness you can. What the women did to Sweden last night, there's no reason why the men couldn't have done that to Italy a year or so ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 (edited) Blimey, I thought the act of jumping on the bandwagon of poneytail football, watching one game, then using supposed observations of that game as a stick to beat mens football up with, was confined to a load of Karens on social media. Edited 27 July, 2022 by Marsdinho 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: I think it's more the England men that could learn a lesson, specifically Southgate. THAT'S what you do when you go 1-0 up in a high stakes game, you be brave, take it to them and believe in yourself. Not cower away for the next 89 minutes showing every bit of mental weakness you can. What the women did to Sweden last night, there's no reason why the men couldn't have done that to Italy a year or so ago. Southgate can't do brave, he's too worried about who it will offend. Nice enough guy but he's so poor tactically and i highly doubt we'll win anything under him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 1 minute ago, Marsdinho said: Blimey, I thought act the jumping on the bandwagon of poneytail football, watching one game, then using supposed observations of that game as a stick to beat mens football up with, was confined to a load of Karens on social media. The hyperbole over the Sweden win / england ladies is just getting silly. The BBC were reporting that backheel goal as "one of the best goals you'll ever see". Its not. The keeper got nutmegged by a slow shot at her near post. In general the keeper had an absolute howler and if it had been Macca i dread to think what would have been written about it in the match thread. For equal comparison, the BBC described Lingard's back heel/flick vs burnley a few years ago as, "clever" and its a far superior goal that actually beat the keeper rather than the keeper having a mare. I'm pleased their doing well, and its good for the women's game in this country etc. But the coverage is just cringe at this point. As is any comparison between the men's and women's games. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 The BBC (well, Ian Wright) were on about the lack of opportunity for girls to play football.....girls at my daughter's school (and other friends from all over Hampshire, so it's not isolated) have loads of options to play in after school clubs etc. Some is mixed, some is same sex.....it's becomingly really popular among young girls, but clearly it'll take a long time to get anywhere near the men's game. Certainly no barriers to playing that i can see, admittedly this is a Hampshire school perspective. I enjoyed the game last night (and i've been a bit sniffy about it i hate to admit) and the girls certainly look like they've been well drilled. As it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 We shall not be taking any lessons from a team with such lack of diversity as England ladies. do they even kneel before the games? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Do they even kneel before the games? The women's cricket team did before playing South Africa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 I think they should play with a smaller and lighter ball. It's like watching men play football with a basketball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 52 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: We shall not be taking any lessons from a team with such lack of diversity as England ladies. do they even kneel before the games? Both knees, ironclad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 For me I was impressed that every player was comfortable on the ball and controlled it instantly. Shame the men cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 Must say my wife and I enjoyed the game immensely so well done to the Lionesse's for the great entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 I can’t really tell if this thread is being ironic or not but the answer is nothing. Literally nothing. The lionesses would struggle to even touch the ball outside of their own penalty area against Saints. You know how Moi suddenly found decent movement, positional play, passing and shooting in Scotland? It’s that times one hundred. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 27 July, 2022 Author Share Posted 27 July, 2022 4 hours ago, eelpie said: For our mens teams, I mean. I will start with: 1. Agility and accuracy in front of goal I'm going to add 2. The ability to turn very quickly on the spot before shooting accurately. (Not our forwards' best skills) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: We shall not be taking any lessons from a team with such lack of diversity as England ladies. do they even kneel before the games? If the best footballers are white with blonde ponytails, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnia Cherie Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 12 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I can’t really tell if this thread is being ironic or not but the answer is nothing. Literally nothing. The lionesses would struggle to even touch the ball outside of their own penalty area against Saints. You know how Moi suddenly found decent movement, positional play, passing and shooting in Scotland? It’s that times one hundred. I'll have what you're having. Did you watch the Saints at the end of last season? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sarnia Cherie said: I'll have what you're having. Did you watch the Saints at the end of last season? 😂 Playing against a team of comparable quality to Sweden Women? No, I didn’t, and nor did anyone else. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 5 hours ago, Pilchards said: (3) Stop faking an injury and get up again No more caps for Grealish then. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 It's a completely different sport isn't it? SO cant really learn any lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 27 July, 2022 Share Posted 27 July, 2022 Nobody is pretending the quality is anywhere near the men's game. That isn't the point, but in the context of the competition they are playing, it was a good performance. I would agree the big take away is the fact that they shot frequently, and quickly. That back heel was utter filth, she nutmegged two players by hitting it so quickly. They were expecting her to turn, and were undone by her speed of thought. I don't care what the perceived standard is, that made me jump and shout. