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Have Saints set a £55m price tag to prevent any Jan bids? You could get a whole new team from Championship if scouted properly for that money. He's got outstanding talent and we can't win enough games with him so you can't blame him if he gets an offer from Liverpool,  RB Leipzig,  or even Forrest. No point going to Spurs. 

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34 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Have Saints set a £55m price tag to prevent any Jan bids? You could get a whole new team from Championship if scouted properly for that money. He's got outstanding talent and we can't win enough games with him so you can't blame him if he gets an offer from Liverpool,  RB Leipzig,  or even Forrest. No point going to Spurs. 

Spurs: "How about £100k a week?"
die Mannyschaft: "nah, you'll aright thanks."

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I am gonna guess he will go to Atalanta.

Let me revist this in the summer but Juric will probably recommend him to his pal Gasperini, they will play him and they have history to develop players, play the same formation have lots of eng speakers there (lookman etc).

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16 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

I am gonna guess he will go to Atalanta.

Let me revist this in the summer but Juric will probably recommend him to his pal Gasperini, they will play him and they have history to develop players, play the same formation have lots of eng speakers there (lookman etc).

I doubt they be able to beat rival interested clubs on the fee and wages.

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2 hours ago, skintsaint said:

How long left on his contract? Could we loan him out next season on the premise of us getting promoted again.....

Officially expires summer 2026 but the club have the option to extend it by a further year so essentially summer 2027. 

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Being honest now I think he’s way overhyped compared to what he’s actually done for us this season .: he’s a good dribbler but so was others like boufal even sully and got nowhere near this hype. Bar a couple of tap ins he hasn’t really done much of note . Good dribbler but not a lot else atm  if he wasn’t a young English academy kid I could see people moaning about no end product 

not trying to be harsh on him but I don’t feel much affinity to him anyway as he’s not gonna be here long so he gets treated like anyone else 

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He is way overhyped.

I said the same about Matty Fernandes the other week. 

They’re just way better than everyone else we’ve got, it’s a low fucking bar to clear.

It’s no different to Juric, he’s been massively overhyped, he hasn’t done anything of note in his time here. Most would’ve been hounded out already.

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On 23/01/2025 at 16:31, skintsaint said:

How long left on his contract? Could we loan him out next season on the premise of us getting promoted again.....

Need that money.

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He's only 18 and playing in a shit side.  Add in his head turned by agents/other clubs it's no wonder his form has fallen off a cliff.

We shouldn't be relying on an 18 year old (and Fernandes for that matter) but we have the shittiest squad and manager I can ever remember

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didnt pick a leg up today,passionless no effort display if we can get 55 million for him i will drive him wherever for free

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39 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

He is way overhyped.

I said the same about Matty Fernandes the other week. 

They’re just way better than everyone else we’ve got, it’s a low fucking bar to clear.

It’s no different to Juric, he’s been massively overhyped, he hasn’t done anything of note in his time here. Most would’ve been hounded out already.

What a load of crap. Fernandes was unusually poor today but has been a shining light in a sea of shit this season. A proper footballer, and he's only 20. He'll have a good career at this level, as will Dibling.

As for Juric, no-one has hyped him at all, you're making that up. He's had 7 league games in charge ffs. Not sure what you were expecting him to do with a mostly Championship squad, but by all means go ahead and 'hound out' yet another manager.

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Sorry? This season has been utter shit, very few players have done anything useful all bloody season let alone anything of note so now some of you want to turn on an 18 year old kid who has actually had some very decent moments and games. All lads his age have good games then bad games ffs.

To take a pop at him whilst others like Aribo the darling of the Northam with that infernal Spandau Ballet song get away with having as much mobility as a cargo ship stuck in mud is pathetic.

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49 minutes ago, washsaint said:

 but we have the shittiest squad and manager I can ever remember

...bar one.

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11 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

He is way overhyped.

I said the same about Matty Fernandes the other week. 

They’re just way better than everyone else we’ve got, it’s a low fucking bar to clear.

It’s no different to Juric, he’s been massively overhyped, he hasn’t done anything of note in his time here. Most would’ve been hounded out already.

Fuck me you don’t half chat some drivel when you’re not boasting about being such a money making visionary betting on us to lose each week. 

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17 hours ago, beatlesaint said:

Sorry? This season has been utter shit, very few players have done anything useful all bloody season let alone anything of note so now some of you want to turn on an 18 year old kid who has actually had some very decent moments and games. All lads his age have good games then bad games ffs.

To take a pop at him whilst others like Aribo the darling of the Northam with that infernal Spandau Ballet song get away with having as much mobility as a cargo ship stuck in mud is pathetic.

Well the difference is dibling is talked about Like the next big thing, too good for us, top 6 player,next grealish nobody is making aribo out to be world class . It’s not about turning on dibling just pointing out he hasn’t really made much impact despite starting nearly every game. players like rod Wallace mlt Walcott came straight in and made things happen with dibling hes not really affecting matches 

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I am fully expecting TD to be with us next season unless something dramatically changes. From what i have heard from someone who knows the lad and his family he has had two offers on the table, both from German clubs and he is very open to playing in Germany where he feels his style of play is more suited. However he wants to stay for another season at least at Saints. Great news in my opinion if true.

