Tyler Dibling

[egg]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Let’s not forget this guy went to Chelsea for a month at the age of 15/16, hated it and asked to come back to the club.

Big six spotlight isn’t for everyone. Hes clearly a bit more grounded that day Jimmy Jay Morgan.

I'm not sure whether it was the environment at Chelsea that he didn't like, or the realisation that he may play football here rather than have to go on loan to Belgium or wherever if he stayed there. Regardless, the decision to come back has worked our brilliantly for the lad and us. 

Jimmy Jay seems to be doing well at Chelsea to be fair, and I still can't blame the lad for going given where the club were at the time and the money thrown at him. 

Who's the kid who went to Brighton and ain't done anything? 

Meghoma will do well at Brentford and may feature today apparently. 

Edited September 21 by egg

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

I'm not sure whether it was the environment at Chelsea that he didn't like, or the realisation that he may play football here rather than have to go on loan to Belgium or wherever if he stayed there. Regardless, the decision to come back has worked our brilliantly for the lad and us. 

Jimmy Jay seems to be doing well at Chelsea to be fair, and I still can't blame the lad for going given where the club were at the time and the money thrown at him. 

Who's the kid who went to Brighton and ain't done anything? 

Meghoma will do well at Brentford and may feature today apparently. 

I think Meghoma will end up being the one that the club will regret. Obviously we don't know goes on behind the scenes, but was surprising that he wasn't integrated into the team more in pre-season. Could we have not bothered with Taylor and given Meghoma more of a chance? I know KWP staying made things even more difficult, but maybe in hindsight signing Taylor was an unnecessary move.

[david in sweden]

In a team that has played below par in most games so far,   Dibling has stood out as a star in the making whilst rarely playing more than 60 minutes

(with exception of the Cardiff Cup game), yet without scoring a goal.  His performances have naturally attracted attention from "bigger names" 

(although I had to laugh at the mention  of an approach... from Crystal Palace ?) ...and those other names are inevitably in the top 6 Prem. clubs  

The reality is that moves of this nature seldom benefit  either player, or the selling club. 

 

1) the player himself may get a little game time after the move, or a few sub. apps. before its noted he's not good enough to replace the very expensive

international who normally plays in that role, and he will soon disappear to the bench....when they realise that he is still a slowly-developing U21, and

he joins the other lads who normally play at that level.  In time, with luck ..and avoiding injuries, the next manager of that club will either re-instate him

or look to get him off the payroll  in order to squander another multi-million misfit from abroad.  (Bale Walcott, Alex-Ox, Shaw did survive their moves)

 

2) the selling club pocket a goodly sum, but will squander much of it on a youngster (from another continent) in the vain hopes of replacing him.

This is often the first signs of disaster as this manager promptly ignores the success the player showed at his mother club, and insists on playing him

in different role, and in another formation and he fails miserably because of the language / cultural challenges that the player has ...off the field.

(Those of you who can recall our recent history can fill in names of your own here).

 

3) The buying club has now successfully "emasculated" the selling club's chances of success / survival by removing their best / most talented

player and doing so by paying.. (for them) a relatively small fee.   (for the consequences now re-read no.2 ) 

 

So what should the young player do to further his career?.   Firstly, keep up the standard they have shown so far, and train for 90 minute games.

Sign a better contract, make sure you play regularly and stay put for a year or two and keep improving.  Either your club will improve their position 

or, are still fighting their way out of the drop zone, they will get an offer they can't refuse and you will get the big move you dream of. (re-read 1) 

 

Tyler may have learned some useful lessons with his short sojourn at Chelsea, and where he got lost in the crowd of other young hopefuls dreaming

of " the big time".  Loyalty is not a word to be uttered in footballing circles nowadays, but a few ( a very few like ...Paine, Channon and MLT, and then

JWP for almost 20 years ), enjoyed life in Hampshire and being  " the big fish in our little stadium ". 

Tyler is still a young man, but the decisions he makes in the next few years can make ....or break his career. 

. 

Edited September 21 by david in sweden

[egg]

32 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I think Meghoma will end up being the one that the club will regret. Obviously we don't know goes on behind the scenes, but was surprising that he wasn't integrated into the team more in pre-season. Could we have not bothered with Taylor and given Meghoma more of a chance? I know KWP staying made things even more difficult, but maybe in hindsight signing Taylor was an unnecessary move.

