hypochondriac Posted March 26 Posted March 26 9 minutes ago, NorthLondonSFC said: I agree with what you have said but pretty sure he has a year extension in his contract as well - making it 2 years. I reckon we will get 45 - 50M for him. 50 million would be excellent business given that it's pure profit in terms of FFP. That will go some way to compensate for the drop in revenue. If we did get 50 million would that be higher than the FFP profit we generated during the last relegation summer? I suppose we sold JWP which accounted for a chunk.
Mr Nimbus Posted March 26 Posted March 26 With 2 years on his deal and how we managed to sell after relegation last time, I reckon you're looking at 40 - 60 million. Personally I don't care about his development once he leaves Saints, so a move to City and a year back here on loan would to me be a great outcome 3
BERMUDASAINT Posted March 26 Posted March 26 https://www.teamtalk.com/news/man-utd-transfers-55-million-winger-battle-erupts-amorim-ace-card Fight, fight, fight for the right to buy TD.
Matthew Le God Posted March 26 Posted March 26 35 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: 50 million would be excellent business given that it's pure profit in terms of FFP. Depends on the terms of how we got him back from Chelsea! 1
franniesTache Posted March 26 Posted March 26 If we sell a 19 year old kid who's only played half a season, and only scored 2 goals, no matter how good he potentially is, for north of £60m then all it shows is how completely fucking broken football is and the utter pointlessness of most clubs even trying to compete in the sport 32 1
OldNick Posted March 26 Posted March 26 It seems TD has 2 yeas left on his contract, so he plays a season in the Championship and still only20. Would it then be prudent (in his agents eyes) to then just run his contract down and go for free when he's 21. Will then get a massive signing on fee and set for life, leaving us with nothing. Fanciful perhaps, but still worth considering. Take the money now as we just dont know what will happen in a year
Football Special Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, franniesTache said: If we sell a 19 year old kid who's only played half a season, and only scored 2 goals, no matter how good he potentially is, for north of £60m then all it shows is how completely fucking broken football is and the utter pointlessness of most clubs even trying to compete in the sport I was reading the upcoming club world cup competition gives the winners $125M in prize money, pointless summer tournament in USA, fake football for fake fans , crazy amounts of cash involved, football is definitely broken 4
Midfield_General Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) There’s no way he’s staying to play in the Championship, unfortunately. At this point it’s just a case of how much we can rinse someone for him, and hoping we can get a manager in who is decent enough to be capable of influencing these buffoons to spend it wisely. Edited March 26 by Midfield_General 2
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted March 26 Posted March 26 2 hours ago, franniesTache said: If we sell a 19 year old kid who's only played half a season, and only scored 2 goals, no matter how good he potentially is, for north of £60m then all it shows is how completely fucking broken football is and the utter pointlessness of most clubs even trying to compete in the sport Only £60m? Pah. Make that over £100m........ "Tottenham and Man City must pay over £100m to sign Tyler Dibling" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2025/03/26/southampton-100m-tottenham-man-city-tyler-dibling/ https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/2032676/tottenham-man-city-southampton-tyler-dibling
beatlesaint Posted March 26 Posted March 26 I don’t see a problem quoting £100 million, if it’s true of course. This is business, go in high, know what figure you really want and see what happens when these fat cats start throwing their cash about ! 1
franniesTache Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Football Special said: I was reading the upcoming club world cup competition gives the winners $125M in prize money, pointless summer tournament in USA, fake football for fake fans , crazy amounts of cash involved, football is definitely broken It's just disgusting, the game these days has been completely sold out from under us, it's not about civic pride anymore, it's a product sold to telly clappers with no link to the place "their" team is from, backed by oil countries and billionaires to sell advertising and tat to people who quote stats & pretend to "know ball". 17 minutes ago, beatlesaint said: I don’t see a problem quoting £100 million, if it’s true of course. This is business, go in high, know what figure you really want and see what happens when these fat cats start throwing their cash about ! Of course it's business but that doesn't mean i like it. Do i think SR are doing the "right" thing trying to get the most they can in a corrupt market? Yes Do I think that much money for an unproven young player is fucking mental? Yes Do I think this is just another example that football is catastrophically f*cked as a competition? Yes The points of view aren't mutually exclusive. In fact you can also extend that to the fact that us getting £100m (we won't) for a single player, plus getting parachute payments will massively skew our chances in the championship of promotion. But i also think that's a prime of example of how rotten the game has got. Because we can be an absolutely failure of a club and yet start next season with a massive benefit. Like i say the game is rotten to the core, corrupted by money and greed, and needs to collapse to get better. Personally i'm just glad i saw the game when it was a competition, before it got fashionable and trendy, before money ruined the game and stats ruined the game. Back when it was cheap enough for you and your mates to wander up on a Saturday having decided that day you wanted to go and pay on the gate a sensible amount and know your team actually had a chance against almost any side. 18
Willo of Whiteley Posted March 26 Posted March 26 This £100m fee on his head has no doubt been leaked by the club to effectively deter potential clubs. If clubs are serious, then great; if they aren’t then bugger off. I’m sure they’ll be a middle ground in there somewhere. Let’s be honest we all know that he hasn’t been a £100m player at all in his career. He’s a young player with a lot of learning ahead of him still. You’d hope his little stint at Chelsea, albeit for a month a few years ago, will make him think carefully about his next move. My guess is he’ll stay, maybe an extended contract with some form of clause dependant on if promotion is gained in a years time, or a big club comes in for him.
