Tyler Dibling

[Bad Wolf]

30 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Then it should be stamped out. And it will be. Literally.

Constant battering of the shins damages the periosteum and leads to long term problems. Shin pads don’t have to be the sort that we old un’s remember from our childhood. There are plenty of lightweight designs that offer good protection without being restrictive.

 

Yes. A very strange  fad. I understand that shorts sizes and collars on shirts come in and out of fashion but this is to do with safety.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Bad Wolf said:

Yes. A very strange  fad. I understand that shorts sizes and collars on shirts come in and out of fashion but this is to do with safety.

Especially since it could lead to the end of a very promising career.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Rumour is a new contract has been signed.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Rumour is a new contract has been signed.

It would be great news, if true. 

He would be really, really wise to stick around - even if we go down imo. Look at Grealish (a similar player), 2 seasons in the championship made him who he is today. 

[bugenhagen]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Rumour is a new contract has been signed.

When I saw the interview with him, it felt like that was either done, or close, to me.

[sfc4prem]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

It would be great news, if true. 

He would be really, really wise to stick around - even if we go down imo. Look at Grealish (a similar player), 2 seasons in the championship made him who he is today. 

Same with Lallana and Schneiderlin. Grew with us when in L1 and Championship. 

 

Without that experience I doubt Adam would've reached the heights he did.

[Kenilworthy]

Didn't have the best of days yesterday, despite a couple of brilliant touches. He didn't seem fully fit and I would have taken him off at halftime

[skintsaint]

3 hours ago, Kenilworthy said:

Didn't have the best of days yesterday

Got fouled a lot without any free kicks given, can affect your game.

[Whitey Grandad]

18 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Got fouled a lot without any free kicks given, can affect your game.

And dived a lot. They weren’t fouls.

[bugenhagen]

27 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

And dived a lot. They weren’t fouls.

Agree, he does seem to end up seeking the freekick a bit much, and not really being fouled. But he will learn, and improve.

[East Kent Saint]

Grealish was the same it took a change of team and being dropped at City before he got the message !

[Football Special]

8 hours ago, Kenilworthy said:

Didn't have the best of days yesterday, despite a couple of brilliant touches. He didn't seem fully fit and I would have taken him off at halftime

He'd dropped out of England u19 squad during international break due to carrying a knock so it's possible he's not quite 100% , still created some good chances, played a lovely ball down the wing with outside of his left boot in first half as well 

[Harry_SFC]

22 minutes ago, Football Special said:

He'd dropped out of England u19 squad during international break due to carrying a knock so it's possible he's not quite 100% , still created some good chances, played a lovely ball down the wing with outside of his left boot in first half as well 

He's a young lad and won't play well every week. The fact we seem to be relying on him this much at his age is extremely concerning. 

[trousers]

 

 

[Turkish]

added a zero onto his transfer fee Rasmus right now

#playertradingclub

 

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[davefizzy14]

Congrats to Tyler, thoroughly deserved 😊

[Badger]

Seems to have gone a bit quiet on talk of a contract renewal

Edited 9 November, 2024 by Badger

[Disco Stu]

Just now, Badger said:

Seems to have gone a bit quiet on talk of a contract renewal

It was just people making stuff up.

[Football Special]

I see he started both games for England u21s , anyone watch? How did he do? 

[Wsaint]

3 hours ago, Football Special said:

I see he started both games for England u21s , anyone watch? How did he do? 

https://x.com/TheSaintCentre/status/1857495415186231756?t=sTF8z4LH29qGdh47N2JpRg&s=19

 

Dibling doing Dibling things.

[maysie]

See MOTD2 waxing lyrical about him today.

Goes in the enjoy him whilst we have him column I think.

[Saint Fan CaM]

24 minutes ago, maysie said:

See MOTD2 waxing lyrical about him today.

Goes in the enjoy him whilst we have him column I think.

Yep. The moment a decent sized wedge of money comes in SR will cash in.

[Saint_clark]

We've seriously fucked up with Dibling. Contract is up end of next season which means we'll sell him in the summer no matter what and honestly would probably be better off trying to get a bit extra for him this January.

We should have been giving him an extension when we got promoted.

[SaintNewForest]

5 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

We've seriously fucked up with Dibling. Contract is up end of next season which means we'll sell him in the summer no matter what and honestly would probably be better off trying to get a bit extra for him this January.

We should have been giving him an extension when we got promoted.

Not quite. I do belive there's a club option for a further year, so effectively he's got a 2027 expiry.

[lambtiss]

Much as I hate the idea of him leaving, it seems a certainty as our manager seems intent on changing nothing as we drift towards relegation. What do people think he will be worth by the end of the season assuming he remains fit and continues his upward path? 

[ChrisPY]

1 hour ago, SaintNewForest said:

Not quite. I do belive there's a club option for a further year, so effectively he's got a 2027 expiry.