Yep, he's got enormous talent. For me the mystery is they perseverance with Larios. For me Meghoma has much more of chance in English football. Taylor I get to be fair. He's a PL player (just) and I think he'll play if KWP goes in January. It's the back up to Taylor on that situation that becomes an issue for me. 

[Badger]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Yep, he's got enormous talent. For me the mystery is they perseverance with Larios. For me Meghoma has much more of chance in English football. Taylor I get to be fair. He's a PL player (just) and I think he'll play if KWP goes in January. It's the back up to Taylor on that situation that becomes an issue for me. 

Perhaps Wellington is the intended back up if he doesn’t end up at Goztepe.

Not that Wellington can be described as a ‘shoe in’ , but will probably be in contention. 

[Saint NL]

Well taken first goal and a MOTM performance. 

Well done lad.

[pingpong]

He's really doing well, starting to escape dwayne's shadow even?

[aintforever]

Best player on the pitch today by a mile.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Give him a new contract asap, he’s got real talent 

[S-Clarke]

A few years ago we'd be able to enjoy one of 'our own' at this level for at least a season, but I reckon we'll find it hard to ignore big bids in January if he carries on like this. Especially as we're likely to be well adrift and all but gone by that point.

[Saint Matty 76]

Him and Fernandes are both excellent talents.

A shame but I worry that this year will be all we get to see of both.

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Him and Fernandes are both excellent talents.

A shame but I worry that this year will be all we get to see of both.

I don't think it's a worry as such, more of an acceptance. They're here for this season tops, no more than that. 

It's a shame we didn't get ourselves a Fernandes or Dibling as a CF, it all seems a bit pointless without one. (how many years have we said that for)

[saintant]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I don't think it's a worry as such, more of an acceptance. They're here for this season tops, no more than that. 

It's a shame we didn't get ourselves a Fernandes or Dibling as a CF, it all seems a bit pointless without one. (how many years have we said that for)

I wonder if Dibling can play centre forward. I recall he scored 3 goals against Newcastle at St James park for the B Team and they were all from running through the middle.

[HarvSFC]

13 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

Him and Fernandes are both excellent talents.

A shame but I worry that this year will be all we get to see of both.

Same as Lavia.

You just know Chelsea have got a sell on clause for a month's work as well, which is annoying. Something must benefit them for them to let us have him back.

 

[ErwinK1961]

Hopefully one of the top 4 buy him and loan him back, deciding a season playing regularly in the championship would do him good.

 

[ErwinK1961]

Probably a wasted endeavour, but whilst he’s here let’s get him a song.

Needs work; 

‘Ohh Tyler Diblings magic, he doesn’t need shin pads 

He went and tried out Chelsea, came back and said fuck that

He scores goals with his left foot, and dribbles with his right

And when he plays in red and white, we’ll sing this song all night’

 

I’ll get my coat.

[darren2]

Can't see him wanting to stay unless we come with a better song than the recycled "one of our own" song. He deserves better.

[pingpong]

When I saw you for the first time

(First time)

My knees began to quiver

(Quiver)

And I got a funny feeling

(Feeling)

In my kidneys and my liver

(Digestive system, baby)

 

My hands they started shakin'

(Shakin')

My heart began a-thumpin'

(Boom, boom, boom)

My breakfast left my body

(Huey, huey, huey)

Now, darlin', tell me something

[Chorus]

weve got tyler dibling

(dibling)

dibling

Weve got tyler dibling

(Dibling)

(To the tune of tongue tied, obviously)

[qwertyell]

23 hours ago, ErwinK1961 said:

Probably a wasted endeavour, but whilst he’s here let’s get him a song.

Needs work; 

‘Ohh Tyler Diblings magic, he doesn’t need shin pads 

He went and tried out Chelsea, came back and said fuck that

He scores goals with his left foot, and dribbles with his right

And when he plays in red and white, we’ll sing this song all night’

 

I’ll get my coat.

Bit of Rod Stewart perhaps?

 

Tyler Dibling

Tyler Dibling

Down the right wing

Or number ten

Tiny shinpads

He's our future

Til he buggers

Off again.