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49 minutes ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I am fully expecting TD to be with us next season unless something dramatically changes. From what i have heard from someone who knows the lad and his family he has had two offers on the table, both from German clubs and he is very open to playing in Germany where he feels his style of play is more suited. However he wants to stay for another season at least at Saints. Great news in my opinion if true.

If we go back up, sure. If we miss promotion then not getting that £40+ million will be a kick in the financial nuts.

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23 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

 Most would’ve been hounded out already.

Probably by you, it would seem.

I have to say I don't think much of your ability to judge players. I've seen players develop at Saints going back 50+ years and you can often see early on that they have something and will make it. Dibling certainly has that something already and he's only 18, in his first season, in the top flight, in a crap team and he's already making things happen.

 

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6 hours ago, BARCELONASAINT said:

I am fully expecting TD to be with us next season unless something dramatically changes. From what i have heard from someone who knows the lad and his family he has had two offers on the table, both from German clubs and he is very open to playing in Germany where he feels his style of play is more suited. However he wants to stay for another season at least at Saints. Great news in my opinion if true.

But he continues to stall on a new deal. 🤔 

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Tyler Dibling and Mateus Fernandes have been the only bright spots in an otherwise miserable season for us Saints fans.

We need to do everything possible to keep them and rebuild the squad around them.

They’re the future of Saints—showing heart, passion, and a real desire to play football.

It’s time to look to our academy and bring through the next wave of hungry, committed players for the Championship next season. They can’t be any worse than the shite we keep fielding. Sack off those who don’t care.

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1 minute ago, ally_uk said:

Tyler Dibling and Mateus Fernandes have been the only bright spots in an otherwise miserable season for us Saints fans.

We need to do everything possible to keep them and rebuild the squad around them.

They’re the future of Saints—showing heart, passion, and a real desire to play football.

It’s time to look to our academy and bring through the next wave of hungry, committed players for the Championship next season. They can’t be any worse than the shite we keep fielding. Sack off those who don’t care.

This is Saints.  We can’t wait to sell players.  They’ll be the first out of the door.

We are a player-trading organisation, not a football club.  Been the same since Kat Liebherr took over.

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3 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Tyler Dibling and Mateus Fernandes have been the only bright spots in an otherwise miserable season for us Saints fans.

We need to do everything possible to keep them and rebuild the squad around them.

They’re the future of Saints—showing heart, passion, and a real desire to play football.

It’s time to look to our academy and bring through the next wave of hungry, committed players for the Championship next season. They can’t be any worse than the shite we keep fielding. Sack off those who don’t care.

Ramsdale also

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Most overrated player  we have ever had he’s been piss poor since the start of the year really .some decent dribbling and beating players in his early games for us but doesn’t even do much of that now .  I know his shot led to the goal today but his overall impact over the past few months has been shit especially when he’s hyped up like the next mlt bale or Walcott .. 

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36 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Most overrated player  we have ever had he’s been piss poor since the start of the year really .some decent dribbling and beating players in his early games for us but doesn’t even do much of that now .  I know his shot led to the goal today but his overall impact over the past few months has been shit especially when he’s hyped up like the next mlt bale or Walcott .. 

Don't be be silly.

He's a young kid who has been sadly been dragged into this utter shambles of a season, in this environment it's very hard to show yourself or play with freedom - that's why I never jump on the bandwagon of ''throw the kids in'' when we're doing bad, it's not particularly fair on them. In him and Fernandes we have been able to enjoy two technical players this year, these guys are the last players that should be picked on. I can name another 20 who come before them.

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18 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Don't be be silly.

He's a young kid who has been sadly been dragged into this utter shambles of a season, in this environment it's very hard to show yourself or play with freedom - that's why I never jump on the bandwagon of ''throw the kids in'' when we're doing bad, it's not particularly fair on them. In him and Fernandes we have been able to enjoy two technical players this year, these guys are the last players that should be picked on. I can name another 20 who come before them.

Right but his job as one of our attacking 10s/wfs is to create chances or score and he’s not doing much at all of that lately. Walcott started out in a poor team too and made impact .let’s be honest his form has fell off hugely and he hasn’t been looking that dangerous for a long time . 
 

considering he’s gonna probably bail on us anyway in the summer I don’t really care about this one of our own or just a kid stuff .. are we really gonna miss him if he goes ?

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He’s been shit for weeks now. Strolls around the pitch like he thinks he’s Matt Le Tiss or something - just another rat that will jump ship when we go down.

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9 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Right but his job as one of our attacking 10s/wfs is to create chances or score and he’s not doing much at all of that lately. Walcott started out in a poor team too and made impact .let’s be honest his form has fell off hugely and he hasn’t been looking that dangerous for a long time . 
 

considering he’s gonna probably bail on us anyway in the summer I don’t really care about this one of our own or just a kid stuff .. are we really gonna miss him if he goes ?

