badgerx16 Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 22 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: You vote for an MP to be elected to parliament. If the circumstances around that change, then they have a by-election. You don’t vote for a prime minister, so legally speaking it’s up to the Tories to appoint whoever they like, as often as they like. Obviously that doesn’t go down well with voters, but legally I don’t think there’s anything which would trigger an election. Currently, as far as I can work out there are 3 Legal options to force a GE; 1) A Vote of Confidence in the Government - not going to happen as Tory turkeys won't vote for Christmas. 2) A 2/3rds majority of the H of C vote for it under Parliamentary rules - again turkeys and Christmas. 3) The King decides to dissolve Parliament in the national interest. Technically possible, but almost certain to bring down the Monarchy.
The Kraken Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 Dan Hodges is more often than not a tory lickspittle so perhaps some truth in these. 1
whelk Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 The fat bullshitter has now drifted 3/1. Similar to Truss in that would be comedy value watching the useless cunts eat themselves but at least Sunak is an adult. As someone who worked in a pharmacy (so I heard) wonder what the thinks about the Health Sec dishing out prescription drugs to her mates? 2
CB Fry Posted 22 October, 2022 Author Posted 22 October, 2022 In the next 24 hours they'll be a load of shit coming out that he never intended to run, it was just his supporters getting over excited. 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: 2) A 2/3rds majority of the H of C vote for it under Parliamentary rules - again turkeys and Christmas. I thought that was part of the fixed term Parliament act which has now been repealed.
farawaysaint Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 25 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I thought that was part of the fixed term Parliament act which has now been repealed. You’re right, the PM has to request it now.
badgerx16 Posted 22 October, 2022 Posted 22 October, 2022 34 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I thought that was part of the fixed term Parliament act which has now been repealed. 7 minutes ago, farawaysaint said: You’re right, the PM has to request it now. Looks like we have to pin our hopes on Chaz then.
Wade Garrett Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Well it seems that Boris doesn’t have his 100 backers. Surely not another lie from Pinocchio Johnson?
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 I don't think he's claimed he has yet, has he?
Tamesaint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 27 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: I don't think he's claimed he has yet, has he? His supporters have Eg Heaton Harris this morning.
rallyboy Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 I find it difficult to believe that Boris or his supporters would try and mislead people. He's got all the big decisions right! Apart from the one to fly back from his permanent holidays. 2 2
buctootim Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tamesaint said: His supporters have Eg Heaton Harris this morning. And his supporters wouldnt have claimed that without his specific prompting to do so
egg Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Rishi's hat is formally in the ring. I truly hope the others step aside and leave to him. 2
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 1 hour ago, Tamesaint said: His supporters have Eg Heaton Harris this morning. So Boris himself hasn't lied, yet (on this topic anyway).
whelk Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Steve Baker has been pretty clear. Refreshing to hear talking of integrity amongst all these mealy mouthed idiots
saint1977 Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 1 hour ago, egg said: Rishi's hat is formally in the ring. I truly hope the others step aside and leave to him. He’s the Sean Dyche option. Not exciting but what’s needed for 2 years before the Tories exit office. Nor is Starmer exciting but we’ve had enough drama over the last few years, I’d happily have a few years where businesses and households can plan for the future without ideological experiments that cost us as the electorate tens of thousands and create dubious influence for think tanks funded by funny money. Tories will still getting a thumping at the next GE but Rishi will mean they have a road back at least, even if it’s a long and winding one. Hague was right that Boris will kill them stone dead and Mordaunt is Truss just better presented and a bit more of a human being there. Whilst I can’t stand Frost, his description of Penny’s performance and lack of attention to detail during the Brexit negotiations added to what Platell and KCC have said is worrying. Already been there with Boris with his lack of focus and failed. On the Kuennsberg show this morning you had IDS talking the usual nonsense about deregulation and productivity (Iain - try actually understanding books and theories, especially about how they work/don’t work in the real world, before spouting them parrot fashion like a sixth former of average intelligence before exams) and Mordaunt talking drivel about Truss’s ideas. IDS also irritatingly kept on about what was best for the party - um, you are in power you stupid prick..it’s about governing for all of the national interest! 7
buctootim Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 5 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said: So Boris himself hasn't lied, yet (on this topic anyway). That kind of acceptance of talking out of botrh sides of your mouth is what got us here in the first place. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 2 hours ago, buctootim said: That kind of acceptance of talking out of botrh sides of your mouth is what got us here in the first place. Mental. The original claim was that Boris has stated he has the backing of 100 MPs. I've pointed out he hasn't actually said that and in response received some whataboutery that someone else has said that for him. So, so many things that Boris HAS lied about without the need to make more up.
SotonianWill Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Lots of people “confirming” Boris is on the ballot. tomorrow is going to be interesting 1
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SotonianWill said: Lots of people “confirming” Boris is on the ballot. tomorrow is going to be interesting Edited 23 October, 2022 by The Kraken 1 1
CB Fry Posted 23 October, 2022 Author Posted 23 October, 2022 Predictable. But the best available result for the country. 1
badgerx16 Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 So he couldn't reach 100 supporters, despite what he claims. Hopefully JRM is now consigned to the back benches until he loses his seat at the next GE. 4
farawaysaint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Oh good, now I can start moaning about Rishi. 1
SotonianWill Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Well now we know Sunak will be PM. A PM who not even the tory members want to vote for, how is that a party united? Honestly for British politics, the tories need to call a general election and recreate the party (even start a new party thats actually right wing) and come back as opposition stronger.
whelk Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 7 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: So he couldn't reach 100 supporters, despite what he claims. Hopefully JRM is now consigned to the back benches until he loses his seat at the next GE. Telegraph just tweeted Zahawi article backing him. He is now top of list of loathsome bastard. Spare a thought for Dorries tonight. 3
badgerx16 Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 3 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: A PM who not even the tory members want to vote for, how is that a party united? Mega lolz........ Problem is we are all suffering for this shambolic shower of shite.