‘We’ll extend on your current wage until 2027 and you risk a serious injury ending your career or sign until 2030 on five times that, set yourself and your family up for life and we’ll throw in a reasonable buy out clause for when a move is right for you.’

 

[benjii]

I'm not sure people realise how good he is. The best player we've produced since Bale.

We will get 70m for him.

[Disco Stu]

1 hour ago, lambtiss said:

Much as I hate the idea of him leaving, it seems a certainty as our manager seems intent on changing nothing as we drift towards relegation. What do people think he will be worth by the end of the season assuming he remains fit and continues his upward path? 

As a club with Championship status, we won't get as much as we probably should. Livromento went for about £32m. If there's a bidding war and we play clubs off each other like we did with Lavia, we could see as high as £50m.

Edited 25 November, 2024 by Disco Stu

[OldNick]

17 minutes ago, benjii said:

I'm not sure people realise how good he is. The best player we've produced since Bale.

We will get 70m for him.

I dont think so. He may be a god to us but hard headed football clubs wont. I do wonder if Chelsea put in a clause when he returned back to us

[BarberSaint]

On 25/11/2024 at 15:51, OldNick said:

I dont think so. He may be a god to us but hard headed football clubs wont. I do wonder if Chelsea put in a clause when he returned back to us

 

No. As has been said before and it wasn't like that. 

 

He'll go high with a high sell-on clause if he doesn't go straight to a very good club in which case he'll go higher. Of course, if we stay up he'll stay a bit longer which I think overall would be better for him as he's still only a teenager and all the limelight probably won't suit him - based on what happened at Chelsea.

[Turkish]

On 25/11/2024 at 16:33, benjii said:

I'm not sure people realise how good he is. The best player we've produced since Bale.

We will get 70m for him.

I do I think he is going to the very top, absolute class and head and shoulders above anything else we’ve got at 19 having only played a handful of league games. Classy, rolls Royce of a player 

[Saint86]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

I do I think he is going to the very top, absolute class and head and shoulders above anything else we’ve got at 19 having only played a handful of league games. Classy, rolls Royce of a player 

That's partly because SR have failed to keep any of his peers from that u18s team. A real travesty given we'd finally managed to rebuild the academy after the league 1 and championship years.

[egg]

6 hours ago, Saint86 said:

That's partly because SR have failed to keep any of his peers from that u18s team. A real travesty given we'd finally managed to rebuild the academy after the league 1 and championship years.

Most go because they want to have a chance of playing, ie Meghoma wanted opportunities so went to Brentford, and others just take the cash in the knowledge that they're pretty well set up even if they don't make it. If it's true that SR weren't willing to pay anything like a market rate to keep the good lads, then I agree a lot of blame rests with them. 

Back to Dibling. He's the best player  we've developed for years and will be star. He makes the game look easy and could slot into most top PL teams right now and do well. 

[Mr Nimbus]

He is absolutely brilliant and I honestly believe wouldn't look out of place at any team in the league.

[rallyboy]

Will the first offers come as early as January, and will they be from Liverpool?

 

[SaintNewForest]

2 hours ago, egg said:

Most go because they want to have a chance of playing, ie Meghoma wanted opportunities so went to Brentford, and others just take the cash in the knowledge that they're pretty well set up even if they don't make it. If it's true that SR weren't willing to pay anything like a market rate to keep the good lads, then I agree a lot of blame rests with them. 

Back to Dibling. He's the best player  we've developed for years and will be star. He makes the game look easy and could slot into most top PL teams right now and do well. 

SR slashed the academy wage budget and created a new structure; its' supposedly one of the reasons we lost Alejandro Gomes in the summer, as he was being offered far less than what those in the scholarship year above were. 

SR can go get to fuck; we've lost Doyle, JJM, Dibling (initially) and Gomes on their watch. Ballard I suspect will go the same way, as his development hasn't been managed particularly well either (i know he's had injuries which haven't helped). 

[Saint86]

3 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

SR slashed the academy wage budget and created a new structure; its' supposedly one of the reasons we lost Alejandro Gomes in the summer, as he was being offered far less than what those in the scholarship year above were. 

SR can go get to fuck; we've lost Doyle, JJM, Dibling (initially) and Gomes on their watch. Ballard I suspect will go the same way, as his development hasn't been managed particularly well either (i know he's had injuries which haven't helped). 

Exactly this. Dibling is superb and i'm glad we got to see him play, but we've lost so many others. JJM and Gomes represent huge failures by the club (particularly the latter).