[skintsaint]

Made Garth Crooks Troy Deeney's team of the week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpv24kk3lpro

 

[BARCELONASAINT]

Don't know if it has been mentioned anywhere else I can't be bothered to scroll. I have it on pretty good authority Dibling has been offered a new contract but his agent is using Man United's very strong interest in him as a levering tool. Hopefully Dibling's experience at Chelsea will work in our favour and he will sign a bumper contract here.

[egg]

8 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

Don't know if it has been mentioned anywhere else I can't be bothered to scroll. I have it on pretty good authority Dibling has been offered a new contract but his agent is using Man United's very strong interest in him as a levering tool. Hopefully Dibling's experience at Chelsea will work in our favour and he will sign a bumper contract here.

Not seen that, but you can't blame the agent using the interest as leverage. If we end up chucking the lad much more than we want to, it's still good business if we can tie him down to a new deal, and ideally get a chunky release clause in there.

I think he'll sign, but on the understanding that we won't stand in his way if a big club comes in or we get relegated. 

[Turkish]

On 21/09/2024 at 18:41, S-Clarke said:

A few years ago we'd be able to enjoy one of 'our own' at this level for at least a season, but I reckon we'll find it hard to ignore big bids in January if he carries on like this. Especially as we're likely to be well adrift and all but gone by that point.

i dont reckon we'll sell him in January but fully expect him to leave in the summer regardless of what league we are in. SR are a playing trading company, their eyes will light up at £40m or so clear profit. The wonderful world of soccerball.

Edited September 23 by Turkish

[Chewy]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

i dont reckon we'll sell him in January but fully expect him to leave in the summer regardless of what league we are in. SR are a playing trading company, their eyes will light up at £40m or so clear profit. The wonderful world of soccerball.

It’ll be way north of £40m. Not a criticism (can’t help where you live) but watch him live and you’ll understand. Kind of like the first time you saw VVD. Within 45 minutes you just know. 
If we go down he’ll leave this summer and there’ll be a bidding war; if we stay up we might squeeze another season but we need to enjoy him while we can. Unless they change the P&S rules by then, £50+m of pure profit means we don’t have a choice but to sell him at some stage I’m afraid.

Bat sh1t mental rules but the unfortunate reality 

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

31 minutes ago, Chewy said:

£50+m of pure profit means we don’t have a choice but to sell him at some stage I’m afraid.

Assuming Chelsea stuck a hefty sell-on as part of the deal allowing him to return to St Mary's means we'd need to be looking at well over £50m to make that kind of pure profit. But if he keeps doing what he's doing then I think some of the moneybag clubs wouldn't scoff at those kind of figures.

Prefer to keep him of course.

[CB Fry]

11 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Assuming Chelsea stuck a hefty sell-on as part of the deal allowing him to return to St Mary's means we'd need to be looking at well over £50m to make that kind of pure profit. But if he keeps doing what he's doing then I think some of the moneybag clubs wouldn't scoff at those kind of figures.

Prefer to keep him of course.

There was no deal, Chelsea did not sell him to us, there is no sell on.

He signed professionally for us.

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

There was no deal, Chelsea did not sell him to us, there is no sell on.

He signed professionally for us.

That's handy then.

[CB Fry]

Just now, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

That's handy then.

Pure profit, but let's hope we stay up and he stays next season first.

[Saint NL]

10 hours ago, skintsaint said:

Made Garth Crooks Troy Deeney's team of the week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cpv24kk3lpro

 

He mentions that someone will sign him in January. We aren't allowed nice things 😢

[sfc4prem]

1 minute ago, Saint NL said:

He mentions that someone will sign him in January. We aren't allowed nice things 😢

We absolutely aren't allowed nice things. We're little old Southampton. 

As a former CEO said, we're lucky to be in the PL at all, being a club of our size. We should be grateful that we have a chance to play on this stage!

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

We absolutely aren't allowed nice things. We're little old Southampton. 

As a former CEO said, we're lucky to be in the PL at all, being a club of our size. We should be grateful that we have a chance to play on this stage!

I wake up every morning and just say "thank you" it's incredible to be playing these clubs. Who else is having the time of their life just being in the same league as some of most famous clubs in the world? Cant wait to get the Bournemouth game done so we can be playing two great clubs.