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 1 minute ago, whelk said: Telegraph just tweeted Zahawi article backing him. He is now top of list of loathsome bastard. Spare a thought for Dorries tonight. Her hangover tomorrow is going to be absolutely monumental. 1
badgerx16 Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 1 minute ago, whelk said: Spare a thought for Dorries tonight. Why, has she run out of Gordon's ? 1
ecuk268 Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 9 hours ago, whelk said: Steve Baker has been pretty clear. Refreshing to hear talking of integrity amongst all these mealy mouthed idiots I still blame him for those 2 goals we conceded against Pompey. 1
The Kraken Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Beautiful from the corrupt and utter cunt Nadhim Zahawi. At 9pm tonight. Just a few short minutes later. 2 1
whelk Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 1 minute ago, The Kraken said: Beautiful from the corrupt and utter cunt Nadhim Zahawi. At 9pm tonight. Just a few short minutes later. He also tweeted ‘As Chancellor….’ He had 2 days at it! 3
Sheaf Saint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 19 minutes ago, whelk said: Telegraph just tweeted Zahawi article backing him. He is now top of list of loathsome bastard. Spare a thought for Dorries tonight. The very same Nadhim Zahawi who stabbed Boris in the chest hours after being appointed chancellor in July and has now flipped again and declared his support for Sunak. He's got the integrity of a snake with an uncontrollable crack habit. 3
SotonianWill Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Beautiful from the corrupt and utter cunt Nadhim Zahawi. At 9pm tonight. Just a few short minutes later. jesus christ I wonder whether he's Ralph In or Out? 2 1
SotonianWill Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Just now, Sheaf Saint said: The very same Nadhim Zahawi who stabbed Boris in the chest hours after being appointed chancellor in July and has now flipped again and declared his support for Sunak. He's got the integrity of a snake with an uncontrollable crack habit. Snake Zahawi supports snake Sunak. No suprise 1
Winnersaint Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Given the number of kids he’s fathered rather surprised that Johnson has pulled out. 2 6
whelk Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 23 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: The very same Nadhim Zahawi who stabbed Boris in the chest hours after being appointed chancellor in July and has now flipped again and declared his support for Sunak. He's got the integrity of a snake with an uncontrollable crack habit. 2
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 October, 2022 Posted 23 October, 2022 Some say the local off-licenses have run out of drink and some dopey mare is walking about the streets of Westminster in a state. #PrayForNadine 🤣 1 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 24 October, 2022 Posted 24 October, 2022 9 hours ago, badgerx16 said: So he couldn't reach 100 supporters, despite what he claims. Hopefully JRM is now consigned to the back benches until he loses his seat at the next GE. Unlikely. It's probably where most of the Conservative members live....
tdmickey3 Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 Musical chairs at the tory party of bullshitters, a new cabinet...jobs for my mates... Do people seriously expect it to be any better than it was with the fat liar or the clueless blonde ? My expectation is that it will be the same old shit dressed up to be different A General Election is very much needed 2
Weston Super Saint Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Musical chairs at the tory party of bullshitters, a new cabinet...jobs for my mates... Do people seriously expect it to be any better than it was with the fat liar or the clueless blonde ? My expectation is that it will be the same old shit dressed up to be different A General Election is very much needed Yep. But that's based on the presumption that it can't get worse... As for 'jobs for my mates', not sure why that's a surprise. It's certainly not a tory party exclusive!
tdmickey3 Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Yep. But that's based on the presumption that it can't get worse... As for 'jobs for my mates', not sure why that's a surprise. It's certainly not a tory party exclusive! Who knows how it will go but i not holding out hope for improvement with this shower Its not a surprise but it should be those best suited to the role not just those that supported you... Rees Mogg has stepped down, which is good news though Edited 25 October, 2022 by tdmickey3 1
Barsiem Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 18 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Yep. But that's based on the presumption that it can't get worse... As for 'jobs for my mates', not sure why that's a surprise. It's certainly not a tory party exclusive! Tbh "jobs for the mates" was one of the biggest mistakes Truss made. In politics you should give your biggest threats big jobs in cabinet, if only to keep them and their supporters in line. Blair did this with Brown, and if he hadn't he almost certainly wouldn't have been pm as long as he was 2
badgerx16 Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 30 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Rees Mogg has stepped down, which is good news though He has also backtracked on his description of Sunak being a Socialist.
badgerx16 Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 16 minutes ago, Barsiem said: Tbh "jobs for the mates" was one of the biggest mistakes Truss made. In politics you should give your biggest threats big jobs in cabinet, if only to keep them and their supporters in line. Blair did this with Brown, and if he hadn't he almost certainly wouldn't have been pm as long as he was Blair and Brown had an agreement regarding when Blair would step aside for Brown to become leader- Blair didn't stick to it.
Barsiem Posted 25 October, 2022 Posted 25 October, 2022 3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said: Blair and Brown had an agreement regarding when Blair would step aside for Brown to become leader- Blair didn't stick to it. I'm aware. My point is that he kept him close in government to avoid mutiny within Labour ranks. Brown on the backbenches would have been a major headache for him
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