Saints-1994 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: My guess is he’ll stay, maybe an extended contract with some form of clause dependant on if promotion is gained in a years time, or a big club comes in for him. This is what should happen and is best for all parties. Get him to sign a new deal with a ‘fair’ wage. If rumours are to be believed, we offered a deal relative to what other 18/19 year olds are on - he’s not a normal 19 year old and is clearly better than a lot round him. Agent thinks he warrants more money…compare him to what some of our ‘better players’ are on you’d probably say he’s right…imagine being offered a wage below what your fellow teammates are on when you’re clearly better? Could be where the he felt disrespected line came from before Xmas. New deal, with a clause for x amount if we fail to go up. We get guaranteed money, a decent player. He gets game time and the option we won’t slap a silly fee on him if we stay in the Championship. He won’t start for any decent prem side just yet - needs to develop his off the ball work and final product. Edited March 26 by Saints-1994 3
StrangelyBrown Posted March 26 Posted March 26 No one will be spending £50m+ on a championship player so if we want that sort of fee we'd be better selling now than at the end of next season. I don't know why anyone thinks his value is going to go up with a season in the championship - while logical in reality it just doesn't seem to work like that.
Saints-1994 Posted March 26 Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: No one will be spending £50m+ on a championship player so if we want that sort of fee we'd be better selling now than at the end of next season. I don't know why anyone thinks his value is going to go up with a season in the championship - while logical in reality it just doesn't seem to work like that. Brighton did for Rutter!
Football Special Posted March 26 Posted March 26 1 hour ago, franniesTache said: It's just disgusting, the game these days has been completely sold out from under us, it's not about civic pride anymore, it's a product sold to telly clappers with no link to the place "their" team is from, backed by oil countries and billionaires to sell advertising and tat to people who quote stats & pretend to "know ball". Of course it's business but that doesn't mean i like it. Do i think SR are doing the "right" thing trying to get the most they can in a corrupt market? Yes Do I think that much money for an unproven young player is fucking mental? Yes Do I think this is just another example that football is catastrophically f*cked as a competition? Yes The points of view aren't mutually exclusive. In fact you can also extend that to the fact that us getting £100m (we won't) for a single player, plus getting parachute payments will massively skew our chances in the championship of promotion. But i also think that's a prime of example of how rotten the game has got. Because we can be an absolutely failure of a club and yet start next season with a massive benefit. Like i say the game is rotten to the core, corrupted by money and greed, and needs to collapse to get better. Personally i'm just glad i saw the game when it was a competition, before it got fashionable and trendy, before money ruined the game and stats ruined the game. Back when it was cheap enough for you and your mates to wander up on a Saturday having decided that day you wanted to go and pay on the gate a sensible amount and know your team actually had a chance against almost any side. My sentiments exactly mate, nicely put, old video but reminds me of this 1
sandwichsaint Posted March 26 Posted March 26 21 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: No one will be spending £50m+ on a championship player so if we want that sort of fee we'd be better selling now than at the end of next season. I don't know why anyone thinks his value is going to go up with a season in the championship - while logical in reality it just doesn't )seem to work like that. I've got a promising young player to sell you, he's played a part-season in the PL for the worst team in the history of the PL. Despite looking good in parts he's struggled for consistency and in fact he's only scored two goals. I'd like to sell you one of the standout players in the Championship, he looks stronger and fitter than last season, has scored a dozen goals and has seventeen assists, and is a regular in the England u21 side. Option A we get money to buy (several) players for a promotion side but lose one of our genuinely PL standard players. Option B , we get a season of him in the Championship, if/when we go up we cash in (and swap our crown jewel for the 2020's version of Speedie and Dixon). B for me, but it's not my money.