[hypochondriac]

20 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

We absolutely aren't allowed nice things. We're little old Southampton. 

As a former CEO said, we're lucky to be in the PL at all, being a club of our size. We should be grateful that we have a chance to play on this stage!

Could be worse. We could be someone shit like Peterborough. Saints took their best player for peanuts and he can't even get on our bench. 

[ErwinK1961]

28 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

He mentions that someone will sign him in January. We aren't allowed nice things 😢

Crikey, the oracle that is Troy Deeney has spoken, it must be true.

[hypochondriac]

Selling Dibling for 40-50 million in the summer if we got relegated would probably mean we wouldn't have to sell anyone else we didn't want to. From the club's perspective that's a bit of a no brainer. 

[HarvSFC]

Lavia, at a similar, or same age went for £50m after one good season in the Premier League, which was also affected by injuries and our relegation. Solanke had one good season in the Premier League (His highest scoring in the top flight prior to the last one was 6). He still didn't hit 20 goals and he cost £65m. Also 9 years older.

We should be looking at big, big money for Dibling if he continues on this trajectory. It is a shame this is how we look at football these days, but then we only got half a season out of young Walcott, a season out of Bale, a season out of Oxlade-Chamberlain and two seasons out of Shaw.

These elite academy talents have never stuck around for long.

[david in sweden]

22 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Could be worse. We could be someone shit like Peterborough. Saints took their best player for peanuts and he can't even get on our bench. 

the fee...3 million...was a big deal for Posh, but the player is still young (21)...and hasn't played above L1 . .except in one League Cup for us. 

Is it such a surprise he's not on bench for Prem. games.?     Wood-Gordon has played alongside THB for England's U21 side and has a better pedigree.

[Miltonaggro]

22 hours ago, sfc4prem said:

We absolutely aren't allowed nice things. We're little old Southampton. 

As a former CEO said, we're lucky to be in the PL at all, being a club of our size. We should be grateful that we have a chance to play on this stage!

 

[hypochondriac]

30 minutes ago, david in sweden said:

the fee...3 million...was a big deal for Posh, but the player is still young (21)...and hasn't played above L1 . .except in one League Cup for us. 

Is it such a surprise he's not on bench for Prem. games.?     Wood-Gordon has played alongside THB for England's U21 side and has a better pedigree.

I didn't say it was? Simply saying that although we are a small fish in the prem we are comparatively a rather large football league fish who is vastly bigger than the majority of the other teams In the pyramid. 

[hypochondriac]

On 23/09/2024 at 19:23, CB Fry said:

There was no deal, Chelsea did not sell him to us, there is no sell on.

He signed professionally for us.

And thank fuck for that. If he does go soon then although it's shit news, it could all have been very different if he'd decided to stay at Chelsea and we've have essentially nothing to show for developing him. It's gutting to lose him so early but the piles of dough will soften the blow somewhat. 

[Nordic Saint]

A song for Tyler Dibling:  Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn) by Bob Dylan:

Come all without

Come all within

You'll not see nothing like Tyler Dibling

Edited September 24 by Nordic Saint

[Steve Cadiz]

1 minute ago, Nordic Saint said:

A song for Ryan Dibling:  Quinn the Eskimo (The Mighty Quinn) by Bob Dylan:

Come all without

Come all within

You'll not see nothing like Ryan Dibling

Or Tyler Dibling 

 

[Nordic Saint]

8 minutes ago, Steve Cadiz said:

Or Tyler Dibling 

 

Oops.  I knew I should have stuck with Mighty. Thanks, I'll correct that. Anyway, it's not as if anyone's going to sing it.

I've noticed that songs about Saints players posted at night always look silly the following morning. I've managed to do it in record time.

Edited September 24 by Nordic Saint

[CB Fry]

Tyler Dibling

Tyler Dibling 

Scores again

For SFC

Tyler Dibling 

Tyler Dibling 

And we know he 

Hates Pompey 

 

 

 

(We Are Sailing, if it isn't obvious)

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

7 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Tyler Dibling

Tyler Dibling 

Scores again

For SFC

Tyler Dibling 

Tyler Dibling 

And we know he 

Hates Pompey 

 

 

 

(We Are Sailing, if it isn't obvious)

Tyler Dibling

Tyler Dibling 

Scores again for

SFC

Tyler Dibling 

Tyler Dibling 

We'll sell him back soon

to Chelsea 

[jemanson]

On 21/09/2024 at 13:45, Badger said:

Perhaps Wellington is the intended back up if he doesn’t end up at Goztepe.