Walcott came into one of the strongest squads in the Championship in the first half of that season, we were expected to win and had quite high expectations on us. We weren't a poor team with poor players when he came into the side, which allowed him to impact. We didn't have the season we wanted that year, but it's a stretch to say he started out in a poor team.

I'd lay more criticism at Sulemana/Archer/BBD/Armstrong etc - that's also their role, they're more experienced and should be producing way more than they have done. Tyler has already produced more than any of those this year. He's having a dip, but if he leaves (Which he likely will) we will be weaker for it. It would be daft to think otherwise.

The problems are much deeper than an 18 year old falling out of form.

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57 minutes ago, aintforever said:

He’s been shit for weeks now. Strolls around the pitch like he thinks he’s Matt Le Tiss or something - just another rat that will jump ship when we go down.

Came back to the club and probably earns the club £40m+ in the summer, Tyler ain’t a problem.

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2 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Came back to the club and probably earns the club £40m+ in the summer, Tyler ain’t a problem.

Not on his present form he won’t.

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4 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

Not on his present form he won’t.

Don't think any clubs interested will be too bothered about his current form in a shambolic team. He has already shown his ability.

In fact, it probably suits them as can try to lower the fee.

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A bit like most of our squad, he's Championship standard.

If he's smart, he'll sign a new deal, rip the league up next year and get a big money move at some point.

Or he'll leave, languish in the reserves of some random team and end up playing in a couple of years for someone shit like Stoke or QPR.

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From what I see and hear from limited interviews I have concerns about his attitude. If there is anything in that and I appreciate I maybe wide of the mark, then he’ll not fulfill his true potential. Attitude is everything in whatever you do, as I say I hope I’m wrong.

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4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

What did he say in an interview that made you think that?

Just what I’ve seen, can’t be specific when and TBF I said if there was anything in it and I may be wide of the mark. I get it that he’s young but at the same time he’s old enough to be consistently picked in a PL team.

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When he plays on the right wing he's class.

When he plays as an inside right forward with no striker in front of him, Sulemana over the other side somewhere and two rights back outside him, he's not very effective. Funny that.

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Usually it’s pretty painful when we sell one of our young prospects .. but Truth is his output after 25 prem  games is two goals and no assists if it was anyone else they would get slated for no end product.

I don’t think we will miss that kind of output at all next season plus we will be in the championship where  a Adam Armstrong can rip it up so it’s gonna be no loss 

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Tyler has been inconsistent but has looked head and shoulders above most of the senior pros around him in our squad despite this being his first season in men’s football, playing in a terrible team shorn of leadership, he’s been shifted away from arguably his best position given his current physicality and played under three (okay a stretch to include Rusk) managers in the season. What do people expect from him? He’s a quality player and is great to watch. If he goes and we see a good fee that’s often just the way of things but I would love to see him in a settled side with a sensible coach next season tearing up championship defences and find it bizarre so many want to wave him off.

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30 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Usually it’s pretty painful when we sell one of our young prospects .. but Truth is his output after 25 prem  games is two goals and no assists if it was anyone else they would get slated for no end product.

I don’t think we will miss that kind of output at all next season plus we will be in the championship where  a Adam Armstrong can rip it up so it’s gonna be no loss 

He isn't getting assists because the players he passes to aren't good enough in the Premier League to score.

Not sure why you writing off him having a good output in the Championship.

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50 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Usually it’s pretty painful when we sell one of our young prospects .. but Truth is his output after 25 prem  games is two goals and no assists if it was anyone else they would get slated for no end product.

I don’t think we will miss that kind of output at all next season plus we will be in the championship where  a Adam Armstrong can rip it up so it’s gonna be no loss 

I know this season has been an utter shit show and we’re all a bit mentally drained, but this is such a bizarre take. 

This is an 18 year olds first season playing regular men’s football, in what is likely going to be the worst ever premier league team. He’s clearly got ability and a big future, which I am sure he will achieve once he’s away from this utter shit show.

Id suggest you are better off directing your ire at at pretty much anyone else, including a £20m CB who has been utter shite, an £18m CM who can’t be arsed to play, a catastrophe of a right back, a set of strikers who have shown consistently they are not up to the level, two managers woefully out of their depth at this level and an ownership group that haven’t got a fcking clue.

Focussing criticism on one of only two bright spots this season is odd behaviour.

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1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Usually it’s pretty painful when we sell one of our young prospects .. but Truth is his output after 25 prem  games is two goals and no assists if it was anyone else they would get slated for no end product.

I don’t think we will miss that kind of output at all next season plus we will be in the championship where  a Adam Armstrong can rip it up so it’s gonna be no loss 

Erwink61 put it perfectly. My take is what a stupid post. As for stats, nobody can assist when the tactics mean that there's nobody ahead of them to assist. 

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27 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

 one of only two bright spots 

I'd say three... Dibling, Fernandes and Ramsdale.

We've conceded a lot of goals, but that isn't Ramsdale's fault. It would be significantly worse in the goals against column if we hadn't signed him.

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