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 12 hours ago, macca155 said: Nobody is pretending the quality is anywhere near the men's game. That isn't the point, but in the context of the competition they are playing, it was a good performance. I would agree the big take away is the fact that they shot frequently, and quickly. That back heel was utter filth, she nutmegged two players by hitting it so quickly. They were expecting her to turn, and were undone by her speed of thought. I don't care what the perceived standard is, that made me jump and shout. 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 16 hours ago, OldNick said: For me I was impressed that every player was comfortable on the ball and controlled it instantly. Shame the men cant Really, talking generally the first touch has been very loose at times. Touch and control in the mens game is now immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurj Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 Why can't men, identifying as a lady play for England ladies team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 4 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: Really, talking generally the first touch has been very loose at times. Touch and control in the mens game is now immense. I wasnt meaning every team, I was talking about the England ladies. As for 'immense' in the mens' game! You do watch Saints lol I nearly have a seizure when it gets passed to our keeper and then to our defenders, by the time the midfield et it and have eventually controlled the ball it is then back to our defender who passes to the keeper and again the nerves are shredded agian, when it does ever get to a forward the ball is mis controlled so a defender can sweep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 Has Lord Duckhunter not found this thread yet ? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorchester Saint Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 They’re all a bit too white for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 2 hours ago, OldNick said: I wasnt meaning every team, I was talking about the England ladies. As for 'immense' in the mens' game! You do watch Saints lol I nearly have a seizure when it gets passed to our keeper and then to our defenders, by the time the midfield et it and have eventually controlled the ball it is then back to our defender who passes to the keeper and again the nerves are shredded agian, when it does ever get to a forward the ball is mis controlled so a defender can sweep it up I still think with the England team it's no where near the mens teams yet. Male players now are pulling balls down effortlessly, taking balls on the run, controlling the ball on most parts of their body. Apart from fitnesss its the thing that has improved most in the game since I've been watching football. I play with a load of younsters and their touch is so much better then the lads of my age, the ball us coming down with snow on and they can kill it with their touch. Still we can tackle harder and take more pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 28 July, 2022 Share Posted 28 July, 2022 Lesson no.1 - Only play women's teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 July, 2022 Share Posted 29 July, 2022 With the amount of talk of the women's game about time it fucks off to its own sub-forum no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 29 July, 2022 Share Posted 29 July, 2022 17 hours ago, Fan The Flames said: I still think with the England team it's no where near the mens teams yet. Male players now are pulling balls down effortlessly, taking balls on the run, controlling the ball on most parts of their body. Apart from fitnesss its the thing that has improved most in the game since I've been watching football. I play with a load of younsters and their touch is so much better then the lads of my age, the ball us coming down with snow on and they can kill it with their touch. Still we can tackle harder and take more pain. I always have thought that kids should not play competitive football untii they are 12 or older. They should just learn to control and pass the ball with one touch football. Alan Ball was very much of this mindset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 29 July, 2022 Share Posted 29 July, 2022 1 hour ago, OldNick said: I always have thought that kids should not play competitive football untii they are 12 or older. They should just learn to control and pass the ball with one touch football. Alan Ball was very much of this mindset That side of things can be neglected, especially with the not so good kids, who would really benefit from it. The kid of a site manager on one of my jobs did futsal for a numbet of years before playing normal football, they spent hours just rolling the ball around the foot and doing controlling skills. He's got in to Spurs academy just as the job finished, it would be interesting to know how he's progressed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 31 July, 2022 Share Posted 31 July, 2022 One thing that’s been mentioned a lot is the fact that the same 11 started all the games, but I also noticed that 9 of those 11 started in the game at st Mary’s last September. I think squad chemistry and knowing each other’s games is really key. the mens team at international level always changes, when maybe a more settled 11 with just a few players coming in and out of the squad would be best same with saints, we really need to go into this season with a settled defence and stick with it, let them get used to playing together and build confidence in each other’s games 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 1 August, 2022 Share Posted 1 August, 2022 Players need to say ‘I am buzzing my head off’ more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 1 August, 2022 Share Posted 1 August, 2022 I would like to see players gate-crashing and doing the conga through Ralph's press conferences, not every game but perhaps after a particularly heavy defeat, plus more ponytails and nail varnish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 1 August, 2022 Share Posted 1 August, 2022 50 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said: I would like to see players gate-crashing and doing the conga through Ralph's press conferences, not every game but perhaps after a particularly heavy defeat, plus more ponytails and nail varnish. You know it would breakdown into an unco-ordinated mess, with most of them trying to take the conga sideways and back, as Ralph's automatisms have taught them.🙂 More ponytails and varnish would be fine, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERMUDASAINT Posted 1 August, 2022 Share Posted 1 August, 2022 The men's need what the women had, LUCK!!! You can't beat lucky.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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