Not that Wellington can be described as a ‘shoe in’ , but will probably be in contention. 

Maybe more boot than shoe?

 

 

 

I'll get me coat ...

[Football Special]

Think he's a bit unlucky to be in England u19 squad still and not promoted to u20 or u21s, also u19 play 3 games in international break, seems a bit much for someone featuring regularly at Premier league level 

[david in sweden]

Tyler Dibling withdrew from the England U19( ?) squad ..." due to injury".  Frankly I'm surprised that he's survived injury free so far, (as his reputation

has caught the attention of numerous Prem. clubs)- whilst getting regular " ankle taps " when waltzing through almost every defence he's come up against. 

His injury is hopefully slight, as no-one else seems to have the ability to run on goal for us (as he seemingly does every game), but the injury may also be

in part-" mental."    A move up from the slower-paced U21 level takes time to adjust to, and where " crude fouling " is an exception rather that the rule.

Tyler has already seen that no defender will leave him alone for long, and is anticipating those inevitable challenges before he gets near the penalty box.

 

He is brave and eager to attack, but along with that comes the knowledge that, in the current " Russball formation" he is often... a one-man attack.

We can hope that the match-free weekend has allowed him to recover physically and mentally, but our reliance on him will sooner or later begin to weigh

on his mind and create unwanted stress.  It's obvious that Tyler's enthusiasm knows no bounds but where he has only finished one 90 minute game 

one wonders what RM's " Plan B " will be if  Dibling is likely to be out for a longer period of time ?.

 

I am recalling the time when the young Raheem Sterling  was " a must-be"  in the England squad and showing up in every international, but the England

manager of the day  ( Roy ?) ..began resting him and made the knowing comment that after half-a-dozen good games his impact on the team had began 

to wane on the youngster's body and mental approach.   It will be interesting to see if Tyler is" fit enough "  to start the next game, and how he performs. 

[Whitey Grandad]

3 hours ago, david in sweden said:

Tyler Dibling withdrew from the England U19( ?) squad ..." due to injury".  Frankly I'm surprised that he's survived injury free so far, (as his reputation

has caught the attention of numerous Prem. clubs)- whilst getting regular " ankle taps " when waltzing through almost every defence he's come up against. 

His injury is hopefully slight, as no-one else seems to have the ability to run on goal for us (as he seemingly does every game), but the injury may also be

in part-" mental."    A move up from the slower-paced U21 level takes time to adjust to, and where " crude fouling " is an exception rather that the rule.

Tyler has already seen that no defender will leave him alone for long, and is anticipating those inevitable challenges before he gets near the penalty box.

 

He is brave and eager to attack, but along with that comes the knowledge that, in the current " Russball formation" he is often... a one-man attack.

We can hope that the match-free weekend has allowed him to recover physically and mentally, but our reliance on him will sooner or later begin to weigh

on his mind and create unwanted stress.  It's obvious that Tyler's enthusiasm knows no bounds but where he has only finished one 90 minute game 

one wonders what RM's " Plan B " will be if  Dibling is likely to be out for a longer period of time ?.

 

I am recalling the time when the young Raheem Sterling  was " a must-be"  in the England squad and showing up in every international, but the England

manager of the day  ( Roy ?) ..began resting him and made the knowing comment that after half-a-dozen good games his impact on the team had began 

to wane on the youngster's body and mental approach.   It will be interesting to see if Tyler is" fit enough "  to start the next game, and how he performs. 

Proper shin pads would help.

[Bad Wolf]

49 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Proper shin pads would help.

It's the in thing now a days for the littluns.

[Whitey Grandad]

17 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

It's the in thing now a days for the littluns.

Then it should be stamped out. And it will be. Literally.

Constant battering of the shins damages the periosteum and leads to long term problems. Shin pads don’t have to be the sort that we old un’s remember from our childhood. There are plenty of lightweight designs that offer good protection without being restrictive.