St. Ciervo Posted March 26 Posted March 26 23 hours ago, skintsaint said: Spurs want Rigg of Sunderland, £37m being banded about - £20m for Dibling is way too low. Fair point. We can sell... we just cannot shop for sh**
pimpin4rizeal Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Props to the club if they really are sticking 100 m price tag on him . Whilst he’s a talented player with high potential I honestly feel That if we stick Adam Armstrong back in his position we will not miss dibling at all next season if armstrongs numbers are similar to last times . Ramsdale on the other hand is not gonna be replaced by sticking bazunu back in championship or not
StrangelyBrown Posted March 27 Posted March 27 11 hours ago, Saints-1994 said: Brighton did for Rutter! No they didn't - it was £40m!
die Mannyschaft Posted March 27 Posted March 27 I think Saints have had a few bids and trying to push price up above £40-£60m. If the get £100m great but Spurs and Newcastle won't pay that. Man U, Chelsea too many players already. But clubs do 9 year contracts and spend cost over financial seasons
Lighthouse Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, die Mannyschaft said: I think Saints have had a few bids and trying to push price up above £40-£60m. If the get £100m great but Spurs and Newcastle won't pay that. Man U, Chelsea too many players already. But clubs do 9 year contracts and spend cost over financial seasons I’d say that’s far more likely than the £100m some are talking about. It puts him right in Lavia and Livramento territory, similar players from when we last went down. 2
whelk Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 18 hours ago, franniesTache said: Because we can be an absolutely failure of a club and yet start next season with a massive benefit. Like i say the game is rotten to the core, corrupted by money and greed, and needs to collapse to get better. If you are referring to parachute payments they are necessary for clubs who had PL budgets but no longer have the income. Widely acknowledged that essential given the gulf in income. Yes, of course does give an advantage but if there was nothing any promoted club would be even more fucked as any potential competing would come with risk of bankruptcy the following season. Edited March 27 by whelk
Midfield_General Posted March 27 Posted March 27 18 hours ago, franniesTache said: Personally i'm just glad i saw the game when it was a competition, before it got fashionable and trendy, before money ruined the game and stats ruined the game. Back when it was cheap enough for you and your mates to wander up on a Saturday having decided that day you wanted to go and pay on the gate a sensible amount and know your team actually had a chance against almost any side. Two words: non-league. I live too far away from Southampton now to get to St Mary's very often, so I go to my local non-league club instead to get my Saturday afternoon fix and it's brilliant. 3pm Saturday kick-offs, turn up and pay on the gate, £10 to get in, £4.50 for a pint you can drink while you stand on the rail by the touchline with your mates, close enough to the pitch to hear the players abusing the ref. Decent quality football and every game is competitive. You don't have the same burning passion for the club of course, but you still get invested in the result. Saints are in my blood and will always be my club but if you just want to watch a game and have a few beers and you miss the traditional football experience then you can't go wrong really. 12
hypochondriac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 28 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Two words: non-league. I live too far away from Southampton now to get to St Mary's very often, so I go to my local non-league club instead to get my Saturday afternoon fix and it's brilliant. 3pm Saturday kick-offs, turn up and pay on the gate, £10 to get in, £4.50 for a pint you can drink while you stand on the rail by the touchline with your mates, close enough to the pitch to hear the players abusing the ref. Decent quality football and every game is competitive. You don't have the same burning passion for the club of course, but you still get invested in the result. Saints are in my blood and will always be my club but if you just want to watch a game and have a few beers and you miss the traditional football experience then you can't go wrong really. Can second this. I went to a havant game last year and it was brilliant. Cheap to get in and get food and I had a chat with the subs bench on 70 minutes. Great value. 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 27 Posted March 27 59 minutes ago, Midfield_General said: Two words: non-league. I live too far away from Southampton now to get to St Mary's very often, so I go to my local non-league club instead to get my Saturday afternoon fix and it's brilliant. 3pm Saturday kick-offs, turn up and pay on the gate, £10 to get in, £4.50 for a pint you can drink while you stand on the rail by the touchline with your mates, close enough to the pitch to hear the players abusing the ref. Decent quality football and every game is competitive. You don't have the same burning passion for the club of course, but you still get invested in the result. Saints are in my blood and will always be my club but if you just want to watch a game and have a few beers and you miss the traditional football experience then you can't go wrong really. I do the same. A short walk away. Meet up with people you know, and meet lots more you'll get to know, in your community. Feel connected in a way the Premier League and clubs dismissive of "legacy" fans have lost. Competitive football, good afternoons out (and closer to away fixtures too, when the urge strikes) and supporting a club that works hard for every penny through lots of volunteers. 1
