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Pompey v Saints B Team Hampshire Senior Cup

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Seems like Morgan could be a real star (I think he is still 16), as well as Ballard, Doyle and Dibling. That is, if they are given a chance.  I'd rather see a couple of these lads on the bench over Walcott (who Ralph has threatened will get game time), Moi and other failures.

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

So we’ve improved significantly since Lancashire got sent off?

I don’t get what the message is with Lancashire. ‘Train hard lads and show loyalty, and if you fail like me you could be the next me!’

Do any other clubs do it?

I mean, put him on the coaching staff if that’s what you want to get across. Having him as a mainstay in the team is absolutely weird.

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1 minute ago, The Kraken said:

I don’t get what the message is with Lancashire. ‘Train hard lads and show loyalty, and if you fail like me you could be the next me!’

Do any other clubs do it?

I mean, put him on the coaching staff if that’s what you want to get across. Having him as a mainstay in the team is absolutely weird.

Liverpool do it with Jay Spearing and United with Tom Huddlestone, obviously both were better than Lancashire

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2 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I don’t get what the message is with Lancashire. ‘Train hard lads and show loyalty, and if you fail like me you could be the next me!’

Do any other clubs do it?

I mean, put him on the coaching staff if that’s what you want to get across. Having him as a mainstay in the team is absolutely weird.

There does seem to be one of these sorts at most PL clubs these days. Liverpool had Jay Spearing playing for them in the Papa John's Trophy last week, Man United have Tom Huddlestone!

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1 minute ago, stevegrant said:

There does seem to be one of these sorts at most PL clubs these days. Liverpool had Jay Spearing playing for them in the Papa John's Trophy last week, Man United have Tom Huddlestone!

Do Brighton still do it?  They started it, IIRC.

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Just now, stevegrant said:

There does seem to be one of these sorts at most PL clubs these days. Liverpool had Jay Spearing playing for them in the Papa John's Trophy last week, Man United have Tom Huddlestone!

Ah yeah, I saw Tom Huddlestone had signed for Man United in some sort of mentor capacity, it’s really odd. 

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3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Ah yeah, I saw Tom Huddlestone had signed for Man United in some sort of mentor capacity, it’s really odd. 

We should make Walcott one of our B squad players now really, he'd be perfect, lovely guy , mentor, can keep the lads entertained with stories of the cups he won when travelling to away games on the bus 

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2 minutes ago, ecurnew02 said:

I’d imagine there are treated as player-coaches and as way to phase the, into coaches + an extra player that is probably around the level of U21 play 

Yep. Theoretically the club is getting a player who is still fit and determined enough to play B team football, be the encouraging experienced voice in the dressing room who players can bounce things off, leads by example, etc, and is looking to move into coaching when he does retire. For most other clubs, though, it's someone who's still at least good enough to play at that B team level... :uhoh: :lol: :mcinnes:

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2 minutes ago, stevegrant said:

Yep. Theoretically the club is getting a player who is still fit and determined enough to play B team football, be the encouraging experienced voice in the dressing room who players can bounce things off, leads by example, etc, and is looking to move into coaching when he does retire. For most other clubs, though, it's someone who's still at least good enough to play at that B team level... :uhoh: :lol: :mcinnes:

This is the biggest issue.  He blocks a centre-back coming through.

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3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

This is the biggest issue.  He blocks a centre-back coming through.

Do we have many other centre backs in that age group not getting game time? Didn't see much of Lawrence in the game on Saturday as he was sent off after 27 mins but he looked quite handy 

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3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

This is the biggest issue.  He blocks a centre-back coming through.

In Dave Horseman's defence, perhaps there isn't another centre-back deemed ready to play at that level yet.

Dynel Simeu has been getting rave reviews at Tranmere (I saw him on Saturday and he looks very solid at League Two level, ideally he'd have got a step up from last season's loan at Carlisle) but there's no point keeping someone like him in the sort-of-competitive B team environment when he is definitely good enough to be playing regular first team football.

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10 minutes ago, JRM said:

We should make Walcott one of our B squad players now really, he'd be perfect, lovely guy , mentor, can keep the lads entertained with stories of the cups he won when travelling to away games on the bus 

That’s a very idea. He’s perfect for that role. Need to find something for him to do.

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3 minutes ago, stevegrant said:

In Dave Horseman's defence, perhaps there isn't another centre-back deemed ready to play at that level yet.

Dynel Simeu has been getting rave reviews at Tranmere (I saw him on Saturday and he looks very solid at League Two level, ideally he'd have got a step up from last season's loan at Carlisle) but there's no point keeping someone like him in the sort-of-competitive B team environment when he is definitely good enough to be playing regular first team football.

Will Tizzard the obvious one. Plus we have (when everyone is fit) 6 centre-backs in the 18’s 

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Am I allowed to say "just back from the game" anymore? But anyway, I am.

We actually played pretty well, put some good passing moves together and created a fair few chances.

Their experience and strength was the key though and they won a lot of the one on one battles around the pitch. 2 of their goals were very lucky, the second was from a horrendous shot that ended up at the foot of their striker and the 3rd was a huge deflection.

We had a great chance to go 4-3 and it would have been very interesting if that had gone in.

Morgan was very good, an excellent finish for the first and a lovely header for the second. Ballard did well, the new lad from Spurs was tricky but gave possession away cheaply at times. Dibling came on but barely touched the ball.

Had to laugh out loud at their fans properly celebrating the first goal, they were bouncing down the aisles and all sorts which is a bit weird for a Hampshire cup game against a team full of kids.

Some Saints stickers dotted around the away end and a few kids managed to decorate the toilets.

 

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