Whats happened with the youth academy on their watch is shocking - its a core characteristic of the football club and part of the fans bond with the team that we will develop and bring though exciting young players. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the club and fans that they do not grasp this - but sadly, they seem more interested in signing players like Wellington (for Goztepe 🙄) than they are in keeping and developing a top top talent like Gomes - and to lose him for peanuts with minimal compensation (as he moved abroad) is doubly poor. Ditto the likes of Meghoma and co - why couldn't we have used the multi club model to develop them rather than losing them on the cheap to replace them with mercenaries that have no loyalty to the club and are on higher wages anyway...

Edited 27 November, 2024 by Saint86

[SaintNewForest]

3 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Exactly this. Dibling is superb and i'm glad we got to see him play, but we've lost so many others. JJM and Gomes represent huge failures by the club (particularly the latter).

Whats happened with the youth academy on their watch is shocking - its a core part of the football club and an expectations from the fans that we will develop and bring though exciting young players. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the club and fans that they do not understand this, but sadly, they're more interested in signing players like Wellington for Goztepe than they are in keeping a top top talent like Gomes - and to lose him for peanuts with minimal compensation (as he moved abroad) is doubly poor.

Don't forget the time when Kraft publically said there wasn't much talent in the academy and they were having to supplement that with players from other clubs ... sure that was a real kick in the teeth to those lads in the academy as well.

[bugenhagen]

5 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

Don't forget the time when Kraft publically said there wasn't much talent in the academy and they were having to supplement that with players from other clubs ... sure that was a real kick in the teeth to those lads in the academy as well.

There should be more than enough things to criticize SR with, no need to make shit up aswell 😀 he spoke about the gap in an age group, just below the first team at the time, not the entire academy...

[S-Clarke]

He's one of those few players you look at, and say, ''Yeah, he's going to the top''. These guys have some sort of aura about them, it's hard to really describe - but Chamberlain, Bale etc had a similar vibe around them. I'd compare Dibling closer to Bale than any player we've produced since. 

Without doubt he's a big money banker for us within the next 18 months, obviously the contract situation will dictate that - so if we can get him signed up before the end of the season, we'll have protected his value tenfold. 

There's nothing to enjoy about this football club these days, but he's a small chink that gets me excited when you see him on the ball or running with the ball. Beats having to put up with Adam Armstrong running into blind allys or Brereton-Diaz tripping over his own feet.

Edited 27 November, 2024 by S-Clarke

[Osvaldorama]

He’ll go to Liverpool and Fernandes will follow Amorim to United imo. Both are absolutely class. 

[Fabrice29]

9 hours ago, SaintNewForest said:

Don't forget the time when Kraft publically said there wasn't much talent in the academy and they were having to supplement that with players from other clubs ... sure that was a real kick in the teeth to those lads in the academy as well.

He didn't say that, so thats the plus side.

[Harry_SFC]

10 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

He’ll go to Liverpool and Fernandes will follow Amorim to United imo. Both are absolutely class. 

It's a shame both are playing for us under such a shite regime. 

[Fabrice29]

1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

It's a shame both are playing for us under such a shite regime. 

This will be unpopular but I'm not convinced either would be playing so regularly under another regime.

[coalman]

11 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

This will be unpopular but I'm not convinced either would be playing so regularly under another regime.

From the minutes he was getting early last season he looked ready for the first team. Maybe not to start but to be getting minutes almost every game. So what did we do? Brought in Brooks and Rothwell on loan and then he didn't get another look in. 

I'd say under a different regime he would have had much more experience already coming into this season and be further along in his development.

[LeBizzier69]

13 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

He's one of those few players you look at, and say, ''Yeah, he's going to the top''. These guys have some sort of aura about them, it's hard to really describe - but Chamberlain, Bale etc had a similar vibe around them. I'd compare Dibling closer to Bale than any player we've produced since. 

Without doubt he's a big money banker for us within the next 18 months, obviously the contract situation will dictate that - so if we can get him signed up before the end of the season, we'll have protected his value tenfold. 

There's nothing to enjoy about this football club these days, but he's a small chink that gets me excited when you see him on the ball or running with the ball. Beats having to put up with Adam Armstrong running into blind allys or Brereton-Diaz tripping over his own feet.

Racist!

Totally agree, he's a gem of a player - can't help but wonder if JJM wishes he hadn't been greedy and gone to Chelsea.....on his £20-30k per week (i suspecy he's on) probably not.

[ally_uk]

Question is how much is he worth ?

[tdmickey3]

18 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Question is how much is he worth ?

Only as much as anyone is willing to pay but I dare say our board will sell him cheap like JWP

[SambaMaverick]

23 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Question is how much is he worth ?

£30-35m I would think, back-loaded with a lot of add-ons and future sale clauses.

Archie Gray went for a similar amount in the summer.

[Osvaldorama]

13 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

This will be unpopular but I'm not convinced either would be playing so regularly under another regime.

Absolute fucking nonsense. Martin has been bad for our academy and young players so far. 
 

He’s lucky that Dibling has forced his way into contention.