Midfield_General Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Can second this. I went to a havant game last year and it was brilliant. Cheap to get in and get food and I had a chat with the subs bench on 70 minutes. Great value. Yeah the level of interaction between the fans and the players/ staff is another brilliant thing. We went to an away game and were basically the only away supporters there. We were still in the bar after the game when all our players came in. They recognised us and brought us over to sit and have a drink with them to say thanks for coming out to support them. We were absolutely made up afterwards, it was great. 4
franniesTache Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, whelk said: If you are referring to parachute payments they are necessary for clubs who had PL budgets but no longer have the income. Widely acknowledged that essential given the gulf in income. Yes, of course does give an advantage but if there was nothing any promoted club would be even more fucked as any potential competing would come with risk of bankruptcy the following season. Yes i'm referring to parachute payments, and what you're describing doesn't go against what i said in the slightest. If clubs that go down are financially fucked without them then it just proves how badly broken the game is 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Midfield_General said: Yeah the level of interaction between the fans and the players/ staff is another brilliant thing. We went to an away game and were basically the only away supporters there. We were still in the bar after the game when all our players came in. They recognised us and brought us over to sit and have a drink with them to say thanks for coming out to support them. We were absolutely made up afterwards, it was great. And that works both ways. Our lot were going through a bit of a slump, and came into the bar afterwards. They were a bit sheepish, but got encouragement and support. It made a difference to them. Their first big slump as a side. But we've had the joy of seeing loads over the years. 🙂 The social side is good, as mentioned. But when they bring in loads of sandwiches, having got in too much for hospitality, that's even better. Never mind the eerie silence between club and fans. Not when you go to the same supermarket as the committee members. Being on first name terms and having little chats with pretty much everyone, after a while. And that happens whether you think you want it to or not, and no matter how introverted you are. You're just slowly connected through your community. Fairly new to an area? Take in a few local games and get massive amounts of local history, football knowledge and great stories from the older guys who've been attending for decades. Like a really good episode of Cheers, with some football added. 🙂 So yeah, if for whatever reason, getting to a Saints game isn't on, then fresh air, community, good value and mental health boosts aren't far away. 3
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: And that works both ways. Our lot were going through a bit of a slump, and came into the bar afterwards. They were a bit sheepish, but got encouragement and support. It made a difference to them. Their first big slump as a side. But we've had the joy of seeing loads over the years. 🙂 The social side is good, as mentioned. But when they bring in loads of sandwiches, having got in too much for hospitality, that's even better. Never mind the eerie silence between club and fans. Not when you go to the same supermarket as the committee members. Being on first name terms and having little chats with pretty much everyone, after a while. And that happens whether you think you want it to or not, and no matter how introverted you are. You're just slowly connected through your community. Fairly new to an area? Take in a few local games and get massive amounts of local history, football knowledge and great stories from the older guys who've been attending for decades. Like a really good episode of Cheers, with some football added. 🙂 So yeah, if for whatever reason, getting to a Saints game isn't on, then fresh air, community, good value and mental health boosts aren't far away. Appreciate this is going away from the Tyler Dibling thread but did like reading your views on the merits of going to lower league games. For me, it's no longer the football, so I couldn't necessarily follow a non-league team. I go to Saints for the day out and connecting with son, brother and nephews, so away games are still special and when you see a win like at Ipswich, it's just a bonus. Back to the TD, it looks like my £20-£25m is on the low side given the clubs £100m (hoping for £50m!) price tag, but that's just on old timer not keeping up with today's valuations!
WinglessWonder Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Midfield_General said: Two words: non-league. I live too far away from Southampton now to get to St Mary's very often, so I go to my local non-league club instead to get my Saturday afternoon fix and it's brilliant. 3pm Saturday kick-offs, turn up and pay on the gate, £10 to get in, £4.50 for a pint you can drink while you stand on the rail by the touchline with your mates, close enough to the pitch to hear the players abusing the ref. Decent quality football and every game is competitive. You don't have the same burning passion for the club of course, but you still get invested in the result. Saints are in my blood and will always be my club but if you just want to watch a game and have a few beers and you miss the traditional football experience then you can't go wrong really. Agree 100%! Although I'm a Dorset boy we moved to Fareham a few years ago and I started volunteering as matchday announcer for their home games. It means I get to watch football for free, I have a beer brought up to me at halftime and we generally end up in the bar afterwards with the supporters, staff and players for a couple more beers and an natter about the game. The fact that most of the guys over there are skates makes for a lot of light-hearted ribbing but it's all friendly banter, exactly how it should be! 2
Chez Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, WinglessWonder said: Agree 100%! Although I'm a Dorset boy we moved to Fareham a few years ago and I started volunteering as matchday announcer for their home games. It means I get to watch football for free, I have a beer brought up to me at halftime and we generally end up in the bar afterwards with the supporters, staff and players for a couple more beers and an natter about the game. The fact that most of the guys over there are skates makes for a lot of light-hearted ribbing but it's all friendly banter, exactly how it should be! ...but not all. It's about time you added "I'll be your saint" by Adorable to your half time play list sir. back to Dibling. £100m sounds about right to me. We are talking about one of the best young players here that has proved he can do it in the Prem. Whatever the real figure we'd settle for, at least putting that massive price out there might stop us having to read that Spurs are making a £20m bid. Edited March 27 by Chez 3
Saint Fan CaM Posted March 28 Posted March 28 £100m?! Take it and run! I’ve seen little to suggest the lad is worth half that. Of course he might develop further and improve in 2-3 years, but that’s less likely to happen at Saints, so it’s a big risk to hold on to him. I’ll be blown away if we get anywhere near that fee though. 1
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted March 28 Posted March 28 12 hours ago, Chez said: Whatever the real figure we'd settle for, at least putting that massive price out there might stop us having to read that Spurs are making a £20m bid. *Spread over 5 payments. 2
die Mannyschaft Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Has there been any bids? Can we sell platers before end season or foes paperwork need to be done in July
East Kent Saint Posted March 29 Posted March 29 No , there is going to be 2 windows this year just to confuse the issue ! I suspect Saints will be offered a few dodgy goalkeepers as makeweights in any deal and we will be stunned again 🙂
Challenger Posted March 29 Posted March 29 The amount of dross the club could buy with a potential Dibling sale would be unbelievable. 8
Matthew Le God Posted March 29 Posted March 29 4 hours ago, die Mannyschaft said: Has there been any bids? Can we sell players before end season or does paperwork need to be done in July Transfer window opens on 1st June 2025 1
WinglessWonder Posted March 30 Posted March 30 On 27/03/2025 at 22:55, Chez said: ...but not all. It's about time you added "I'll be your saint" by Adorable to your half time play list sir. back to Dibling. £100m sounds about right to me. We are talking about one of the best young players here that has proved he can do it in the Prem. Whatever the real figure we'd settle for, at least putting that massive price out there might stop us having to read that Spurs are making a £20m bid. I keep threatening to have the walk out to "the saints are coming"! Completely agree re: the valuation if I'm honest. It is essentially a "Hands off" to interested clubs, if they do pay it will be a bonus!
Oisin Posted March 31 Posted March 31 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cz6dwwzn7vdo I doubt he’s off to Spurs
Tommy Mulgrew Posted March 31 Posted March 31 The club’s PRESENT department has been hard at work to talk up Tyler’s value: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4yen2xgrxo
LeBizzier69 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 Substitute appearances don’t get much more half-arsed than his last night. Shame. 3
OldNick Posted April 3 Posted April 3 I just sdont understand his attitude, he seemed to care little but perhpas the pressure has got to him. He so should have helped us by running with the ball but just gave it away
Whitey Grandad Posted April 3 Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, OldNick said: I just sdont understand his attitude, he seemed to care little but perhpas the pressure has got to him. He so should have helped us by running with the ball but just gave it away As Churchill said about the Anzio landings, "I had hoped we were hurling a wildcat into the shore, but all we got was a stranded whale." 1
LeBizzier69 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, OldNick said: I just sdont understand his attitude, he seemed to care little but perhpas the pressure has got to him. He so should have helped us by running with the ball but just gave it away One of the oddest things i've seen from a player in while......KWP busting a gut to get forward, and Dibling just walking 20 yards behind him....no support whatsoever. Bizarre. 3
Whitey Grandad Posted April 3 Posted April 3 8 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: One of the oddest things i've seen from a player in while......KWP busting a gut to get forward, and Dibling just walking 20 yards behind him....no support whatsoever. Bizarre. KWP made some exciting runs. Just a shame that the rest of the team were happy to stroll around watching him. 1
Turkish Posted April 3 Posted April 3 On 29/03/2025 at 18:00, Challenger said: The amount of dross the club will buy with a potential Dibling sale would be unbelievable. fixed it for you
miserableoldgit Posted April 3 Posted April 3 I think that the problems with TD are many. Firstly, he is still a young lad. with all that this brings. I was told by somebody (I have no idea if it is actually true) that he suffers with a degree of Autism, which is why he didn't stay long at Chelsea. Add to this that the whole club/team has been a monumental sh1t-show of the highest order this season, it is perhaps understandable that his developement hasn't been as smooth as it might have been. 1
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